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From today:

- "Dell Technician" call 1: he spoke with an "old lady" voice who apparently couldn't understand him, and asked continually if he was her grandson.

- "Dell Technician" call 2: he spoke with an "weird" voice that he wanted to speak normally, until he finally identified it as a "female" who demanded he call her "Kitkat" until he hung up.

- "Dell Technician" call 3: he spoke with someone who (apparently) only spoke in Spanish. He responded by speaking in french - no, not French, the Latin language spoken by French people, but colloquial "french" for which many often ask pardon (which is supposed to be a dodge to avoid getting in trouble for swearing around kids). Man, he swore a lot.


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NobodysHome wrote:
My username is Creampuffy,

You lie. It's NobodysHome - I can see it, like, right there.

>:I

Yes, I know what you're talking about, but this was funnier.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
TL should add me on Steam.

Sure!

Question: hhhhhhhhoooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww...?

EDIT: Friend request sent!


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Tacticslion wrote:
Hm... maybe, "and with your spirit" is the new one?
Drejk wrote:
It isn't a new one, actually. It's the direct translation of Latin formula "et cum spiritu tuo". It's just that English were creative in their translation and only recently Roman Catholic Church issued the correction.

True. That's why I mentioned it below. ;D

That said, it kind of is new, though: the actual words, "and with your spirit" is English, and, in English, it's "new" as in "not what was used" - hence the perception of a "problem" among certain conservative individuals or groups (as opposed to Conservative individuals or groups, who may or may not fall under the first group of conservative individuals or groups).

Over-all, it's not bothersome to me - I don't use it after all - but I know of several who were upset by it, because change is a hard thing to accept sometimes.


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Oh! RPG! is on sale on Steam right now, and, having played the first chapter alone, I can tell you all: it's worth it, if you can get it! It's... surprisingly good! There are funy parts, and intriguing parts, and compelling parts, too. I've only done the first cahpter, but it's definitely worth the (current) two-dollar price tag.


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The Doomkitten wrote:
Plus, I don't plan on consuming any substance that alters my brain activity other than sugar. That includes caffeine.
Orthos wrote:
I miss caffeine but have to avoid it for health reasons. Otherwise 100% agreed.

Yeppers!

I got the "pleasure" of watching my mother's family "benefit" from the tender, loving caress of the various vices of those kinds (some with one, some with the other, some with both). I also lived in Lithuania.

Between those two on-hand examples, I was very open to my parents "Never." policy, and have implemented it to a degree a number of my peers found weird. On the other hand, I've never been in quite a number of the bad situations that they've found themselves within.

So, from my experience, I'm golden without, and have more than enough examples of "Nope." in my life to guarantee that I'm uninterested.

That said, some of my in-laws engaged fairly responsibly (though my parent-in-laws raised their daughter - my wife - to be a teetotaler to nearly my degree, which even includes medicines, so... there's that, too).


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Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:

In other news

It's finger lickin good

o.O


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Freehold DM wrote:
So what happens now? Do we stick with the worlds/settings we know are borked from the beginning due to loyalty or try to create something new on the ashes of lessons learned?

I like to do a little of both!


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
What? The church made a change? I don't know how to handle that.

There was a whole thing. A lot of the Latin was heavily re-translated for English, which caused quite a stir among certain groups of folks.


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Hm... maybe, "and with your spirit" is the new one?


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Orthos wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

... and also with you.

/religious-nerd-joke

Oh good, I'm not the only one to have that urge.
I don't but Scint tells me all the time that she has this problem.

In truth, as a Baptist, I don't have the actual urge (to say such)... but I have enough people in my life that do (notably my wife and all my in-laws on her side) that I do automatically hear it. :D


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I want my RPG, too. (Or maybe a new one.) Ah, well. Good music. :)


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Caineach wrote:
I know people IRL that can swim in platemail, so the idea that relatively high level Paladins can do it (or at least the one whose career is based around the water) can doesn't surprise me.

I don't even actually see them swimming. Technically, by RAW, do they sink more than they are, now?


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Ashiel!

I remember you liked these last time, but I've forgotten which ones I have or have not shared with you.

... so I'm sharing them again!

Animated music videos~!

Magic
Money
Ghost (i.e. "part one")
Freaking Out (i.e. "part two")

(It's not all of their songs, but these are all the "animated" music videos I can find - "Magic" is done by a different artist, and obviously is made of stills, but is really good nonetheless - and certainly better than anything I could do! XD)

EDIT: For prettiness in presentation, and clarifying to whom I was talking.


