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Q3 = Q4 in game development announcements. If something comes out on time, that usually means it was rushed, and this isn't a release game, so no reason to try and hit the holiday shopping season.

When I thought they would start in September, I was expecting them to have already given out the first two rounds of invites to the alpha backers by now, and have at least half the EE map open. Unless there is some mega-update next week, I'm hoping for late October, and expecting November.

After watching every other MMO I've played from beta crash and burn due to rushed development, I want this one to take its time. I've already been waiting 2 and a half years, whats another six months?

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Back to the matter at hand,

I still think the Landrush should end at an undisclosed time. Force people to put up all the votes they can accumulate, and put in their real pick-lists.

At very least, I think they should lock the top 10 spots early.

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Alpha is only supposed to run Thursday afternoon to early early Saturday morning, unless GW decides to extend it.

They need weekend breaks too!

Blag wrote:


We are prepping Zog for this week's Alpha Test. The server will open at 3pm (Pacific) today (Thursday) and close at 6am (Pacific) on Saturday morning, unless we decide to operate with extended hours. If extended hours are greenlit we'll notify all the Alpha players directly.

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<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:

Can't wait for week 10 to end and then hear all the cheers and wailing and gnashing of teeth. :-)

Also remember, instead of ending it at week 9, this gives them an extra week of Alpha before they start the Tower Wars.

I'm rather hoping the Tower Wars start a week or two after week 10 ends. Would hate to have to wait until September!

Alpha hasn't even hit the first hardware expansion, and only covers a small portion of the EE starting map. Don't expect anything that soon.

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:

Why, Valkenr, I'm sure I'm not kabable of working out who you might be implying here.

Whoops.

I'm not implying anyone, I'd be more worried about the quiet ones, not the jokesters. I'm hardly following the forum politics and my limited experience with Kabal was learning how BuniBuni managed to find the one BestBuy salesman that though "gaming computer" was synonymous with "minitower with intel HD graphics."

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DeciusBrutus wrote:
Valkenr wrote:

I think GW should either shorten or extend the Landrush, and not tell us when it is going to end.

Just kill the looming uncertainty of last minute upsets. I see no reason why each guild shouldn't be submitting honest pick-lists and having their full membership listed now.

I think that making those the rules from the start would have been better, but it is too late to make a change that major.

It's not that major, it just tells people to get their entire groups on now if they want the best positioning they can get. For the honest participant, it changes nothing.

People should be recruiting just as hard now, as they would be the last week.

The only upset would be for people trying to make an upset.

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I think GW should either shorten or extend the Landrush, and not tell us when it is going to end.

Just kill the looming uncertainty of last minute upsets. I see no reason why each guild shouldn't be submitting honest pick-lists and having their full membership listed now.

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and another link!

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Hey chicka bump bump

Here's that link from my last post again

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I have a link at the top of this post.

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Here's a multiview for use tonight:

I've left the bottom 3 views open so you can select which other streams you would like to view.
To add a stream to one of the blocks:
1. Click on the block
2. Select the appropriate service from the "Service Name" drop down.
-- Make sure the other drop-down is on "video" unless you want to add another channels chat.
3. Type in the name of the stream you wish to view. (list of current known alpha streamers below)
4. Click "Add Multiview Block"

The current alpha streamer channel names: (All use Twitch.TV)
alexander-damocles
cbdunkerson
dakcenturi
dariotashavan
deciusbrutus
kitsune_aou
morbismia
nihimon
oncallgm
sdshannons

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TEO Cheatle wrote:
Also, I want to note that Valkner totally murdered like 1300 Bandits over the course of three days....lol

...and got the ~2500(can't remember exact, i think 8 or 9) bow achievement... It was an eventful weekend.

Bow+Leash=awesome.

Mindless grinding is a good way to pass the time, and stock up on loot.

For the OP, Removing grinding would ruin the game. At their core, video games are a time-sink, if you can do everything in a few days (*cough* DCUO *cough*) then things get boring quickly.

The killing 10,000 goblin achievements should be something you wouldn't need the points for until over a year down the road, when you are probably close to that anyway through normal gameplay.

