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y'all helped me figure stuff out, too, and I'm super grateful for your viability <3 <3

Tirisfal wrote:

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Tirisfal wrote:

I find it interesting that I've only heard cis folks use the phrase "cis scum".

We simply say we don't trust cis people, and that gets recentered by cisfeelings about how wronged they are, rather than asking us what it is that makes us not trust you.

Well, yes. Because you are wronging the individual.

When you take any individual who probably has done nothing wrong and blame them for the failings of a group as unspecific as 99+% of the planet that's some pretty serious discrimination. Replace cis with any minority and read it again.

I'm saying that the phrase "cis scum" is one I hear a lot and it is a false insult that doesn't exist in our circles. Cis folks made it up to make themselves feel like victims because cis folks are not anywhere near as marginalized as trans folks and they have to make it about themselves...every time.

Trans folks are 100% incapable of discriminating against cis people...discrimination is a institutional system that requires us to have social power over you.

Cis folks always use "cis scum" as a way to show that "you're prejudice against us! cis is an insult" and I'm like..."I've never used those two words together...? I just don't trust y'all and making things all about you like you are now is one of the reasons"

Cis people murder us. Cis people discriminate against us in the workplace. Cis people don't recognize our existence half the time.

Saying that I don't trust you isn't discrimination, its a learned behavior.

I must disagree. Anyone can be a bigot, regardless of who they are or how they present or where they stand in society. It is an insidious and active thing, not a by product of experiences.

"prejudice" and "bigotry" are very different things.

I prejudge cis folks to disappoint me or hurt me because its a defensive action to do so.

I am not bigoted towards cis people because I'm not intolerant toward you for holding a different opinions. I just don't trust you.

Marginalized folks are allowed to not trust their oppressors.

Tirisfal wrote:

I find it interesting that I've only heard cis folks use the phrase "cis scum".

We simply say we don't trust cis people, and that gets recentered by cisfeelings about how wronged they are, rather than asking us what it is that makes us not trust you.

Well, yes. Because you are wronging the individual.

When you take any individual who probably has done nothing wrong and blame them for the failings of a group as unspecific as 99+% of the planet that's some pretty serious discrimination. Replace cis with any minority and read it again.

I'm saying that the phrase "cis scum" is one I hear a lot and it is a false insult that doesn't exist in our circles. Cis folks made it up to make themselves feel like victims because cis folks are not anywhere near as marginalized as trans folks and they have to make it about themselves...every time.

Trans folks are 100% incapable of discriminating against cis people...discrimination is a institutional system that requires us to have social power over you.

Cis folks always use "cis scum" as a way to show that "you're prejudice against us! cis is an insult" and I'm like..."I've never used those two words together...? I just don't trust y'all and making things all about you like you are now is one of the reasons"

Cis people murder us. Cis people discriminate against us in the workplace. Cis people don't recognize our existence half the time.

Saying that I don't trust you isn't discrimination, its a learned behavior.

I find it interesting that I've only heard cis folks use the phrase "cis scum".

We simply say we don't trust cis people, and that gets recentered by cisfeelings about how wronged they are, rather than asking us what it is that makes us not trust you.

Randomness: the corpse in the middle is the same guy as the brawler npc from the core rulebook!

I actually got a guy into Pathfinder at the bookstore I work at because of all of the free stuff. He told me he was interested in it but he heard it was like 3.5 and was worried about spending a ton of money on it and his eyes lit up when I told him about the PRD and showed him the free android app. He comes back into my store at least once a month to check out the new books now

Carrion Crown was a road trip, too

Are any of the APs not so city centric? I keep waiting for something wilderness based or exploration based to come out, and nothing... Maybe something with a small town as the hub or even a series of small towns. Something with a sense of adventure.

City based adventures are just not interesting to me (or my group). I am hoping something interesting comes along to get us to try playing pathfinder again. And the next AP series sounds even worse... an evil party? Ugh.

Wasn't Kingmaker, Giant Slayer, Wrath of the Righteous, Reign of Winter, Skull & Shackles, Jade Regent, Serpent's Skull, and Second Darkness all not really very urban?

She's getting a lot of press

Edit: I'll post the buzzfeed link then. ^_^

I just saw the article linked on fb and I gasped with excitement so loud when I saw her face shared by Laverne Cox I scared my cat!! I was coming here link it <3

Tirisfal wrote:

magnuskn wrote:

Dale McCoy Jr wrote:

Hell's Vengeance is spring ap. You play bad buys. No, I'm not kidding.

Oh, hey, another opportunity to let my subscription lapse for six months. Woopee.

Didn't you publicly decry the good guy ap, too?

To be fair, that was more about the end result than the plot and themes.

Habitually and sarcastically pooping on something many folks are excited about doesn't make anyone cool - just pointing that out.

