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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Really, that's the best you've got?
I didn't realize we were having a competition.
For reference, the alternatives were going "Objection your honour, relevance?" Or a long tirade about the bombing of Copenhagen in 1807, ending on a snarky "good guy??"
So, to answer your question: Yes, that was the best I got. And I thought you were better than this, too. Guess it's a day for disappointment!
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Oh, someone else in the history of the world has been a douche, I guess that makes it alright then!
Kirth Gersen wrote:
The important thing to remember, though, is that the whole country was caught up in a massive Satanism scare at the time
Hm, I don't remember that at all. Of course, I didn't really play in the 70s and 80s, I only got my eyes up for roleplaying games when I inherited my sister's red-box in, like, 1990 or something so if anyone grew up with that it'd be her.
Still, it wasn't really a thing at all, as far as I recall. Those who knew what roleplaying games were at all (read: parents of roleplayers who cared what their kids got up to) saw it mostly as a craze that prompted their kids to learn English and spend all day pouring over dictionaries and discuss what the heck a "hobgoblin" is (hint: An oxford's dictionary is exceedingly unhelpful with D&D terms :p), so generally not a bad thing.
For everyone else, I don't think they were even aware of what it was or that it might be an "issue". There was the occasional thing on TV, but I don't remember details. It was probably just foreigners being crazy foreigners. ;)
Looks neat. Is he the guy from the latest Captain America movie?
Also, how does taking over as Captain America work? Is it just costume + name + bring-your-own-powers-to-work-day? Or do they have spare supersoldier serum lying around?
I believe that in the Norse myths, he's still the God of Thunder (and other polios) even without Mjolnir, as he was before he received the weapon. To be fair, he was also described as red haired and red bearded, and Marvel doesn't have him married to Sif anymore or fathering Thrúd, Módi, or Magni... or a lot of other things.
Yeah, I guess this is one of the main disconnects between Thor and MarvelThor.
Marvel can obviously do whatever the heck they want. That doesn't make it an inherently good idea. :p
I'm glad you like the change, but could we dial down the sniping of other posters? No sense descending to those levels just because you disagree with them.
I think it's less of an issue for older folk. Once you get past the age of 30 you're more likely to have a good concept of who you are and have better tools to do reexamination internally.
Enh. I guess. When I was a kid I hated those Spielberg movies where a bunch of kids were the heroes. Maybe I'm an odd duck.
Anyway, that was kinda my point. I don't think I've ever really felt a 'need to feel represented', and I think that's okay. It means they can represent someone else who needs it more, and I can still enjoy the story (assuming it doesn't suck. ;) )
Heh. If it hadn't been for the thread/article title, I don't think I'd have noticed anything "wrong" about that lineup.
The article doesn't seem to go into detail about who these people are (I admit, I skimmed a bit), but none of them seems to represent me (they all look so young!) And that's okay, I don't really need to feel represented to enjoy a good story.
"When we deny women and girls representation, we put them in ever smaller boxes," she wrote. "And when we limit their potential, we limit the potential of our culture as a whole. When we limit the contributions of half our society, we cut our potential in two."
I... uh, okay, this is me talking from a "didn't really grow up with these comic books" perspective, but maybe that's giving comic books slightly more importance than they really deserve. It's just comic books. I'm pretty sure Marvel isn't the last line of defense against cultural decay, or something. :p
Would it be nice with a broader representation of women in comic books? Absolutely! Is it going to destroy our cultural basis that girls have to pick between She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel and femThor? Probably not.
But I get that I'm a weirdo, so feel free to ignore!
Slight tangent: Also, that picture of Captain Marvel? *swoons*
Well the guys griping an complaining about the black Nick Fury replacing the White nick fury in the 616 Marvel universe on the message boards that I frequent about a year or two ago were figments of my imagination?
Nah, I'm sure they were not. I'd be surprised if there were not idiots in any group of people. But that wasn't the question you answered...
Freehold DM wrote:
wha? You must have been in another internet or comic book store. The shaft jokes were all over the place.
