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Goblin Squad Member. RPG Superstar 2013 Star Voter, 2015 Star Voter. Pathfinder Adventure Path, Maps, Modules Subscriber. FullStar Pathfinder Society GM. 945 posts (948 including aliases). 1 review. No lists. No wishlists. 41 Pathfinder Society characters. 2 aliases.


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Bogeyman: CR10
add Antipaladin 5: +5 CR (because there's no way antipaladin isn't "key" for a bogeyman, LOL)
add Ghost: +2 CR
add Favorable Terrain: +1 CR

Total CR 18 ea.

... and you have multiples? ... how many? ... against what level party?
... and how do they know who has the lowest Will save?

-TimD


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The damage is untyped and one comes from paladin levels, the other from hellknight levels, so it is coming from two different sources. Therefore, damage would stack, but the Charisma bonuses would not because of the same type rule & FAQ about double-attribute stacking.

Also, keep in mind the action economy. Both smites require the character's swift action for that round, so cannot be activated on the same round that they activated the other smite ability, nor can they lay on hands on themselves in any round which they have activated a smite.

-TimD


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Good luck, Fox.

I have 10 PFS chars I need to change out build progressions for because of the ACG errata, so I can commiserate ...

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Kevin Ingle wrote:
TimD wrote:
Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
Free items from class features or prestige are worth 0 gold for purposes of reselling.

Really? Where is that specified?

The only thing I've seen that addresses selling class-specific starting equipment is:

Additional Resources, Ultimate Combat wrote:
Gunslinger: A gunslinger's starting gun (granted by the gunsmith class feature) is worth 22 gp if sold (the average of 4d10).
HERE

Random board post from 2012, that explains why I couldn't find it in the Guide...

Thanks!

-TimD

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Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
Free items from class features or prestige are worth 0 gold for purposes of reselling.

Really? Where is that specified?

The only thing I've seen that addresses selling class-specific starting equipment is:

Additional Resources, Ultimate Combat wrote:
Gunslinger: A gunslinger's starting gun (granted by the gunsmith class feature) is worth 22 gp if sold (the average of 4d10).


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Kalindlara wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:
TimD wrote:

First the change to books in a format I don't buy and now this.

Bummed :(

-TimD

Just out of curiosity ... what does that mean?
Tor Publishing is printing the books in a larger, "trade paperback" format, as opposed to the "mass market" novels we've gotten thus far.

^ exactly.

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Mark Stratton wrote:
I don't think photocopies establish proof of ownership (they would certainly satisfy the need to the document on hand for rules references, yes.) Watermarked .pdfs do (and altering secure .pdfs isn't as easy as some people think, nor will everyone have the ability/capacity to do so.)

I disagree with the portion of your statement I bolded.

Unfortunately, it's very difficult to refute this in any detail as Paizo board policy is understandably very unforgiving about discussing such details as they don't want to encourage piracy of their product.

Additional conversation could also be had discussing hardcopy forgeries, but again, I'm not sure what the limits are on this topic as far as Paizo moderation is concerned and I'd rather not poke that hornets nest of potential strife. Better to err on the side of caution that have to post again in the "apologize to Chris L. for your misdeeds" thread ;)

-TimD


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Liz Courts wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Ashley Kaprielian wrote:
This is going to be my first GenCon and I'm really excited for the cosplay! You guys always do such a great job.
What character are you cosplaying as?
Wait—can Paizo employees do cosplay at the GenCon booth?! O.O

This sounds like a lead-in to another "overheard at Paizo" quote...

"I was cosplaying as Reiko, it's not MY fault that no one could see me at the GenCon booth".
<.<
>.>
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Imbicatus wrote:
There is also the fact that Wyroot is made from Wyrwood. Making weapons out of sentient beings is a little evil for PFS, which is likely why it was banned.

We just don't talk about the dragonscale armor...

