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RPG Superstar 2013 Star Voter. Pathfinder Society Member. 3,860 posts (3,937 including aliases). No reviews. 2 lists. 1 wishlist. 6 aliases.
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Thomas Long 175 wrote: ciretose wrote:
Here is why this won't work.
1. Schrodinger's Wizard magically appears at 12th level. He didn't have to to go through the awkward phases of wizard life picking up all those feats and pre-magic item min/max scores, often dying in the process, he appeared fully formed. And he always has the exact right spell at the exact right time, and plenty of time before and after to buff. Hence, he is undefeated.
2. Assuming anything is begging for the goal posts to be moves.
3. Some people on here seem married to beliefs to the point of religious fervor.
I'm not even reading the posts, how right am I?
Wizard hasn't been brought up in a few pages I don't think. :P
3 is correct.
Edit: I'm sorry i misspoke. The word wizard was used 3 times in the past 3 pages before you came in. Speaking of Religion can I speak to you about the wonders of his Magnificance Lord Wraithstrike.
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33. If you don't like your salsa burning hot warn me .... I mean the person making it so I don't throw in a handful of super hot peppers.
I was so glad we had plenty of milk that day.
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I usually try to have a contingency plan ready for running away. The best I've seen however went to our party monk a tetori who had grab and rhino's charge. He really liked to charge and burn ki to grapple spellcasters. He had ready to charge the next person who cast a spell believing the enemy wizard would cast shortly after his turn the wizard died on the next turn from the paladin followed by every one but the monk and sorcerer failing a save against a contingent wail of the banshee. The wizard goes to cast teleport the monk looks up " what about my readied action".

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3.5 Loyalist wrote: Talonhawke wrote: 3.5 Loyalist wrote: Rynjin wrote: EldonG wrote:
Nonsense.
If it's actually a scenario set in Golarion...(where there is NO AMAZON)...
But there is the Mwangi Expanse and the jungles in that area.
Very analogous to the Amazon, is it not?
EldonG wrote: I approach a ranger. Where? Generally they're already out in the wilds somewhere, not just hanging around town swigging beer with nothing better to do.
The Mwangi expanse is more deepest darkest Africa, which merges into Egyptian culture if you head north and east, and Moroccan if you head north and west, just like our world. Yep just like our world plus DINOSAURS. That is all. Don't be like that. C'mon, you know they copy paste real world geography and cultures heavily (with some changes of course). The Arabs are always south and east of what could be considered Europe, Asians are in the East or so far West, and so on. I was meaning that you were right except that Mwangi is better because of dinosaurs.

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Detect Magic wrote: I am similarly against gay marriage, but not because I think gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry. I'm against telling churches that they have perform marriage ceremonies for folks that they don't believe should be getting married. Besides, if a church wants to deny a gay couple the opportunity to marry, why would you want to be a member of that church? Even if I was religious (I'm not), I'd find it hard to associate with (or support) a church which doesn't view all people as equal under God.
That said, I believe marriage should be a religious ceremony and nothing more. It shouldn't grant any legal benefits. The fact that it does seems to me to be a violation of the separation of church and state.
All "marital rights" and legal benefits provided by marriage should be provided instead by a civil union. Thus, two people can join, legally, and be recognized by the state, whilst having no association with the church (or any other place of worship). If they'd like a religious marriage as well, they should be free to have one, but would obviously have to find a pro-gay congregation. Now, that's probably a problem for some people depending upon where they live. Pro-gay churches are out there--but they're not abundant in all places.
Sadly, as I don't expect this to happen, I'm in support of gay marriage, because I think all people, regardless of sexuality, are entitled to the same human rights (including the right to "marry" whomever they wish).
This highlights how I feel as well on the issue though said far more eloquently than I could even begin to. Bravo!
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If the limits are arbitrary or misinformed then yes I might ditch. If the limits are defined or make sense then I'll rehash my concept.