You should reread the original question.
I'll sum it up for convenience:
Q: Does the people who dislike this also hate a black Nick Fury?
Easily demonstrated to be false, as I think femThor is a silly gimmick, while having absolutely no issue with a black Nick Fury (or Heimdal for that matter). Heck, if the alternative is David Hasselhoff, I'd prefer every comic book character to be black.
Given how neither of those changes your name or makes you a god of something when you put them on then yes, the comparison is equally apt.
I get the complaint, it just misses the point. Which was closer to: haha, norse mythology is like the precursor to the D&D christmas tree effect. :p
This is, I think, the most important point. I mean, they could take the idea in a good direction, or a stupid direction. But the only thing that has been presented so far is "omg Thor is a woman now!" which is, hopefully, not the full story.
Blondie isn't being turned into a woman. (although that HAS happened in the comics) There actually is a different person, possibly Sif? getting both the hammer, powers, and the name of Thor. That's happened to. A stuntman once was found worthy and he was given Thor's mythological belt and glove of strength to help him wield Mjolnir.
In Pathfinder terms, that's like stealing a fighter's +2 sword and then you become that fighter. I don't care how you twist it, it's silly. :p
There are ways that Thor could pass on the torch, as it were, (and preferably to someone a little less White Power) but going "oh yeah and Thor is a chick now" isn't the best way.
Oh. The belt and gloves are a thing in Marvel too?
I remember a Dark Heresy game a while back. The group got themselves into some hot water, surrounded by evil cultists they are brought before the cultist leader who just wants a pleasant chat. He promises to let us go, on a few conditions.
It's all quite civil, really.
Also, all the PCs are nervously eying my Adepta Sororitas, because really, this is a "do as he say or die" situation. So I just smile politely to the GM and say: "I shoot him."
Things went to hell quite fast, after that.
I'm working on making her a more... 'constructive' character. :)
(incidentally, all the PCs survived more or less intact. In unrelated news, flamers are <3).
I don't know what it is about Dark Heresy, but I find it very easy to just not care about the consequences and just do what my character would do. This would never have happened in a D&D game.
Captain Marvel was at least a Marvel creation and not a ripoff from ancient mythology with a lot of stories existing that Marvel had no part of.
This is how I imagine femThor. :p
Also, I wouldn't really consider MarvelThor to be a ripoff of the Thor from mythology. They don't even have hair colour in common. This is also why I don't really have much of a say in this. I could go "...but the hammer doesn't work like that" except, you know, I have no idea if it does for MarvelThor.
Mythologically speaking, I could see a plot go something like "Thor has gone missing! While the gods' squabble and waste time discussing what to do about it, Thor's daughter takes matters into her own hands, claim the mantle of God of Thunder and goes to search for her father." (Possible edited to be less cliché, but this is a comic book we're talking about).
Incidentally, this was also roughly the entire meta-plot of City of Heroes. :)
I made the mistake of making my first character (for multiplayer) a Lone Wolf, and have had a really hard time playing anything else, since then. Those perks are just so useful!
Is archery working out for you? It kinda leaves me with the same impression as scoundrel melee: it doesn't seem terrible good against undead, and even the specialty arrows still comes with the baggage of having to find/make/collect those arrows and worry about bow durability, that casters just don't have to worry about (while also blowing everything to heck).
In my multiplayer game, we're a caster/archer duo and we're just worlds apart.
You mean who the new Goddess of Thunder is.
That was my first thought, but at this point I'll just accept that I don't 'get' Marvel's "Thor" at all, so taking him (her) further away from the mythology he's based on might make it less confusing for those of us who read norse mythology long before we heard about Marvel. Which is a good thing.
"Thor is a woman!" is still a silly statement, But I won't even begin to guess whether that's how the hammer works in Marvel "Thor".
That said, I'm all for super-strong heroines, so it could be a very interesting character. Especially if she turns out to be "a wielder of Mjolnir" and not "literally Thor".
