The 8th Dwarf wrote:
How dare you, you heathen :) (spoken by a true Romanophile)
However the History of the Roman Imperial Family, once they had one of course, is in parts so bizarre that no studio exec would ever consider such story lines even for the most dreadful TV soap.
I can also attest to the worth of the "History of Rome" podcast. You won't find huge amounts of detail or in depth discussion of the source material but it is a great overview.
Well if you are only doing it because the company pays for it, that's a little different.
Proper grammar is always an issue and teachers like me who were never very good at English anyway don't help.
I'd complain not because of poor sources, but a poor use of sources and historical method.
As for Grant, he's a bit like Carl Sagan, popular, populariser, prolific and not that well regarded by his peers in the field. That's not saying that his writing is bad or inaccurate, just that there seems to be a certain snobishness from other historians.
Man you have been sooo dudded. Complain and complain like hell.
For the record I have my Honours in Ancient History focusing on the Late Roman Republic/Early Empire. I am also a teacher at High School in New South Wales Australia and I teach Ancient History for the Higher School Certificate (the final leaving exam at the end of school).
The stuff that Chubbs McGee has been talking about is the stuff we teach in High School. We use Suetonius, Tacitus, Plutarch, Cassius Dio et al (or Herodotus, Thucydides etc depending on topic) as well as more modern sources, always pointing out how important it is to know the source well. Who they were, why they wrote and who they were writing for. And not just the ancient authors but also coins, archaeology, architecture and modern historians.
If you are not doing this sort of close study at University level then you are being let down. If you are not doing this sort of close study at University level and you paid for it then you are being ripped off.
Complain and complain like hell.
I myself change everything out of greyhawk as I really dislike greyhawk. yOU Can place it in any area you like. I have a listed I used to convert gods I'll see if I can hunt it up
Sorry guys I have been a bit busy of late.
If you wouldn't mind doing that seekerofshadowlight that would be downright fantastic. I'm still getting my head around the setting whilst studying and working with exams around the corner so I don't have as much time to do the reading that I would like to do.
I had a bit of a question, well a number of questions. One of my regular gaming groups is about to change over to Pathfinder but a number of the players have been keen to do the "Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk".
So my questions as the GM were;
1) Where in Golarion would you set it?
Many thanks in advance.
Stefan Hill wrote:
Which is the thing that leaves me scratching my head? Why would WoTC do away with the income from pdf sales of older product? It doesn't make financial sense to me and I was kinda expecting/hoping that someone on the boards might have something intelligent to say on that matter. Instead we got this "my favourite system is better than yours" pissing competition whose vitriol I find rather surprising if not shocking.
Scott Betts wrote:
Yes the OGL allows companies to produce that support which in the past (preOGL) would have been impossible. But the fact that companies do continue to support it shows that they believe/hope/know that there is enough demand for they produce, that there are enough customers out there to support them. What is "enough" will depend on company size, overhead etc but I think we can agree that this is a little more than a niche market.
Your last statement sums up the problem we all have getting to grips with what affect 4e is having on the gaming world. Nobody has been able to produce hard sales figures and even then you'll get people arguing that just because someone bought the book doesn't mean they play the system..yada yada yar.
What we are left with are our own opinions of what we see around us. I am currently playing in 4 regular, one semi regular games and one that looks like becoming defunct. Of the 20 odd players in those groups 2 are moving/moved exculsively to 4e, 2 are playing 4e in other games and will continue to do so whilst also playing 3.5 looking to switch to PFRPG late in the year. Another 2 I am uncertain about but the rest are planning to go PFRPG and are not looking at 4e at all. My local games store is sell 4e but has the Pathfinder Adventure Paths right alongside. They are currently selling the last of their 3/3.5e Goodman Games Modules but word is that they will NOT be getting the 4e ones in. From that perspective 4e looks to be doing really badly but I am not naive enough think that this has to be the whole story.
I didn't find the article terriably academic. Too short, no citations, no real analysis of what WoTC/Hasbro were out to achieve nor did I find the reasons for the fan revolt compelling (some examples would have been good).
The reasons for a fan revolt seem, to me, be intergral with the reasons for WoTC/Hasbro releasing 4e. The fact that there has been any kind of revolt shows that the decision by WoTC/Hasbro did not have the full support of their customer base (witness the "my system is better than yours" comments on this very thread). The fact that the "rebel" faction, those players that have not switched to 4e have the support of a number of companies (some of which are hedging their bets it seems) shows that the move to 4e has been rejected by a substantial faction if not a majority of the existing customer base.