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I'm sorry 3.5 not meaning to poke fun but when I read "must be this high in diplomacy" all I could think was "do you smoke it, freebase it, or does it come in drinkable form"

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Been following this for awhile now and honestly I'm with Kirth. I've had to modify classes/ races but very few times have I ever had such an issue that something was banned( one example of banned is the Truenamer and that was a group agreement). On the other end I've had GMs ban classes at their whim or bad rules reading. Two GMs I've had banned monks completely one because they had read the rules horribly wrong ( they thought a monk could flurry with all of his limbs as in at 1st level 2x hands feet and head for 10 attacks). The other banned it because quivering palm was overpowered and broken. Even after being shown that an equal level wizard could install kill so much better and more efficiently he still thought it was a game ruining ability.
So I had to pass on my favorite class every time they ran ( which for years those were the only DND to be played) and go for something else. All because of very uninformed gms who didnt want to even try to listen to any reason.
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organized wrote: I'll take some good old fashioned Jack Chick over Robertson any day. Some one in my neighborhood used to give out his little graphic novels every Halloween. I remember those from church camp that's where I learned DND was about summoning the devil. And rock and roll albums were blessed with animal and virgin sacrifice by the Church of Satan. Yeah fast forward 10 years and I started playing best friend at the time was the preachers kid. He wouldn't play without making sure it was cool with his dad so i let his dad borrow my books. Two weeks later his dad's only things to say where "I don't see a big deal with this." And "Are halflings anything like hobbits?"
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Also on the subject of things being "exceptions " look to the Titan Mauler it was supposed to be an exception. But to do something different than the rules you have to have rules that allow it. The Titan Mauler didn't have rules to let you actually do what it was supposed to do so it doesn't let you do it.
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More wood for the flames here is the 3.5 paladin of freedom's code reprinted.
Code of Conduct
A paladin of freedom must be of chaotic good alignment and loses all class abilities if he ever willingly commits an evil act. Additionally, a paladin of freedom's code requires that he respect individual liberty, help those in need (provided they do not use the help for lawful or evil ends), and punish those who threaten or curtail personal liberty.
Associates
While he may adventure with characters of any good or neutral alignment, a paladin of freedom will never knowingly associate with evil characters (except on some sort of undercover mission), nor will he continue an association with someone who consistently offends his moral code. A paladin of freedom may accept only henchmen, followers, or cohorts who are chaotic good.
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Sean K Reynolds wrote: MrSin wrote: Huh, that sounds like something that should be in core to me. Well, Ultimate Campaign is a book in our core line...
But anyway, if "that should be in the core book" was the deciding factor, the Core Rulebook would be about 1,200 pages... Would that be enough to qualify it as a two-handed weapon?
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Yes every attack that is from stealth or flanking will grant sneak attack dice to the damage.
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@ Lord Fyre I have to agree on the fact that women also want these things to a degree.
On of my wife's first request when I got skyrim on my pc was better looking female models and more feminine looking armor.
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Just when I thought I had all the books I needed till ultimate campaign.
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shallowsoul wrote: Lord Foul II wrote: Gunslingers have a problem of yes they are powerful, but they are expensive, espically at low levels. Being expensive is part of what balances the class. How far are you going to get having eight arms with a gun in each hand but only enough money to buy ammo for one? Cost should have been the balancing factor. But no people still freaked so now we have a full BaB class whose signature weapon has slower reload than a crossbow, the same range as a thrown weapon, and not the ability to critically fail but a better chance at a crit fail than it has of critting. All for what 10-40 ( or as I call it get eaten range) for touch attacks that we can expand x times a day with our limited grit points.
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FAQs for the glorious and all powerful Lord Wraithstrike the Shrouded One.
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Bill lets ignore the mom and baby.
It will cause a healer to decide to let a loved one die.
It will cause a pacifist to decide to break his peace and attack someone.
It will cause a priest chanting a ritual to close a hole to hell to decide that attacking the taunter is more important than keeping an invasion of balors from reaching the material.
It takes away the ability of the character to use reasoning and thought in their actions and simply attack in some way instead of doing something that might be much more important to them.
