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That's a good tactic. What have you got brewing in your brain? This didn't seem the right campaign for me to submit Jolly Roger the bird-brained tengu bard. One day though...

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Gnomezrule wrote:
I am not gonna lie. This is hard for me. I have started this campaign a number of times PBP. I have a number of concepts and the candy store of conflicting ideas is crashing about in my head.

I believe we played alongside each other in one of those. How is Terz?

Gnomezrule wrote:
Jord Sturmsson wrote:

Seems selections are being made...

No cleric yet.. I'm still in with a chance.. Yar!

I thought recruitment was open till the 30th?

I was polishing things up before submitting.

It is, but it appears the GM is doing a rolling admission as he sees submissions he likes.

Kennesty, GM Grog disallowed 3rd-party material just a little bit before you asked. It's too bad, Path of War is so much fun!

Here's my submission for Johannes Appleseed, the Cleric of the Cup.

Character sheet

Born to a family of halfling slaves in Cheliax, Johannes Appleseed learned the cider trade the hard way. Spending his youth toiling under cruel taskmasters, he picked apples and pressed cider for the benefit of his master. The only thing that made the harsh labor tolerable was the rare sip of cider. The Appleseeds collected the runoff and the discards from each pressing in the fall and rationed it carefully among the slaves. The humans considered it undrinkable, dangerous even, but it was the best Johannes ever had to look forward to, without any hope for something better.

His fortunes changed for the better one harvest evening when the Bellflower Network spirited him away under the dark of a new moon. Forced to leave his family behind, he promised to come back for them one day. Swiping a bag of prized apple seeds and a pot from the kitchen, he escaped to Andoran. Moving quickly to Bellis, young Johannes was introduced to the wider world of fine spirits with his first sip of Bellis mead. Finding the faith of Cayden Cailean, he set off to travel the land spreading seed and cider in the name of the Drunken Hero, collecting exotic spirits and the secrets of making them.

Now Johannes finds himself in Varisia. The frontier has its own new drinks to discover, whether it be rum in Riddleport (improted from Garund by way of the Shackles), dwarven whiskey from Janderhoff in the Mindspin Mountains, or the Shoanti's fermented mare's milk on the Storval Plateau. Come to Sandpoint for the Swallowtail Festival, Johannes has found a great opportunity to preach the Doctrine of Drink on the eve of the consecration of a new temple, and maybe plant a nursery to boot!

I'm not incredibly familiar with the Forgotten Realms, but a Vistani sounds like it could be a lot of fun!

The classics never die. I'm considering applying with a halfling cleric of Cayden Cailean. We'll see if I can get crunch up in time.

What tone are you looking for with this game? Are you interested in standard heroic fantasy characters that find themselves in gothic horror Barovia, or would you prefer characters already suited to Barovia?

Question one: Are you allowing Prestige Classes in this gestalt?

Question two (assuming PrCs are allowed): Do you have any issues with or biases against complicated builds? I'm considering two possible paths. The first is a straightforward wizard/fighter path with Eldritch Knight thrown in on the fighter side later on. The other path I'm considering is a wizard/cavalier path with some class dipping to end up with Eldritch Knight eventually replacing the wizard side and Battle Herald replacing the cavalier side (with some class dips to meet pre-requisites). That will eventually look like wizard/EK/cavalier/cleric/BH. It's power-gamey as all get-out, but it's designed as party support instead of a showstopper.

Yes! I love Skull & Shackles, and the gestalt build will go a long way in making a viable Eldritch Knight from level one. Prospectively applying with a tiefling wizard (infernal binder)/fighter. Too contrast with the already slotted barbarian/sorcerer, I intend to play as a tactical battlefield controller before stepping in and cleaning up in melee. Crunch and backstory to come.

For what it's worth, I started PbP gaming on the Giant in the Playground forums (the site that hosts the Order of the Stick webcomic). In comparison, the Paizo applications are pretty light, both in length and number.

Something to keep in mind when looking for games to apply to is that you're not truly competing against every other applicant. Most GMs shoot for some semblance of party balance (for better or worse), so you're usually only competing against other characters that share the same role as your character. In fact, that's often how I'll decide what type of character to submit. If there are seventeen applicants for a game and nine of them are melee fighters but only two are divine casters, I'm throwing in with a divine caster.