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T7V Jazzlvraz wrote:

One of the Alpha videos showed someone getting a bandit-achievement by killing three of them. I'm not sure achievements are going to reach the level of "grind" so much as "making sure you've seen a bit of the world".

I'm sure we'll hear soon from one of the Alphas about how many bandits it takes to reach Bandit Achievement 3 (obviously not the right name). That'll give us some idea of scaling.

I think the progression was around 1, 3, 15, 50, 125, 250, 500, 1250, 3250, 6300.... or something like that for what I consider "minion" level enemies.

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Gol Tigari wrote:
If I remember right, this is already A mechanic for Assassins. All our gear is destroyed on death

Unless I missed something, assassinating gave a chance to cut bind point threads. The idea was to get notable characters out of a fight.

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Hardin Steele wrote:

If an archer goes out and fires 300 shots and runs out of ammo, then he should have picked his targets more carefully, or be prepared to enter melee. Or run away. Or hide. Or have hired additional help, or evaded.

(Carrying more than 6 in real life is absurdly difficult, as a typical bow mounted quiver only carries 6, you might pack in another dozen in camp, but if you miss with your first shot, your target has fled...but this is not real life. Still, a reasonable limit should be implemented. Maybe 2 dozen in a large shoulder quiver?)

I was thinking that there would be around 2000 or so shots per adventure, I would say that covers about 100 enemies on your own. I'm guessing an adventure to clear a hex shouldn't require 50 trips back to camp, and will involve a thousand or so enemies.

Health bars screw up any kind of realistic logic when it comes to archery in video games.

If you want more realism, bows need to be ridiculously OP in comparison to melee weapons so you don't have to fire as many arrows.

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I've added all the channels listed in the latest blog. When the upcoming event takes place I'll post some multiviews that people can use.

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The way I read the original "rules" was that a settlement gains a % depending on its position, that % is permanently attached to their group as long as they keep that location. So if you are moving around the list, you gain a % every week.

So if you build up a 100% boost at the bottom of the list for a while, then grab 100 members out of the blue, even TEO couldn't unseat you.

But it seems like groups are purposefully killing other's hunker bonuses, so the system seems pretty pointless now.

I, personally, would have not made roster size public, and the pick list would have only been visible to the owner.

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Are archers going to have to carry an absurd amour of ammo? or will there be some sort of retrieval mechanic?

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Amaranthar wrote:

First off, this game does seem to have promise. Sort of an expanded Eve in fantasy, with "boots on the ground" too. I like good PvP and have been looking for meaningful play in that regard, which this game seems to have a good grasp of. But on to my questions.

One of the things I always consider is the power gaps in "levels" of characters, since I don't think you can have a real good Sandbox if they are extreme (which is subjective). What I worry about here is the special attacks a character learns. Is that the primary way power gaps occur? And how is it, compared to the typical Themepark design?

It will take a month or two to be competative to older characters. But they aren't invincible to lowbies, you just need more new characters to take down old characters. It's not like themeparks where there is an exponential increase it power, it's the inverse.

Amaranthar wrote:
How do you zone between hexes? Does it feel like not "zoning", in a gamey way?

Everything is seamlessly connected. Some dungeon areas may be instanced.

Amaranthar wrote:
How extensive will the PvE and lore game play be? I know it's early, I'm looking for the concept more than what's in at this point. And related to that, is the plan to have antagonists of old lore come back to destroy the world and that sort of thing? Will there be mystery and discovery involved?

The lore is the Paizo lore. The game is based around player interactions, PvE instances are planned but far in the future. Don't expect some overarching story, that takes too much money to develop and is not in the game plan. We know there will be some "boss" type characters that some players (right now $1000+ backers) will be able to control for sort-of-pve events.

Amaranthar wrote:
One of the things I would love to be a part of is a grand depository of knowledge. A library/research center with members that seek out such things and documents them, seeks artifacts, and the like. Is that viable in this game?

The Seventh Veil is planning this. Our settlement is Phaeros. While we know of nothing in-game to help with this, yet, we are hosting a wiki, and will probably help a little with the PFO section of the Galorapedia.

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I would be more selective with your long-term alpha testers.

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From: KNEEL BEFORE ZOG!!!!