And even if we allow the "throw a rock" loophole it still waste a standard action and still can cause someone to act out of character.
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Sadly the flaw is a lack of masterwork unarmed strike.
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My actual attitude is more of show me my mistakes so that I won't be making them again.
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The sever better have mystic tiers to handle the upcoming traffic
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I would just like to throw in maybe a FAQ tag to make searching for those blogs easier to find. Especially on my iPhone.
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In the very long thread on the subject (which has no resolution) it was asked if anyone has done this in PFS and how gms would rule on the subject.
Please let's limit this to whether or not you allow it and if you have a strong reason why or why not please explain.
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What confusion monks have good Will saves and good wisdom?
Oh you meant flurry carry on.
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Either way if they fail the second save on hideous laughter it's still a good send them away for a few rounds tactic as Jiggy pointed out.
Spell components 5g
Robe of the archmagi 75000g
Look on the BBEG's face when he comes back from a laughing fit in space Priceless
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Well if the monk can reliably hit more often damage will shore itself up some. Really I think it's been said best " lets figure out what we want the monk to be and go from there"
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Also the metal sub-domain points out using a pair of unarmed strikes uses TWF.
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What if I'm doing to unredeemable mindless killing machines hell bent on killing all life. Can we at least talk about neutral?
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My what fine rustic aritecture I think I shall have a closer look.

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Skylancer4 wrote: Icyshadow wrote: The sheer level of contempt you hold for people who want the Monk to actually be good with their unarmed strikes (which truthfully is what the class exists for) is just amazing. But sure, let's just cover the pages where the Monk entries are in our CRB's and pretend it never existed, since apparently the Unarmed Fighter is what we were always supposed to play and never the Monk. It isn't contempt, it is a realization that what you want from something isn't what it was MEANT to do.
As soon as the Fighter is doing 2d6+ damage, with his FIST OR SOME OTHER BODY PART for no other reason than being a Fighter we can have a conversation. The monk is good with his unarmed strikes and has the damage dice to back it up, feel free to ignore that as I'm sure you will, because it isn't "good enough" for you. Being good at something doesn't mean you have to outclass the guy who is supposed to be, you know, the Fighter in the group. Being able to do 2d6 AND have the AC of a medium armored unit AND have a +40' movement boost above and beyond your normal speed, all with no equipment and no investment? That isn't bad by any means for someone who is supposed to be "good" with their unarmed strikes. The fighter can't do that can he? You do realize even at the d8 they end up in with monks robes a fighter is going to have so many stacked bonuses to damage that the monks 2d10 is just shameful.
I mean really over a monk with the exact same str( which is unlikely) and the exact same AoMF at level 12( when the monk gets 2d6) the fighter has 10 more static damage 7 higher hit chance and one more attack and a higher threat range than the monk. And that's assuming the monk can afford the str pumping like a fighter can.

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After seeing the phrase " that's the kinda thing you need a feat for" come up in several threads I have to wonder if somethings that aren't defined in the would be better off as rules not feats, some feats included.
See the difference while subtle at first is actually very big. A rule applies to everyone while a feat applies to just those that have it. Right now in the rules for instance there is nothing covering using a grappled target as a shield for more than the standard soft cover. It's one of those things you have to house rule. Now if the devs decide to put in something to change that they can either add rules for making a check to do it or make a feat. Making it a feat actually becomes prohibitive since you now lock out anyone who can't spare a feat.
An actual example I can think of is the feat that lets you shine light off of your weapon to blind someone. This is really the kind of thing dirty trick already covers but now you need something else besides dirty trick to blind a guy with shiny light.
A copper for your thoughts.

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Darksol the Painbringer wrote: TOZ wrote: Darksol the Painbringer wrote: If the Monk class is really causing this much whining and crying, then you might as well provide a "Do-It-Yourself" fix, instead of do nothing but complain because the Dev doesn't balance the class out yet, or in a way that you don't want to have happen. Darksol the Painbringer wrote: I'm sorry, what do we need to change about a Monk again, other than the fact that Monk players are a bunch of whiners and negative nancies?
