Has there been any clarification on how Vital Strike works with weapons that can fire two projectiles as a single attack action?
The Double Musket/Pistol/Crossbow are all capable of making two separate attacks with a single simultaneous action. Are the damage die for both attacks increased by Vital Strike, or just one?
So, I'm planning on putting together a Gunslinger (Pistolero)/ Duelist for PFS. I've got the concept pretty firmly in mind but I'm having a little trouble deciding on my exact stat distribution and feat selections.
I was planning on choosing elf as my race and taking the Envoy and Fleet-footed alternate racial traits.
How important is it for me to pump Wisdom? I know I'll need at least a bit for grit but I want to keep my INT fairly high too for skills and to better utilize some of my duelist abilities.
I figure my 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 5th level abilities are probably locked in to Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Rapid Reload, and Rapid Shot, but what are the best feats to take from their for a character using a single one-handed firearm? I assume Deft Shootist and Deadly Aim are probably must-haves, is there anything else that would complement the build?
The Multiattack entry for both Animal companions and Eidolons reads as follows:
"Multiattack: An eidolon/animal companion gains Multiattack as a bonus feat if it has 3 or more natural attacks and does not already have that feat. If it does not have the requisite 3 or more natural attacks (or it is reduced to less than 3 attacks), the eidolon/animal companion instead gains a second attack with one of its natural weapons, albeit at a –5 penalty. If the eidolon later gains 3 or more natural attacks, it loses this additional attack and instead gains Multiattack. "
Multiattack changes the secondary attack penalty from –5 to –2. Very few animal companions actually use secondary weapons with primary weapons, so that –5 is almost never an issue, and therefore Multiattack is almost never needed.
For example, the level 12 small cat in the preview has bite/claw/claw... but those are all primary attacks, so all of them are at +0/+0/+0 (plus BAB and Strength and Weapon Focus), so Multiattack does absolutely nothing for the animal. Instead, it uses the "gain an iterative attack for one of those weapons" option, which is why its bite attack has a slash and a second attack bonus...
Sean's response seems fairly straightforward, but doesn't seem to match up to the wording of the actual ability. That's cool, these things happen, and it's awesome to have devs who come in and clarify things like this so we can strain RAI from the RAW.
My main question then would be:
Would this same ruling apply to Eidolon's as well since the wording is identical?
And by "Natural attacks" is it referring to actual attacks I might make during a full attack sequence, or "natural attack forms like claws/bite/talons?
For example, If I gain an additional attack with my natural weapon (claws) would I have three claw attacks after gaining Multi-attack? 4?
There's another thread discussing how this works for Animal Companions but since it bears on the Eidolon as well I thought I might bring it up again here.
Quick question everyone, I'm feeling like I should know the answer to this but it just isn't coming to me. The Viking Fighter archetype from People of the North Has an ability called shield defense that replaces Armor Training. Does this only replace the first instance of Armor Training, allowing him to gain the ability as normal when he'd normally get Armor Training 2, or does it replace the ability completely?
I'm thinking it's the first one since his Berserker ability clearly states that it replaces Weapon Training 1,2,3, and 4, but just wanted to get some clarification.
Thanks!
So quick question: Familiars gain the ability
"Deliver Touch Spells (Su): If the master is 3rd level or higher, a familiar can deliver touch spells for him. If the master and the familiar are in contact at the time the master casts a touch spell, he can designate his familiar as the “toucher.” The familiar can then deliver the touch spell just as the master would. As usual, if the master casts another spell before the touch is delivered, the touch spell dissipates."
If a familiar is delivering a spell like Vampiric Touch via this ability, does the familiar gain the temporary hit points, or its master? My assumption would be that the master gains the benefits since the familiar is delivering the spell for him, but I wanted to make sure I was reading that right.
I had always assumed that "directly toward" meant "in a straight line", but the discussion came up at a PFS table between a player and GM that as long as each step brings you closer to your opponent you are still moving "directly toward" your opponent. This could potentially allow for some minor zig-zagging during a charge. The GM actually allowed the movement to occur.
Is this actually correct? Unfortunately it is hard to lay out a diagram of possible intended movement in this format...
And wouldn't the line stating " If any line from your starting space to the ending space passes through a square that blocks movement, slows movement, or contains a creature (even an ally), you can't charge" prevent you from charging around blocking terrain even if moving diagonally off a straight line were a legal movement?