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... and also with you.

/religious-nerd-joke


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Cap Yesterday, Compulsive FAQer wrote:

Why on earth would I think you ever meant to offend. :-D

I've got thicker skin then that man, all good. :-)

I'm still going to have to FAQ that however.

My good sir, I never questioned that. It is a generic non-targeted disclaimer, as I can see Poe's law taking effect for tired people or those who've just had a day that lends itself to that kind of perspective, or, you know, just any person who reads it wrong.

(I once actually had someone in face-to-face real life think I was being serious with exactly that line, once; the, "as I don't know how customer service works" part (or something very similar) spoken and all.)

((True story, and I'm not proud of it, but another such moment happened stour local Melting Pot; it worked out in the end, so it's funny, now, sort of. It was literally being closed down because the rent was too, ah, high (and it was being increased). It was sad because we loved the place. Some friends of ours were visiting, and we managed to get there either the last night they were open, or the night before. It was extremely awesome as always. At the end, we paid, started to leave, and I was thanking everyone, as they'd really done everything perfectly. Kids had to go potty, and we got stuck waiting in-Resteraunt. I saw a manager girl sitting there looking kind of exhausted, so I thought a joke might cheer her up - stupid idea, but we were all tired and waiting for the kids to go potty - idleness and exhaustion make for bad decisions. Anyway, I walked up to her greeted her, and mentioned, in a completely matter-of-fact manner, with my best joking face on, that I had some serious complaints about the experience - I mentioned that the wait staff couldn't read my mind or the future, that the food was undercooked (this was a fondue place - you cool it yourself), and a few other nonsense complaints, finishing with, "...and I'll never come back here, again!" Instead of the tired smile, the lady looked really concerned and unable to answer. It was then that I realized... she hadn't gotten the joke. Then I was quickly stammering, trying to explain, poorly. Fortunately, there was another nearby employee, a friend of hers, that was watching and had gotten it, and found the whole think hilarious (he'd been laughing, softly, until she obviously felt bad). He was able to clear things up quickly and easily. But I felt badly that I'd (however temporarily) made her day a bit worse. Fortunately, it all ended in smiles and a chuckle.


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(In case it wasn't obvious - and depending on how anyone's day has gone, it might not be, while I did flag my post, the above post was a joke, more or less for captain yesterday's and the local Paizo customer service representatives' benefit. I feel you guys. Hard jobs are hard.)


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The Doomkitten wrote:
What? Can't hear you over rereading the Name of the Wind for the umpteenth time.

There's a problem. It was published in 2007 - around the time I started running out of time.

I literally ran out of time to read about that time, barely managing to finish Shadow Storm and similar novels.

:/

(I wanna read more booooooooooooooooooooooooksssss.)

I love Richard Lee Byers and Paul S. Kemp so much I will read their stuff even if it is in forgotten realms.

True 'dat.

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Lois Tilton's short story Hands remains a major favorite of mine with respect to fantasy.

I need to read this and Name of the Wind at some point, but, uh, looks like I've got a loooooooot of reading to get to it.


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Freehold DM wrote:

dances around shrine to Weis, Hickman, Dragonlance in general

Put some clothes on!

Dude, I'd put clothes on for a full ten minutes before you made your request. Keep up, sir.


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Speaking of fantasy literature, I was always find of Barbara Hambly. Her Winterlands books, despite being semi-depressing, were quite influential on me at one time, though I'm uncertain if I've read Knight of the Demon Queen or not, and I've certainly not read beyond.


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Quite some few years back, I'd read a book. I recalled it being quite interesting, if dark and mildly disturbing. I'd always wanted to read the rest of the series it seemed to be buoy for, but I'd unfortunately forgotten both title and author. Good news! Today, I finally (nearly two decades later) found the book! Even better, I found the name of the series! The series consisting of... just the one book.

Dang it, Weis, it's one of only two solitary books in your career, and remains the only one implied to be part of a bigger series. >:|

Come on! Two decades... for nothing!

Oh, well. Thanks for contributing so much to D&D... I suppose... if you're into that sort of thing...

he says from a major PnP publisher's website

Bother-it-all, FAWTL, I was bearing my soul, my pain, not the rest of me!

*re-dresses*


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On all accounts: fair enough.

(Also, oooooooooooooooops.)


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Also:
"Trust me."
"Always."

... Da-GUMMIT, this comic makes me love paladins.


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Andostre wrote:

I hate myself for asking this, but...