Haran is correct. They changed a lot of names on the d20PFSRD to comply with the OGL.

I'd like to submit Alem abd-al-Hassan for consideration. Human Wizard (conjurer) with the Earning Your Freedom trait. I may alter crunch a bit; I'm considering using going with the Unchained Summoner instead, but they only get elemental eidolons rather than actual genies. Formatting needs to be updated properly, but the fluff shouldn't change.

I've always wanted to try Ravenloft!

You say that the characters are part of an established adventuring party. What setting norm should we build around? My understanding is that Ravenloft typically draws in adventurers from outside The Mists. Do you want us to play gothic horror heroes, or high fantasy heroes that suddenly find themselves in gothic horror Barovia?

Would you be willing to entertain the possibility of a Kuthite attached to the Hellknight force? Nidal and Cheliax have a history of cooperation and it's not unforeseeable that more militant shadowcasters would align themselves with Hellknights. If no, that's totally fine, I just thought it'd be worth asking.

MisterLurch, Javell, good to see you two again.

Zebrynna "Moonscar", Drow Rogue 2/Psychic 1

What do you look like?
"Red eyes without a face, like a shadow. Oh, you mean underneath the mask, the hood, and the cloak? Average height, I guess. Average weight too. Aren't we all? Corpulence is hindrance to survival where I'm from. You've never seen a drow elf before? Dark skin, not sure what color you'd call it. It's not black like a mushroom, not gray like a duergar. Maybe a dark purple? Like the color of a bad bruise. My hair is white, like chalk I guess. I keep it short. It tells the matriarchs that I'm not their plaything. Less to grab onto in a fight. There's a scar on the left side of my face, crescent-shaped like the moon. Maybe I'll tell you how I got it sometime. I've got others, but nothing I'm going to show you anytime soon. I've always thought I have a great nose, y'know? Sure it's been broken a few times, maybe it's a little crooked. It adds character, makes me look like me. The rest of those snooty nobles have these pointy, upturned noses that I can't stand. They're always so worried about their perfect features, even when they're busy warping their flesh or trying to graft themselves to a spider's ass."

What were you arrested for?
"Honestly - heh, that's a word I don't often use - I'm not sure. I can't remember. Lately I have trouble remembering things. It should come back to me before too long. Things usually do - I think. It could have been any number of things, really. Maybe I stole something from the wrong person - I do that a lot. It could have been for blackmail - I do that a lot too. I've got a little something on everybody, and a little bit of pressure goes a long way when you know where to push. But it probably had something to do with that glowing stone. It was green, pulsing, uncut like a raw gem, but not like any gem I've ever seen. It was big, too, bigger than my head. It's probably worth a fortune."

Did you actually do it?
"Gods, I hope so. There's nothing worse than wrongful imprisonment! But the way those nobles play, who knows? Could be I just got caught in the cross-fire of political in-fighting. I'll remember soon enough. Probably. But how much does it really matter, anyway? We're in here and they're out there, and if even half the things I've heard about this place are true, nothing in the planes is going to change that."

Do you play well with others?
"Depends. What are we playing? Right now it looks like we're about to start a pick-up game of Survive-the-killer-dugeon, and I'm not about to go down without a fight. Fighting among ourselves is just going to get us all killed sooner than later. So I guess the real question is - do you trust me?"

When I rolled HP, I didn't account for the multiclass. I'll keep the first two rolled (8, 2) and ignore the last (5). Here's the roll for the psychic HP: HP: 1d6 ⇒ 3

I'm almost done. I hope to be able to get it all up by midnight, but just in case.

Campaigns like this tend to be some of the best, and I'd love the chance for some pulpy western gaming!

Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (1, 4, 3, 2) = 10 9
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (2, 1, 6, 4) = 13 12
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (2, 4, 2, 1) = 9 8
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (1, 2, 1, 2) = 6 5
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (3, 6, 2, 6) = 17 15
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (6, 3, 4, 4) = 17 14
Stats: 4d6 ⇒ (1, 3, 1, 1) = 6 5

Well, pulp heroes do tend to have some glaring flaws. Let's see what I can do with this. It looks like there aren't many caster submissions yet.

