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Tell me James if I am portraying Pharasma incorrectly in my home games. In my home games Pharasma is the goddess of the life cycle to most folks. She is the balance of the life cycle. She is just as much the goddess of Birth as of death. Certain cultures may emphasize one aspect over another but she isn't just a goddess of death.


Thank you Sharaya. You're awesome :)


And if this order ships before it can be amended. Please ship my Adventure Path #92 ASAP. I need my fix :)


Thanks for the insight Lissa. The only thing I ever care about is if someone is an a--hole or if someone is a bigot. I can't associate with those type of folks. Everyone else to me are just people. I hope this makes him feel much better to know we will never be bothered by it.


Everything seems in order except my Adventure Path #92 is missing from the email.


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So one of my new friends here in the UK, just came out as trans to my husband and I. He was super stoked to learn that it doesn't bother Hubby and I at all. I just feel bad that he felt it would be an issue in the first place :( I really hope I don't give off that vibe.


LazarX wrote:
The Minis Maniac wrote:
LazarX wrote:
You pretty much would have to get rid of Destiny and everything else that came from it. Clockwork will get you to some distance, but not city sized starships.
I was actually thinking of converting that to a more spelljammer like society. Basically the ships are large masted schooner like ships with a glass dome and da vinci like flying fins on their sides propelled by magic. As for Unity using this kind of analogue I am sure I can come up with something suitable to replace it using this idea.
At that point, your change is drastic enough that you might as well get rid of Numeria and start from scratch.

Thanks for the suggestion but I much rather the conversion idea :)

I think I can change enough to make it more palatable to those who are more distasteful of sci fi in fantasy.


LazarX wrote:
You pretty much would have to get rid of Destiny and everything else that came from it. Clockwork will get you to some distance, but not city sized starships.

I was actually thinking of converting that to a more spelljammer like society. Basically the ships are large masted schooner like ships with a glass dome and da vinci like flying fins on their sides propelled by magic. As for Unity using this kind of analogue I am sure I can come up with something suitable to replace it using this idea.


**Disclaimer** This is not a thread to debate this preference. This is a how too thread. So I respect your preference to not agree but this isn't the place to voice it.

So with that over with, I was planning on eliminating all the sci fi elements out of Golarion by playing up the clockwork angle. Add a bit of steam powered clockwork robots (very rare). I plan on turning androids into clockwork people with porcelain like facades. Play up Brigh in her more gearworks aspect. Eliminate all laser guns to primitive firearms level just like other areas of Golarion. Anyone have any other cool tips to add to this?


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Thanks for the support folks. I don't expect much to change between me parents and me. But I do think I gave them time to think. In the end however they would have to own up to some wrong doing, and I just don't see that in them. My mother is always full of excuses to pass off things like this. And my father is so bullheaded he is unlikely to change his views. I feel comfortable and happy for the first real time of my life and it only moving away from North America and never hoping to return. Having an ocean between me and my problems seems to have finally given me breathing room.


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So i think I finally got through to my mother and father. It took a lot but I apologize I need to rant.

I asked her to just take away her preconceptions about my homosexuality (fundamentalist christian).
I asked her to think what if I grew up knowing I was gay. What if I grew up and and only had the input that I was going to hell, for something no matter how hard and how earnestly I prayed wouldn't go away. On top of that I couldn't dare let anyone in my life know. My family was all fundamentalist redneck christians. My friends were all fundamentalist christians. My community was mostly so in a rural farming area. So should anyone find out they wouldn't help me. The best i could hope for is to be disowned, shunned, and thrown out of the house.

Now lets pile on the fact I was bullied at school for being super quiet and not one of the normal boisterous guys. I played sports, I worked on the farm. But i wasn't one of the guys. I didn't belong. School was hell, home wasn't any better.