When she took off the ring of water breathing, wouldn't that still leave her lungs full of water?

Depends on how it works.

Given that it's a smooth transition, unless a lot of energy was spent defying physics and biology in even more complex ways, the easiest explanation is, "Nope." because she doesn't gag or cough or wretch or anything delightful like that when she first enters the water. In which case, the spell probably removes the heavy water and leaves you with fresh air. Hence she floats instead of sinking and holding her breath after removing the ring.

(Though if you rule it the other way, that makes more sense, biologically and physically - it's just you'll be choking for a bit during the transition as your lungs fill up with water.)

EDIT: Don't get me wrong. It's going to be really weird, no matter what. It's just going to make even less sense, due to less-obvious reasons otherwise.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Well, I am now the proud owner of a Goth tiki shirt, so I believe that forevermore I'll be able to associate with them and be called, "That d**ned Hawaiian guy!"

Some of us aspire to greatness. Others aspire to cool nicknames...

...

STOP STEALING ALL OF MY DREAMS FOR YOURSELF.


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And now, for truly awesome music! >:D

(I love this stuff, so.)


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Disney World full of Goths.

On a boat.

And you're wearing a DAG-GUM Hawaiian shirt.

NH, why are you living all of my dreams.

>:I

And now, in order, comments:

Also, I have no idea who they are, but I love that sequence of the dapper-dressed gentleman eating an apple when the goth woman came up to him and chatting, him leaning and saying something, and then the two walking off side-by-side.

I also love <Impus? {can't tell slouch}?>'s "fake tie T-shirt" - it's about the best tie he could ever wear. Good taste.

The lady in the purple flowers is ridiculous! That dress and ensemble is incredibly gorgeous (and she sells it, too!) and must trap heat like an oven!

Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllllllllllllllllllllt~!

I love how "chill" you look going down Splash Mountain. You're just holding you hat: happy.

<Impus? {I'll say "green"}>'s chillaxing just makes me want to be there so daggum much. I want a pink/orange drink thingy at Disney!

STEAM PUNK COWBOY AND SON. MY CHILDHOOD IS COMPLETE.

I love <Impus? {I'll say "black"}>'s picture with "Raven's Lament"... in front of the raven griffon. So awesome.

Also, I've noticed: <The General?> seems to have "the look" down hard - I bet she practiced! (Reminds me of my wife when in-costume! XD) Hope her birthday was awesome!

The young Disney Alice girl and older Goth Alice* girl are adorable!
* I'm presuming it's Goth Alice. It really reminds me of American McGee's Alice for some reason, even though that had a more 'traditional' look to her...

Nice "panning" shot! (I can't tell what everyone was gathered around, but it was cool seeing so many gathered like that!)

Also: rainbow-face sparkle man spandex? Is... is that a goth thing that I just don't get?

I also love everyone's hats! Good call on those, really.

I do feel lied to, however: YOU'RE NOT BLONDE. C'mon, dude! I've been picturing you basically as Elan since we started talking! Deception~!

>:(

;D

EDIT: Cooooooooooddddddddiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg~!


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Hrothdane wrote:
Am I the only person that remembers the Iron Man cartoon from the 90's?
Aaron Bitman wrote:
I remember seeing a few episodes. It didn't look all that great. On the other hand, the Iron Man movies DID, in my opinion. The Iron Man cartoon wasn't nearly as successful - nor, in my opinion, nearly as good - as the Hulk and X-Men cartoons of the time. I didn't see much of the Spider-Man cartoon, but I understand that was successful as well.

You are not, Hrothdane, though I admit that I only know it from more modern times, instead of back in the day.

The problem with the Iron Man cartoon is that there were two shows, that were very, very different from each other, both of which pretended they were the same show with two different seasons.

Season one was crap.

It was hokey, goofy, and Iron Man was a Gary Stu figure to an insufferable degree whom everyone revered and/or pined over with the series finale being the two females of the show flanking him and giving his (metallic, and thus probably cold and uncomfortable) mask a kiss from either side, happily aware that he wasn't going to choose between them and eager for him.

Season two was actually pretty decent, though I feel they went a little too far in the opposite direction... especially since it was supposed to be a sequel to the one that had just finished.

In it, Iron Man was a tortured, hated outcast whom no one liked and suffered from various emotional traumas, having to win over his friends for a disagreement that, from what I could tell, was less than some disagreements they'd had in several of the episodes of the first season. The people around him kind of seemed to hate him for "lying" to them... by not actually having changed his stance from what he'd literally said to their faces... in the previous series season.