Race: 1d28 ⇒ 11 Drow (common)
Class: 1d39 ⇒ 9 Rogue 1d2 ⇒ 2 Got no chains on me!
Alignment: 1d9 ⇒ 3 Lawful Evil

Attribute 1: 1d12 + 6 ⇒ (12) + 6 = 18
Attribute 2: 1d12 + 6 ⇒ (11) + 6 = 17
Attribute 3: 1d12 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9
Attribute 4: 1d12 + 6 ⇒ (6) + 6 = 12
Attribute 5: 1d12 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9
Attribute 6: 1d12 + 6 ⇒ (6) + 6 = 12

HP: 3d8 ⇒ (8, 2, 5) = 15

Gender (1 male, 2 female): 1d2 ⇒ 2 Female

I can work with that. I'm going to throw in a second class for the fun of it.

Class: 1d39 ⇒ 38 Psychic

I don't know about the second one, but as far as the first and third go, here are my thoughts.

1. As written, you can't. He has no interest in you, and has complete faith in Mr. Plugg, who hates you. Making nice with Captain Harrigan is something you'd have to talk to your GM about. At one point later on before the mutiny there is a feast, and you might be able to make some progress with him there, but it comes so late it won't even matter.

3. Use your actions to influence crew members. The most important thing you can do is increase your friends and reduce your enemies, however you choose to do so. Make friends with Grok and Ambrose Kroop if you can. Either Diplomacy to make them like you, or Intimidate to make them afraid of you. If your GM rewards roleplaying, you can help NPCs on their actions or other things like that.

The first part of the game is a tiny sandbox hurtling down a railroad track. If done well, it can be a lot of fun. The status quo is that the officers basically hate you and there's nothing you can do about it but make nice with your fellow flunkies. Plugg and Scourge hate you, and you should probably hate them too.

That's a pretty good list you've got going there. I think that part of the issue is that Skull and Shackles is, in many ways, written as a vehicle so players get to play those kinds of characters.

There are other sources for sea-faring characters, even pirates, that you haven't mentioned here. All of your examples draw from a very narrow range of pop culture pertaining to the Golden Age of Piracy which was concentrated on the Caribbean in the mid-17th century. This completely ignores the Muslim corsairs and the Viking raiders, as well as piracy from East Asia. What about Sinbad the Sailor? Or Leif Erickson? Even if they may fit certain characteristics that you've included above, they still feel very different from the picture you've painted, which is the whole point. Also, if you haven't seen it, give Starz's Black Sails a watch. Captain Flint is fantastic, and it's a much grittier pirate story than we're used to.

My answer would be to play something other than a pirate. There are plenty of characters that can fit into S&S if you expand the theme in your mind beyond "pirates". Piracy is far from the only thing going on in this campaign, it's just a very important part of it. Think about the Shackles region in Golarion and the other places surrounding it. Within the Shackles proper, you've got the ruins of Ghol Gan, an sect of dragon cultists with their own archipelago, Mediogalti and the Red Mantis. Nearby, you've got Sargava and Bloodcove, the Mwangi expanse, and the Sodden Lands. Anybody from these locales could have ended up in the Shackles for any number of reasons, and they don't have to be strictly integrated with piracy. Maybe a storm blew your ship off course and you had to set in at Port Peril for some repairs?

Integrating your character within the Shackles will go a long way toward making your character appealing. In my opinion, the most boring way to play this campaign is to have a bunch of identical grog-swilling blackhearts with stereotypical brogues. Anybody who crews a ship that makes its money by poaching legitimate trading business is a "real pirate", even if they wouldn't be at home in a Treasure Island knockoff.

If you'd like to pitch some ideas, we can talk them over here. Heck, I've got plenty of examples of my own I could share if you'd like.

Junelee wrote:
I'm interested. I'd like to do a Healer type. I love clerics but thinking of something different. Suggestions?

Life Oracles are also good. Thematically, a Mwangi oracle could be similar to Tia Dalma from Pirates of the Caribbean.

Ms. Pleiades, would you prefer Roll20-style tokens or are you just looking for portraits or pictures that could be ported in to suffice?

Leedwashere, it seems we're both applying to the same S&S game. Coincidentally, we also both have the Besmara's Blessing trait and shipwreck backstories. I've never seen anybody else play the castaway angle before.