At home my step father I was emotionally and physically abused by my step father. My mother who for years protected the man finally stopped doing so. (he has passed away in 2003) As hard as I try I can't remember one positive word that man ever said to me. The best i could hope for from him was to be ignored. Because if I wasn't ignored I was insulted, yelled at hit, and punished. That was the extent of our relationship. I finally stopped her defence of him. She always maintained that he was majorly abused as a child and that he did care for us. I broke and yelled that even if that was the case he is an adult, I was a child. He had no right to abuse me. At his age he was responsible for his own actions and she should have stepped in. If any government employee found out my brother and I would have been removed.

I asked her if all that was true does my life long struggle with anxiety make sense? If it was all true does my desire to get away and never come back to that place make sense? If it was all true does it make sense why I haven't visited home in the past 10 years make sense?

As for my father he pretended he was father of the year material, and I put him in his place. He knew all the abuse was happening and did nothing about it. He is just a guilty as my mother.
The conversations ended on a very different note than ever before. My mother seemed almost depressed. And my father was silent for the first time I can remember. I hope they can begin to understand.


I remember the days of that dragon head popping into threads. Always awesome. I remember when he left as well. I was sad to see him go. RIP Mike. And condolences to all your family and friends.


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Crystal Frasier wrote:
I have to admit: I have not felt comfortable about posting in this thread in a long time.

I'm sorry to hear that Crystal. I have always found your posts quite educational.


I like the idea of the raptor having a cool colored display crest and or colored streak. Maybe not brown either. I'd think off white with maybe specks.


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Erik Mona wrote:

So noted on the dinosaur colors. That's an excellent point.

Remember, birds did evolve from dinosaurs. Birds use feathers for a couple reasons. One is insulation, the other is display. It may not have to be a complete color change most birds only have a few feathers that form patterns that they use for mating display. So a splash of color would go a long way.

Edit: Also Deinonychus is often thought of as a pack stealth hunter. So it's coloration would likely be more inline with it's habitat along with it's display pattern. ( I will also emphasize MOST bird display patterns aren't nearly as colorful or bright as a macaw, Tucan, or colorful paradise birds).


So Erik when are we going to get more huge minis? It's honestly the biggest gap in miniatures to date. I know you guys could figure it out.


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I see a bit of apprehension and awkwardness here and there about the transgender community. So I hope that my personal guidelines can help some folks and aren't taken offensively by anyone. I have befriended, worked, served, and been in community events with Transgender folks the past 10 years. Being part of the LGBT community has helped me a few guidelines.
1) Doesn't matter what a person looks like, dresses like, or is. They are a person, and deserve to be treated respectfully. Your personal internal comfort is irrelevant.
2) You don't need to know, guess, or ask about someones born biological gender. It isn't relevant, it isn't your business.
3) The gender that is presented is the gender they are, unless otherwise told.
4) Their struggle is not the same as your struggle. You may both face some similar discrimination occasionally. But their internal struggle and external struggle are very unique. The best thing you can do is be supportive and be there.


Today is one of those days that has really gotten me down. I just feel after fighting (again) with my mother over trivial crap that if I had a choice I wouldn't be the gay man I am. I am so sick of being yelled at by both my parents. I'm sick of the blind hatred of my step-father. I'm sick of all the hateful comments I see on any political news site I go to. Or even online movie reviews of all things. I'm sick of the awkwardness that inevitably happens when ever I meet someone new and they find out I'm gay. I'm sick of all the people who want denounce my marriage to my husband or think it's their business to comment on it. I just really tired of it all today. These days really suck.


Unfortunately until finances pick up I need to make a sacrifice. But i will pick it up again in the future.


Many believe the attacks that started yesterday are related to the ISIS threat against Canada. None of that has been confirmed. So far:
2 Soldiers run down by man in truck in truck in Quebec
Shots fired on Parliament hill, while parliament was in session and the Prime Minister was present

It's so sad to see this happening in my home country :(


1)After your unfortunate consumption by black fire and transportation to Pazuzus realm, how are you fairing?
2) How was Pazuzus Realm?
3) Did you get away with Eyes, tongue, and other soft tissue bird pecking areas intact?
4)Now that we have a Pazuzu miniature can you on my behalf pester Erik until we get a gargantuan Dagon miniature?


