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I can agree with that. I have just seen so many times of people tripping out over anything martial not being purely and completely realistic. Kinda like when weapon cords got a nerf in part because a developer couldn't really do it that well with his mouse.
Well speaking of Caster/Martial disparity, my gears get ground when people freak out at a Martial doing anything thats beyond real world capability.
What you mean your monk can punch through a stone wall in 5 mins......anime is influencing the system too much.
Your fighter can fall off a 300 ft cliff and walk away......systems broken.
Your barbarian can swim in lava and not die........too unrealistic.
Your adamantine sword cuts rock better than a mining pick.......it's not a lightsaber bro.
Your wizard can stop time teleport in a demonic horde mind control half the enemy forces and nuke the rest........that's the way they made the game don't be upset just house-rule it.
captain yesterday wrote:
While nothing seriously professional I worked the kitchen at our local country club for about 4 years before I moved, and I know the feeling. i would much rather make a burger at home any day of the week.
So between this and the threads on slavery, how does one even play anything other than a true neutral fighter with no ties. I seriously want to know. I see threads where even the thought of raising the dead should have you kicked out of the game. But having strong religious beliefs could also be being a jerk. Owning slaves is being a jerk and needs to be abolished, but if you press your anti-slavery Andoran feelings to hard its also a problem. Is this more of a board thing or is playing anything with a belief system possibly asking for trouble.
Jiggy your talk of curve balls reminds me of the first campaign i ran after I got married. Things went great and fairly predictable for the first several months, mostly due to having 5 fresh no ttrpg experience players. I ran them trough Expedition to Castle Ravenloft when they hit the right level. The group was so intent on stopping this evil vampire they rushed the castle the second day there without weakening Strahd at all. My plan was to play it straight and give them a reason to back out and plan, so when they met the first real tough opponent (the demon on the parapets) I expected a death and run, and was more than willing to let them escape. The party fighter ( a very holy and devout warrior of Kord) and the groups barbarian decided to save the others by bullrushing the demon off the edge. Both of them rolled 20's and sent it and themselves plummeting. The party druid saved them from death by healing them after flying down in wildshape. So they rolled with it finally encoutering Strahd the next week. This time I was sure I could scare them out. Instead they trapped him in a wall of stone with the druid. The druid dropped a sphere made from dust of dryness and then shifted into a large Crocodile. 6 rounds later she had managed to hold the vampire lord under water for 3 rounds to kill him. This was one of the only times I have ever truly wanted to change things up and let the bbeg pull a John Cena. But I rolled with it they freed the towns people. Never did send a vamp against them again though.
Amanda Plageman wrote:
What about "Because Lawful Good" or "My oath forbids I stand by and watch this travesty"
A few AP things to keep in mind. Your players will have abilities far beyond their PF kin in some cases. While you might not choose to rework every encounter from the ground up I would recommend adjusting feats where appropriate and Reworking major fights to include some mooks. A evil mastermind even one built with these rules won't function well 4-6 on 1.
I work in an open air shop, meaning we have no A/C. Temp has been over 100 for most of the last 2 weeks. Everyday at least half of my customers will ask "Don't y'all get hot out here?"
I honestly want to respond sometimes with "No in fact after so many years of doing it we have adapted beyond the need for A/C. In fact so well adapted that if we don't kick the heaters on in early October the technicians start getting lethargic and want to stand out in the sun just to warm up."
Clearly we are okay with paratroopers around here.......Just don't screw up the net.
I only have my little brother and my wife as far as family goes no issues yet. However even though my father is no longer "Gaming is of Satan" we still can't play at his house. Now he wants to make sound effects from the next room.
Seriously we were start RotRL the goblins attack and I describe a goblin cackling in the distance and from the next room we hear my dad laughing in a high pitched shriek.
Wait I'm missing c/m Disparity discussion? Quick someone link me a thead I love those.
I'll just take an overall survivor of the spam wars tag for every account active during this time.
I know it would be a pain but could it be set up where the first few new threads by a new account have to be checked before they go live?
As a former Safety Manager at a rail switching site I can agree with the above. Human error will screw up a rail system more often than anything. After the cited incident our company had our heads of safety and site managers checking every standing piece of equipment for proper handbrake numbers constantly to verify we weren't having an issue with compliance on them.
We shall go on to the end. We shall fight spam in Product Discussion, we shall fight spam in Paizo General Discussion, we shall fight spam with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our message board, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight spam on the beaches, we shall fight spam on the landing grounds, we shall fight spam in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight spam in the hills; we shall never surrender.
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Ask the Average person on the Street how likely it is that guy can get his throat slit and live without intervention, the vast majority will think it unlikely. Do we also now change the Coup de Grace rules?
Ask the average person on the street if they think trained archers miss 5% of their shots at a target 10ft away, most will think thats unlikely. So do we now change misses on a natural 1?
Ask the average person on the street if they think a man can be in an empty room with an explosion going off and suffer no damage to him or anything he wearing most will think it's unlikely. Do we rewrite evasion?
Understand that this isn't about disallowing T10 when it couldn't be done by the rules. This is about T10 being disallowed when the only reason is the GM feels that either A) the task being attempted is a distraction therefore no T10 or B) The GM decides that the party bypassing the chance of failure would reduce the feel of the game.
This a thousand times over. It pains me when I go to check the news on the internet and can only find maybe 10% of the news stories in text, the rest seeming all to be in video now. In the time it takes me to watch one 5 min clip I could be through 2-3 articles of text. Or to actually have to look up info on a video game these days. It's all lets plays and youtube tutorials. I miss text.
For those who seem to be fairly rooted in the belief that the player needs to have some breakdown of how and what they are saying, does a acrobatics check require a player to tell you how they move to get past an opponent or does a simple I tumble past the orc to avoid AoO suffice?
Do Blacksmiths have to tell you what temp they forge a sword at. Do mages have to detail out their Somatic and Verbal componets in order to cast those spells?
Yes its a role-playing game but if a 15 year old can have a 26 str half -orc barbarian and sunder a table in half with dice. Then someone who isn't a speaker can still attempt diplomacy.
This isn't directed at those who might say you need basics. Simply I roll diplomacy might not cut it. But a statement of I try to secure us some additional rewards from the mayor, I rolled a 18 Diplomacy should.
You know this is one of the things (speaking of perception mostly) that I feel 4E got right. Passive perception was never overridden unless the player wanted to roll. If they entered a room them with traps or hidden creatures you checked if anyone auto-noticed them. If not then a decision to search the room could be made by the players if they wanted to scan over things before entering.