I have a tiefling wizard navigator that I intend to submit. I need to finalize stats to make sure they're compliant first, though.

Previous submission with sample combat

Updated background:
"It's not fair, Cim!" Ismene pounded her fist against the tavern wall in frustration, eliciting a a cry of protest from the barkeep as dust sprinkles down from the rafters. "I've been here over a year, but the priests treat me like a wet-behind-the-ears acolyte!"

Cimri had heard this litany of complaints before. Ismene had been braying about the same things since she came to Longacre. It was always, "There's never anything to do in this town!" or sometimes, "There's nobody to train with here! How am I supposed to get better if I only have wooden dummies to practice on?" and occasionally she would trot out the laughable "How can they waste my talents tending to the garden all day? I know the Asmodean law as well as any of them!"

In truth, Cimri was Ismene's only friend in Longacre, which was hardly surprising. Hailing from Isger, Sister Ismene had lost her parents to the Goblinblood Wars and was taken in by the Sisters of the Golden Erinyes. The Devil Nuns, as they were better known, had a fearsome reputation, and Ismene didn't exactly have a glowing personality (unless you count hellfire). Baptized in unholy water, the nuns taught Ismene to be violent and cruel and stronger than the chaos of a broken world. She was all of these things, but ever since coming to Longacre, Ismene found that she could be something worse - bored.

That was why Ismene liked hanging around with Cimri. The little hellion always had something interesting to do, whether it was a job to be done or some mischief to be had. For Cimri's part, letting Ismene hang around and complain had certain fringe benefits as well. For starters, the horse-faced girl with the crooked nose made Cimri look more attractive by comparison, and the freakishly-strong nun was good for intimidation factor. Cimri had plenty of use for cheap, reliable muscle.

"Cim, there's got to be more to my life than this! I could go to Egorian maybe. I hear there's a convent there, the Sisterhood of Eiseth. They worship the Erinyes Queen, and they become erinyes when they die! How incredible would that be?" Cimri had heard this half-baked scheme before, too. Ismene liked to fantasize about running away and joining a Whore Queen's cult, as if that would solve all her problems. The idea wasn't completely without merit; Ismene had more than her share of enemies in Longacre. The priests hated her because she was a political liability (and because she was a woman), the Hellknights hated her for crippling (and embarassing) an armiger during what was supposed to be a friendly demonstration of martial arts, and the Sherrif hated her for corrupting her daughter Cimri (if only she knew the truth). Getting out of Longacre would at least let Ismene escape from all that. There was only one problem with this idea. Sister Ismene had been sent to Longacre specifically to aid the Asmodean temple here. So unless the head of the temple released her, Ismene was stuck.

Cimri had told her as much before, but that conversation never went well. Ismene wasn't the only one who wanted to escape the prison of Longacre, but if they were going to leave, they would need friends in high places. Most days, Cimri didn't know what to say. But today was different. The winds were beginning to shift in Longacre, and fortunes along with it. "Well Sister, today's your lucky day. See, I've got this job..."

Ismene drapes herself in loose-fitting robes of red and black that hide her muscled figure. She wears her hair cut short to keep it out of the way, denying her opponents an easy advantage. She wears a string of prayer beads around her neck, ornamented with an Asmodean pentagram. Her nose has been broken multiple times and her knuckles are covered in scars, betraying a history of violence.

Raised by the Devil Nuns of Isger, Ismene is cruel and violent and vindictive as an erinyes. Valuing personal strength above all else, Ismene looks down on those that are weaker than her and resents those that are stronger. Schooled in Asmodean doctrine, Ismene likes to skirt the edges of the rules and twist words to her advantage. Still, she's not bright enough to truly abuse the rules, and she often finds herself hampered by those who are more clever. Having lost her parents to the tumult of the Goblinblood Wars, Ismene is grateful to the Sisters of the Golden Erinyes and loyal to House Thrune. Painting herself as an angel of Thrune vengeance, Sister Ismene will gleefully aid in breaking the rebellion.

More songs just for fun.

Leedwashere, I found some information on Cimri elsewhere online and I'm working on changing a couple of things around to incorporate her into Ismene's story. When I get that finished, I'll submitting the new stuff here, but I'll link to the previous post for the sample combat turn to keep everything in one place.