Other than that bit of oddity (and a new dark grittiness thing), it was pretty okay.

ShinHakkaider wrote:
I might be the only person I know who was not a fan of either the 90's X-Men or Spider-Man cartoons. That animation for both of those shows were pretty much unwatchable to me. To add insult to injury the Japanese opening to the X-men cartoon was AMAZING and then promptly shifted back to the crap animation.

The animation was so much better than so many other cartoons (I didn't have access to anime at the time), that I really didn't care. And later on, I was... invested.

The difference between the opening and show was kind of painful, however.

That said, I didn't watch Spiderman nearly as much as X-Men. Probably because I'd gotten a few free Pizza Hut VHS Tapes of X-Men, got into them, and lived in Lithuania watching and enjoying those.

But Batman and Gargoyles are the absolute best of their eras. THE BEST. (The rest of the DCAU is also really good, in general.)


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captain yesterday wrote:
Spring is in bloom here.

I'm sorry. I've got allergies tooooooooooooooooooo...


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Tacticslion wrote:
That's awful. I'm so sorry.
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Sad part is, I'm not surprised in the least. It's just not shocking for a major American city.

While true, from what I can tell, that's not just a trend in the U.S..

Also that first link is interesting. It seems that metropolitan areas have a much lower crime rate than non-metropolitan cities... but major non-metropolitan areas have a much, much lower rate. Weird. Though it does, over-all, synch with "More people close together, higher crime rate" concept. Also, this was an interesting, if statistically uncertain study I just found. What a terrible topic.

EDIT 1&2: Related, am article linked in the comments. Also.

But! Let's go back to playing our game... where we break in... kill people... and... take... their... stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-...

So how is everyone in FaWtL?


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Dot


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That's awful. I'm so sorry.


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Randarak wrote:

Darn, I deleted, but wasn't fast enough.

Suffice it to say, its all subjective. One man's meat is another man's poison, as I've heard Bugs Bunny say more than once.

I stopped having the "what's better" arguments a long time ago about movies/music/TV shows.

You like what you like, and no two people's tastes are going to be exactly the same. No one should have to excuse themselves or apologize for it.

If anything, it can be fun to watch people get goofy over something, while you can just smile enigmatically.

For instance, I enjoyed the Green Lantern movie. I smile when people get upset over that fact. They will never know...

Hahah! For the record, it doesn't bother me when people don't like something I don't, or vice versa (so long as they're not really unhappy about it).

Yeah: people like what they like, and that's a for-sure thing - nothing wrong with that.

(Incidentally, I actually like the new Ninja Turtles movie - and appreciate the nod given to fan outcry by April's off-hand comment about them being aliens as "dumb" - which I know was panned by many, for reasons I can appreciate. The turtles are very ugly there... but the film is still relatively tightly made, awkward moments and all. So I'm here for ya, bro: enjoy the heck outta that GL film. (Also, I have no opinion on the film, as I've never had the chance to see it. Also, also, I do, in fact, want to see BvS, and enjoyed Man of Steel, and, though I like them now, feel that none of the original TMNT films actually made any sense, and still like Highlander, despite it's... uh... "quirks"... and am a fan of Cello Metal, and so on. Frankly, I don't know what's "cool" and never really have. And I'm kind of okay with that. :D)


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captain yesterday wrote:

So, Kobolds are the new Dwarves. :-D

Edit: because in Forgotten Realms, all dwarves had beards and were fairly asexual.

... I... I don't remember this at all... (though I think something like one picture of a bearded dwarven woman was in one Setting Neutral 3.5 book).

I know that dwarves and elves could create children in older FR works, which was indicated to be... dwarves. Do you remember where that was?


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NobodysHome wrote:
all the d**ned alligators slinking around.

Okay, I knew that yarn bombing was a growing trend, but who knew you could do surgery with knitting needle?!

/going really far for a swear-word/by-word "misunderstanding" joke...


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NobodysHome wrote:
Impus Major: So, if Disneyland has California Adventure, does Disney World have Florida Adventure, where drunken rednecks try to pick fights with you and go around wrestling crocodiles?

What is wrong with your kid?! That's not Florida Adventure!

I'm offended at that gross mischaracterization!