Week 1 - 2 = Internal, friends and family

Week 3 - Alpha backers

First Load increase - Each Alpha backer gets 1 invite to give away

Further increases - give more invites to alpha backers (not clear on if invited people get invites to give away too)

Close to Early Enrollment - Random selection of Month 1 EE (Kickstarter backers), they get some friend invites (presumably to give to other month 1 EE backers)

Right before EE - All EE backers (Not clear on if just KS, or all new EE backers as well, IMO it seems cruel to let the month 2 people in for a week, then kick them out for a month.)

My guess is that EE backers will start to be let in a week or two after the Alpha moves from Zog to the EE hardware.

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I have a feeling everything on this list is already on GW's list.

This test was about seeing if the software works.

1. ) You should never really expect to keep a persistent character in an alpha. I would imagine the real balance and training testing will have no persistence, and we will be given commands or an npc that boosts our xp. In fact, the best way to test out "leveling" is to force everyone to re-do their skills every time they log-in.

2.) Notice all the TODO, those are on their radar.

3.) who you can see on your minimap should be based on your perception. Getting separated and lost should be a feature. Stick with your people!

4.) Early Alpha, of course these are very basic and limited.

5.) I would rather just see the NPCs added to the map, still as stated above, your perception should determine what you see. There should be map-making functionality for players to get a better layout. Information overload is the problem with modern games, they make it too easy to find things.

6.) Probably a focused test with the guild owners. The three towns that are in now, are probably similar to the proto-settlements.

The only thing I would like to see is a serious increase in Thornguard presence and power, to keep pvp away from the towns.

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What's Crodforging?

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@Tyncale,

The whole point of this system is controlled growth. The people that GW wants in early are the people that can afford it. Ryan said it a few times a while ago, their target audience is people who can afford to shell out more than your average subscription. They need people early on that give them more income per player than most games get.

We do not need a bunch of bargain hunters flooding the game for 3 weeks, then leaving a heap of useless hardware sucking up funds.

Rust is not an MMO. MMO's require a lot more work and money. You can't compare costs.

I doubt steam would even sell this game for EE. For one it will have no ESRB, and second I have never heard of a limited release game selling on Steam. Maybe when OE comes around, and the gates are completely open.

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Meh, game mechanics matter more now. Everyone has played "The Theampark" and now it's just a competition to make the newest shiniest one for people to throw money at.

Basic Graphics + Awesome Mechanics = Largest Audience

People aren't used to seeing alpha footage. Most of the times alpha's are behind very closed doors, and the only visual releases are high quality renderings.

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Ryan Dancey wrote:
It would be terrible to have one-shot kills in an MMO.

What about a rank 20 archer against some idiot running around naked?

I agree, one-shots suck for 50% of the people that participate in them. But if the lowest defense, against the strongest attack doesn't result in a one-shot, there is little motivation to advance you character very far, if the last 2 years of their training result in a 5% increase.

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...aaaaand here's a link to watch him!

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What happens a year down the road when a new patch comes out introducing a new role or two?

Settlements aren't going to be saving space, that's a waste of DI. They aren't going to be advertising that "rogue support is dead when monks come out" because that either creates community members with no real stake, or simply drives people away.

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Here is the main problem:

Guild Land Rush

Guild.

Go find 200 guilds that are all interested in this game, and have a community that is only planning to cover 1/4th of the roles.

GW explicitly set to target guilds from the start, now they are expecting those guilds to lower their total fun-factor, even more than alignment does, by limiting what classes the guild can play. I'm guessing that most guilds are/were planning to dip into every role, so they could cover all the bases.

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I'm going to say this again:

If every settlement cannot support every role, then every role needs to be perfectly PvP balanced at all times

Having a Rogue/Wizard settlement needs to be just as viable in PvP as a Fighter/Cleric settlement. A settlement needs to be able to fight for itself.

Now you have created a system for cookie-cutter nations, everyone will use the most optimized setup to cover the entire spectrum in as few settlements as possible.

I do not think there is a group of developers out there that can create a 24/7/365.25 balanced system. The best option is to give each side the exact same toolset, so they can both be OP in the same way.

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The only reason I see for limiting what roles can live in a settlement, is to force high reputation for high rank skill usage. A much better alternative is to require high reputation to slot high rank skills. Blame it on Phrasma.