Congrats to those selected! Have a great game :)

If a full party was desired, it wouldn't be difficult to recruit more. So the choice to play solo is often intentional. In those cases, I prefer to play one character. A solo campaign that focuses on one character allows you to tell very different kinds of stories than you could otherwise. If one is two few for combat purposes, there are always NPCs played by either player or DM.

It also lends itself to character builds you otherwise might not get to play. Pet classes, summoners, and necromancers can have lots of minions to help.

I wouldn't say it's too difficult to play multiple characters, as long as ask the mechanics are familiar.

I seem to have dropped the ball on the theme song. Try this version instead.

I'd rather not create an alias just yet, but here's my submission.

Sister Ismene, Devil Nun of Isger:
Sister Ismene
Female human monk (uncahined) 1
LE Medium humanoid (human)
Init +3; Senses Perception +2
AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 12
HP 11 (1d10+1)
Fort 3, Ref 3, Will +2
Defensive Abilities AC Bonus
Speed 30 ft.
Melee unarmed strike +5 (1d6+3) or flurry of blows +5/+5 (1d6+3)
Ranged shuriken +2 (1d2+3) or light crossbow +2 (1d8)
Special Attacks flurry of blows, Stunning Fist (1/day, DC 13)
Str 17, Dex 13, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 8
Base Atk +1; CMB +4; CMD 14
Feats Dodge, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist, Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)
Traits Asmodean Acolyte, Reactionary
Skills Acrobatics +5, Climb +7, Diplomacy +4, Knowledge (history) +4, Knowledge (planes) +1, Knowledge (religion) +5, Perception +2, Profession (farmer) +6
Languages Common, Infernal

Born in Isger during the tumult of the Goblinblood Wars, Ismene was orphaned as a baby and left in the care of the Sisters of the Golden Erinyes. She was babtized in unholy water and raised under the strict discipline of Hell, administered with zeal by the nuns. Her many mothers were not warm or nurturing, but they kept her safe from the chaos of the outside world and taught Ismene to defend herself. In time, she learned that the perfect law of Hell, while harsh, kept society safe from anarchy. Having witnessed the destruction wrought throughout Isger by the Wars, Ismene grew to appreciate the Asmodean doctrine. Its cold, unfeeling justice comforted her and gave her life purpose; she pitied those who clung to their notions of freedom. Couldn't they see that they were merely trading sureness for uncertainty, enslaving themselves to the whims of 'fate'?

As the years passed, Ismene grew into a devout young Asmodean while what was left of Isger struggled to put itself back together. When she finally came of age, she eagerly took the vows that brought her into the fold as a Sister, eager to repay the nuns for all that they had done for her. To her surprise, she was not to be staying at the orphanage that raised her. The needs of the Isgeri orphanages were waning as the glut of orphans from the Goblinblood Wars was beginning to taper off. Instead, many of the young nuns would be sent back to Cheliax to aid in missions there.

At first, Ismene was apprehensive about this mission, but she accepted it without complaint. She owed her life to the Sisters, and House Thrune by extension, and she would do whatever she could to serve the Empire. Now attached to the Asmodean temple in Longacre, Sister Ismene seeks to make good on her vows. Disgusted with the undercurrent of dissent and rebellion in the small town, she stands ready to dispense Hell's justice on the ungrateful isurgents who would see Cheliax plunged back into civil war.

Sample Combat Turn: A Friendly Demonstration of Hamatulatsu

Initiative: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (20) + 3 = 23

Round 1: Initiative Count 23

Sister Ismene bows to the opponent before her, a Hellknight armiger. She takes a deep breath to center herself, feeling the energy flowing through her body. She bends her knees slightly, preparing to spring into action. Her face is expressionless as she sizes up her opponent. Young. Arrogant. Terrible stance. Strong frame, but his joints look weak. Chanting in Infernal, she aligns her energies for her opening salvo. The Hellknights were about to get a demonstration of the power of Hamatulatsu.

When the call goes out to begin the match, she darts forward, closing the distance between the combatants in the blink of an eye. Before the surprise can register on her opponent's face, she drives her fist into his solar plexus, finishing her chant and releasing the infernal energy into her victim's body.