So there seems to be some rules support limiting the spells you can cast in a round. How does this interact with optional systems like Hero Points? Since the ability makes a specific exception for spells cast as a swift action, are there any builds or abilities outside of the Hero Point and Mythic optional systems that would actually be impacted by this?
So the Guided Weapon Property says:
"A weapon with the guided property allows its wielder to use his instinct when striking blows with it. Attacks from a guided weapon generally don’t strike hard, but they strike at precisely the right moment to maximize damage if in the hands of a particularly wise wielder. A character who attacks with a guided weapon modifies his attack rolls and weapon damage rolls with his Wisdom modifier, not his Strength modifier.
This modifier to damage is not adjusted for two-handed weapons or off-hand weapons—it always remains equal to the wielder’s Wisdom modifier. A guided weapon may be wielded as a normal weapon, using Strength to modify attack and damage rolls, but this goes against the weapon’s nature and imparts a –2 penalty on all attack rolls made in this manner."
Emphasis mine.
It seems clear to me that this property should only be replacing Strength based attack and damage rolls but I've noticed some people thinking it should replace all attack rolls (even DEX based ones for ranged attacks). How do other people read and adjudicate this ability?
Is there any way to find out what chronicles unlock certain races, like the dhampir and the nagaji? Are these special event specific chronicles, or are they ones that any player can obtain if the right scenario is run at their local PFS group?
So, I'm putting together a character for a one-off and I'm figuring I'll play a Druid with a Giant Wasp Animal Companion and take levels of fighter to grab the Mounted Combat and Spirited Charge feats. My questions are:
1) Can a druid wield a lance without violating their restrictions on using metal weapons?
2)Is there any really obvious reason why this wouldn't work?
3) Since I'm planning on using Mounted Combat, Wildshape is not going to be extremely useful for me. Are there any druid archetypes that give up Wildshape that would work well with this build?
4) Is there a better combo than druid/fighter to make a giant wasp riding combatant?
Hello All!
I was wondering if anyone knew if the Devs had ever weighed in on this one:
Qinggong monk geives you a list of alternate abilities that can replace class features. Normally, you cannot take an archetype that alters or replaces the same class feature as another archetype. Does giving you the option of taking other abilities qualify as altering them? Does Qinggong stack with almost everything, or almost nothing?
So, I've heard tales of ranged paladins and how gnarly they can be, so I'm taking a stab at building one myself for PFS play.
My thoughts so far were to take the Divine Hunter archetype and the Musetouched (not to be confused with Moustached) variant Aasimar, with the Deathless Spirit Alternate Racial Trait.
Since I'm going ranged and have given up Heavy Armor, I figured for Stats I could go:
STR 10
DEX 18 (16+2 racial)
CON 10
INT 10
WIS 10
CHA 18 (16+2 racial)
My thoughts on traits so far were Deft Dodger, and Bralani's Step, though Bralani's Step I chose as much for flavor as actual mechanical value. I get Precise Shot as a bonus feat, so I figure Point Blank Shot as my level one feat?
I'm not entirely sure where to go from here. I'm assuming Rapid Shot next? Is there a better feat chain to take with this character? Your input is appreciated.
Does this mean that non Zen Archer monks apply their STR bonus to damage when flurrying with ranged weapons?
I was just thinking how amusing it would be to have a Sohei/Weapon Master/Pistolero/Duelist who gets to add their STR, DEX, and INT to damage for all of their attack rolls.
Tactician is actually a terrible ability for a straight cavalier. It's much better for a fighter or other class that multiclasses into cavalier at higher levels.
Tactician:
Tactician (Ex): At 1st level, a cavalier receives a teamwork feat as a bonus feat. He must meet the prerequisites for this feat. As a standard action, the cavalier can grant this feat to all allies within 30 feet who can see and hear him. Allies retain the use of this bonus feat for 3 rounds plus 1 round for every two levels the cavalier possesses. Allies do not need to meet the prerequisites of these bonus feats. The cavalier can use this ability once per day at 1st level, plus one additional time per day at 5th level and for every 5 levels thereafter.
Tacticion only works with the bonus feat you took with the ability, meaning it only works with a Teamwork feat that you qualified for at level 1 if you're playing a straight cavalier. It's much more effective if you've taken 10 levels of fighter and then dip cavalier to take Coordinated Charge or a similarly powerful feat. Shouldn't there be the option to retrain this feat or swap the Tactician ability to one of your other bonus feats?
Considering that one of Paizo's goals with Pathfinder was to support single-class characters, it's weird to have an ability that's actually better for other classes to dip into than it is for the base class to have.
