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Turin the Mad wrote:
People having conniptions about anthropomorphic good gods being less than perfect.... Me I'm all for Olympian foibles, it's the rough edges an imperfections that make for a more interesting game.
Then again I think superman is the most boring pointless character ever invented, followed by that one trick pony the Hulk, oh and batman meh....
Are we talking rules or world?
What's irritating me at the moment is the monolithic mono-cultural pantheon. They need to build in regional differences, they need to demonstrate how the average person worships, do the venerate one God or do they venerate the beneficial ones and placate the dangerous ones... Do pregnant women make little sacrifices to Lamashtu in the hope she doesn't "bless" them with a still birth or birth defects, do farmers placate Pazuzu so birds don't eat their crops.....
Erastil has been retconed he is all fluffy and nice now... No imperfections anymore.
It comes down to communication with the whole group as to who wants what out of the game and then negotiating any conflicts in individual players/DMs desires.
Our pre campaign chat starts like this.....
DM "No Bob* you can not play a 20th level aboleth paladin named Pete!
And so on......
*Bobs name was changed because he posts on here occasionally .
I have always wanted to run an all dwarf game...
But I have the type of players that will be super enthusiastic say yes what a great idea then turn up with a character sheet with elf written on it...
"hey Bob why are you playing an elf?"...
That difference may have been transmitted to Keneally by his primary source... Then again he "said in an interview in 2007 that what attracted him to Oskar Schindler was that "it was the fact that you couldn't say where opportunism ended and altruism began. And I like the subversive fact that the spirit breatheth where it will. That is, that good will emerged from the most unlikely places"".
My wife has met Thomas Keneally, her impression of him is that he is a happy wizened gnome that uses the full extent of his Irish ancestry to tell powerful stories that ask you to treat your fellow humans better....
We don't have res spells - we do have hero points, and we RP our use of hero points, to save dying characters.
If a character dies we RP the intro of the new character, and new characters just don't show up.
We had a character death about 8 sessions ago, the battle was epic we had all used our hero points (props, spell recalls, re-does for saves and so on) and the Druid who had turned the tide for us got isolated and killed by the big bad.
We still talk about the character and how much they are missed, the character death has made the party harder and edgier we aren't soft when we are interrogating prisoners. It's personal.
In Australia the polls are saying that our conservative government would be crushed by 36 seats and that our PM is about as popular as diarrhoea in a chocolate shop.
Nobody is jumping up and down with joy.
We are all just tired of politics and politicians and want them all to f* off out our lives.
As I said it's been done.... All you need is Mutants & Masterminds (which is a D20 game) the Supernatural Handbook and the appropriate gadget guides Cybertech, Mecha(to a limited extent), Vehicles, Guns, Robots, Utility, Nano tech, Bio tech, Spy tech, Magic and Computers.
The M&M SRD - D20 Hero SRD.
The book that Spielberg bassed the movie on was written by an Australian, Thomas Keneally. I suggest you read the Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith. Keneally is considered one of our greatest novelists.
"Schindler's Ark (released in America as Schindler's List) is a Booker Prize-winning novel published in 1982 by Australian novelist Thomas Keneally, which was inspired by the efforts of Poldek Pfefferberg, a Holocaust survivor. In 1980 Pfefferberg met Keneally in his shop, and learning that he was a novelist, showed him his extensive files on Oskar Schindler. Keneally was interested, and Pfefferberg became an advisor for the book, accompanying Keneally to Poland where they visited Kraków and the sites associated with the Schindler story. The book was later adapted into the highly successful movie Schindler's List directed by Steven Spielberg.
Also HD Jerry Sinefield is a genius.
Edwardian style Diesel Punk game with biplanes, Zeppelins, land ships, and the great game with all sorts of rebellions, brush wars and minor conflicts going on between the great powers.
I would use Earth have a Shadowrun style Awakening/Goblinization based on mythology.... Trolls in Norway, Korbukuru in Japan, Minotaurs in Greece, Redcaps in Scotland and so on.
The reason for the Awakening would be that somebody opened Pandoras Box (dimensional gateway) and let the magic back out.....
There would be factions wanting to put magic back in, others wanting to let the Angles/demons/Devils/Elder Evils out....
So in essence it's a D20, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Shadowrun, Rifts game.
Machine Gun Fellatio NSFW - language and skimpy costumes..punk/power pop/burlesque
Dave Graney the Australian godfather of smooth.
The Cruel Sea because Tex Perkins is the coolest man in Australian Rock.
Jim Butchers inspiration for the Codex Alera series "came from a bet Jim was challenged to by a member of the Del Rey Online Writer’s Workshop. The challenger bet that Jim could not write a good story based on a lame idea, and Jim countered that he could do it using two lame ideas of the challenger’s choosing. The “lame” ideas given were “Lost Roman Legion", and “Pokémon”."