Declaring use of Stunning Fist. Move action to move 15'. Standard action to attack with unarmed strike and Stunning Fist (DC 13 vs. Fort save).

Active bonuses: bless (+1 to attack rolls and saving throws vs. fear)
Attack: 1d20 + 5 + 1 ⇒ (14) + 5 + 1 = 20
Damage: 1d6 + 3 ⇒ (5) + 3 = 8

Active Conditions:

Theme song

Some notes - I don't have HeroLab or anything, so the stat block was hand-typed. It should be correct, but I'd be happy to fix any discrepancies. I haven't finalized gear selection yet. Finally, I don't really know anything about Cimri, so I'm not yet sure how to work her into Ismene's story.

Is Variant Multiclassing from Unchained in? You didn't mention it, but Unchained is on the PRD, and you specifically included Background Skills, so I thought I'd ask.

Dotting for interest! Right now I'm considering an Isgeri orphan from the Sisters of the Golden Erinyes for an interesting take on the monk.

Btw, loving the musical interludes. The Heavy is my favorite band of the moment, and have been since they released The House that Dirt Built.

GM, that's fine. In fact, I can take an archetype that will delay the mount until level 5. I'm thinking of going with a battle herald build, though we won't actually get to high enough levels to take it.

2d6 + 6 ⇒ (1, 2) + 6 = 9
2d6 + 6 ⇒ (1, 4) + 6 = 11
2d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 1) + 6 = 12
2d6 + 6 ⇒ (3, 5) + 6 = 14
2d6 + 6 ⇒ (1, 5) + 6 = 12
2d6 + 6 ⇒ (4, 4) + 6 = 14

A whopping 14 points there. You guys took all the good rolls :P It'll be the standard 20 for me, then.

Str: 5d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 2, 5, 6) = 23 16
Dex: 5d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 3, 2, 3) = 20 15
Con: 5d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 4, 6, 3) = 19 13
Int: 4d6 ⇒ (1, 2, 4, 2) = 9 8
Wis: 4d6 ⇒ (1, 2, 3, 1) = 7 6
Cha: 4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 1, 2) = 9 8

I'm thinking about going Cavalier. A very capable warrior, but unimaginative, reckless, and abrasive.

Since it's open to the public, I'm definitely submitting interest!

scranford, if the DM is okay with the Dragonborn race, there's a great hook in the Shackles for one. There's a cult of Dahak, a dragon god, living in a group of islands ruled over by their priestess, a red dragon. You could be from the town of Dragonsthrall.

Upon re-reading in some more detail, this appears to be a private game. I apologize for the intrusion. If you do decide to open the game to the public I'd be happy to apply, but for now I'll respectfully withdraw.

Skull & Shackles is great! The first part is practically tailor-made for PbP too since it's so roleplay-heavy.

I haven't had the chance to play 5e yet, so I'll need to look it over some. For the time being, I'll tentatively present Ambrose Jeggare, tiefling wizard and former navigator for the private Korvosan merchant ship Imp's Purse.

4d6 ⇒ (4, 6, 2, 6) = 18 16
4d6 ⇒ (4, 3, 3, 5) = 15 12
4d6 ⇒ (6, 2, 4, 3) = 15 13
4d6 ⇒ (3, 6, 4, 1) = 14 13
4d6 ⇒ (2, 4, 6, 6) = 18 16
4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 1, 3) = 11 10

Yes, that stat array will do just fine I think.

For what it's worth, if you're using point-buy you can just dump the stat(s) you get a bonus to and bump the one you want. The only "downside" is that the math makes it impossible to achieve the theorycraft maximum +4 or +5 in your main stat at level 1, but you still have a very viable character that can be more well-rounded stat-wise.

Prepares to dodge tomatoes

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Wiggz wrote:
Exactly right - and in the face of constantly being told not only that it would never happen, but even why we were so wrong for even asking for it. I, for one, never think its a bad thing when customers want to tell a company what they are eager to spend their money on.

This is the second time you've expressed this sentiment. I'm sorry you personally feel persecuted for having wanted to see this product. However, there was very good reason for reminding people of the party line. In fact, the constant reminding may have been one of the key factors in ensuring that the book got made.