Crystal Frasier wrote:
The Minis Maniac wrote:

So can someone please for my reference enlighten me. I have full support and sympathy for trans folks. But i would like to here some of things you folks have had to deal with in the gaming community. Especially everyday stuff.

I can start with my experience as a non effeminate gay male. It becomes very awkward with a new gaming group and even just day to day life. No one expects me to be gay. They don't see any of the stereotypical signs. And because of very prevalent heterosexism, I find I have to come out of the closet a lot. As a matter of course while at work, if it comes up I say I have a "spouse". I do this because I find work a mostly inappropriate place to discuss my personal life, and I try to never do it outside of breaks or with customers. But with every new employee, and eventually regular customers, I have to come out again. They refer to my wife "my wedding ring is visible" and I have to correct them. And it always seems super awkward, but never hostile. But I just wish the awkwardness would go away.....
That is my struggle in every day life and in Gaming circles. Anyone else wish to continue and get it off their chest?

It depends on whether or not I'm read as a trans woman. Back before hormone therapy, when I had trouble passing, I had to deal with stares and exclusion from a lot of public games, and endured a lot of giggles and angry glares at the game store (this was back in the south). It was stressful enough that I only gamed with my friends; I wouldn't do store games (or wouldn't come back to them) or cons.

Once I started hormones, people just took me for a tall cis woman, and while I've had to deal with plain-old-misogyny, the most frustrating thing I have to deal with are people I game with or otherwise like making crappy trans jokes right in front of me, not knowing I was the kind of person they were tell horrible jokes about. It makes it hard to like gaming with someone after they do that. If it gets bad, depending on whether I feel...

Thanks for the insight Crystal. And thank you to Artemis as well.


So can someone please for my reference enlighten me. I have full support and sympathy for trans folks. But i would like to here some of things you folks have had to deal with in the gaming community. Especially everyday stuff.
I can start with my experience as a non effeminate gay male. It becomes very awkward with a new gaming group and even just day to day life. No one expects me to be gay. They don't see any of the stereotypical signs. And because of very prevalent heterosexism, I find I have to come out of the closet a lot. As a matter of course while at work, if it comes up I say I have a "spouse". I do this because I find work a mostly inappropriate place to discuss my personal life, and I try to never do it outside of breaks or with customers. But with every new employee, and eventually regular customers, I have to come out again. They refer to my wife "my wedding ring is visible" and I have to correct them. And it always seems super awkward, but never hostile. But I just wish the awkwardness would go away.....
That is my struggle in every day life and in Gaming circles. Anyone else wish to continue and get it off their chest?


The Minis Maniac wrote:
PIXIE DUST wrote:

For all intents and purposes it is involved with politics. So long as the company ITSELF does not discriminate, I truly don't care. People can have whatever opinion they want. It is not my place to force people to accept my views or my opinions.

For instance, by all technicality, homosexuality is a biological aberration that came about from humanity's higher thought. Sex, at its most basic root, is meant for nothing more than genetic reshuffling and furthering the species. All other side effects (closer bonds and all that jazz) came about as a means to further cement a mate to increase probability of a successful pairing and full maturation of the child. Homosexuals, by their very nature, are not capable of reproducing without outside aid, thereby making any sort of sexual relationship, pointless. And remember, homosexuals should not be confused with PANSEXUALS (who truly do not care about gender and are instead focused almost exclusively on personality and emotional matches).

Despite this, I am a bisexual. I am just fully willing to accept it.

I very much disagree with the statement on your belief of the origins of homosexuality. In fact homosexuality is found in many animals considered not to have higher thought. In fact I can tell you that we have found homosexuality in over 1500 species. Ranging from gut worms to primates. In 500 of of those species it is actually quite well documented and observed. In fact I know the main researcher who studied the lesbian Albatross phenomenon personally, through my husband who works for the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds. And to show I don't just posit such things without evidence, I will even link where you can read more on the subject. I know Professor Bruce Bagimihl personally, he is a great mind, and a personable fellow his book should answer your questions quite easily.

