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Instead of simply saying you don't know. Ask the player if the have the reference for said "fluffy item". If they don't suggest they email the local coordinator with their question. If they do have the reference read over it quick, give a "this is my interpretation but you may want to ask Local VO for clarification" comment. Makes for better community relations between GM and players.
It is true that GMs are not required to buy every piece of Paizo paper available, as GMs we are looked at as someone that is able to interpret what is written on the pieces of Paizo paper.
What Jack said.
We cannot, as GMS and coordinators, refuse a player a seat based on the GMs not having the references for the character they are playing. The GM is required to have the core assumption at the table. All other resources needed for a player to play his character is the responsibility of the player to provide should there be a question by the GM.
The GM can always look at the PRD to bone up on the basics of the class; and if he has questions ask the player for the Occult book (or whatever book) reference for the class/feature. If the player cannot provide the reference then the GM can refuse to let that character be played or feature to be used. But as long as the player has the appropriate resources he should be allowed to sit and play
You might contact your local VC/VL/VA to see what is going on in the area that might have racial boons available. Smaller conventions get them, larger gamedays can get them. It's not just all about the larger conventions. But the local people will know better what's available in your area than I would.
Thoughts about not liking crowds:
My sister-wife hates crowds; with a passion beyond belief. She has massive social anxiety and doesn't like new people, let alone crowds of new people. I talked with her about Gencon when she showed a minor interest. Explained how it worked, how the crowds wouldn't be that overwhelming; etc.
She agreed to go, and did just fine (aside from some knee pain from not being able to find her brace). She marshaled so was constantly having new people coming up to her and she was having to interact with them.
Her report was that Gencon "wasn't as bad as she thought it would be" which I'm taking as a win lol.
I understand not liking crowds of people, perhaps getting together with someone local who has been to the convention that can explain what you're going to be facing when walking in may help in getting in there and going for it. It may not (depends on your psyche I would suppose), but it may and that would open up more options for you than just what is available from the core and the guide (have you checked out the additional races available in the guide?
Eh, now that I look over it, we scheduled 36 tables (not sure if all of those fired) for Ropecon this year, inclusive of the 7 tables of Sky Key Solution - which took place a literal week before GenCon, by the way. We always miss out on the juicy new stuff because our big annual event is right before GenCon, so it actually feels really familiar to lose out on this special until next GenCon as well.
I would have your local VC or coordinator talk to the region RVC. I'm not promising anything on behalf of the RVC, but it never hurts to ask; worse they can do is say no, best case exceptions can be made due to area. But you won't know until you ask
Gary Bush wrote:
Another suggestion is to somehow have people able to help new players figure out how the whole chronicle thing works with their characters, especially those casual players who only play at cons.
There is always the giant info booth at the front of the room; I know there was a challenge in having enough HQ and GM volunteers since we couldn't split out time and do both this year; setting aside more volunteers to just sit and wait for someone to come over isn't time/labor efficient
Sin of Asmodeus wrote:
I'll let Bob, Jon, or Todd respond as I don't have the official answer for you.
Sin of Asmodeus wrote:
Generics were held and seated on the hour .. any real tickets that came up after the slot start time (again on the hour) were considered late and were seated with the generic ticket holders.
Mike Bohlmann wrote:
You should have been seated right away as soon as there was a table for you to go to .. sorry that you were mis-informed. The caveat to that being if you had a ticket for scenario Y and were trying to get into scenario Z those we treated as generic tickets.
Lol .. it was a bit nippy .. even with all the people in there .. but for all the years we've complained about it being too hot, this was an improvement-- granted an over-improvement.
We found cloaks which worked down in the vendor hall; but next time we'll have hoodies or something to throw on
One of the things I had started to bring with me was session sheets for everyone to sign, instead of printing the ones at the end of the scenario. These allowed you to do three at a time, instead of just one. Saves so much paper. Unfortunately, I can't do that any more. Recently, whenever I make an event, no session pages are made for me. I thankfully saved one from back in 2015, and I just cross everything out that's not relevant, but I liked having those available. If we change up factions again, I'll be doing a lot more crossing out.
