OK I will try to keep this as brief as possible and still provide enough back ground to understand all the issue. Due warning Page numbers and rules will be cited this is a rules lawyer area.
During the latest game session my DM actually read the description of the clerics holy/unholy symbol under the equipment section on page 130 of the 3.5 players handbook. He is doggedly hanging onto the passage under unholy symbols where it says (or by neutral clerics who want to cast evil spells or command the undead)
I as the cleric in the party that is affected by this sudden rules change argue that on page 33 under the descriptions of chao/evil/Good/Law spells it says that a cleric can't cast any spells vs his or his deities alignment so I as a lawful neutral cleric can cast any seplls along the good/evil axis but am only stopped by the chaos vs law. Meaning I can never cast chaos spells.
My charecter is 14th lvl Lawful Neutral cleric of Wee Jas, naturally I have no choice but to command because it says so in the book again page 33 under turn/rebuke undead.
My DM is actually a very good friend and will be reading the responses here so lets please keep the discussion polite. I'm asking for rules clarification and opinions not insults.
I think that a neutral cleric should be able to cast spells like bless water, holy word, holy aura etc but because I use an UNHOLY symbol of a NEUTRAL deity my DM says they will no longer work.
I argue that the holy/unholy symbol is important for turn/rebuke NOT for general spell casting.
This is not a "please help me overrule my DM" type post.He and the rest of my group will be reading the responses so we can lay this to rest.
The solution of my charecter changeing alignment has come up but we are trying to avoid that if possible, if not, one quick attonment spell and he's brain washed to be as right thinking as a pelorite.
thanks in advance for your helpful responses.
Has any one besides me ever had a character morph into something that you as the player didn't intend for them to become?
Using storyline and role play I currently have a druid that is quickly becoming a business tycoon. We are playing Hollows Last Hope series as a pick-up game with only two players. The setting is in the Forgotten Realms in the area beside the silver marches literally just north of The High Forest and Turlangs woods. I play a druid of Silvanus since that area is very heavy for his worship the other player is a githzeri monk of selune with a vow of poverty.
After completing Hollows Last Hope and The Crown of the Kobold King. I find myself running a mining operation, several farms and a quarry. I have also bought up the rights to the land around the elder tree in a 20 mile radius to stop the lumber consortium from going any further and naturally I own the land for 20 miles around the iron mine after all dead kobolds don't need it any more.
The monk died at the end of the last adventure so all the treasure was mine to do with as I saw fit. That's how I afforded all my businesses.
All my decisions make sense as far as a druid goes, he wanted to stop the lumbering of the woods but in a way that still provided for the people a way to make a living. I created farms, reopened a mine and pay wages 50% above and beyond norm and still make roughly 1K profit every month. The quarry is used for building to reduce the need for wood in home building so no real profit there.
My question is this has anybody else ever had a character morph this way? You start out as A but through the course of the adventure you become something you never intended.
The title pretty much says it all but the background is thus.
Buddy got married and had a kid.
I have tried to child proof my home as best as possible and the place is always clean but the mother wants us to game at their house where child care stuff is readily available. We have as a group said no.
Then when they do come over even if were in the middle of combat or whatever they leave right at 6pm because of the childs sleep schedule! seriously? like WTF! put her on a blanet and let her nap on the floor.
When the parents do "play" they are too busy watching the child to be very active in the game so mostly their EXP sinks.
it has gotten to the point where I have been asked to tell them if they can't play longer at least until the agreed upon 9pm shut down to no longer show up. I really don't want to do that and lose a friend but we are all very frustrated by haveing to bend over backwards for a out of control grabby 1 and somethings months child.
Any constructive advice would be appreciated.
I keep reading from various sources about the trick the dems are pulling in their respective state houses because they know they can't stop the vote to limit union power from happening so they have effectivly "walked out"
In one source the vote I beilieve in Illinois is to stop people from being forced to pay union dues even when they themselves are not nor do they want to be union members.
Sorry I derailed my own thread, My question is should the legislators be held criminally liabel for this kind of underhanded and illegal action. My opinion is YES! How dare they hold up the work of the state government just because they know they are going to lose.
Discussion is what were here for folks but please lets keep it very civil because this is a very hot topic.
My DM is planning on running us through the SCAP as soon as our eberron campaign windes down.
I am trying to be as helpful as I can by giving him as much information as possible so I went looking for the web enhancments mentioned in the issues 97-98 and 102 but so far no luck. I have checked the wizards archives as well but saw nothing.