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How does Vital Strike work with Spirited Charge and a lance when used by a cavalier on his mount? Remember, a mounted cavalier can still attack as a standard action while gaining the benefits of his mounts charge. Being able to hit for x6 damage (or x12 with Greater Vital Strike) at your full BAB and then use your move action to switch to a non-reach weapon, draw a potion, or what have you is a worthwhile opening tactic and actually makes the feat chain fairly potent, even for a character who otherwise might have little use for it.
So in this thread a little digging uncovered that the rules for Inquisitions located in Ultimate Combat completely contradict the rules for Inquisitions located in Ultimate Magic. Namely, UC says Inquisitions can only be taken by Inquisitors, while UM says they can be taken by any class that grants a domain, they're just not really intended for them. Has there been any clarification made on which of these is correct?
So I picked up the Cerulean Seas 3pp material and it is an amazing supplement. If you have any interest in running aquatic campaigns this thing is a must have. In addition to the great rulesets for aquatic combat, beautiful illustrations, and fantastic plaer races, they have a gem that is awesome to behold.
It's a player class called the Mariner. They say it was intended to fill the ranger niche in an aquatic setting, but what you really have is a mobility based fighter that really, really works. While it does have some strong parallels to the ranger, what I really see in the build is something the monk could, and should, have been. It's a martial class that is highly incentivised to use attacks like Spring Attack and abilities like Mobility, coupled with Fast Movement and an array of movement based maneuvers.
Has anyone else looked at this supplement? Any thoughts?
So, I just picked up the Terah materials and one of my players is very interested in playing the Spark Energeticist.
One of the Spark's high level abilities allows them to create a weapon made out of positive energy. His question is, would a positive energy weapon heal living creatures and damage undead struck by it? This seems to make sense to me, but I feel like there were rules for this in 3.5 and I can't find anything in Pathfinder or the Terah materials.
I'm not sure if this should be in the rules forum, but since it's 3PP material I thought I'd start here.
So, my friend and I are building a pair of 5th level characters that we were intending to have complement each other as a pair of melee brutes. Both characters will be 5th level half-orcs. He'll be playing an Inquisitor (Anger Inquisition)3 / Barbarian 2, and I'll be playing a Sorcerer (Orc Bloodline)5.
One of the combos we're hoping to use is to have him take Amplified Rage, and for me to take Sympathetic Rage, with both of us taking Warleader's Rage as our 5th level feats. Here's the feats in question:
Amplified Rage:
Amplified Rage (Teamwork)
When adjacent to other raging allies, your rages become even more powerful.
Prerequisites: Half-orc or orc, rage class feature.
Benefit: Whenever you are raging and adjacent to a raging ally who also has this feat or flanking the same opponent as a raging ally with this feat, your morale bonuses to Strength and Constitution increase by +4. This feat does not stack with itself (you only gain this bonus from one qualifying ally, regardless of how many are adjacent to you).
Sympathetic Rage:
Sympathetic Rage (Combat)
Seeing an ally enter a rage causes you to enter a rage-like state.
Prerequisites: Half-orc or orc, non-lawful.
Benefit: Whenever you are adjacent to an ally who is raging, you may choose to enter a similar but less powerful rage as a free action on your turn. This weaker rage gives you all the benefits and penalties of a rage, except your morale bonus to Strength and Constitution is only +2. There is no limit to how long you can rage, as long as you remain adjacent to a raging ally (for example, you could take a 5-foot step away from one raging ally toward another raging ally and maintain your rage). As with a barbarian’s rage, when this weaker rage ends, you are fatigued.
Warleader's Rage allows the Sympathetic Rage and Amplified Rage effects to persist as long as we're within 30 ft of each other.
Now my two questions are:
1) If my friend rages and triggers my Sympathetic Rage, could that, plus his Solo Tactics ability, trigger his Amplified Rage? I'm reading that yes, it does, but thought I'd get a consensus.
2)Would Amplified Rage work in conjunction with an Urban Barbarian's Controlled Rage?
Controlled Rage:
Controlled Rage (Ex)
When an urban barbarian rages, instead of making a normal rage she may apply a +4 morale bonus to her Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution. This bonus increases to +6 when she gains greater rage and +8 when she gains mighty rage. She may apply the full bonus to one ability score or may split the bonus between several scores in increments of +2. When using a controlled rage, an urban barbarian gains no bonus on Will saves, takes no penalties to AC, and can still use Intelligence-, Dexterity-, and Charisma-based skills. This ability otherwise follows the normal rules for rage.