(Florida Adventure would be where you slather yourself in sunscreen with the obnoxiously white paste on your nose, walk into massive swarms made out of other massive swarms made out of mosquitoes, and enter into struggle over who's able to park closest to the thing you're shopping at while driving as slowly as humanly possible down the road, and making sure to - if you're including anything in the greater Miami area - gridlock traffic while speaking both Spanish and English poorly. Your son is thinking of Southern Georgia/Louisiana Adventure.)


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Randarak wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
...Bowie was just... meh...
You wound me sir, deeply, and then you twist the knife...

Hey, I admitted to it being an unpopular opinion!


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The Doomkitten wrote:
Thank you, TL, for reminding me every day that most religious people are awesome and nice, rather than complete nutjobs. I really need that sometimes.

I've been struggling with how to respond to this.

Such statements and sentiments are always extremely appreciated, but also always make me nervous - I'm always self-conscious, as I'm fairly aware of my own failings, and I'm always worried about that moment when I'll finally disappoint someone.

Generally, I wanted to say something funny, self-depreciating*, or similar, but... mostly I just come back to: I'm really grateful.

Though it's kind of boring, I can't really think of much else to say. I just hope that it's clear where my heart really is (at least, as clear as such things can be**).

I just hope that, as a Christian, and a person in general, I continue to live up to any good thing that you perceive in my manner and presence, and that I continue to live out the grace poured into me by more people than I can count, and, above all, from [Redacted for Religious Content on FaWtL - but, uh, peruse my bio page, and you'll get the idea, pretty quickly, I think :)].

Also: thank you. This has made for an even better day. :D

* For the record, though, I am totally a nutjob... ;p
** Given that hearts can be, and often are, very, very skilled at being deceptive and hiding the truth, even and especially from those who own them, I'm hoping that what I project is accurate to the heart that I have, if what I project is truly a good thing.


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As for the prerequisites, that's true. I'm currently just looking at the feats in a vacuum of anything other than themselves (and what they explicitly note).

That said, I kind of thought the ability score bypass things were legacy from 3.5, which makes a lack of expanding them seem weird.

Also, I'm exceptionally uninterested in the ever-escalating ability score requirements for feats. While these are feats, not classes, it still is starting to harkin back to the older systems in a bad way (for me, at least). "Must be this tall to ride." design kind of makes sense, but quickly becomes kind of goofy unless you presume very specific point buys and builds. It's easily one of the most complicating factors on the flow chart, and while I understand the decision, it actively hamstrings a fighter (who can't simply ignore the prereqs., unlike some other classes) or forces them into (or at least strongly encourages a sense of) a, "You're playing this character wrong with these stats, unless it's this way." - certainly not the intent, but the message-apparent.

One other side effect of this project is the clarification and ever-increasing divide (in my mind) of RAW, RAI, RAU, and RAtT; and why it is important to differentiate between them.

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Congratulations on your perseverance.

Thanks! The best/worst moment was when I realized that d20pfsrd had... *shudders* ... updated.

O.o

I had to trawl through the earlier part of the "already completed" sections of the alphabet...

Orfamay Quest wrote:
I admit that one of the design influences was the rather confused and scattershot feat list, which means that a lot of the interesting feats never see any play because they're too marginal to waste a slot on.

Yeah, I figured that much, at least. It's interesting; I expected that it would be OP, and kind of a fun train wreck at early levels, while slowly balancing out later on, but... I'm really not sure, now. It certainly allows you to break more of the combat rules than anything else, and allows the fighter to wield or equip every armor, weapon, or lack thereof from any source (they are proficient with everything, including improvised and unarmed). They get the expected bonus to attack. Then they get... weird. Lots of fiddly bonuses that, unlike my expectations, don't blur out into a smooth paste of "+<insert number(s) here>" - rather, the farther I go, the more it reads like, "You can do this, unless that, in which case this other, except for the ten things (see flow chart below) for all circumstances except this one, in which case..." and so on.

For full disclosure and clarity, this is exclusively my impression - I've not crunched all the crunch, yet, as I'm still figuring out what they can get, before saying what they can do. As I'm still on "F", this impression could change, but from my brief look down the list, I didn't see much that would. Perhaps when I actually crunch it, it'll be smoother?

Weirdly, it also doesn't free them from either a magic item dependency (those ability scores) or the scourge of multi-classing (it's still best to dip here and go elsewhere).

It's a fascinating thing to do, and shockingly enlightening. Make no mistake, this creature is a monster. But it's a fascinating monster that doesn't seem to suggest what I thought it would. Hm...


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I'm not a curry person (I like it, but in limited quantities), but I'm glad so many of you are!

