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From what I understood, Weaver had sued his neighbor over a property sale or somesuch. That neighbor then began sending threatening letters to local, state, and federal officials, while signing Weavers name. He came to FBI attention when he contacted them to let them know that any letters that they recieved werent from him. IIRC, of course, I could be way off.

meatrace, just out of curiousity, could you give me an example where you and Napolitano disagree on interpretation? I'm not trolling or anything, just curious.

Thanks for the recommendation -- this sounds really good. Just saw the Randy Quaid re-enactment of the Siege at Ruby Ridge and have mixed feelings about the whole scenario. I mean, yeah, the guy was no good... but at the same time, is it totally unreasonable to expect the "investigators" to refrain from acting as a hunter-killer extermination squad?

Just finished: Overall pretty good book. Id say it was about 45% anecdotes involving law enforcement breaking the law in order to enforce the law, 45% post 9-11 abuses, 5% a breaking down the Constitution in plain English, and 5% Eminent Domain abuses.

Regarding Ruby Ridge: Its pretty amazing how much of the accusations against Randy Weaver were complete fabrications. (note: the book doesnt go into this, just the specific lawless actions of the officers during the siege.) You know the name of that movie, as it sounds like something I would watch?

So who was unlawfully restraining Elian? Thats what you are missing. As far as the 11th circuit court of appeals, your link backs my version up.

-No date cited- protective rights given to Lazaro
-April 13, 2000- Protective rights revoked
-April 19, 2000-11th circuit court issues enjunction, telling the INS that Elian is not to be moved outside of US jurisdiction (ie the Cuban Embassy where Juan Miguel was staying)until it further reviews the case.
-April 23, 2000- Going against the courts order, Janet Reno orders Elians kidnapping
-June 1st, 2000-Thw 11th circuit actually rules with Juan Miguel. If Janet Reno had waited till this date(but see below), she would have been in accordance with the law, but she did not.

As an example, If you are suing someone over possession of a tv, even if you know that you are going to win, you do not have the right to break into someones house and take the tv before the court says you win.

Interesting little factoid about the search warrant: The INS waited until 7 pm on Good Friday, after the regular (presumably less INS-friendly) judge left, so they could get a rubber stamped warrant from a magistrate who was unfamiliar with the case and was notoriously pro government in his rulings. The weapons thing was completely fabricated (a hallmark of Reno's tenure). The INS agent who signed the affadavit presented to the magistrate made ZERO mention of any weapons or threats of violence, just that Elian was to be arrested because he was an illegal alien (never mind that the precedent was for the INS to not arrest Cubans unless they committed a crime, consistent with the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966) and that he was being (serious air quotes here)"unlawfully restrained". ZERO mention of violence or weapons. However also omitted was that Aaron Podhurst, a lawyer from Miami (and coincidently, a long time friend of Reno) was mediating negotions between Lazaro, Juan Miguel, and the Government, even as the affadavit was filed! If Reno would have waited till then, she would have been in the clear, but she didnt.

There was no reason, whatsoever, to use tear gas, guns, and violence. (What exactly did the NBC camera man do again to deserve the assault?)Yet they did, the message for Lazaro Gonzales was the same message that Reno had for the Branch Davidians: "We are going to show them that we control (the compound) and they are impotent."

Sissyl wrote:

Well, sounds to me like we should all be grateful it's happening in a state that's easy to wall off, if need be.

It would also be a good premise for a zombie RPG setting...

Zombies and Oxygen Tanks Join forces with geriatric snowbirds and Cuban immigrants as they fend off flesh eating rednecks from the Everglades!!!

Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

copied from another thread:

n all seriousness, the article about Afghanistan made me cry.

I would have posted them in Comrade Anklebiter's Fun-Timey Revolutionary Socialism Thread, but that thread has lately been taken over by Libertarians and declared a "fake politroll" thread.

F*#&ing Libertarians

I sincerely wish to apologize. Not so much for the libertarians taking over your thread (youre popular with us plutocrats!), but for declaring this a "fake politroll" thread. I should have been more specific, but in my quitting-smoking rage-fueled haze, I wasnt. Only the part where I was declaring myself to be your self appointed campaign manager was meant to be the politrolly part. If I actually offended you, I apoligise many times.

Thank you for you consideration,
TheWhiteKnife, esq.
Campaign manager for "Goblins do it in the street" PAC

Edit to above: Rereading to make sure I got it right: The judge does not chide Reno over the Ruby Ridge siege/cover-up. It was FBI director Louis Freeh.

Regarding Ruby Ridge, the only blame given to Janet Reno was the cover-up part. (IIRC, she wasnt even AG when the siege happened.) When your superior gives you an illegal order (shoot any armed adult male) and you ignore that order to perform an even more illegal order (shoot unarmed woman holding babies) you deserve to be punished. The Reno office made sure that neither supervisor or shooter were punished.