<.<
>.>
<.<

... for some reason, the druids get upset when we do. Something about "taking us out like the rogues did the vivisectionists".

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Paz wrote:
The heaviest books have the cheapest PDFs ($9.99). This is deliberate.

Not really. Paizo deliberately prices their "setting neutral" core books cheaper for .pdf in many cases and in one case (Inner Sea World Guide did so for a Golarion-specific hardcover, but in general their "splat book" .pdfs are priced very close to their hardcopy books). One of the Paizo folks (Vic or Erik, I think) actually go into it in a decent amount of detail in one of their posts, but I'm too caffeine-deprived to go looking for it at the moment.

Lab_Rat wrote:
Shrink wrapped books cut down on sales

Sad, but true. [cues Metallica]

-TimD


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First the change to books in a format I don't buy and now this.
Bummed :(

-TimD


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110. Infect them with were-poodle lycanthropy. Tell them that the only cure is by sacrificing other goblins to Zarongel with (un)holy fire.

(random observation on the strangeness of the modern world: my spell-check at work knows how to spell lycanthropy)

111. Use modify memory to make them think that they had learned to read and enjoyed it. Hand them a punch dagger and lock them in a room saying "you know what you have to do".

112. Cast a permanent illusion on them to make them look like a dog or horse as they are sleeping in their village. When they wake up, their neighbors will do the rest for you.


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Manwolf wrote:
Most Americans can't even tell the difference between a Sikh and a Muslim

This has always made me sad (mostly for the Sikhs).

-TimD


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I am cautiously optimistic about this one.

-TimD

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Chris Mortika wrote:
TimD wrote:
I'd rather see First Steps II & III restored as the faction changes are no more jarring to me from an immersion standpoint than playing Season 0 scenarios after playing more recent ones .
As general Pathfinder Society adventures, I'd agree with you, Tim. But do they serve as introductions to the campaign? I think they would need updating. (If only to change the little bits of "framing material" about the factions.)

I wouldn't mind seeing them updated, to be sure.

However, (at least as far as I know) we've pretty much never seen anything actually updated and re-released that is PFS-specific, other than the Guide. If it were an option, I'd love to see some of the "returned from retirement" scenarios that were run at PaizoCon released back into the wilds of general PFS play (if only to fill holes on my spreadsheet of played / unplayed).
That said, I understand that the Paizo staff has limited resources, though, so would be very surprised if resources at Paizo were diverted to do such an update.

If a Season 7 "repeatable intro series" were in the works, I'd rather see it as something with a slightly different flavor than First Steps / Confirmation, perhaps with PCs actually working for a PF Agent unknowingly and then being recruited into the Society afterwards or a"PCs show skills that make the society want THEM" or some other type of scenario that breaks from "your goal is to join the PF Society, now run errands until we decide you are worthy of our time". Anything which would allow for a player to have thematically different introductions to the Society and yet still be repeatable.

Also, nice intro for MoFF :)

-TimD

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Fomsie wrote:

OK, so, at this point I think we have the following covered:

Team Necromancer

Team Inquisitor

Team Hug-It-Out

and Balls

Does that about cover it?

Team Schadenfreude?

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We're going to have to agree to disagree as I think the threshold should be "broken enough to be irreparable and remove" rather than "remarkable enough to keep". Especially as I'd rather see First Steps II & III restored as the faction changes are no more jarring to me from an immersion standpoint than playing Season 0 scenarios after playing more recent ones (Ex. Many Fortunes of Grandmaster Torch after Rivalry's End) or similar scenarios which reference things which have changed since the campaign timeline has progressed.

-TimD

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As usual, I would oppose the elimination of any of our already limited content. The irony of a proposal to limit a mod to CORE only that was intended to showcase APG classes is not lost on me, either.

The inability of folks to agree on something that they all thinks are obvious and which are all mutually exclusive is hardly a new thing on the internet. Doubly or triply so on the Paizo boards. "It's more trouble than it's worth" is a really low bar and includes the majority of our content if viewed through the lenses of the internet.