Biological Exuberance

I also see you overlooked my post. On top of that of the idea you think that homosexuality could be a choice. Which no scientific expert (In the human sexuality field) supports. There is a scientific theory out there called the KIn gene theory which demonstrates how homosexuality is likely not an aberration or a mistake.


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PIXIE DUST wrote:

For all intents and purposes it is involved with politics. So long as the company ITSELF does not discriminate, I truly don't care. People can have whatever opinion they want. It is not my place to force people to accept my views or my opinions.

For instance, by all technicality, homosexuality is a biological aberration that came about from humanity's higher thought. Sex, at its most basic root, is meant for nothing more than genetic reshuffling and furthering the species. All other side effects (closer bonds and all that jazz) came about as a means to further cement a mate to increase probability of a successful pairing and full maturation of the child. Homosexuals, by their very nature, are not capable of reproducing without outside aid, thereby making any sort of sexual relationship, pointless. And remember, homosexuals should not be confused with PANSEXUALS (who truly do not care about gender and are instead focused almost exclusively on personality and emotional matches).

Despite this, I am a bisexual. I am just fully willing to accept it.

I very much disagree with the statement on your belief of the origins of homosexuality. In fact homosexuality is found in many animals considered not to have higher thought. In fact I can tell you that we have found homosexuality in over 1500 species. Ranging from gut worms to primates. In 500 of of those species it is actually quite well documented and observed. In fact I know the main researcher who studied the lesbian Albatross phenomenon personally, through my husband who works for the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds. And to show I don't just posit such things without evidence, I will even link where you can read more on the subject. I know Professor Bruce Bagimihl personally, he is a great mind, and a personable fellow his book should answer your questions quite easily.

Biological Exuberance


Freehold DM wrote:
Kittyburger wrote:
Drejk wrote:

Too much gender and sexuality issues awareness...

I watched combat in one of new Mortal Kombat games with someone playing Sonya... After the end of the fight her outfit got magically shredded (it seemed ok until the very end) revealing underboobs. Which also seemed to be larger than during the fight...

While I like seeing not fully clothed women, it looked ridiculous and unnecessary...

Now, I dislike the Mortal Kombat series for many reasons, its contemptuous treatment of women among them, but there's actually a reasonable explanation for that - most women when engaging in physical activity that they knew about ahead of time wear an athletic bra in lieu of the regular kind. Athletic bras tend to squish and minimize breasts, so if the bra got shredded for any particular reason, instant rather larger underboob would result. Of course given that this is Mortal Kombat, Sonya is probably rather more worried about the instant disembowelment to follow...

It's still disgusting for any number of reasons, but certainly not outside the world of possibility.

...But I like Mortal Kombat(though I sure as hell ain't taking it even remotely seriously)...

Just saying it should be fair. If we have Sonya with underboob, is there any reason why we couldn't have this guy?


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Crystal Frasier wrote:
Tirisfal wrote:
I'm not offended if anyone chooses to eat there despite that though; I understand that WalMart causes trouble, too, but I still shop there 'cause it's there.
Yeah, offended is the wrong word. I'm contemptuous.

I agree with this. as a gay married man myself, I doubt i would eat or patron someplace I know doesn't like me for something I had no control over. I am all for having boundaries and try to be as moderate as possible. But if someone is running a company and donates money to anti-gay charity I don't think I want to give them my money to help donate with.


So I actually found myself having to explain how to deal with a transgendered person at work. I felt so upset that i had to explain common courtesy. This individual had obviously just started to transition. And I had to tell my co worker to for politeness sake refer to the person as the gender they are transitioning to and not stare. In this case male to female. In the end I had to approach this lady myself. I called her ma am. It went very well and I helped her out with what she needed. I feel bad though that this was not common sense.


James can someone add animal bones into a humanoid skeleton and still animate via animate dead?