Training, and Markets are all the forced interaction you need to create. And alignment restrictions limit what a guild can do more that most people would like.

Role support is a great idea, don't get me wrong, but something like that needs to be one of the listed features in the game's first press release.

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KarlBob wrote:


Regarding playing with friends, don't forget that you don't have to party with people from your settlement, or your guild, or your company. Sure, it's more convenient to play with people who usually log in on the same side of the map you do, but having to meet at the dungeon entrance...

If you have to travel for 20-40 minutes, just to play with friends, there is an issue. That adds about an hour of wasted time.

The settlement you 'live' in should have nothing to do with it's functionality, it should be about the people in it. The functionality of a settlement should just be its source of income.

The alignment system already limits current groups of friends enough. I'm guessing 10-15% of most gaming group's members are having to change their play style if they want to stay with the group.

The system as described would work great if everyone came into the game with no prior associations, and no friends.

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Remember, it takes 2.5 years to fully train a role, ignoring everything else. It's not like GW doesn't have time to think up better ways to make us interact.

Since i am wholeheartedly against reputation limiting power potential, I can't support that reasoning for keeping role support.

People are already organized into groups, most of them are called guilds. Its already been enough of a headache mapping into company/settlement. We don't need another headache splitting up groups so they don't have to compromise their play style just to stay together.

There are people that want to play together, and they want to play largely different roles. This idea GW has would be great if everyone was coming into the game with no friends.

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Another alpha window is about to open. Get your stream before it starts! I'll make sure to process any new requests tomorrow morning.

Congratulations to Morbis for bing the first to add a stream!

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I guess the biggest reason not to have support structures, is that you have to be a balancing ninja. No classes can be better than others, they all have to be equal at all times or certain settlements get unfair advantages. If every settlement can support all classes, all settlements can have equal power potential no matter the balance.

Class/Class balance should never be expected in PFO

1v1 balance should never be expected in PFO

Every build should have a few situations it is good for, and a lot that it isn't.

As long as each side has access to the same tools and the same mechanics, combat is balanced.

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Remember this is a video game, the whole point is that it isn't reality.

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Though I don't blame GW for wanting to create more avenues for conflict, 99% of organization-to-organization discussions are about creating friendly areas and working together without war.

I think that the silent majority isn't as friendly as people on the forums, so I'm not as concerned as GW.

You should be able to carve out your area, and be able to produce 70-80% of what you need within 4 or so settlements with 30-40 POI's. It's up to GW to make sure that no area of the map contains enough variation in hexes to allow a nation to be self sustaining.

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I think trade and training will create enough conflict.

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Don't have time to read all the posts here, so sorry If I'm repeating.

I haven't been a fan of this "character upkeep" system since it was announced.

I don't like the idea of forcing settlements to choose what classes they support, I think that every settlement should be able to house every class to the max level.

I think the focus on "character upkeep" should be entirely consumable based, like EvE. And there can be some things that don't require consumables, but they require much more effort, and are not as powerful as the consumable-based counterparts.

Your ability to play a role should not be determined by your location. That is too restrictive.

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Nihimon wrote:
GrumpyMel wrote:
- I know realism is not a factor here but as someone who does bowhunt in real life, I can tell you that shooting a bow while attempting to move means a missed shot.

I don't know if it was here, or on T7V's forums, but I remember someone posted a video of an extremely mobile archer using a short bow and rapid firing multiple arrows with great accuracy while jumping and spinning around in the air. He basically "punched" with the bow instead of taking careful aim, while holding additional arrows between the fingers of his right hand.

Not trying to argue the point, just thought it was interesting, and would love it if whoever originally posted it saw this and re-posted.

We can assume our characters are better than your above-average human, and presumably our 20th level characters will be above the skill of the dude you are talking about.

Yes, aiming using sights/down-the-shaft is not possible while mobile, but look at at quick-draw artists, they shoot from the hip, not down the sights. It just takes lots of practice to get the intuition of where you shot is going to land, it's like any other muscle-memory training.

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TEO Papaver wrote:
While I respect the moderation action I still think it's not cool that one can not question moderation decisions and/or contact the moderators.