-TimD


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NobodysHome wrote:
ryric wrote:
Casting a spell as your first response to meeting any new person seems like a good way to start a lot of unnecessary fights...

Did I mention, "Kids' game"? :-P

Succubus... kids game... um... yikes?!

Also, "you begin casting, initiative" is a good answer to limiting detect magic casting spam - NPCs who fail the check to identify the spell being cast or don't have Spellcraft may assume that it's a hostile spell ; also diplomacy is not generally an option once combat has begun.

-TimD


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Saldiven wrote:
Bandw2 wrote:
TimD wrote:


Now if they have active contingencies, then it could get messy...
why does a contingency move faster than a readied action?

Hrm. Maybe the interpretation would be that a readied action by definition takes place during the initiative sequence which doesn't occur until combat has started. A contingent spell can trigger at any time, even before combat starts.

Now, that's just based on a hyper-strict reading of the rules. The combat section says that "When combat begins, all combatants roll initiative." There is no other reference to initiative for outside of combat that I can find.

"Ready" is listed as one of a number of "Special Initiative Actions" that "change when you act during combat by altering your place in the initiative order."

Conversely, Contingency states that when the trigger condition is met, then contingency casts the spell "immediately" and "instantaneously." It need not occur during combat, and I would contend that Contingency might even break the initiative order in combat.

Though, back to a previous comment, I can't really see a rules basis for having a readied action when you're outside of combat, when a "readied action" is something specifically defined as something you do in combat.

^ sums it nicely.

-TimD


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I think you're thinking of the bugbear spell, Isolate (can't find a direct link to the spell, but on this page).

-TimD


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+1 for trap; no initiative before combat begins.

Now if they have active contingencies, then it could get messy...

-TimD


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Gregory Connolly wrote:
I think it would be really cool to see a code for Zarongel for example.

I think the only copy of the Code of Zarongel was burned on a pyre of dogs and horses along with the blasphemer who wrote it down.

-TimD

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Personally, I don't care.

That said, I'm probably biased as I often do it myself to try make sure the tables I play at are balanced (ie "need a healer? - great, I'll play a level 1 life oracle and apply the credit to a 1st level arcanist I'll probably not play until they're at least 2nd or 3rd level").

-TimD

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Thea Peters wrote:
claudekennilol wrote:

Obviously not. Between the two of us it doesn't seem like I'm the one that's not reading the conversation. The rux of the issue is "Is there a way for a player to provide the rules if he owns only physical books without having to carry those books around?"

One example of a way this could be done is to photocopy the necessary materials from said books. Obviously this isn't currently legal.

I've been a part of the previous 6 or 7 conversations .. so I'm well aware of what is wanted. Unfortunately nothing that has ever been said in those conversations is any different than what is being said in this one.

I will note .. in this conversation .. and in previous ones .. the lines between want and not want are generally divided between player and GM .. respectively

False dichotomy.

As a GM I can use naught but photocopies to my dark little heart's content and no one will bat an eye.
As a player, it's quite a bit different because for some strange reason it's viewed as harder to get a doctored .pdf than a doctored photocopy.

-TimD


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Kalindlara wrote:
Dave Justus wrote:
I can't think of any god that has two sub-domains of the same domain, so typically the question wouldn't even come up.

Asmodeus: Arcane/Divine, Ash/Smoke.

Ash/Smoke for Yamatsumi, as well.

Neither replaces the same domain power, nor the same levels of spells.

I'd always assumed they would stack as archtypes do.
Interesting that others assume the opposite...

[edit:] also, concur it wouldn't work with the OP's initial question / example as both replace the 9th level spell...

-TimD


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Concur on Vanish, but also worthy of consideration...