Dale McCoy Jr wrote:

Hell's Vengeance is spring ap. You play bad buys. No, I'm not kidding.

Oh, hey, another opportunity to let my subscription lapse for six months. Woopee.

Didn't you publicly decry the good guy ap, too?

Gothic writer Alison Kindler, from Ustalav, always made me think- Anne Rice.

Think Bram "Stoker", as well :)

I really appreciate everyone involved in the last few pages. I've been away from the boards for a while because of work, but I still check this thread from time to time, and I really appreciate all of you for being so vocal about something that I'm still figuring out myself.

That said, I've been out to myself, my wife, and my therapist for the last few months; if I can manage to get them out of their house, I'm going to come out to my mom and sister at lunch tomorrow.

Thanks to all of you, I'm confidant that I'll be able to handle all of their awkward and well-meaning-but-really-offensive questions.

Despite that, wish me luck D:

dunebugg wrote:

If your middle-class straight cis (hate this word) white male

I hate that word too!

I don't see why you should...it just means "not trans".

Without the word "cis", trans folks become the "other" in a way that denotes them as a deviant aberration and suggests that cis folks are the "default" or "normal"; both points being decidedly incorrect.

This isn't the thread to discuss gender studies, but I needed to point that out.

I really want to say thank you to all of the trans folks we have here on the boards, and let you know that I truly appreciate all that you do here helping out the other folks that are struggling with dysphoria <3

Tirisfal wrote:

"I'm not really a fan of Golarion, but some folks dig it so I guess it has its charms" would have been a lot less sarcastic and flamebaity, but we get the idea.

Snorb wrote:

Forgotten Realms? =p

LOL! I <3 it.

Because I wasn't thinking of either of these published worlds.

Srsly though all game worlds are "charming" from a certain POV. It's just that with one in particular, for me, it's more than a little difficult to get my head around the in-game explanations of why things are the way they are. The sort of make-believe an 8-10 year old comes up with. .. Which can be "charming" in it's own way but I'm not going to pay $$ for it.

Somehow I don't think suggesting that the folks who make their living writing these things are no more intelligent than an "8-10 year old" is doing much for your opinion, either.

How 'bout the one where the whole game world is mish-mash of tropes from a dozen unrelated fictional settings and non-fictional time periods. Each one carelessly vivisected from it's original narrative scope and plopped unceremoniously next to the others with no real attempt at integration. All this strung over a pre-existing game mechanic framework that manifestly does not support the trope-menagerie playing style proffered by the game designer.

I would say more but it might get me in trouble. ;>

"I'm not really a fan of Golarion, but some folks dig it so I guess it has its charms" would have been a lot less sarcastic and flamebaity, but we get the idea.

So my wife informed me that today is National Coming Out Day. I said cool, then maybe now is a good time to tell you that I have been considering it for awhile and I might be a woman.

She said: That's cool, I love you for who you are and completely support you.

Cool.

My wife was the same <3

Primates love social hierarchies. Even the ones near the bottom of the social ladder often attempt to feel better by exerting authority over the few beneath them. I confess that in high school, I was pretty far down the ladder, and I often tried to take it out on those even less popular than me. I figured out what I'd been doing once I had graduated, but it was too late to prevent the psychological damage I'm certain I contributed too; I haven't even been able to find them to apologize. I hate so many of the lessons I learned in school.

Good people and bad people sometimes treat others badly, or say stupid things. The difference is that good people actively try to better themselves and avoid making the same mistakes twice. I regret a lot of the things I said in college, and the things I argued. And even after college, I still find myself making mistakes and being a dumb person. I don't think I'm a good person, but I want to be.

A few years ago, I pushed a very dear friend away because I got called out for being a dismissive jerk, and rather than take it as criticism and move on, I took it personally and fought, and blew it up way beyond anything that it should have been until I felt like the worst person on the planet. I got back in touch with her and apologized two years later, and thankfully I've earned myself a second chance, but I still think about it and I'm still embarrassed by it, but that's how we learn and improve!

Fourshadow wrote:

It has already been established as such, so why change it now?

Because it's needlessly anachronistic and sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the setting, especially given how this nation supposedly grew out of a vassal state of other realms. Also, in a setting where firearms are rare and armored warriors still prevail, they've been set up to be slaughtered in any battle.

While the attire, colonial US anachronisms, etc. would be fine in another setting, given Andoran's prominence in the Inner Sea, just "ignoring it" doesn't really work.

I love the premise of Andoran as a solid "good guy nation", but every time I had to look at the uber-colonial artwork, it killed it for me. Andoran is the nation that I WANT to like the most (I've centered a campaign there).

Its THAT argument again!

Look, first off, 17th-19th century stuff is my favorite; my homebrew is heavily inspired by the cultures of that era (such as colonial America, the French Revolution, the Age of Enlightenment, Edo Period, etc), so its safe to say that this is totally my cup of tea. I get that this isn't for some people, just as pirates and space lazors aren't for others, but I'm the target demographic for this one.

