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So I noticed that the guide mentions Bloodrager as an entry option, but what does a Bloodrager actually gain by going Rage Prophet? It certainly doesn't get the CL boost from Rage caster since it is not Barbarian, nor anything else directly referencing Barbarian. Nor does it get Greater Rage or Enduring rage. Perhaps it gets the bonus to DC and the ability to cast healing personal spells, though I guess that depends on if being in a Bloodrage is considered "raging" or if that is just specifically a Barbarian Rage.

Id also like to point out the Ulfen Guard / Furious Guardian prestige class as an entry option. With 1 level it gains Rage and the Guard Dedication class feature, which lets you choose from a number of benefits, including gaining a Rage Power. The only issue is that it has a BAB +5 prereq (along with some minor skill ranks prereqs) that will slow entry by at least 1 level, but otherwise it has an advantage over Barbarian in that you need to take only 1 level for Moment of Clarity, allowing for another level of Oracle. Going for 1 level dip and pure Oracle, Rage Prophet can be entered by level 9 (Oracle 7 / Furious Guardian 1 / Rage Prophet 1+). Not the fastest route, but it is the most efficient route by effective spellcaster level.
It has some RP prereqs as well, but that is something that can be put into character background.


Also poking around, I came across this FAQ:
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1gw#v5748eaic9t91

It seems to indicate all the different rages are all rages, just not the same kind of rages and would not stack with one another. In such a case, would any reference to "raging" be any of these rages? The class otherwise assumes Barbarian for a decent chunk of its abilities and those would not have Bloodrager stuff apply as a result, but otherwise, would that be the case?


As the Tittle suggests, if a Bloodrager/Oracle qualified for Rage Prophet, would Bloodrage be considered "raging" for the purposes of this class feature.

I understand that Bloodrage /= Rage except for some specific instances, and for a good chunk of the Rage Prophet class features Bloodrage/r wouldnt be applicable regardless, but in this case is being in a Bloodrage considered "raging", or is "raging" just synonymous with having the Barbarian rage class feature active?

I ask because I noticed some mention around the net of using Bloodrager as an option to enter into Rage Prophet via Primalist Archetype, but if you are not considered "raging" while in a Bloodrage then there would be no benefit really right?


Hello, I am pretty new to this community as well. I had a question pertaining to standard Multiclassing with these Archetypes.

Primarily, is it legal to multiclass between two classes while one of them (or even perhaps both) has a Multiclass Archetype with the secondary class being the other class levels taken? And would any shared or similar class features overlap or stack (or other)? For instance, a Heritage Overlord (Bloodrager/Sorcerer) and a base Sorcerer, is this legal? Would the class feature they share (Bloodlines) stack with one another, or would they overlap (and would each class need to select the same bloodline, presuming it was not traded out with an archetype)?

Presuming the above is not legal, what about Multiclassing two classes with Multiclass Archetypes that both have the same Secondary class (for instance, a Heritage Overlord (Bloodrager/Sorcerer) and a Heartbeat Assailant (Brawler/Sorcerer) )?

Thanks in advance for any replies, and good job to all the creators of this content, many of these archetypes concepts are quite amazing and it is great to see what kind of characters one could make with them!


Are there any classes that buff allied Spellcasters? Specifically, affecting their spells (be it increasing caster level, adding metamagic, etc).

From my cursory check, all I spotted was Magician Bard, but I doubt that is all there is.

Feats (or anything else really) are fine as well, presuming that they do not require the buffed spellcaster to take them (or the character has a way to provide the feat to the ally)

3rd Party Material is fine, though 1st Party is always preferred.


As the title.

The Geminate Invoker Barbarian has the Trance class feature which modifies Rage.
The ability states at the beginning of its 2nd paragraph: "Instead of the normal rage bonuses and penalties," and goes on to lists its bonuses, but does not list any penalties.
It notably states you can use skills normally restricted while raging, but doesn't say anything about concentration. It was a little fuzzy if this means they still can't cast spells while in a trance or not, but I decided to compare it to the Moment of Clarity Rage Power, which states "The barbarian does not gain any benefits or take any of the penalties from rage for 1 round." It goes on to clarify that these bonuses/penalties include the restrictions to actions. This seems to indicate the action restrictions are a penalty.

With that in mind, would Trance allow a Barbarian to cast spells while it is active, given it doesn't have the normal penalties of rage?