Regarding Elian, I dont know where you get your information, but from what I can tell, you have it backwards. The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals enjoined the Federal Government from moving Elian outside the jurisdiction of US courts. When Reno ordered Elians removal from his great-uncles home, it was in direct violation of the courts order, aka kidnapping.
And that doesnt even mention how they tried to keep it secret. The first agent to enter the home kicked and maced an NBC cameraman, to be sure that no video footage would be taken. Luckily AP photographer Albert Diaz hid in the bedroom and captured the iconic image of an INS officer pointing a submachine gun at the chest of a scared 6 year old boy.
Furthermore, the warrant that was used as the pretext for the kidnapping was a charade. The warrant specified that the officers were only there for the retrieval of evidence. It takes quite a semantic slight of hand to equate evidence with a child. Add to that the fact that warrants are only to be issued when evidence of a crime or contraband is being hidden, whereas Elian was often present, for the entire world to see, in Lazaro Gonzales front yard. The absurdity continues when you consider the fact that it was the INS themselves that designated Lazaro to be Elian's guardian and had placed the boy in his care!!

More Fla craziness

My guess is that it's less like a T-virus or the asteroid fallout of the Romero movies and more like the rage virus from 28 days later.

Yup, definitely the Zombie Apocalypse.

Then you've never read any of his books

I think the Judge's biggest targets are A) John Ashcroft and B) Janet Reno.

Edit- I highly recommend his book "Constitutional Chaos". The entire first half is about police abuses and Janet Reno's mishaps (Waco/Her Child abuse crusades while AG in Florida/Ruby Ridge cover-up/ Elian Gonzales), while the second half is dealing solely with the legal abuses of the war on terror during the Bush presidency. (so far, about 3/4 of the way through it.)

Nothing says "Constitutional Republic" quite like secret kill lists

Edit- Napolitano's rubuttal to above.

Thats twice now in a month that Ive lauded kudos upon our federal judges. (this and the NDAA injunction.) WTH is going on?!?

I gotta hurry on over to Government Folly to get my head back on straight.

Shadowborn wrote:

Florida: America's insane wang.

Fixt.

Well done, good sir. Well done.

bumpity bump

Its a start. Looks like the NYPD is going to find a use for that hefty donation from Wall St.

..or "How I learned how to stop worrying and love the zombie apocalypse."

Congratulations!!!

L7: Pretend that we're dead

followed by

Dynamite Hack: The boys in the hood

followed by

Turning off the computer to fire up some modern warfare 3.

If ever there was a fantasy RPG league (like fantasy football), Turin would be my #1 draft pick for DM.

There was one in Gehenna, many in the Abyss, that I can recall. None in Hell off the top of my head though.

currently listening to mc5.

Kick out the Jams, MuthaF@#*!r

Also, I was loved madballs.

And Garbage Pail Kids. (Not really a toy, but whatevah, it was my childhood.)

Yes, he was pretty awesome. I lost track a long time ago--is he still writing or playing?

How many kids do you have and how old are they?

They reunited for a few baltimore area shows in 2010, IIRC.

1 daughter who is 5 and hates to sleep.

TheWhiteknife wrote:

AND the one closest to making the cut into the top 5:

Boris the Sprinkler

Ooh! Blast from my past!

This, of course, is one of my theme songs.

I was gonna put that one, but my daughter was in the room when I was making this. I love the Rev. Norb.

In no particular order:

Against Me!
The Misfits (any incarnation except the current only Jerry Only one)
Bouncing Souls
Type O Negative
SLAYER

Obviously it depends on my mood which is my favorite at the time.

Honorable mentions
Iron Maiden (Di'anno, Dickinson,or Bayley. Doesnt matter.)
Johnny Cash (video by the Highwaymen, technically)
pre-load Metallica
Amon Amarth
The Descendents
In flames
Bad Religion
Tiger Army
Spineshank
Dropkick Murphys
Rage against the Machine
AND the one closest to making the cut into the top 5:

Boris the Sprinkler

Yes, Please do tell.

Also, because of this thread I had to order from my favorite chines restaurant, Main Moon, for lunch today. Kung Pao Shrimp, Yum!!

yes. Its in Huntington, about 25 minutes away.

Unfortunately, it was voted down this morning

Hollidaysburg (by Altoona-State College)

Hahaha I get it ;)

That is no fair, Comrade. I only associated myself with illegal kickbacks, and everyone knows that I am a dire corby, not a goblin.

Or "all our enemies die in fire while we laugh".

I like that one. Its very Amon Amarth-y.

Edit- I would seriously vote for someone with this slogan.

Sweet Dude. Troll away. Seems we gathered some folks over here from our talking politics ... how did they know to come on over?