If someone could link or tell me where they are at I would appreciate it.
My request is can somebody please provide me with the name of the guy that was tricked by the midget chessmaster and ended up building a very basic computer as a result.
I remember reading something like this in a thread about 100 desicions that would have spawned an alternate history and now I can't find the thread.
I'm takeing basic programming logic and design this term and we have to do a report and slideshow presentation on famous computer scientists so I would like to do mine on this guy but can't remember his name or find the thread.
Thanks in advance.
also last question would the freeport material be of any use in this adventure, we have stormwrack but if this is a very nautaical themed adventure we can use some advice.
Just read this on a movie site and I reread it to be sure but Jonny depp is playing tonto.
Pirates of the Caribbean helmer Gore Verbinski and star Johnny Depp are reuniting for a new Disney feature film adaptation of the vintage radio property The Lone Ranger. Pirates producer Jerry Bruckheimer will oversee the new Lone Ranger film, which will star Johnny Depp, who will portray the masked man’s Indian sidekick Tonto
Now mind you maybe I am more racist than I thought but c'mon people can't they find a good looking YOUNG native american to reprise the silverheels role?
Then again it's disney so they can pretty much do anything I guess.
Ok I'll try to be as brief as possible.
Setting 3.5 Forgotten Realms.
Classes, human rogue/swashbuckler,gnome wizard,dwarf paladin, human druid(me).
The situation: We as a group are hired to complete X mission, we get double crossed by the noble and beaten to a pulp. Wake up in a temple of Cyric(CE god of murder,lies,illusions)
Long story short we got back safe and sound and now we have found a mysterious map that will lead us on to the next part of the adventure.
My dilemma is: As a charecter and as a player that does like to roleplay and think in charecter MY duty and the paladins duty is rather clear.
Should I just go along with what the DM has planned and ignore this obvious violation of my oath and the paladins duty IF we leave it alone OR should I request the DM flesh out what was supposed to be nothing more than a adventure hook before starting the "real" adventure?
I don't want to "over roleplay" something but I also don't want an alignment hit or loss of druid powers for failing to exact Silvanuses vengance on these despoilers of the forest.
I saw the upcomeing release and was really looking forward to it until I saw they had left out a major founding member.
Wonder Girl should have been in the starting line up but just like in the teen titans got cut.
Are they afraid of the superboy/ wonder girl romance or is it the fact that they don't want a woman that can throw a truck around to give superboy any competion.
OK done ranting.
ok folks I don't know if this is old news or what but I have just encountered a new virus called ThinkPoint.
Sorry if this is the wrong forum but I didn't want anyone here to get hit when a little warning goes along way. Be warned this virus is nasty.
I just read from goodle that arizona is trying to pass legislation to deny anchor babies their rights as U.S.Citizens.
While their hearts may be in the right place in attempting to stop the flow of ILLEGAL immagrents this is NOT the right way to do it.
I am a full supporter of arizona's previous laws that mirrored federal law concerning ILLEGAL immigration but this I will vehimatly oppose.
Ok folks my D.M. is running us through a home brew adventure cause we have already run through all other eberron adventures.
During the course of the session we found about 8 deactivated warforged. My charecter hates leaving things to go to waste so I was going to animate them as undead zombies.
When the DM askes so you've had 4 months of downtime to make stuff or do whatever what do you tell him.
What do you other gamers come up with for PC downtime?
I just wanna bounce an idea off the community before I present it to my DM and he thinks I've hit the gameing crack pipe too hard again.
Feat: Expanded class weapon.
This idea came to me after seeing the racial weapon feat and realizing humans didnt have any racial weapons plus wanting to have my druid be able to use a big large size two handed oak club but according to the list he's not proficient and suffers -4 penalties because of it.
This thread is is for 3.5 only although I suppose it could relate to any edition.
I'm wondering if MY group is the only one that suffers from charecters that are supposed to have a specific job/skill within the group and DON'T!
My prime example is a cleric with no knowlegde religion or a druid that has no ranks in knowledge nature. Mages that have no knowledge arcana or rouges that cant bluff.
Has anyone else encountered charecters like this?
I am a player in the age of worms adventure game my current DM is running.
My question is would these feats have any impact on the game? Can I use them to progress the story in a positve manner or would they be wasted?
As a unrelated question are the faithful of vecna open about their faith or not? My wizard is a follower of the lich lord and I need to know if the other churches in the area of diamond lake are able to do anything to me or not? I'm used to the realms where anything goes and dont know greyhawk.
