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Chief Technical Officer. 18,168 posts. 3 reviews. No lists. No wishlists.


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I have suspended this product pending discussion with the publisher.

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The class decks are not designed for any specific AP, so both sides are general utility.

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Exo wrote:
Maybe there are other games, who have released printings that were simply not compatable with one another? If so please list them, that I will know never to invest in those games in the future. Thanks.

Magic: The Gathering is the first that comes to my mind...

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You bring ALE to a wine tasting?!? You uncouth... ruffian! My delicate sensibilities shatter!

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Hawkmoon269 wrote:
I'd imagine GenCon 2014 will be something similar. It looks like there will be one you can get for simply demoing the game (or asking nicely). The other you get if you buy S&S at GenCon.

Correct. And yes, we'll also have Ranzak for sale.

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Yep. 3 cards: "Basic," "Advanced," and "Staying in the Saddle" (mounting, dismounting, what happens when your mount falls in battle, etc.).

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When Jason pitched the outline for this book, my first comments were about the proposed list of classes, and mirror many of the comments seen here: Why A and B, but not C and D?

I can assure you he had really good answers, though I can't really share most of them right now. But i will give you one: a couple of the classes that are not called out in the Classes chapter on the outline rely heavily on systems that are called out in other chapters.

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Freehold DM wrote:

Hm.

This fills me with concern. I will check out the book and may do some switching, but like most gamers my age, im more interested in getting ideas from this book to use in the future as opposed to abandoning everything I know currently.

People who share your viewpoint are very much in mind here.

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We're not going to do that. It's still a slap in the face to the guy who paid $20 just because he wanted to have Lini on the table.

We do have a happy answer for you, though—pay attention to our announcements (and Paizo blogs) around Gen Con.

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All of the cards are different... but exactly how many rules references there are depends on how you count them.

Some concepts are short enough that they fit on one side of a card; in those cases, there's a related concept on the other side. Example: "Initiative" and "Flat-Footed" are opposite sides of the same card.

Some concepts are long enough that they fill both sides of a card. Example: "Critical Hits" takes up the front and back of one card.

Some concepts are spread across multiple cards, though when that happens, they are divided into subconcepts. Example: "Attacks of Opportunity" is divided into three double-sided cards: "Threatened Squares", "What Provokes One?", and "Making the Attack".

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It's been a year since I thought about it, but I think Mike's response was something along the lines of "...and which 5 cards would you remove from Set 5 to make that happen?"

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Theryon Stormrune,
The PDF will contain full card images.

MajorHavok,
We don't have a way to subscribe to an email announcement. This thread will be the best place to look, though we'll also add links from the RotR product pages.

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Magic 8 Ball wrote:
Better not tell you now
Magic 8 Ball wrote:
Ask again later

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We will make a PDF available.

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csouth154 wrote:
To be perfectly honest, I don't think any cards would have been able to stay even if you defeat a villain there. The order of operations after defeating a villain calls for banishing cards first, THEN flipping the card and triggering the "when permanently closed" effect.

Clever fellow! This is in fact a tiny hole that I don't believe any players have ever pointed out before. We've closed it in Skull & Shackles:

S&S Rulebook wrote:
If you didn’t find any villains, perform the When Permanently Closed effect: First, apply any effects that say “before closing.” Then banish all of the cards from the location deck; it is now closed. Finally, apply any effects that say “on closing” and flip the location card over.

A card like Garrison would now say "Before closing, set aside any weapons and armors from this location deck. On closing, shuffle them back into this location deck."

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We'll be running some Paizo blogs about S&S soon.

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Surprise!

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They won't be printed as cards... and they won't even be card-sized! They'll be standard 8.5x11 pages. This gives us the flexibility to do things in PFSACG scenarios that we couldn't possibly fit onto mere cards!

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Greyhawke115 wrote:

I am working on all second printing, so I am going to have issues with the few cards needing replaced in that set. That said, the choice had to be made to match one or the other, and this was absolutely the right call. Great job!

Vic, when did you say those were going to be ready? :)

I didn't, but I will say this:

Last call for RotR errata!

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Yep—it's all optional fun enhancement. The baseline play style for S&S is right where RotR was*: A Base Set, a Character Add-On Deck, and six chapters worth of adventure, so if you don't opt in to any of the new stuff, you won't be losing any ground.

*Okay, in the interest of full disclosure, we did make *one* small change to the baseline play experience for S&S, and that's that the Skull & Shackles Base Set includes *five* scenarios before you begin Chapter 1. Runelords had only 3, so you get two more scenarios in S&S than RotR.

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Galnörag wrote:
Lisa Stevens wrote:
Galnörag wrote:
I assume you fine folks are working with Reaper on sculpts for the new iconics. Any chance you might let slip, oh say at Paizo Con, when such miniatures might be headed to market?

Last I heard, Reaper was aiming to have all the new iconics available at GenCon.

-Lisa

That was a surprisingly more direct answer then I was hoping for, thanks!

Me too—I don't think Reaper has actually told anyone that yet...

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Vic Wertz wrote:

We don't need another edition war. We didn't need the previous one.

Stop worrying about what other people like and dislike, and keep liking what you like.

Actually, let me go one further: Everyone please leave your opinions of other people's opinions out of the discussion. That way, we can have a discussion. Otherwise, we can have a locked thread.