Infernal Healing (200 hp / day of self-healing)
Long Arm (+5 ft of reach can be very handy)
Mirror Strike (as it may allow you to get sneak attack on more than one opponent in one attack)
Memory Lapse (if at first your intimidate is not successful, try, try again...)
Windy Escape (assuming you are a Sylph or your GM will let you pick up racial spells)

-TimD


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Thanks for the update.
I often go back through old posts wondering what ever happened, so it is a nice change to know for once. :)

-TimD


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+1 for the consistent awesomeness of Paizo's Cust Svc folks.

I too have had nothing but positive interactions with them and knowing that they will be consistently awesome is a large reason why I returned from my subscriber walkabout (and even added a Modules subscription).

-TimD


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magnuskn wrote:
Black Dougal wrote:

So I wonder how boring Peace Talks is going to be as Harry has to be civil to everyone.

with luck he will use his superb polite and respectful diplomatic manner and defuse a tense negotiation session by getting Marcone to go to Burger King and bring back burgers and Coke.

Especially with the Mantle of the Winter Knight making him so much more diplomatic and easygoing!

Two things I'm really hoping for in Peace Talks:

Mavra being part of the "talks"...
... and a scene with Butters training with the einherjar and muttering about being more careful with what he says in the future...

-TimD


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Dotting :)


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DeciusNero wrote:
Huh - I see the Vulture King (Rasvocel?) as being an infernal duke. Did he switch to daemon-kind?

Interesting.

Could be - Paizo does switch stuff up on us sometimes.

I'd guess that it's more likely the fact that Paizo tends to reuse relatively simple naming conventions (winter witch archtype, winter witch prc ; skald language, skald class ; the Storm King in Wrath of the Righteous , the Storm Tyrant in Giantslayer ; etc.) and it's probably a relatively unknown daemonic deacon or harbinger like Mneoc, but serving Trelmarixian.

-TimD

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I think the issue is that we're arguing two different points, as your post illustrated to me. You are bringing up audits and people doing the wrong thing. I'm trying to find a way for those of us who are doing the right thing and have been doing so to be less encumbered and not encouraged to join the ranks of those who engage in "sloppy play". At this point it feels like the more I support my FLGS by purchasing Paizo products the more penalized I am, and the only obvious solution that doesn't involve me needing to buy books twice and also buy a tablet just for gaming is just to stop buying Paizo product (which I would hope isn't the solution that they are hoping we will come to). I've not actually purchased Unchained for this reason (the options aren't worth the added mass / weight / headache of juggling, especially as the only thing the book accomplished was forcing me to respec my few low level summoners and be glad I hadn't purchased Blood of the Elements).

I'll continue to hope that Paizo / PFS finds a way to encourage those of us who prefer dead tree solutions to electronic ones a way to use those resources without telling us that we have to buy things twice or just stop buying their product in general.

At this point any arguments I would make would just reiterate what I've already said, so I'm bowing out for a bit. Will check the thread again in a few weeks to see if anything of substance arises.

Thanks for trying, Gary. Luck to us both that you can get something workable and acceptable together.

-TimD


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Try kindness.
It'll never see THAT coming.

This message brought to you by the West Casmaron Reformed Church of Rovagug.

(as the first west casmaron church was eaten by the Armageddon engine and the church had to be reformed by recruiting other faithful)

-TimD


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thejeff wrote:

Darkover. Moorcock. Pern. Zelazny.

I read Covenant a little later. Not really for kids. :)

+1, especially the Unbeliever not being for kids...

-TimD

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So to find a similar metric to what was suggested: to those that have already suffered the onerous duty of doing this for Pathfinder Tales Chronicle Sheets (ie novels that a GM is required to sign off on showing proof of ownership), how much of your time is regularly wasted on this?

[edited to remove response that was more inflammatory than intended]

-TimD

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captain yesterday wrote:
Have you thought of it as a workout :-) every time you haul those 50 lbs of books you're bulking up, without having to pay a stupid gym membership :-)

Heh, nice. :)

One of the GMs in the area tells me they can hear my spine decompressing when I set down the bag.