Secondly, how does this really anachronistically stick out when its stuck between a nation with a space ship jutting out of a mountain, a nation with an abyssal chasm torn into it, or (my favorite) a nation shrouded in fog and overrun by Victorian zombies, vampires, and werewolves and was once ruled by Sauron?

Last I checked, Golarion is supposed to be a kitchen sink, so claiming that ONE nation is anachronistic when the rest of the campaign setting is taken into account is just silly.

Golarion isn't middle earth; there are wizards flying spaceships, dragons with guns, pirates fighting kamen rider assassins, and liches with pith helmets, 'cause liches love pith helmets.

Tirisfal wrote:

Rysky's gonna be excited about this! :D

*sniff*

The Pumpkin gets me ^w^

You are pretty neat.

Rysky's gonna be excited about this! :D

Wiggz, you can decry our disagreement with you as immature hyperbole all you want, but the point stands: I think that you're taking this "heavy-handed" stuff too far, and it's beginning to grate.

Have you seen your posting history lately? I can pretty much guess what you're going to write 90% of the time just by seeing your name on the boards. I understand that you have a problem with queer things in your RPG, but I don't know what you're trying to prove by stating it over and over (and liking your own posts sometimes to give the illusion that someone actually agrees with you), because Paizo has already said it ain't changing, and the vast majority of us here have no problem with it.

I'm not attacking you or being mean or oppressing you, but it needs to be said that you're exhausting me, because I'm constantly having to re-explain to people every day why inclusion is important, and why it isn't an "agenda" just because ONE item was added to the game, or ONE NPC was added.

Just because things are slightly more even in our direction, does not suddenly make the entire game gay, or suddenly remove all of the straight people from the game.

Once again, Wiggz, you are so on point it's scary.

With your Kolchak-level investigative reporting, you have discovered and outed our agenda.

Curses!

We had hoped that we could insidiously inject your RPG games with optional social liberalism and inclusivity; options that you could easily opt out of in your own games before you noticed it, but you found us out! The next step to offering inclusive options was totally going to be physically enforcing it at your game table, but we would never get away with that now!

We're deeply sorry that making the game a space where everyone feels welcome and can tell whatever stories they want to has singled you out and made you feel victimized, because you certainly have never personally been catered to in every form of media for the last forever, and now that other kinds of people are being catered to, the world that you know is under attack by our agenda!

Next time, Gadget! Next time!!

I'm too tired to engage in this mess.

LO THERE DO I SEE MY MOTHER AND MY SISTERS AND MY BROTHERS

!!!!

I've been doing a similar thing for my homebrew gods. Which pantheons do you need the most help with? I'm pretty well versed with most of them, or at least know enough about them to know where to look for additional information.

I can definitely help with Greek, Slavic, Aztec, Hindu, and Yoruban, though.

Know Direction posted their video of the GenCon Queer as a Three-Sided Die panel today.

Also, can you peeps differentiate between accepting and non without going "liberal" and "conservative". I'm conservative, and I really don't care who puts what where and why since it's just none of my business.

Well, I was referring to socially conservative folks, who are generally "socially conservative" and aren't keen on their idea of the status quo being challenged, and has nothing to do with politics. It's not meant as a slight to anyone to make the statement that I feel safer in a more socially liberal town because I mostly get left alone to express myself however I want without fear of physical or verbal repercussions. That's not to say that conservatives are all automatically bad (nor would I ever say that all liberals are good); however, I grew up in a conservative town, and the few years I spent in a college town for work was a huge culture shock for me.

That said, I'm sorry if what I said offended you; I should have made a better word choice because it wasn't my intention to slight anyone.

Seriously, I love this book. Sure, there're a few editing issues, but I have found such mistakes in every book I've ever read. I have to applaud the team for working so hard on this book and giving us something that will provide me with endless ideas.

I'm not good at crunch, so I'm thankful that these folks are able to put out high quality books like this to help me with most of the heavy lifting. If I disagree with the way that something works, or I prefer it to work a different way, I can always adjust it, and that freedom is the beauty of table top :)

ALL the stars :D

Tirisfal wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Tirisfal wrote:

That makes me want to move to Oregon even more.

I'm hoping we'll be questing our way into the Pacific Northwest sometime in the next year or so because I'm tired of the angry, conservative-minded (not calling out republicans, conservative) vitriol I have to deal with every day down here in Northwest Florida. Granted, its something I'll never completely escape, but I hear its better up there.

Anyone got any tips for making our way out that way?

Keep an eye out for Dysentery.

Why would I want to expose my eye to dysentery? ;)

I dunno, whose eyes are they anyway?

*stares down the Pumpkin gourd*

I found them, ok?