So, the Inquisitor gains the Solo Tactics ability:
Solo Tactics:
Solo Tactics (Ex): At 3rd level, all of the inquisitor's allies are treated as if they possessed the same teamwork feats as the inquisitor for the purpose of determining whether the inquisitor receives a bonus from her teamwork feats. Her allies do not receive any bonuses from these feats unless they actually possess the feats themselves. The allies' positioning and actions must still meet the prerequisites listed in the teamwork feat for the inquisitor to receive the listed bonus.
and the Broken Wing Gambit feat reads:
Broken Wing Gambit:
Broken Wing Gambit (Combat, Teamwork)
You feign weakness, making yourself a tempting and distracting target.
Prerequisite: Bluff 5 ranks.
Benefit: Whenever you make a melee attack and hit your opponent, you can use a free action to grant that opponent a +2 bonus on attack and damage rolls against you until the end of your next turn or until your opponent attacks you, whichever happens first. If that opponent attacks you with this bonus, it provokes attacks of opportunity from your allies who have this feat.
Would an Inquisitor using this feat give allies without it the option to make an AoO if they don't have the feat?
My first instinct was no, but the wording was hazy enough that I thought I'd get a consensus. My player was arguing that having an ally he could treat as having the feat was enough to trigger the Inquisitor's ability to grant them AoO by using the feat, I'm of the opinion that the phrase "Her allies do not receive any bonuses from these feats unless they actually possess the feats themselves." means that the allies also have to have Broken Wing Gambit to make an AoO.
So, I was thinking about making an Aasimar Battle Oracle and stacking on a few natural attacks (wing buffets, maybe a claw attack, possibly a bite) and at first I thought the Wolfscarred Face curse might be pretty sweet with the bite attack that improves by level. But that 20% spell failure chance is pretty much permanent unless you take the Silent Spell metamagic feat and cast all your spells at +1 caster level.
Has anyone come up with an Oracle build that actually has a reasonable chance of being effective with this curse? Are there any good spells that don't have verbal components?
Benefit: When you use the Two-Weapon Fighting feat while wielding a melee weapon and a crossbow or firearm, your attacks with the crossbow or firearm provoke no attacks of opportunity from foes that you threaten with your melee weapon.
Normal: Making a ranged attack provokes attacks of opportunity.
I'm playing a ratfolk gulch gunner who occasionally fights with a boarding axe in one hand and pistol in the other. The Gulch Gunner gives you the mechanic to regain grit the first time you provoke an opportunity for firing a ranged weapon in melee each round. Can I choose to not utilize Sword and Pistol for the first attack in a sequence, but then gain its benefit for my subsequent iterative attacks?
One of my players was wanting to build a barbarian around this concept he read on the forums for RageLancePounce, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't really work (although maybe he's missing something). Can you help me clarify this? The problems I see are:
1)Pounce applies when you charge, but the bonus damage the lance gets only applies when you are mounted. So if you are using Pounce, you wouldn't get your bonus damage from the lance.
2)Somewhat in conjunction with the first point, it doesn't seem like Pounce would give you a full attack while your mount is charging, you would need Mounted Skirmisher.
3) The bonus damage only applies to the first attack in the charge, even if you have the ability to make iterative attacks.
So what benefit would there really be here? Pounce doesn't give any special bonus to the lance, and while Raging might boost your strength, you're not going to have much survivability in your mount... Right?
In another thread, there was a discussion involving a cleric or druid's spontaneous casting ability and how it only applied to that classes spells. Since the wording is nearly identical between that and the Spellslinger as far as the interaction between cost and result (i.e. sacrifice spell of level x, gain y result) what is the difference? Or could you have a cleric with spontaneous casting convert Wizard slots into heal spells the same way a Spellslinger can convert cleric spells into gun blasts? Or is it incorrect that a Spellslinger can convert spells from another class with his Mage Bullets ability?
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action. When doing so he may make one additional attack using any combination of unarmed strikes or attacks with a special monk weapon (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, and siangham) as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat). For the purpose of these attacks, the monk's base attack bonus from his monk class levels is equal to his monk level. For all other purposes, such as qualifying for a feat or a prestige class, the monk uses his normal base attack bonus.
At 8th level, the monk can make two additional attacks when he uses flurry of blows, as if using Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).
At 15th level, the monk can make three additional attacks using flurry of blows, as if using Greater Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).