It's more of an issue if I want to go to a con where space is at a premium, a 50+lb book bag is a tripping hazard, and I have a good chance of giving small children a concussion if they run into it while I'm taking a corner.
At this point, I just don't go to cons or if I do, I don't play there except with people I know so that I don't have to worry about the drama. I would like to have a solution that doesn't involve me needing to make yet more characters or playing CORE.

-TimD

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Duiker wrote:
There already is a voluntary opt-in program to pay extra to avoid carrying books to PFS. They're called PDFs and don't even require the VOs or GMs to do any extra work.

Not a solution, unless you're volunteering to buy me a .pdf of every book I own and offering print services for all of them in perpetuity or a tablet to use them with.

Duiker wrote:
TimD wrote:

an alternative to "have VO's sign off" (especially as there are hundreds of VO's out there and it's doubtful a VO from CA would recognize the signature of a VO from GA).

-TimD

and don't even require the VOs or GMs to do any extra work.

You're not even reading before you post, are you?

We'll try this once more...
Paizo does not support .pdf only. They consider print crucial to their business model.
PFS is (ostensibly) Paizo's primary / most successful marketing device. It does not currently support folks who just want books, but find the weight / space limit of hauling around all of the books cumbersome.
Some of us don't have the option to buy all of our books twice (once in print, once in .pdf).
Therefore, we are seeking a PFS solution to hauling around having 50+lbs of books we have purchased to support Paizo / PFS. (Especially as PFS is the ONLY reason I've bought most of the Paizo books I own and I doubt I'm alone in that cateogry).

I get that VO's have a lot on their plate.
I get that .pdfs are a great solution for some folks.
Please understand .pdfs are not a solution for all folks.

-TimD

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There was a thread about paying for more content to try to raise the amount of money PFS generated for Paizo in order to possibly increase staff to handle increasing scenario output.

I had recommended having some sort of opt-in program similar to what RPGA did where players could have some sort of paid PFS membership that would provide some sort of non-mechanical benefit. Having some sort of way to vet actual book purchases would be worth the $ to me to be able to use photocopies rather than having to haul around crazy amounts of physical product. From what I understand this might actually help Paizo since physical, rather than .pdf, product is a main part of their financial strategy (see the many many posts by Vic about why there is no .pdf subscription plan) and continue to support PFS as their main tool for marketing at the same time.

I'm not sure what specific form it would take, but might be an alternative to "have VO's sign off" (especially as there are hundreds of VO's out there and it's doubtful a VO from CA would recognize the signature of a VO from GA).

-TimD


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Lord Snow wrote:
1) A few days after you finish a book, do you actually still remember in detail everything that happened?

Yes. About 50 or 100 books later the details may start to fuzz - depends a lot on the book and how similar it is to others (ie David Eddings' books I may get a bit blurry about what happened in which books at this point since they were hundreds of books back and the Mallorean and the Belgariad were very very similar, but 8 Million Gods was only 10-12 books back so I remember it pretty clearly. Some books stick with me longer than others, though not in a predictable pattern.)

Lord Snow wrote:
2) Do you have strong emotional reactions to individual scenes in a book?

Of course. I've woken my girlfriend up a few times (especially when reading the Dresden books) laughing. I've stopped reading books because the main character(s) annoyed me.

Lord Snow wrote:
do you feel a connection to characters?

Very much so (well, depending on the character & the series).

While I'd never want the problems Harry Dresden has, I'd love to spend a week as the Stainless Steel Rat :)

Lord Snow wrote:
3) Do you ever read slowly? If you do, what are the differences in experience?

Not really

Lord Snow wrote:
4) How the hack can you read so quickly? I'm jealous >_<

um... practice? I've never taken a speed reading course or anything, but have read thousands of novels at this point in my life, plus who knows how many words via gaming books / internet / email / etc.