The lady friend and I really loved this book, and it was totally worth the wait. Each of the classes look like they turned out great, but the archetypes are probably my favorite part of the book. The Swashbuckler, Investigator, and Slayer remained favorites of mine in their final versions, but their archetypes are probably even more fun sounding than the default classes.

There are more ideas for PCs and NPCs in this book than I can handle right now.

TimD wrote:

Love the thought of a masqued ball encounter:

Not only the disguised devils and devil minions, but the opportunity for a disguised heir of Sheraya Solistar to be secretly in attendence...
...Intrigues of devil-supporters vying with rebels and attempting to convince followers of Red Mantis that Abrogail is legit and not lawful prey to the Red Mantis...
...and, of course, the Veiled Master at the heart of it all.

Would also love to see some details on other Hellknight Orders, maybe even some who are actually just actually carrying out the last orders of King Gaspodar and awaiting a proper heir to throne of Cheliax to arrive so that they can surrender what was lost at Korradath.

The ultimate dream would be for some love of evil in the AP with recommendations on how to run this for a black-hat party (even if not supporting Thrune, as apparently there is no legal requirement that the crown go to the heir of Abrogail I.)

-TimD

Dude.

A PC Red Mantis Assassin or some other such "masked assassin/rebel" type.

At that masquerade ball.

In full assassin attire.

Walking right up to the target. Right in plain sight.

This has to happen.

I want to play a Mysterious Avenger Swashbuckler all throughout this campaign! D:

Maybe with a dip into the Sleuth Investigator? :D

I hate working doubles on Thursdays because I'm always late to the cool things! D:

Urban adventure!!!! <3 <3 <3

EDIT: Masked ball!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I've been so sad every time I scroll past the Campaign Journals and haven't seen an update :(

*is excite*

Hook was important to me as a child.

Same. This is sad and really shocking.

The really important question is, if you're going to rage quit over inclusion and throw away all of your books, can I have them? I'll pay shipping ;)

Also, if you think that D&D is "safe"...

(they used some problematic language, but it's better than nothing, I guess...)

I like options and I like freedom.

If I could shapeshift, I would want to look like that android lady forever.

The Hunter was the only class I wasn't super excited about during the playtest because I honestly wasn't sure what niche it was trying to fill. At first, I thought it felt too much like the WoW class, but now I'm beginning to see that that isn't necessarily a bad thing. The Hunter was my wife's second favorite class in WoW after the Druid, so she's excited to give the final version a go.

Switching it to a spontaneous caster, lending it a bit more magical firepower in the early levels, and additional teamwork feats may well set it further apart from the Ranger and Druid. I'm excited to run a session with a Ranger, Druid, and Hunter on the same team and see how my players feel about them in terms of similarities and differences.

Crystal Frasier wrote:

thejeff wrote:

True when it comes to real people. (Or in that case one fictional person to another.)

Somewhat less so when dealing with fictional characters. We often know many things about fictional characters that would be horribly rude to ask of real people.

So we know details about any other iconic's personal bits? Kyra's cup size? Whether or not Valeros is circumcised? The color of Lini's squeedily spooch?

No. Though from the art, cup size could probably be guessed. We do however know, or at least can assume barring accidents or other unrevealed trans characters, the basic nature of their bits. Color, size, circumcision and such things all are much smaller details.

More importantly, this is a character detail as well as a physical detail, which the other things you list generally aren't. Did she seek out a magical method to change her personal bits? Did she choose not to? Has she not made up her mind? Is she still looking for a way? And more importantly, for all of those, why?
There's character insight in all of that.

Again of course, I'd never ask a real person about any of this, unless we were very close.

I wouldn't ask at all; close or not.

If it's really that important for you to know (and it really isn't), why haven't you spoken up about Val's junk, or how Alain manscapes, or whether or not Imirjika's any different downstairs than a human woman? How is any of that unimportant to you when you so desperately need answers for this?

Edit; ninja'd by Crystal, but my point still holds >:(

What I'm getting from your words is that Shardra's tinctures make her body woman-like, but not actually female. In other words, she has male genitalia and would be unable to bear children, etc.

I feel like someone's genitalia isn't of anyone's concern; if she identifies as female, she's female. A person's junk is their business, and no one should be expected to disclose that information to the public, trans* or not.

I know this is a fictional character, but I'm so sick of folks asking trans* folks this question all the time.

I worked a double yesterday, and I didn't catch this thread until I saw it on tumblr this morning :)

Thank you Crystal for being all kinds of awesome. I am consistently enamored with your writing style and demonstration of knowledge, and as a religion nerd, was really happy with how you portrayed a shaman and her twin soul aspect :)

I'm also really happy with the dialogue going on here...I was really worried that there would be more negativity, but the community surprises me once again. Inclusion is super important, and Paizo continues to do so in the most awesome ways possible.

Lazor Princess Crystal; hero.