A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands. A monk may substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of a flurry of blows. A monk cannot use any weapon other than an unarmed strike or a special monk weapon as part of a flurry of blows. A monk with natural weapons cannot use such weapons as part of a flurry of blows, nor can he make natural attacks in addition to his flurry of blows attacks.
and the sohei gains the ability to use FoB with a list of selected weapons via this ability:
class ability:
Weapon Training (Ex): At 6th level, a sohei gains weapon training in one of the following weapon groups, as the fighter class feature: bows, crossbows, monk weapons, polearms, spears, or thrown weapons. He may select an additional group of weapons for every six levels after 6th, to a maximum of three at 18th level. A sohei may use flurry of blows and ki strike with any weapon in which he has weapon training. This ability replaces purity of body, diamond body, quivering palm, timeless body, and tongue of sun and moon.
Would this technically allow a sohei to apply his strength bonus to his attacks with a bow? I know it's pretty cheese, was just curious if RAW means what I think it does.
Quick question guys:
If one of my players is running a Half-Orc Shapeshifter Ranger with the Toothy racial trait and the Aspect Of the Beast (Claws of the Beast) feat, and wants to wield a manufactured weapon in his main hand, what should his full attack look like when he makes a full attack?
For example,say he's level 6. If he has a scimitar in one hand and wants to full attack with his free claw and bite, is his attack (unmodified) +6/+1 (scimitar), +1 (claw), and +1 (bite)? Or does he have to exchange his iterative attacks for his natural attacks?
Can anyone link the rules for this?
Thanks all!
I was sitting down to work on a character that was originally going to be a Zen Archer, but after looking over the Sohei a little more closely, it actually seemed like a better choice since we will be starting this campaign at 7th level. One of my main questions was: A Zen Archer specifically cannot use Rapid Shot in conjunction with Flurry of Blows, but the Sohei does not appear to have any such restriction. Can the Sohei Rapid Shot and Flurry together?
Knowing this makes a pretty large difference between which archetype fits best, and it will affect where I distribute my stats and what feat chains I take.
So, as a little roleplaying exercise, when my group starts a new game we try to introduce our characters without using any of the words on our character sheet. Saying things like "I'm a dwarven fighter" are totally off limits. You'd have to say something like "I'm a stocky, bearded axe wielder whose people live in the mountains of....." and things to that effect. During our current campaign, one of my players was playing an elven Sohei who took Weapon Training with the bow. During our most recent encounter, she had a series of misfortunate events lead her to a situation where she had an unconcious mount, a sundered bow, and was being backed into a corner by a pair of manticore. When she leapt at the manticore and began unleashing a flurry of unarmed strikes, the rest of the party members asked her why she'd decided to have her ranger take unarmed strike instead of using the feat for Quick Draw and using a rapier. We had made it to level 9 with the entire party thinking she was a ranger. Between always having a mount, using her "mystical" abilities to give said mount various bonuses, and the whole bow thing, everyone had come to the natural conclusion that she was an (albeit somewhat slow-starting initially) elven ranger.
What other Archetypes look almost nothing like the class that spawned them? Any Favorites?
So, I've been digging around in all the books I have available, and I was wondering, does anyone know of any feats that allow you to make combat maneuvers like Disarm, Sunder, or Trip with a ranged weapon? I know 3.5 had feats that would allow you to do this, but I can't find anything in any of the Pathfinder books. Do they just not exist?
The closest thing I can find is the Undine racial feat that allows them to use hydraulic push for a few specific maneuvers.
The Drunken Brute archetype for the barbarian gives you the ability to drink a potion or a tankard of ale or similar quantity of alcohol as a move action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity.
In combat, is it two move actions to use this ability to drink from a waterskin, i.e. one for the drink and one for "drawing" the waterskin, or is it a single move action to do both allowing me to still take a standard action to attack?
As far as I can tell, RAW it is two move actions, but they aren't very specific on what qualifies as a "stowed" item. Since preparing spell components is a free action, logic would suggest that taking the water skin hanging at your hip and raising it to your mouth would be about equivalent.
So, under the monk unarmed strike it states "A monk's unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons."
I had assumed this to mean that a monk could enchant his unarmed attacks the same way a fighter might enchant his longsword. Does anyone know if a dev or someone like JJ has weighed in on this? It can make a fairly substantial difference in the Monk's ability to stay on track for accuracy and such compared to other melee classes.
As a note, I know it seems a little ridiculous on the surface, but I always pictured it as intricate tattooing or magical energy being infused directly into the monk's ki.