Not a damn thing. Get back to your Emo Corner. Irony. Not really irony. I am still under the guise that Monks don't have any issues whatsoever, and find they are fine the way they are. I only listed that option because people are being impatient with the developers trying to make changes. If you don't like their changes or don't want to wait for their changes to be made, then make some for yourself; it's not rocket science. It's the same solution one does for all cases of Homebrew, where they want to implement something new, tweak some things around, etc. You make it yourself, or you find something that was already made. Ban news I checked the guys in PFS still say I can't home brew a monk fix.
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The main issue I have with brawling is we have been flat out told that to make an item that effects only unarmed strike and not natural weapons would break realism on how it could work. Then the go and do it anyway.
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Heck after searching D20pfsrds whole bestiary the balor is the only non medium/small thing using a whip at all.
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The only guy I have who does this does it right he takes from a chest or body but he never screws anyone on it. He might make out with a handful of coins or a fist sized gem. But he won't take weapons or such and claim he never found them.
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I will second the have to find the method to deafeat a Mythic creature. And in a more potent form than DR if its just DR then it can be overcome unless its a super number and then its just a target for magic.
I'm thinking something like having a creature be only vulnerable to something thats rarity is based off of how mythic it is. Such as having a powerful undead that can only be beaten if your weapon was dipped in water blessed by a priest during a certain holy festival.
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My main suggestion is to make sure it gives Martials a chance to really shine. I want mythic rules to give me abilities where the arguement of thats not realistic doesn't work.
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Wraithstrike your right its time to end this.
Anyone who happens by with the power to lock and make this thread disappear please do. It is filled not only with useless and misleading information but it contians little to no relevant information.
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Comfort is a go to choice for med/hvy armor users.
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Katanas that don't do the historiclly accurate 36d6 damagage with a 2-20 x4 crit.
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On an off note after watching much DBZ Abriged does Bob Dole's constant use of his own name qualify him as a Pokemon?
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My question is why do developers suddenly think that Split-screen co-op is a bad thing. Yes I know they want tos ell more copies but for some of us we only have one system to play on and let me tell you my wife wants equal time. I mean i can remember me and my buddies crowding around a 22" TV to play golden eye or the old gauntlet games for hours.
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I just want a whip that doesn't need a feat to do lethal damage that still has reach. But it looks like we are keeping the UC version of the Scorpion whip for now so no luck there.
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@nosig did you also notice you can now T10 Dayjob rolls.
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I find it funny that this guide fixed the problem with the Heirloom trait being a tiny trap option and not in the way I thought. I figured we would end up seeing it removed as that was the quickest simplest way instead I'm impressed to see that we can now have it made masterwork and thus actually carry our war-hero fathers Longsword all the way to retirement. Thank you.
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wolfman1911 wrote: Am I just cynical or is anyone else thinking that George Lucas won't release any information about that race because he was too lazy to make it up, and then thought that he could pass that off as being clever?
Anyway that's a very cool idea, if I ever GM, I might have to use something like that.
Nah I just figure someday down the road when he decides he needs a few more million he will authorize it in some book to sell mass copies.
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........Dear god you may have something here.
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Why challenge him? If he wants to run up and do minimul damage to a creature then be ignored then whats the problem?
Challenge him by showing him that unless his tactics evolve he isn't actully doing anything but being a hinderance.
It would be one thing if he was dealing 30-40 damage a round while being unhittable forcing you to get in an arms race. But in stead he is drawing all power from his weapons to his shields and doing nothing to help his allies who are being beaten bloody all around him.
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Make sure you pick cohorts for leadership who also have leadership whose cohorts also have leadership whose cohorts also have leadership..
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If you try that at my table the a lvl 20 expert chef shows up and gives the whole party a lesson about cheese. In the form of a wine and cheese platter using his scroll of Heros Feast.
There ya go Jiggy.
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