Also, once you have reported the "fake" table, save the pdf copy of the tracker sheet to your desktop or another appropriate folder and then you always have it available to print out and don't have to continually re-download it lol
I tend to have different needs depending on the role
I have a tote box with all my books
My GM stuff fits in a large military pack
my binder of characters
Andrew L Klein wrote:
So if I don't buy all the needes flip maps (for I think 3 scenarios, that'd get expensive), I should bring a blank grid then? Haven't looked to see what maps are used in mine, but my luck not a single flip map will be used in multiple scenarios lol
You'll need to make sure you have all the maps you'll need either hand drawn or flip-map/map-pack format. Don't plan on being able to get into the vendor hall on Thursday to pick up what you don't have; that's generally the worst day lol and the Paizo booth will be uber busy.
JERRY WAYNE 333 wrote:
If you're wierded out at the thought of sharing; then bring a sleeping bag or air mattress. One can request a cot; but with the number of people they may or may not have enough to accommodate everyone and you may be left in the lurch if you don't plan ahead.
In general though; by the time everyone gets to the room to crash for the night -- doing anything funny isn't even a thought as you are exhausted and just want to get your 3 hours of sleep before you get up to hit it for another day
If you buy a slotted ticket, they have the game that you are playing (i.e. 3/1 FrostPaw Captives Tier 15). If you buy generics they are just that you can use them for any event held at Gencon you aren't just limited to PFS events
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I think you'll find a wide variety of acceptance within the larger PFS community. You asked us a question about what we would do. Several people told you they try to tailor their games or their gameplay to those at the table. I don't think a single person has told you that you are wrong in not creating a backstory, or wrong that you prefer the more tactical aspects.
Personally when I first started GMing I really shied away from role play heavy social scenarios to GM because I wasn't good at it. I eventually got over it; but for a long time I much prefer the combat heavy scenarios because I was good at that. We would have gotten a long great then and we would get a long great now because I've grown as a GM and can tailor things better for the overall party make up.
If you want to think that people are telling you that you are wrong then feel free, but no one has told you that you are wrong nor would they or should they in my opinion. People play differently, if we were all the same it would be pretty freaking boring.
The one thing you have to remember going into PFS or any other organized play. The company is the ultimate GM and we are just players in their home game. They have rules for their home game just as any other home GM would have rules. To play at the table you have to abide by the rules. If you feel the rules ruin your gaming experience you have the option of walking away from the table.
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The nature of the public forums (including facebook) is that if you ask an ambiguous question you are going to get more than you bargained for for as an answer.
With that in mind with so many people that play this game and read and respond to posts on these forums (and facebook) you are inevitably going to come up with answers that either you don't like or cause you to question your original point of view.
The best answer any one can give you is going to be from their personal experience and then simply to say that your personal mileage may vary as different GMs have different ways of handling things. No two GMs are going to give you the exact same answer or handle things in the exact same way.
Asking for a black and white answer is going to get you all the grey in the world and never be clear; take what you want from the answers you were given to your question; but in the PFS side of Pathfinder things will vary, in the Pathfinder side of Pathfinder things will vary -- it's the nature of the game
I'm assuming we'll get the scenarios we're supposed to GM added to our downloads for free. When can we expect that to happen? I've got one that's already available, and pretty complicated, so I was hoping to start reading it very early, hopefully within the next week or two.
Generally; in the past, it's happened w/in a couple weeks of the show. That might change this year, but err on the side of caution and assume it won't happen early
Mark Stratton wrote:
This is handy advice for players as well ... especially now that the paper copy requirement has been waived I'm sure we're going to be seeing a lot more players with only electronic character sheets -- but w/out that paper copy they could be in trouble.
hrm ... just cause I was curious .. I was doing some maths ... you might fight it cheaper to drive by the time you figure roughly 3 days on the road (2 nights in hotels); roughly 140 gallons in gas, food and drinks on the road -- and when I did the google search for distance it said flight started at 584 -- that's like an extra 200 you save by flying you can spend in the vendor hall lol
One thing; drinking is HUGE at Gencon -- and I'm sure I'll be contributing my share of the money, however, I do caution to pace yourself -- Doing anything (GMing, HQing etc) at Gencon while still hungover sucks.. I've done it (and like the ones that suggest not GMing ever slot) I don't recommend it lol
Michael Eshleman wrote:
There is still a large core of GMs that do what needs to be done to get the Con to go off -- I remember my early days of conventioning and stepping up to make sure it happened.
Venture Officers can have private home/store games just the same as any other player can have private home/store games. They can also play PFS scenarios during these private events as well.