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Thanks for all the Birthday Wishes.


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Hey guys long time no post. :)
Since last I posted, I had a nice move here to the UK. Living in central Bedfordshire. The place is lovely. I managed to get into London twice to see some of the sights and sounds of the great city. Made trips into Cambridge (beautiful old University, and wonderful old downtown area). Even ate at the pub where Watson and Crick discussed the structure of DNA (yes I am a big nerd). Made many trips into the local city of Bedford. And now prepping for my big trip to Paris in January. Planning on seeing the Louvre, The Arc de Triumphe, Eiffel Tower, Palce of Versaille, the Paris Natural history museum, Notre Dame Cathedral, and catch a show or 2. Then off to Vienna and Prague in the fall of 2015. I hope everyone is doing well and I am sorry for not keeping up as I should.


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I'm sorry Chris has to read a lot of awfulness and negativity. Especially since she seems very nice.


James Jacobs wrote:
The Minis Maniac wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
The Minis Maniac wrote:

James, I am really looking forward to the Giantslayer AP. In fact I have created my own race of monsters for the AP I hope to insert into encounters there. But here is where we get into the tricky situation. I created a 10(RP) NPC humanoid npc race called the giantkin (inspired by ogrekin). I split the Giantkin into 4 distinct types Tethyn (Ice giant kin), Gorn (Hill giant Kin), Braunn (Fire Giant Kin), Kolan (Stone Giant Kin). Giant kin are tribal generally loosely allied with giant tribes often a meritocracy led by a half giant. Giant kin are minimum 3 quarters Human (except for the Braunn who look like they come from dwarves) and a quarter giant blood.

The problem came from the fact a friend reviewed these NPCs creations and wants to play one during the Giantslayer AP. And I am unsure if that would be appropriate where it has been stated the giants are the enemy. Is there a way you can think where I can get solve this situation without saying outright NO?
There's been plenty of adventures where humans are the primary enemy, and it's still okay to play humans. By that reasoning, not all giants or giantkin would need to be allied with all monster giants. Just make the giantkin PC a good alignment and that should solve the problem right there.
I suppose that makes sense. I always thought them more a as "monster" . But these creatures look mostly human anyway just unusually tall with a few distinguishing features. And adventurers by definition are different from the norm.Also do you think I should produce more giantkin varieties? I didn't want to do it with the huge + giant varieties as their as they are too powerful. Is there any Golarion specific giants that could be good candidates to have giantkin offspring? Or any Giants appropriate to that region that could be giantkin material?
Well... if you're the GM, you get to make those decisions. I wouldn't allow Large PCs or part-giant PCs in any game I...

O Giant Kin are still medium humanoids. They just range between 6'5" to 7'5". They're freakishly tall but not that tall.


James Jacobs wrote:
The Minis Maniac wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
The Minis Maniac wrote:

James, I am really looking forward to the Giantslayer AP. In fact I have created my own race of monsters for the AP I hope to insert into encounters there. But here is where we get into the tricky situation. I created a 10(RP) NPC humanoid npc race called the giantkin (inspired by ogrekin). I split the Giantkin into 4 distinct types Tethyn (Ice giant kin), Gorn (Hill giant Kin), Braunn (Fire Giant Kin), Kolan (Stone Giant Kin). Giant kin are tribal generally loosely allied with giant tribes often a meritocracy led by a half giant. Giant kin are minimum 3 quarters Human (except for the Braunn who look like they come from dwarves) and a quarter giant blood.