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We don't need another edition war. We didn't need the previous one.

Stop worrying about what other people like and dislike, and keep liking what you like.

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Tyler, we (Paizo) would really love for your wife to come to PaizoCon next year!

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John Kretzer wrote:

I am wondering if this book will contain something very useful (and if not maybe you guys can still add it) a master index for all the classes, feats, spells, archetypes, etc to appear in the Pathfinder hardcover line.

That alone could get me to buy this book.

Think of this book as a friendly guide to the Core Rulebook with a focus on building, leveling, and playing a character from that book. Anything that doesn't directly contribute to those things does not belong here.

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1d8+1 wrote:
Just so everyone knows, I will be available to sign autographs all weekend.

Do you just sign "1d8+1", or do you roll first and write down the result?

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Yeah, we'll fix that glitch before anyone gets charged.

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Theryon Stormrune wrote:
My only question is that I do have 4+ tickets. I am planning on picking up all the class decks at GenCon. I was planning on buying all but one deck initially and then getting my freebie at my first event. Should we be worried that the one we want wouldn't be available at the event?

We'll have a lot. It's possible that if everybody who pick up a deck chooses the same one, we'll run out of that one—but I think it's unlikely to be a problem.

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Yep... he died.

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Yes—we'll announce it at the banquet.

Not exactly a hint, but you'll find something that may interest you here.

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Did he die yet?

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Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Franko a wrote:

I dont know if this has been answered....

How DO you make a cursed item on purpose?
If at first you don't fail, try, try again?
I had a friend who actually tried exactly this tactic.

Right—a friend did that. Gotcha.

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If we're making it easy for you to skip a book (or an entire AP), we're not doing our job well enough!

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Franko a wrote:

I dont know if this has been answered....

How DO you make a cursed item on purpose?

If at first you don't fail, try, try again?

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We will have copies at PaizoCon and Gen Con.

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Matt Thomason wrote:
Jester David wrote:


The major difference is one of quality. The books in the old 2e boxed sets were black and white with less slick paper and much less glossy covers. With the box, the covers can be slightly less durable.
That's bound to reduce the costs of printing, and I suspect B&W art costs less.
See, I'd hate to lose that lovely glossy color format with a durable hard cover just to get a cardboard box wrapped around it all ;)

Card stock covers are really not much more expensive than self-covers (that is, using the same paper stock for the cover that you use throughout). We're talking pennies here.

You might also be surprised to learn the cost between black-and-white and color printing is actually pretty negligible, as long as you select the right printer for the right job. (We're maybe talking a few dimes, depending on the content ratio.)

Eliminating the tuckbox from the deck of cards would also just be a tiny difference—pennies again.

Even when marked up to go through the retail channel, we're talking about a saving just a few bucks—maybe that box set I described above could be priced at $74.99 instead of $79.99. $69.99 if we think the volume were really high.

You are correct that black-and-white art costs a fair bit less, though.

But one tends to think of box sets as a premium product, and b&w art and self-covered books is pretty much in direct opposition to the notion of premium. Making a box set deliberately lower quality than all of our other products is not a thing we'd actually consider doing.

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Cheapy wrote:
He'll prioritize the sections, and that does mean someone's cause is going to be in last place.

Sorry, man—we rolled off for them, and your cause got a 1. And when we rolled to confirm the fumble, the die went off the table and down a small vent right on into the furnace.

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I know it sounds easy, but under the hood, fulfilling preorders for non-physical items is pretty radically different from how our current order fulfillment process works. That's due to change, but it won't be super soon.

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We have not yet finalized how many Class Decks will be released in February(-ish). If I had to guess, though, I'd guess 7.

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Stick to helping Mark change things for the better, not criticizing things that happened in the past, or I will lock this thread.

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It's not being nice. Suggesting our designers don't know the rules and don't know English is quite simply being a jerk. Knock it off.

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We'll fix the subscriber discount on Monday.

And yes, there are quite a few cards that are exclusive to the class decks (in addition to the characters, of course, which are all new).

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That would be LSD.

LDS is what you did if you were part of the movement at BYU.

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T7V Jazzlvraz wrote:
<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:
We've been told if we try to solo, we will die.
Ryan's also told us that if we play, we will die. Levels the playing field nicely...sorta.

If you saw the screenshots of Ryan playing Alpha, you will know that he died a *lot*.

Early on, he joked (or maybe half-joked) about making you die as part of the game's tutorial, in the hopes of helping diminish your fear of death. I actually still think that's a good idea.

It's a given that you will die—that's not the problem with soloing. The problem with soloing is that one of the primary goals of the game is maximizing useful human interaction. Goblinworks is pouring everything they have into making that part of the game as fun as possible. So if you are trying to avoid that, you will be missing a huge percentage of the things that we are doing to make the game fun. Your experience will be very limited, and if you don't find it fun, that's on you, not us.

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And if you want to know how we did it with the Beginner Box, the answer is that product has a very small profit margin. Our goals for that product are more about introducing new players to the game and our setting, and less about making money. (This is why when you do see a box set in our industry, it's usually an intro product.)

And if you want to know how TSR did it back in the day... see here.

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Please see here for an example.

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I think that counts as work...

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It's like he can see into that world!

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I expect all of the ACG iconics will get minis from Reaper eventually.

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