The problem with this would come in if they were doing the private invite-only games in lieu of public games. As long as they are still supporting public games there should be no problems.
The major reason is that they fixed a lot of things with the Summoner class.
If that is the one that you really want to play the best advice is going to be buy the book; you can get the PDF for not a whole lot of cash.
Without knowing which books you got as there were different levels. The sorcerer is an awesome class and has summoning as well as the wizard.
Correct .. however, I would implore people to remember the GMs that may not be comfortable handling someone elses' electronic item and bring the paper copy anyway
I would appreciate it if people would politely and constructively attack my idea for a one time total wipe of your number. If it is a bad idea, or just too much hassle, I would like to know why.
My personal opinion in the idea of a total wipe is no.
I think it creates a layer of meta game that doesn't need to be there with knowing what happened within the scenario. In addition, as one who has played games after I've GM'd them, it's honestly just not as much fun to play a scenario when you know what's coming; there is no challenge.
Originally (waaaaayyyyy back in the day) you could replay each scenario once per faction -- so 5 times with a different character of a different faction. That, quite honestly, created tons of problems (personally I'm happy to retire the two characters that have cross-over chronicles it was confusing).
The biggest problem with doing this was that by the third time you played a scenario it was hold hat.. you knew what was going to happen, you knew how to prepare your character and the only thing different was the faction mission; which wasn't all the interesting.
I was happy when the replay rules were changed and don't see a reason to change them. My opinion is that, while everyone gives back in their own way to their community, stepping up to GM if you've played 6.5 seasons of scenarios might be a good idea.
James Martin wrote:
No offense intended, but having stars or not having stars isn't an indicator of being a GM :) Just someone who may not have GM'd much.
I'm sure anyone of any experience level will be welcome to join the ranks of Gencon GMs, we all had to start somewhere
But what gives you the right to refuse a player a seat based on their use of the program? I.e. what post or rule are you basing this on. If it's your personal preference than that goes against the spirit PFS in my opinion
And arguing a bad rule based on it being a rule ... is bad form..
I'll echo the previous poster .. I'm done with this discussion, it's pointless
Ok .. so Mike said that physical sheets are required.
No where in that thread does he say that physical sheets are the only legal character sheet.
No where in that thread does he say that you cannot use an electronic character sheet
No where in that thread does he give permission for GMs to refuse a player a seat because they do not have a paper copy
what he does say
Which to me means figure out a way to make it work and let the player know that they need to have a paper copy in the future. To me this does NOT mean that I have the right to refuse the player a seat at the table nor does it give me the right to say that they cannot use their electronic character sheet.
Please provide a link to the source post where you are garnering your interpretation ... that would be helpful
can you provide a link to the reference you are using?
Then it's on the player if they want to take that chance .. knowing that a GM could have issues with it. But that still doesn't mean, to me at least, that we can refuse a player a seat at the table.
Keith Apperson wrote:
In today's electronic world, can we really kick a player from the table for not having a paper copy of his character? My opinion, no, we can encourage them to have it for power reasons, Gm audit, etc. But I don't feel that we as GMs have the right nor will I ever kick a player from my table for not having a paper copy.
Doing so just because there is a a rule that alludes to the face you can isn't right
Keith Apperson wrote:
I've been around since the beginning. I didn't agree with it then, and I don't agree with it now.
While I'll be the first one to say the onus for character proof is on the player .. there are times that it pays to be considerate and work with the player rather than relying on rules that were merely made to quiet the online masses.
Keith Apperson wrote:
Then it's a bad rule ... as it flies in the face of "inclusive" and "don't be a jerk" and needs to be reviewed and revised imo
Michael Hallet wrote:
At that point, if you were on my table, I'd hike my butt up out of my chair .. walk around and leaving the tablet on the table look at the reference.
I am in the camp of not wanting to handle someone else's expensive electronics ... but if there is a way I can avoid the potential of dropping said electronic and still review the reference I'll take it upon myself to do so.
That's my understanding .. and I've never seen it written as a rule anywhere that a GM can refuse a player a spot because they are using an electronic character sheet. At that point, if they loose power ... they can switch to a pregen (at least in my games cause ... well don't be a jerk about it).. and remind the player to have a printed copy in the future
Keith Apperson wrote:
Working with the player -- leaving the tablet on the table and scrolling through it instead of picking it up
Being a jerk -- saying you can't sit at the table because you use Herolab ...