The problem came from the fact a friend reviewed these NPCs creations and wants to play one during the Giantslayer AP. And I am unsure if that would be appropriate where it has been stated the giants are the enemy. Is there a way you can think where I can get solve this situation without saying outright NO?
There's been plenty of adventures where humans are the primary enemy, and it's still okay to play humans. By that reasoning, not all giants or giantkin would need to be allied with all monster giants. Just make the giantkin PC a good alignment and that should solve the problem right there.
I suppose that makes sense. I always thought them more a as "monster" . But these creatures look mostly human anyway just unusually tall with a few distinguishing features. And adventurers by definition are different from the norm.Also do you think I should produce more giantkin varieties? I didn't want to do it with the huge + giant varieties as their as they are too powerful. Is there any Golarion specific giants that could be good candidates to have giantkin offspring? Or any Giants appropriate to that region that could be giantkin material?
Well... if you're the GM, you get to make those decisions. I wouldn't allow Large PCs or part-giant PCs in any game I...

O Giant Kin are still medium humanoids. They just range between 6'5" to 7'5". They're freakishly tall but not that tall.


James Jacobs wrote:
The Minis Maniac wrote:

James, I am really looking forward to the Giantslayer AP. In fact I have created my own race of monsters for the AP I hope to insert into encounters there. But here is where we get into the tricky situation. I created a 10(RP) NPC humanoid npc race called the giantkin (inspired by ogrekin). I split the Giantkin into 4 distinct types Tethyn (Ice giant kin), Gorn (Hill giant Kin), Braunn (Fire Giant Kin), Kolan (Stone Giant Kin). Giant kin are tribal generally loosely allied with giant tribes often a meritocracy led by a half giant. Giant kin are minimum 3 quarters Human (except for the Braunn who look like they come from dwarves) and a quarter giant blood.

The problem came from the fact a friend reviewed these NPCs creations and wants to play one during the Giantslayer AP. And I am unsure if that would be appropriate where it has been stated the giants are the enemy. Is there a way you can think where I can get solve this situation without saying outright NO?
There's been plenty of adventures where humans are the primary enemy, and it's still okay to play humans. By that reasoning, not all giants or giantkin would need to be allied with all monster giants. Just make the giantkin PC a good alignment and that should solve the problem right there.

I suppose that makes sense. I always thought them more a as "monster" . But these creatures look mostly human anyway just unusually tall with a few distinguishing features. And adventurers by definition are different from the norm.Also do you think I should produce more giantkin varieties? I didn't want to do it with the huge + giant varieties as their as they are too powerful. Is there any Golarion specific giants that could be good candidates to have giantkin offspring? Or any Giants appropriate to that region that could be giantkin material?


James, I am really looking forward to the Giantslayer AP. In fact I have created my own race of monsters for the AP I hope to insert into encounters there. But here is where we get into the tricky situation. I created a 10(RP) NPC humanoid npc race called the giantkin (inspired by ogrekin). I split the Giantkin into 4 distinct types Tethyn (Ice giant kin), Gorn (Hill giant Kin), Braunn (Fire Giant Kin), Kolan (Stone Giant Kin). Giant kin are tribal generally loosely allied with giant tribes often a meritocracy led by a half giant. Giant kin are minimum 3 quarters Human (except for the Braunn who look like they come from dwarves) and a quarter giant blood.
The problem came from the fact a friend reviewed these NPCs creations and wants to play one during the Giantslayer AP. And I am unsure if that would be appropriate where it has been stated the giants are the enemy. Is there a way you can think where I can get solve this situation without saying outright NO?


I'm just kidding. I see you everywhere championing Galt, i thought I would tease you a bit.


Anything!!!! Except Galt that sounds horrible :P


When to play a gnome?
Never


Erik Mona wrote:
The Minis Maniac wrote:

Way to go Erik!!! More domestic animals!!! Very good for hungry monster and farm encounters. More things we need.

1) Mounts (riderless and with rider)(Different horses light and heavy, camels riding dog)- They are always around on random encounters especially during travel.
2) Carts and caravan wagons- Used often enough by npc and pcs.
3) More commoners. Barkeep, blacksmith, shopkeeper, farmers, regular folks- Any combat happening out in an urban center, there will be folks in the way and around.

Frankly if you make these, you'll do well. Especially if your focus is miniatures for roleplay purpose. I hope you like the suggestions.

Lots of this stuff is coming.

Awesome Erik. I look forward to it!!!