To me a more interesting question is what happens to 3.5e now that is essentially an "orphan" game system. Before things like the OGL and "orphan" system basically disappeared unless adopted by another publisher as Paizo has done in this case. But whereas the back catalogue once went with the system this has not happened in this case. Paizo didn't purchase 3.5e and didn't have the rights to any of the old WoTC modules or source books. In the past you were able to track down old books in bookstores, WoTC has in effect recalled all old stock both in printed and electronic form the later quite suddenly.
What level of "piracy" are we going to see on p2p networks? Is it still piracy if the product cannot be obtained otherwise? Why would WoTC/Hasbro cut off a source of income tapped from customers that had rejected their move to 4e? What information is WoTC/Hasbro basing their decision making and business model on?
Just my 2 bobs worth.
Unfavourable winds, or none at all. If they arrive early evening then the drowned ones might attack the ship. Ohh zombies making holes in the bottom of your boat, ooohhhh. ;)
Matthew Vincent wrote:
I meant to say I ran PHH between The Lightless Depths and *City of Broken Idols* (because the PC's needed more XP before taking on CoBI)
So how did you get them to Scuttlecove? My lot are a bit like gung-ho combat monkeys. They'll charge right into COBI regardless of how much I might suggest they're not up to it. I need a good hook.
Using Harliss as SoS does might work. She needs help to do something for Tyralandi (knock over the PH) to get Tyralandi's help in firstly sending the message and in gathering info on the Crimson Fleet. Might work.
Carl Cramér wrote:
You mean they whimped out? How did they go with the "Wreck"?
Back to PHH. It should be relatively easy to beef up the module to fit the level the characters are at by then. Any ideas/problems?
Did your party run PHH and then SoS or did they play the Jade Ravens for PHH? Where there any issues with running PHH?
To my thinking PHH could slot into SoS with clearing it out being Tryalandi's price for her help. I like the idea of the drug being made from the savage pearls. I'll steal that.
I have been thinking that I might run "The Porphyry House Horror" from Dungeon 95 as part of "Serpents of Scuttlecove". It would mean that Tyralandi would not yet be running the Porphyry House but I can't see much else that would need changing.
Has anyone done this? Are there any thoughts on how to fit this in?
Thanks in advance.
I just ran my group of 6 players (barbarian, fighter, ranger, wu jen, rogue, warlock) through part of BWG. Decided to throw 5 savage monkeys at them. None of the party has magic weapons yet and they nearly lost 3 members to the monkeys. And that is with the warlock blasting them every round. A party without 2 heavy hitters (and this is meant to be a 3rd level) is really going to find it tough to do Kraken cove without magic weapons.
I know that there is a Glories thread and an Obituaries thread, but this fits in neither.
I swear that my players never do what I expect them to.
Anyone else got any mad stories?
1. You could still have the Vanderboren estate part as written but have the bad guys hanging around to snatch Vanthus when he turns up. They have been there a couple of days and are getting real nervous and starting to get real mean to their hostages.
2. The party could still get the Sea Wyvern. Lavinia's parents commissioned two ships, the one they died in, and the newly completed Sea Wyvern.
3. If no ships are left then Harliss may well be stuck, just drop the Sea Wyvern. She can hole up in the caves, barricade herself and be too weak to make a break because she is feeling the effects of savage fever. If the party can cure her then she will be real grateful with information
Just a couple of quick thoughts.
I haven't long started myself. My PC's are just now encountering savage pirates. Everyone in my group was so excited about Savage Tide that they all wrote backgrounds involving Sasserine and all of these crossed over with at least one of the other players (with very minor adjustments) so getting started was not issue for me. Launched into "There is no Honor" straight away.
Several of you seem to have developed Sasserine... I did not want to expand or tie-in other adventures as I did in Age of Worms but... This has to be examined. Also I have always wanted to DM the Shrine of Tamoachan... Argh
Sasserine is very easy to fill out if your lazy. "War of the Wielded" from Dungeon 149 is written with Sasserine as the back drop and fits in well with the adventure path. With the Lotus Dragons gone, thanks to the PC's, the older thieves guilds come back to the fore wielded magic weapons that they hoped would be useful against the Lotus Dragons...
If your party is a bit into blood sports I seem to remember looking at a Dungeon adventure involving a Gladiatorial arena. Cant think which one...
I'm running a large group and I have used "Salvage Operation" from Dungeon 123 to introduce the Sea Wyvern as part of a shakedown cruise. In my AP Lavinia's parents comissioned two ships. The one they died on and the Sea Wyvern, finished just in time for the PC's to try out (and get them into Blood Bay and "The Bullywug Gambit").
See the "C1 in Wyverns Wake" thread if you want to expand the Tamoachan encounter which I certainly will be doing.
Good luck and have fun.