The issue is this: the hardcover editions of the adventure path function similarly to trade paperbacks in comics, and are fraught with the same vulnerabilities; namely, the risk that the consumer base will refuse to purchase the individual issues on the assumption that they will be able to purchase the collected trade paperback. Paizo's business model is reliant on the monthly income from the Adventure Path subscribers, and if it became commonly-held belief that every AP would simply be reprinted as a hardcover in a few years, that source of income would dry up and the hardcover would never happen.

The problem with people constantly asking for the hardcover is that it helps perpetuate the perception that the hardcover is on its way, which may prevent people from subscribing. This is not merely hypothetical - it was a main fear of Paizo's the first time around, and they were very clear about the danger that such an attitude posed to the product. Aside from the subscriber problem, Paizo also has backroom stock that they're trying to sell; any issue of an AP that isn't sold represents a monetary loss, not just on production but also in stocking and in destruction costs. One of the important contributing factors that helped both RotRL and CotCT get re-published was the fact that they had mostly become unavailable and prohibitively expensive to acquire on the second-hand market. The enduring popularity of these APs, the lack of physical access to the product, and the timely milestone anniversaries meant the stars aligned to make both very special products happen.

Enjoy the CotCT hardcover. I know I will. And many of those who vigilantly reminded people not to get their hopes up are just as happy to see this product as you and the others who were so vocal in their support for it. Please don't feel that you were the personal target of any attacks. Because the same risks to the company still exist, and they're arguably even more likely to come to pass due to this new book, which means that many of us will continue to remind the rest of you that a Second Darkness/Legacy of Fire/Kingmaker/etc. hardcover is not likely to happen. And when and if those products do eventually see release, we'll all celebrate together again.

Has Magus from Ultimate Magic been tentatively approved? Or is that a case-by-case basis situation?

GM what is your feeling on elven martial traditions? The official sources don't have much in the way of fluff for elven fighters besides archery. Are we free to make up our own?

Wow! Thanks for the background info; somehow I never picked up on that. I'll come up with something else, then.

Homebrew campaigns are always some of the most interesting. And one that explores ancient history? Count me in!

GM Gathrix, I see that there are a couple of role restrictions on the kinds of elves allowed to pass through. Half-elves and evil elves are explicitly left behind. What about Forlorn? If allowed, I'm contemplating a Forlorn elf with the High Elf trait returning to Kyonin to escape the Starfall. While they were ostracized by their fellows from Golarion, they find new acceptance among the elves of Sovyrian.

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You're also ignoring the planar conflicts that do exist. The qlippoth and the daemons, for example. Then there's the part where Golarion is both a physical and metaphysical cage for Rovagug, who would completely devour the multiverse if he were to escape.

katataban wrote:

This is the recruitment thread for the Taldan faction of Conquest of paradise. For more info see: this thread

Additional character creation info:

Races: phb core races are allowed, anything else, please put to me for consideration.
Alignment: Any non-evil

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katataban wrote:

This is the recruitment thread for the Cheliaxan faction of conquest of paradise. See: this thread for more info.

Additional rules:

Races: Core rulebook + tieflings, others please run by me
Alignment: Any non chaotic.

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katataban wrote:

This is the recruitment for the andoran faction of the conquest of paradise campaign. See: this thread.

Additional rules:

Races = PHB core, other races may be considered, ask me.
Alignment = Any non evil.

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katataban wrote:

Okay. I've set up recruitment threads for the different factions.




The Consortium

This way it's easier for me to see who wants to play in which group. If you feel your character could fit in different groups, feel free to post in all those, or just let me know by PM.

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katataban wrote:

This is the recruitment thread for the Aspis consortium faction of conquest of paradise. See: this thread for more info.

Additional rules:
Races: any Paizo race up to 13 points is allowed, anything over, check with me first.
Alignment: Any, but please keep the consortiums goals in mind.

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After considering mechanics, I have no idea what direction would be most appropriate. Should I build like a solo fighter? Like a team leader? Take performance combat feats? It's all heavily dependent on GM preference and how the game is run. GM, I can put together a more complete backstory if you'd like and propose some possible builds, but I think I would have to hold off on the final build until we've had a better chance to talk things over.

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