Wait who are we voting for and who are we not voting for now? I thought Comrade Anklebiter was going to be president and then I get a Kommissar position and a bunch of phatt LOOT.

Only if we win the election. So I suggest you start working on slogans. Here are 2 to get you started:

"Tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils? This year vote goblin, the greater evil! ------message paid for by the Friends of the WPABGTDG Association."

or

(on a button that features me doing a pouty-face)
"You wouldnt want to take away my illegal kickbacks, would you, mister?"

Edit- thought of some more

"Voting is for ninnies! Now get out and vote for me!"
"Doodlebug Anklebiter- better than Tom Wopat"
"Doodlebug Anklebiter - has his own theme music"

Here in PA, we call that "butcher shops" ;p

Plus, I have a personal mission to mention Tom Wopat as many times as possible.

All the "I'm Gonna Get You, Sucka" talk had me in a silly mood.

I'm high on life.

And drugs.

But seriously, Im just trying to do my best to keep this as a fake poli-troll thread.

I think.

Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

(Well, maybe Kirth and Gark, I don't know. Gark, if you're reading this: don't vote for Obama. Kirth: I'm not going to tell you what to do.)

This might be one of the elections I sit out, which forces the candidates to say "Holy crap, we pissed off Kirth enough for him to openly shun us! We better get our act together!" Because, really, Obama = Dubya = Romney, with no meaningful differences that I can detect.

I am disappointed that you would so openly shun the Worker's Party for the Advancement of Both Goblinkind and TheWhiteknife's Desire for Graft. (WPABGTDG for short)

It may be true that Obama=Dubya=Romney, BUT

Doodlebug Anklebiter > Tom Wopat > A three legged bobcat > cotton, the fabric of our lives.

I hope this clears things up for you.

I need to watch this again. Its been too long.

Does this mean we all get one rib?!? And we get to pour soda in our hands? I'm in too!

Urizen wrote:

I need my vision checked. I thought you had said Hentai toys.

<wipes brow> That was a close one.

Umm, ever heard of the Hello Kitty 'neck' massager?

Hahhahahaha I had to buy my girlfriend this. Its a piece of crap. Of course we werent using it for its intended purpose.

I live in Hello Kitty Hell.

Because that sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me.

If, with my advice (and backroom dealing/extortion/leg-breaking/etc.), you get elected, does that mean that I will no longer be a stooge of the plutocracy (TM), but the actual plutocracy?

The Mad Badger,
To reward you for your struggle in our righteous quest to get Doodlebug elected, I would like to extend to you an offer to serve as Minister of Leaving People Alone.

And a friendly reminder to keep at least 15' between yourself, Comrade Anklebiter, and any cabinets. Also, if you see our leader grabbing a shovel, for gods sake, man, run.

Comrade,

I cant believe I used Czar as a formal title. That sucks on my part.

Bah. Everyone knows that capitalism is a libertarian ploy. We want to take over everything and then leave people alone.

Another good report coming from the federal courts

It's a little premature (its only a preliminary injunction), but I'm happy about this. Unfortunately, now we get to sit back and watch the DOJ spend a bunch of taxpayer money fighting it.

TheWhiteknife wrote:

IMO, if the Republican party wants to keep pressing neocon after neocon as their nominees, they deserve to lose every election they run for.

You heard it here first folks, TheWhiteKnife endorses Barack Obama for president!

;)

If you were here right now, I'd throw something at you. 8p

I agree with theJeff, tho. We definitely do need a (sane) opposition party (or 2 or 3!). I am conservative, in the sense that I believe in actually conserving things like money or civil liberties. There is very very little that is conservative about most of today's elected republican party.

No Animal may drink alcohol

in excess

without me.

Kryzbyn wrote:

If you think all conservatives or 'right wingers' are on board with DOMA, you're mistaken.

The vast majority of those running for office are. And they are the ones who actually decide what the laws are.

So that kinda matters.

This, I agree with. Dont get me wrong, I think there are a few more pressing matters....ie assassinations, wars, and indefinite detentions and such. IMO, if the Republican party wants to keep pressing neocon after neocon as their nominees, they deserve to lose every election they run for.

Someone in some thread mentioned the difference between actual conservatives and the tripe that the republican party has been putting out over the last 3-4 decades. I, for one, would like to see a return to actual conservatism.

Hey hey, Then youre probably going to want to get in my cabinet then, The Mad Badger. That pretty much sums up my political leanings.

You can be my Czar of Role-playing, Board, and Video Games.

Those biscuits at Red Lobster
Hot apple pie ala mode
Hot Italian sausage
potato pancakes
pierogies, preferably with lots of butter and fried onions
tomato sandwiches
fried morel mushrooms!!
coldpack (pressure cooked venision)!!
apples
yeungling and guiness
steak, preferably cooked on the grill- by me