People can't be trusted with that power, 99% of the questions and contacts would be complete garbage and/or rage.

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Kiting should be very effective, why does every fight have to end with one character killing the other? Taking necessary death out of PvP interactions would add to the "meaningful interaction" stance. I would like to see most PvP interactions involve one person realizing they are outmatched, and running away. A ranged character has (and should only have) two defensive options:
1. Offence (spike them down before they get to you)
2. Kiting (keep them away and whittle them down.

There's a difference between keeping someone away: kiting, and keeping someone locked down: no fun for anyone. The key is making it so that chasing after someone, puts the archer in a vulnerable position.

If you are in anything less than plate armor, you shouldn't even think about engaging with an archer. If you are in plate armor, the archer should have no problem keeping you away and escaping. The only time you should engage an archer (or any ranged toon) one on one is when you catch them flat footed.

Ranged isn't OP, people need to learn to tank-and-flank.

I guess my point is: Keep a distinction between a fight where you have no chance at winning, and a fight you have no chance at escaping. The former isn't a mechanical balance problem, the latter is.

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Lol 2 days and an nerf report...

Come on people, don't think something needs to be nerfed until you have thuroughly tested everything else in comparison. I'm guessing there is a better combo that hasn't been discovered yet.

IMO, ranged attacks should be more powerful 1v1 as a general rule, that is why humans invented ranged weapons in the real world.

And I'm guessing this phase of alpha was the "Does it work" test, not the "is it balanced" tests. Those come right before the "let's try and break it" test.

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Early alphas are never online often, focused tests that are scheduled to ensure the maximum people online while GW can monitor the system.

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Dario wrote:
Corky Thatcher wrote:
In almost any MMO I've played, you will ALWAYS save the +5 ingots to make your +5 sword. Unfortunately, its not really a decision.
Except that every time someone takes that +5 sword out, it's at a huge risk of being lost to looting or destruction on death. There's going to be a much brisker trade of mid-grade goods that people can thread cheaper, and less demand for the high end items that people will take and drop in their bank until the fecal matter strikes the rotary cooling device.

It's only a risk if you don't thread it.

My guess is most people's main weapon and key armor pieces will be threaded.

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In WoW, iron is iron.

Here is Iron in SWG

Those numbers are the stat variations 0 to 1000.

The best part of SWG's crafting was this variation.

The implication of this variance, was that you could have months where one resource either didn't spawn or there was no good quality. When a good resource came around, you pulled out all the stops and stockpiled as much as you can. The last time I played SWGemu, it took 6 months for the resource to spawn that was requred to make the best armor.

This also lead to a very diverse market, Items made by different players were hardly ever the same, the best crafters made a name for them selves. The best crafters were also out all the time looking for new resources and making sure they had strong stocks of the best.

Trying to compare SWG to WoW, or most other crafting systems is like comparing a sundial to a Rolex. It is the one good thing to come out of Sony Online Entertainment.

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Uthreth Baelcoressitas wrote:
and others can set up live streams through the site as well.

Others can link their streams. I can see people misunderstanding and thinking that we are hosting our own streaming service.

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If you are running things outside your own group/clan/guild/whatever, it is a hassle to get everyone on some 3rd party VOIP. Voice chat makes running with PUG's much easier.

Just whatever you do, don't even look at how SOE does their in-game VOIP, It had bugs when DCUO came out, then they used the same system in PS2, and signals were still getting misdirected years later. It's great playing for an hour with someone else's voice comms coming into your channel.

My guess is that hosting it in the game would be a bad idea(and probably why some games have such poor quality), it should probably be some external system that plugs into the game.

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Here's a multiview to use this evening.

You can put whatever 3 streamers you want below the GW stream.

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Here are some examples of what you can do with our stream watching tool.

T7V's 3 Alpha streamers with the Goblinworks stream on one page, no chat.

Here's T7V's 3 alpha streamers, with their chat below them.

Nihimon and Decius with chat

This is using our mutliview tool.

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If they don't fix player stacking, stress test day is going to see a pyramid.

It would be an interesting mechanic, if they allowed player stacking, but added a crush factor, and let people climb walls World War Z style.

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