No point in jealousy. I'm a bit jealous you probably don't have to spend the $ I do to stay entertained. For awhile I was averaging about 20 books a month at Barnes & Noble. That got a bit expensive. Fortunately, now I have PFS to keep my reading habits closer to "in budget" (well that and I pretty much only buy two authors in hardback and all others only in mass market paperback, no trade paper, epub, etc. so my own stubbornness has also saved $) :)

-TimD


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The White Lion wrote:
What is the name of the feat that allows you to charge through allied squares?

Dragon Style

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Dotting for interest.

In the past, I've decided not to attend several cons / game days because I realized it was more of a pain than it was worth to bring the gargantuan pile of books which has literally torn the duffel I try to carry them in due to the weight.

If there were a solution that involved photocopies, chronicles, etc. that didn't involve subjecting myself to photography I'd be all about it and would try to attend more games outside of my local area.

-TimD

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+1 for "you can't".
Cort indicated earlier this year that it may be something that they will look at when they do a larger overhaul of the org play systems on the site, but thus far we've not seen anything else regarding it.

-TimD

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:(

I'll echo many of the sentiments above: sad to see you go. Should I see you at a con, I'll be happy to ply you with alcohol as a thank-you for what you've done for PFS, and perhaps swap some stories about good times that were had under your watch in PFS.

-TimD

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IQuarent wrote:
Are there an official rules about proof of ownership beyond the bring it with you/PDF rule?

No.

Dorothy Lindman wrote:

I hate pushing people to PDFs, because that doesn't help the local game stores.

It's not "official", but I would probably accept a photo of you with the book and then scans or copies of whatever relevant pages as a reasonable compromise.

You should check with the local GMs/VOs where you play and see if they can come up with some suggestions to accommodate your situation.

+1 to ^ (excepting I would never require someone to have to have themselves be photographed because that would be hypocritical of me)


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I default to active PvP, but have been known to play in or GM no PvP games (ie PFS).

I rarely have issues with it. Players rarely actually "full on red" PvP each other, even knowing it's an option. It mostly keeps them from doing dumb things to screw each other up as they know that the consequences will come from their group rather than just the GM.

Some of the best stories still told 15-20 years after the fact from our group started with light PvP (and the in-game consequences).

That said, it's all consensual PvP. Folks don't come into a game thinking there is no PvP just to find out that there it's a potentially PvP active game.

-TimD

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Quadstriker wrote:
There is a certain breed of individual that will go to any lengths to justify playing a douchebag character.

True, but talking about those types of paladin players often leads to too many "paladin falls" conversations... :)

-TimD

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Much fun was had running (and hopefully playing) this on Sat!

Bigguyinblack wrote:
We ran 4 tables of WBGF at our local store. Only 1 death at my table. The table next to us was a TPK. I didn't hear from the other 2. This one was rough.

No deaths at my table, I think S.N. was the only death at the other one.

-TimD


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First off, very interesting and thematic ability - definitely one way to combat the "scry & fry" tactics so often lamented on the boards.

A few thoughts:
1. You may want to consider a way to extend the ability to cover any familiars (such as that gained by the Warlock Talent) or animal companions, otherwise it's not much of a defense if a smart opponent can just scry on your familiar rather than you.

2. You may want to address how other classes from multi-classing affect or interact with the social vs. vigilante classes, especially for classes with alignment restrictions or codes, such as a paladin.
(Because yet another reason for "the paladin falls" threads is probably not what you're looking for. Well, OK, maybe Stephen-the-anti-paladin-designer, but everyone else...)

-TimD


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Protoman wrote:
Stuff from the blog and Chris L. indicating PFS legality
Protoman wrote:


Doesn't say we need the chronicle first to play it, so I'm gonna start playing a vigilante this weekend.

Thanks, [proto]man. :)

I guess I'm just used to only seeing stuff from John & Mike as official notice of things for PFS, must have looked right past it.

-TimD

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