Way to go Erik!!! More domestic animals!!! Very good for hungry monster and farm encounters. More things we need.
1) Mounts (riderless and with rider)(Different horses light and heavy, camels riding dog)- They are always around on random encounters especially during travel.
2) Carts and caravan wagons- Used often enough by npc and pcs.
3) More commoners. Barkeep, blacksmith, shopkeeper, farmers, regular folks- Any combat happening out in an urban center, there will be folks in the way and around.

Frankly if you make these, you'll do well. Especially if your focus is miniatures for roleplay purpose. I hope you like the suggestions.


No worries Sharaya. It actually isn't paizos fault that there was a lack of previews on that product. It was actually the product licensers fault.


I realized I want to know what the miniatures involved will be first. Unlike paizo there has been very little previews involving the product in question.


James has one of the great old ones been awakened ?


Hey James I will apologize for the length of this post. But some questions will be asked in it that will greatly help me make an awesome grand investigation based Adventure Path for my home game.
I was recently challenged by friends to craft a Golarion based investigation based AP on the greatest mystery of the Golarion setting. The death of Aroden. Now don't worry I will not ask you how it happened just ask if you have an idea for a gap in my knowledge based on Golarion lore.

The AP starts out with the premise that all players are members of the Pathfinder Society. Young members trying to make a name for themselves and a rival party challenges them to a Society dual of sorts. To come up with the next great instalment of the Pathfinder Chronicles. And a bunch of mysteries of Golarion are thrown into a hat and drawn. And their task is to investigate his death. The designated Venture Captain that is to oversee this gives them their first step. Go visit one of the last surviving priests of Aroden. A mad (half-elf or elf can't remember) who inhabits an old church to Aroden. Because if anyone had inside knowledge of what happened it would be someone who experienced it first hand.
Part 1
The PCs visit said mad priest of Aroden who after exhaustive talking with the man realize he is rather delusional and unhelpful. But it becomes apparent through his fidgeting and ramblings he has lost his holy symbol to Aroden. This takes the PCs through the first adventure recovering the holy symbol from a nearby ruin and old holy site to Aroden abandoned 80 years ago. Upon it's recovery the priest gives the first real insight into why people were certain Aroden is dead. And becomes lucid from his madness for the first time in decades ** The following is my text from the priest and not canon**
" Have you ever had faith and been so connected to your god? Most people never do. But back when the church was a true church it was a thing of beauty. A church like no other. No other church on the face of Golarion had the surety that their deity would manifest and make things right. That in a few short years all ones patience would be rewarded, with a divine reward on Golarion." Tears fill his eyes
When asked about the death
Speaks through partial sobs "How did we know he was gone......? A clerics connection to his deity is an intimate thing, you are invested with his power to further your gods cause. It's a humbling experience that should keep one in check everyday....... That day was greatly anticipated, we all knew how it was going to end. We al knew we would see our god return to Golarion on that day and all would be set right. And as the time approached....... I don't really know how to explain it....... as the time approached I could feel every other cleric of Aroden. I could feel their warm faith and anticipation, across the vast distances that separate us we all could feel each others consciousness....... And I mean that literally in an instant we were all aware of each other, we thought this was it. This was Aroden arriving.......... looking back now I believe this was more like the loving embrace of a dying parent, whose final thoughts were on their children. And then it all ended, no fanfare, no explosions just emptiness. One minute we were all connected, the next we were all alone with not even the feeling of our faith magic around us. I remember the confusion.... it soon lead to panic, when we realized our spells were no longer there, that our clerical magic items in the temples had lost their magic as well. All turned to weeping, and the disasters that happened over the next few months are well documented....."
Part 2
Working on this one. I have the idea of sending the PCs to Arodens faiths equivalent of the Vatican, for further investigation. I envision a huge abandoned (except by monsters and as of yet protagonist organization) Complex in an old nearly abandoned district of a city.