Where do you go looking for ideas? If you get stuck for inspiration what do you do to stoke the creative fires?
Bundy (as its affectionately known) is an Australian company. It's named after the city of Bundaburg in the state of Queensland. It's in the Tropical sugar cane growing part of the state. Lots of sugar meant Rum.... For some strange reason Bundy have a polar bear as a mascot.... A square bear is a 1.25 litre bottle of Bundy Rum, and it's good stuff, while the Dark & Stormy may have originated in the Bahamas it's a very popular here as well.
I grew up in the sugar growing region of my state in a small coastal town, our produce was macadamia nuts, tropical fruit, dairy, sugar cane and fish.
They have stopped doing it now but before harvesting the sugarcane they used to set fire to the cane fields, at night you could see the glow of the fires all around the town. It looked so cool, It was kind of apocalyptic. Then the next day soot & ash would waft down putting black marks over everything.
Thatcher wannabe and worst Speaker of the House ever Bronwyn Bishop was destroyed politically by getting caught abusing her travel privileges..
"In mid-July 2015, Bishop became embroiled in controversy surrounding her use of parliamentary travel entitlements that ultimately led to her resignation as Speaker. It had emerged that she had chartered helicopter flights from Melbourne to Geelong and back to attend a state Liberal party fundraiser on 5 November 2014. The cost of the flights was $5,227.27 for a journey that typically takes an hour each way by road. Bishop refused to resign over the expenses claim"... Until the PM her best friend and biggest supporter was forced to ask her to resign because his party was taking a hammering in the poles.
A big part of her destruction was her helicopter trips had become a meme LINK. The government is a total joke at the moment.
Labor is still annoying me the leader is from the Right, my preferred leader is old school Left but the powerful unions in my state are controlled by the conservative catholic right of the Labor movement....
Yep the whole satanic panic thing was added to the long list of excuses to punch a nerd.
I played rugby, surfed, sailed, did karate, went fishing and camping...
I still got the s~*# kicked out of me for lots of "reasons" red hair, fat, I read books for fun, had a posh accent, I was crap at sport, wasn't born in the town, played the devil worshiping D&D game, liked Heavy Metal, liked Rap music, liked Monty Python, wasn't an inbred son of a sugar cane farmer or fisherman and so on.
N. Jolly wrote:
I hope not because it will mean a change in my Pistolero Grenadier character concept.
Steve Geddes wrote:
Some very radical changes, mostly good. Once you grasp what they have done with Creature Law it's probably the best part. Creature Law is not set out very well yet. Treasure Law is also cool the Alchemist profession is very interesting.
The major problem is they are trying to simplify it and keep the classic feel and it's a very hard balancing act.
I play Pathfinder because my group does... It's my preferred version of D&D.
I would prefer to be playing RoleMaster, GURPS, or Shadowrun.
I am participating in the free Beta play test for RoleMaster. Because ICE has nowhere near one tenth the resources of Paizo, its a very small community and a very slow process.
My favourite Shadowrun characters street name - his human parents were fans of an early 20th Century fantasy author and they named him after the 8th dwarf through some guys door..... So he called himself The 8th Dwarf... Been using the handle since the 90's and the Shadowrun BBS.
The funny thing was when communist dockworker Ork physad on the team found out my characters name he would rant about how the Author was a racist and his books were basically Mein Kamph for Elves.
The other way to go is explore other systems. See how magic works in GURPS, Shadowrun, Rolemaster (which began as an alternate combat and magic system for D&D), Savage Worlds, WOD, WHFRP, and see what works for you.
It's totally cool to be a fan of more than one system. The Devs play other RPGs I am sure it helps with inspiration for PF.
D20 modern is a much deeper game than that. It's a different approach to the restrictive class system that pervades D20 games. I recommend that you take the time to look how it works. The initial classes are something you build from and move on to the advanced classes.
I have played D&D since the 80's and Shadowrun since 1st Ed (& many many other systems). I love both and find playing different systems refreshing, it recharges my batteries and none of the systems I love go stale.
I would be hesitant to invest my time in a massive project (because I wouldn't want to slap some stuff together and call it Shadowrun ) that other people may refuse to play because it's not the real thing.
If I were to do it I would use D20 modern, SRD is free. Maybe pick up pick up the future sourcebook, and take a look at the Spycraft books. There are a lot of very cheep 3rd party books/PDFs out there that will suit your needs (why do the work when somebody else has).
I would probably set it now/near future with goblinisation, the eurowars, and the great ghost dance happening.