We are starting a new campaign(Age of Worms) in a world(greyhawk) we have never played in and my DM is already having fits because of what we as players are trying to get away with.
Jason, I appreciate all your efforts and time. I know you like running but our hack and slash evil minded, whats role-play group is not the easiest to deal with so thanks for doing it.
Can somebody please tell me all the source books that were used in the campaign because thats all my DM is allowing us to pull from.
I am playing a cleric in a newbie GM's game.
I got into a chat with a fellow player and he was wondering how both our charecters had the same strength but my cleric was carring 140lbs as a light load with a 15 str. score.
The question is, As either players or DM in the 3.5 version what feats are considered "must have" for what type of charecters.
OK heres my situation. I am not the DM for the current adventure but we havnt played it in over three months because of work schedule conflicts.
I was hopeing someone could help me find a fan site for ebberon 3.5. We have just gone back to that system and are really excited about it but I want all the information I can find. I know and have fully explored the wizards website and archives but can anyone help with fan based or 3rd party sites?
Hi all. I would like some ideas that I can present to my DM or at least give him the link to here about ideas for a two person adventure.
I am playing a Half-orc rouge with the feats spell casting prodigy, collegiate wizard and dragon mark least at 1st levl. My stats are str18,dex 9,con17(18@4th)Int 16(prodigy gives me a +2 bump so its 18 for all spell casting)wis 9 and cha 11. I know the build seems crazy but I only cheery picked the rouge for the skills at 1st lvl, I personally would never play one as a class. I am going straight mage from 2nd lvl on but I need skills like spot, search and appraise as a mage. I picked the feats I did because two of them can ONLY be taken at first level.
First let me start off by saying this is not an edition war, those things never made sense to me. Nor is this going to be a I hate WoTC/Hasbro or any other company for any sacred cows that may or may not have been slaughtered.
If you could bring back or change any thing about any edition what would it be and why?
I'll start by saying I would keep the rules of 3/3.5 for everything else but I would implement the rules of second for the spells and overall feel of magic. The reason is I personally feel that having item creation feats you somehow cheapen the wonder of the magic items. My main example here is that under second you have to wait until your caster was at least 7th lvl for priests and 9th lvl for mages before you could even begin to brew potions. Then you got other scrolls at 10th and finally you could make all items by 12th. No feats needed you just could because you had reached "that" level of power. Now with potions only going to 3rd lvl spells it's never worth it to waste a feat when their simply cheaper to buy.
I guess my companys tag line would be "3rd edition mechaniscs with second edition feel". No infrimgment intended to necro games.
What changes would you make?
Here's why I ask.
I was excited about pathfinder but after what they did to the cleric and the nerfed druid I dont care any more.
My idea is simple. I want to have the current 3/3.5 rules with all the feats and what not's in it but I want to give the spellcasters back their power. I am a firm beliver in the save-or-die type spell.
Nothing else from previous editions will be used no "THAC0" or lvl limits on the short ineffectual races. The clerics will use the chart based on hit dice to determine turning effects and like in first and second they can also turn deamons and devils. I dont allow paladins in my campaigns so the rule of evil clerics turning paladins would apply but I stopped it because of the no pally rule.
I was wondering if anyone else had tried this type of game and what the results were like. I would value CONSTRUCTIVE,NON INSULTING critisim if someone else has tried this before.
I want to see the educated classes, wizard &cleric, brought up to at least 4 skill points + Int bonus per lvl.
My solution is simple. DO NOT penalize the other classes simply make the 2+int. go away for all(except peasant or adept) and increase the minimum to 4+int. for all.
To sneaksy I understand that I took your comment the wrong way and I wanted you to know that before the thread was stopped I gladly accepted your apology because I was just as much at fault for taking it the wrong way instead of asking you first.
Second Again I agree with you that everybody should have the kind of game they want and I never meant to say otherwise but MY PERSONAL Opinion is that spellcasters are being robed of their flavor the more they are being underpowered.
To any Paizo type person that reads this I hated to have to start a new thread but I couldn't continue the previous thread and I didn't want sneaksy to think that I was being rude and not accepting his apology and be able to make one of my own.
That said on to the game.
I just want to rant for a quick moment about how sick I am of Politically correct D&D.
I started this thread because I wanted a forum where people could express the positive things they like about the wizard/universalist. I have made a separate thread so that it would not seem as though I am picking on or being impolite to anyone else on their thread.