Part 3
The PCs investigations lead them to an organization of Diviners and oracles that supposedly saw the doom that was to come before Aroden died. What they saw had them all commit Suicide before hand.The bad part is that their headquarters was located in the Sodden Lands. Part 3 has the PCs trekking into the heart of the Sodden Lands to investigate what these people could have seen. Do these long dead oracles have insight into why prophecy failed after Arodens death? Also another confrontation with a particular shadow organization as yet to be determined.

Part 4
The Eye!!! The vague ramblings of the deceased cult of deceased diviners reveals one particular unknown piece of information.
**** Warning not Golarion Canon*****
When the Eye of Anendigo formed an Island rose from the sea floor. This adventure focuses on finding the best (and willing) stormrider captain willing to brave the heart of the storm to take the PCs to the mysterious Island at the heart. Something no one has ever done in recorded history. And the exploration of the island itself. Whereupon the PCs will find they are not alone on the island. The shadowy protagonists have secured the center of the island along with a naturally occuring portal in the islands heart. Where could the portal lead to?

Part 5
Axis!! After the PCs face off against (the protagonist organization) and enter the portal at the heart of the island, they find themselves transported to the outer planes. In point of fact they find themselves in an abandoned part of the great planar metropolis of Axis. Inside the former divine domain of Aroden himself. In this part of the adventure I plan to make it more sandbox style exploration where the PCs will fight insane former divine guardians of Aroden, and guardian denizens of Axis who were sworn to keep people out of this domain. Culminating in the PCs gaining access to the heart of Arodens former Domain, his grand Temple/palace.

Part 6
The Grave!!! The final installment will have the PCs find the final resting place of Aroden himself. There they will face off against the (shadowy protagonists) one last time. Whereupon they finally find out this organizations true goal, to find Arodens body and there find the secrets on how to kill a god. Will the PCs prevail and stop this organization from gaining powers not meant to be wielded by mortals. Will they manage to keep the sanctity of Arodens resting place? And maybe the most important question of all, will they submit their chapter of the Pathfinder chronicles?

My questions to help me develop this Adventure path for my home group.
Question 1- Is there an official Aroden Vatican? And if so where was it located?
I know at the time the faith was very much centred in the Empire of Cheliax so I like the idea of dodging Thrune agents and Hellknights
Follow up- If it is not yet revealed or something can't reveal (Arodens Vatican) can you suggest a place it would be located.
Question 2- What shadowy organization in your opinion best fits my ideas as a protagonist
Question 3- I know Arodens graves location is a secret. Therefore can you throw out some cool suggestions as to where I could place his grave completely unofficially of course.
Question 4- Do you like my ideas?
Question 5- Do you think it will be to frustrating for my PCs to finish this Adventure Path and still not know what killed Aroden? (As I plan not to reveal it to them, because in my opinion some things are best kept secret.)


Like I said I have no idea why I am the way I am. It isn't to attack pdfs, because I can definitely see their utility. I personally just can't use them. Not only just Pathfinder and gaming material. I love old books. I buy Folio Society books all the time as well. I love going to old antique book stores and just wandering. So I think it is something deeply ingrained in me.


Living in Potton Bedfordshire. Moved from Canada. Wondering if there was anyone around.


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I don't know what it is. I have a problem. I can't read pdfs. I have been a subscriber to pathfinder since the beginning, and I own all the pathfinder written material. Except the pdfs. I have a bunch of them available for download. And I have access to the pdf long before the written material arrives. And even though I am super excited, I just can't bring myself to really look at the pdfs because I hate it. I would rather lug a metric tonne of books around than one laptop. Even ipads are useless to me at games.
The most tragic part is I would love to support more 3pp companies. But guess what all those damnably stupid pdf releases ruin it for me. I have to have a book in my hands or it's just a no.
What is wrong with me. Am I just a technological luddite?
I don't even care how crowded my gaming shelf gets. I would rather have that than a full hard drive.......


Hey James is there anything you need or want from London or Cambridge when I go there next weekend?


I got Ned Stark. Grrrrrr heads will roll for this!!!!!

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