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I don't know, maybe it's just me, but i'd love to play a rogue, just for the fluff around it and the numerous characters I can come up with. People shouldn't mind having their character outdamaged by others, simply because this is no wargame.

You can play the sneaky pickpocket, the smooth-talker, the scout, a charlatan, the ladies man, a coward who avoids direct combat and only kills weak enemies, etc. For me, that's what counts. Okay, other classes can do the same, but so what? What's really important is how memorable that guy will be!

That's me, though.

Wall of Stone + Stone to Flesh = Feed a village?

Prints of Darkness?

Karlgamer, people are using the words "penalty" and "penalize" in their general, english-language senses, not the game term that refers to a negative integer applied to a score or check. (I would also note that "penalize" doesn't even have that rules meaning, yet you still responded to it earlier in the same way you've been responding to usage of "penalty".)

More importantly, I'm noticing that every time you get hung up on the use of the word "penalty", you also fail to actually address the argument being presented.