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Sara Marie wrote:
Not much I can do until a couple things are fixed. See you guys on Monday!

I know it's not Steve's fault that authorization was bumped to Monday, but I'm gonna go ahead a blame him because I find it highly entertaining.

Boo, Steve! Boo!

-Skeld

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Technotrooper wrote:
I love Paizo, but have to admit I am frustrated with spending $150+ on MA and WotR and then hearing about all of the problems and issues on the forums here. I am a somewhat new PF DM and the thought of trying to "fix" things on my own is daunting. Most companies that put out a "flawed" (I know some would argue this is an overstatement) product usually try to "make things right." It sounds like Paizo does have enough "irons in the fire" to prevent that from happening in this particular case...which is too bad. Seeing the lower quality of the ACG was also a disappointment. I believe in Paizo and am rooting for them, but I do have to agree with the OP that they seem to have too much on their plate and not enough staff.

I'm an old GM and there are two pieces of advice I'd give you as a somewhat new PF GM:

1) I don't believe most of the "_____ is broken!" posts/arguments I read on the forum until I actually encounter the problem at the table myself. Groups are different sizes, with different levels of player experience, with different playstyles, and people are just different from one group to the next. The thing that I might think is an insurmountable problem, you might never see at the table.
2) If I were a somewhat new PF GM, i would attempt Mythic until I had at least another AP under my belt.

Beyond that, happy gaming.

-Skeld

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captain yesterday wrote:
so what was your gateway Adventure Path and what one kept you hooked after the first one?

Savage Tide. Once I bought into STAP, I started up a Pathfinder AP sub sight-unseen.

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I've used HL exclusively for several years now and I've been very pleased with it. I GM so I rebuild all my encounters for my group (7 players). I also manage all their characters in HL.

Once you get past the initial purchases, HL isn't all that expensive, especially once you consider what the packages costs versus the time I'd have to sink into doing it myself. When viewed from that perspective, it's a steal.

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magnuskn wrote:
Ssalarn wrote:

Actually, the biggest problem with Mythic Adventures was that Paizo listened too closely to their fans. Most of the big issues with the system can be traced to changes that players wanted during the playtest, including the comparative value of mythic tiers, the strength and implementation of some of the more troublesome abilities, etc.

I think that if you think Paizo isn't listening to its players, you aren't paying attention.

I said that they are not testing their new systems properly. Which includes feedback from fans, yes, but in the end they have to test out their math by themselves. Which obviously did not get done with MA.

The biggest problem I see with Mythic/WotR was that the rules and the AP were developed concurrently. If they had put out a Mythic Module at launch and waited a year on the AP, I think the AP would have worked out better (from a rules standpoint; story-wise it's awesome like it is).

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Steve Geddes wrote:
Perhaps back then Paizo were the plucky underdog duking it out against a big corporation, now they're the tall poppy. In other words, maybe it's the expectations that have changed rather than the rate of error.

I think the expectations have changed, but not because of the "David versus Goliath" perception of Paizo, but because Paizo's audience has changed significantly.

In 2007 (when the AP launched), Paizo's audience was basically "people that liked what they did in Dragon and Dungeon magazines, wanted periodic adventures, and/or wanted a new campaign setting."

In 2008 (when the RPG was announced), the audience grew and added "people that wanted to stick with 3.5e."

Since then, Paizo has added tons of new players (necessitating products geared towards new players) and so-on. The audience today (if the messageboards are any indication) is far more demanding than in 2007.

Hayato Ken wrote:
Interesting stuff about language.

Something like this (using a consistant set of well-defined words and phrases as game terms) is a great idea, but probably requires rewriting the entire ruleset. If they wanted to this, it's basically a new edition.

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This thread seems unnecessarily flamebaity. I don't agree with the premise that Paizo's overall quality is on the decline because they have "too many irons in the fire." Most of the product lines are relatively compartmentalized and the various teams don't seem to overlap very much. For example, the guys working on the card game don't appear to be the same people working on the RPG design team, and many of those product lines are produced by licensees altogether.

I will say that the products that launch each year at GenCon seem to suffer the most from schedule-crunch induced quality faults. This is an issue nearly every year since the APG launched. Compounding the drama is the difficulty CS seems to have handling the ever-increasing mountain of orders/releases each year at GenCon.

I didn't pay much attention to the ACG or its release, so I can't comment specifically on how it compares to previous GenCon releases with regard to quality issues.

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I'm still of the mind that any new edition of Pathfinder will be a (relatively) minor tweak to the current game and that Paizo will put it off as long as possible.

Even a reorganized CRB (ala Beginner's Box) would be a big deal because it will invalidate the page references in every previously published book (and errata that affects pagination is something Paizo has been hesitant to embrace).

Besides, some of the issues with learning the basics of the game are intended to be addressed by the Strategy Guide.

Of course, the Unchained book with its redesigned classes could be something of a stealth edition change itself.

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englishteacherdrew wrote:
Also, you are incorrect. It HAS been recognized that there is a design flaw and layout and flow of the book.

Keep in mind that when the CRB was first developed, bringing new players to the game wasn't its main focus (or even it's secondary focus). In fact, it was marketed to those of us that played D&D3.5, and preferred that version, as a way of keeping the rules in print, cleaning them up, and adding some new content, but keeping the overall organization similar to the two books they replaced (the 3.5e PHB and DMG). Having all the rules for a game you're already 90% familiar with in one book was an advantage. No one predicted how the game would take off or that new players would flock to it, because we (fans) were considered stubborn holdouts. The book was well-designed for its intended purpose at the time.

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Anzyr wrote:
Everything can be improved. To be complacent is to be obsolete.