(but now that they are changing the shape of Thor's boobs, how about changing the "brick on a stick" look for Mjolnir too? That bothers me much more than Thor's testosterone levels. :p)
I find it... difficult to play a melee-focused scoundrel type character. I like the benefits of focusing on Dexterity over Strength, but the actual in game difference seems to be a character that hits for a few points of damage eight times every turn, vs. a guy who oneshots roughly everything everywhere.
The main problem is that almost everything you fight are undead, and daggers are doing squat against skeletons, and your bleed/poison attacks aren't particular handy either.
I've played three or four groups to level 7 by now, and I still don't have a formula for a scoundrel-style melee guy that I feel works.
On the flipside, a full-caster elementalist-style guy works wonderfully well.
I have this tendency to always play the same character, and when I finally notice I go out of my way to make the next one markedly different from my usual trend (and thus starting a new trend). It's not something I do on purpose, and I do prefer my characters to be different... I guess I'm just wired that way.
Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal wrote:
Just as a heads up, I believe there is a stand-alone project that gives you access to the character creation, and makes you able to run around the game zones. Mind, there's no game attached, but if you enjoyed the character creation, that's still somewhat possible to play around with. I believe the project is called Titan Icon, if you google that you should be able to find instructions for how to set it up.
(I have no direct experience with Icon, alas, but thought I'd mention it.)
I realize that you're just trying to pick a fight (which is, imho, extremely poor taste, but whatev) but people totally have a right to boycot NCSoft for whatever reason they choose.
It's a good idea to just dive in... there's a lot of options, and you're not really tied to any choice (the classes are more guidelines than actual rules, for instance) so it's hard for anyone to tell you what you'll enjoy.
I'm not very far into the game, but my advice would be to not worry about it too much. Pick two characters that sounds like they might be fun, and go explore. And steal all the paintings you can. ;)
Oh you can go way cheesier than that, in this part. :) Since the golems only activate if you loot the chests or attack them... you can just calmly murder each of the small golems one at a time.
Also, I think one of the weapons you loot in that room is a +3 axe or a giantbane hammer or something? I vaguely recall that in Korgan's hands it worked wonders to dispatch the big golem.
Now THAT's the football we all know and love. Not this billion-goals-every-game abomination this World Cup was threatening to turn into. ;)
An entirely uninteresting spectacle... I was rooting for the Netherlands, so I guess it kinda sucks that they lost the rock-paper-scissors contest at the end, but Argentina has actually done well (in an incredible boring way) this world cup, so getting to the finals is not undeserved.
Personally, I'm rooting for Germany now, largely because they have (against all odds) started to play some interesting football, and I like that to pay off so others will get the same idea.
I hope Brazil try to 'win' the second half and not just avoid a record spanking.
They're attacking pretty hard, so at least it's not boring! But if they don't get any payoff from all that effort soon, I suspect they will completely deflate. It's also pretty risky.
But props for not just giving up.
Whenever I talk to anyone about the game, I deliberately avoid calling it anything other than D&D. I believe that deploying that kind of language perpetuates the mentality of edition wars and community polarity around them.
You don't have edition wars because they call the editions different things. You have edition wars because there are different editions.
Stubbornly referring to all editions as "D&D" and refusing to clarify which you mean is just going to lead to a lot of confusion. It can work in your private gaming group because, presumably, everyone will know what you're talking about. We're not your private gaming group.
To be even more fair than that, it was probably a reference to the Firefly debacle.
I think the easiest thing would be to pick a country and a pre-paid option, and then check the roaming fees. Due to recent EU legislation that limits how much companies can charge, cross-country phone usage, while inside the EU, should be fairly cheap. (I just can't remember if this went into effect on july 1st, or if it's on august 1st)
Yeah, finishing in the top 16 of the entire world is pretty good. I realize that the US isn't used to competing against anyone but themselves, so take it from the rest of us: You did well. (Significantly better than many of the usual contenders, like England, Portugal, Italy and Spain.)