(I've not yet made it to the local Indian cuisine place, because my family is... not into spicy food. Less so than even I, and I'm relatively mild about it.)


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Alright.

When I've had time and focus, I keep chipping away at this thing.

Fight Good may just break me... but not yet.

So far, I've made it to "F" though I've got to say, doing this has made me realize just how... hm... let's say, "niche" certain feat trees and combinations are. Like, to a confusing degree.

I'm not sure if that's the OP's intent, but it sure does make me want a clarified, streamlined, and simplistic version of the game with shorter feat chains and more optional methods of following them.

Also, does anyone know what the deal is with the feats banishing critical?

Is is it supposed to be a kind of soft-retcon? Are they both viable? Is it an accidental oversight that they both happen to be named the same thing? Are they supposed to be the same thing, but aren't? Has there been any comment on this?

(Incidentally, getting that +9 BAB required for critical focus would pretty much makes this an "end of career" feat for your arcane casters that can qualify for the old version, and a 12th level career feat for the divine casters. Was that why a basically magus-exclusive one was created? To net the magus a better option?)

Anyway, doing this also helps me appreciate the concepts involved in designing things, and why, "This seems like a fun idea." or, "This seems reasonable." might not always make for a good feat or prerequisites.

(Also, also, I really, really, reeeaaalllyyyy want Paizo to clean up how they do feat prerequisite presentations, and I want designers to go won the feat tree when they assign prerequisites - 'cause daggum. While I'm generally a fan of, "only the most recently relevant things need listing" - after all, if you have Power Attack as a prereq. you don't need to specify "13 STR" as a prereq., too - some of these feat chains get kind of goofy.)


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Playing Mario Make Believe with my two boys in the back yard is super precious. We just beat Bowser and got a Power Star!


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Go Rosita!


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Abraham spalding wrote:
For myself 1 through 9 were excellence, with Tactic being my love (level 99 before the third mission with all classes mastered on the main character).

I knew I liked you and respected your opinion! ;D


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Limeylongears wrote:


And now, a joke.

ಠ_ಠ

This leans means me toward agreeing with the captain...


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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Happy HAPPY Tacticslion!

It's true!


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NobodysHome wrote:
Sometimes actually hiding your phylactery instead of throwing it on a big glowy pillar is a Good Thing.
Tacticslion wrote:
Is this... a Hordes of the Underdark reference?
NobodysHome wrote:
Unfortunately, considering I've never even heard of it, no, no it's not.

It's an old computer game; it's part of the old Neverwinter Nights game (the computer game series that put 3.0 and 3.5 game rules into a computer RPG).

Of the NWN1 games, Hordes is the best campaign, but it's a direct sequel to Shadows of Undrentide.

Basically:

First, NWN1:
- OC: Neverwinter Nights (slow but "not terrible" campaign)
- EXPANSION: Shadows of Undrentide (simultaneous, but different adventure to the OC)
- EXP 2: Hordes of the Underdark (sequel to Undrentide)

Then NWN2:
- OC: Neverwinter Nights 2 (same region, a few years after NWN 1, different protagonist, similar pacing issues to NWN1 OC)
- EXP: Mask of the Betrayer (sequel to NWN2, and awesome game)

I'd recommend them... but NWN1 is almost, what, twelve years old, now? I don't recall when, exactly, it was released anymore I looked it up, it was 2002.

The point of the reference is that, at one point in Hordes (I shan't mention when, to avoid spoilers) there is a lich with his phylactery literally on an actual, no-joke, massive (well person-sized) glowing pillar.

Of course, it actually makes more sense for this particular lich*, but it's still pretty funny in its own way.

* You only spoil yourself:
The game doesn't actually go into why, but there are in-lore reasons for this lich's... hm, let's say "kind" or "type"... to keep their phylactery close. It's part of the strategy of this combat to attempt to find and end said lich before it keeps coming back... again... and again... and again... of course, you have to find-and-disable/survive all the hidden traps and/or find the secret door to do that instead of face it in direct combat... none of which are easy...)

Incidentally, there's also an in-lore reason why this lich keeps coming back semi-immediately. It's the same reason why it's phylactery is kept relatively close.

EDIT: Neverwinter Nights.
It's available on Steam (at least, that's where I've seen Orthos playing it), but I got my most recent copy via Steam from Game Stop - an unusual set-up, I think, but it was a special sale thing at the time. One of the best parts is the Toolset - you can basically make your own games, if you learn how. Lots of coolness.


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