You'd be surprised how many people still view ODD, 1e, and 2e to be their favorite versions and play them just like they did 30 years ago. That viewpoint isn't all that common here simply because this board caters to a newer game.

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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Steve Geddes wrote:
Even jerks are welcome now. :)
I've been welcome for years!

Just because you're tolerated doesn't mean you're welcome. ;)

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Resource management is part of the game. Uses/day is a gamey way of representing a limited resource. Flavor to taste.

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Orthos - You sound like you need a hug.

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Pan wrote:

Actually my favorite moment is

** spoiler omitted **

I liked that part, too. Honestly, I ended up liking Drax much more than I thought I would. The only one that I didn't like was Gamora. She was just... I don't know... Boring?

slight Zoe Saldana rant:
As much as I've heard people (not so much on this board as IRL) talk about what a great actress she is, I've never seen her in a movie role where I thought she was really good or brought something special to a role/character. She's always just kinda "meh." Maybe I'm not watching the right movies.

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Neither the mechanics of the game world nor the story of the game world exist in a vacuum.

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Orthos wrote:
Is that how we got all the 90s Marvel cartoons I grew up on? Because if so I'm 100% cool with that.

The ones I remember are from the 80's. ;)

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Orthos wrote:

Sorry to hear that.

I personally would still rather have the risk of failure than nothing at all, because without Kickstarter there's not even the funds to make an attempt.

Right, I get that it sometimes comes down "kickstarter, or nothing." I just get the feeling that a growing number of projects are turning to Kickstarter first as a way to mitigate some of their own financial risk, to avoid more traditional funding avenues, or use it as a long-lead pre-order system.

Plus, with video games, i like to get a good look at it before I drop money on it.

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Long-term licensing agreement with Obsidian: Great news for you guys. Yay!
Card game tablet app: very unenthusiastic meh.
Assurances of a future CRPG: Yay! What i was hoping for!
Possibility it'll be a Kickstarter funded thing: Ugh, really? Enough kickstarter. Do it or don't. "Give me money now and I'll give you something maybe, sorta acceptable in a couple years." Pushing the funding risk off on to the consumer trend needs to stop.

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I am saddened by this news.

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EltonJ wrote:
Reddit posters...

Aren't those the same guys who were going to crowd-source figuring out who the Boston Bombers were?

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Welcome back to the charter club, Anguish.

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nighttree wrote:
Can we get a rundown on the android feats ???

Android Feats:

Empathy (You have learned to experience emotion.)
Extra Surge (You can use your nanite surge ability more often than normal.)
Nanite Disruption (You can use your nanite surge to inflict wounds upon other mechanical beings.)
Rapid Recovery (When you heal damage with your nanite surge, you also remove harmful effects.)
Rapid Repair (You can use your nanite surge to repair hit point damage.)

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Heladriell wrote:
Any info on those null blades?

Null Blade:
A null blade is a +1 construct-bane bastard sword — using it in this capacity does not consume any charges. The blade’s strange alloy penetrates hardness as if it were made of adamantine. The blade can be activated as a swift action. While it’s active, a shimmering field of green energy wraps around the blade, disrupting magic and technology alike, and the weapon’s enhancement bonus increases to +2. In addition, the first time in a round that an activated null blade strikes a creature or object, it consumes an additional charge and targets the creature or object struck with dispel magic and discharge (see page 9). If a technological item damaged by a null blade is used in the same round it took damage, it glitches as if it were timeworn (see page 55). Other stuff: 1-handed melee, exotic (bastard sword), 1d10 slashing 19-20/x2, 10 charges, 1 charge/round, 4 pounds.

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zergtitan wrote:
WHAT DOES THE TECHSLINGER DO/GET?!

Techslinger:
New deeds: Covet Charge (spend grit to use 1 less charge), Reliable (spend grit to avoid tech glitches), Charge Recycling (spend grit to grant 1 charge to a tech item), Heavy Weapon Deeds (treat a heavy weapon as a firearm for using deeds); bonus feat (can take the Technologist feat as a bonus feat); Technic Training (gives bonuses to selected advanced tech firearms).
zergtitan wrote:
Also what is the Technomancer like?

Technomancer:
It's a PrC that allows a spellcaster to work with advanced tech and continue to advance their spellcasting. They can repair, recycle, and craft tech items.

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Samy wrote:
The Player's Guide said three new alien animals for potential familiars? Any more than the petromin?

Sorry, you only asked about familiars and that was all I searched for.

Spoiler:
There are two other animals that are usable as animal companions by Kasatha Druids: the Pilo (aka "tumblespike"), which is sort of a six-legged armadillo/porcupine, and the Sorico (aka "dustshroud rabbit"), which is a burrowing creature that live in vast ant-like colonies.

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Samy wrote:
Can I get any more detail on the potential familiars?

Spoiler:
There is a Tiny creature called a Petromin (aka "azure glider") that a spellcaster can select as a familiar that grants a +3 to Stealth checks.

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Dylos wrote:
Only 1 question, are there actual iron gods and do any of them have a firearm as their favored weapon?

The answer based on my skimming:

Spoiler:
The campaign summary discusses two AI entities, Unity and Hellion. Unity, it is stated has become a god, but its influenece is limited to Silver Mount. Hellion is referred to as a demigod and spawned from Unity. The main antagonist of Fires of Creation is a Cleric of Hellion. There isn't really any information on favored weapons. The Cleric uses an "inferno pistol" as her main weapon.

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Matthew Bellizzi wrote:
Whoa ok lots of negative feedback.

Sorry. I didn't want to be negative (I never enjoy dissing someone's idea of what might make a good game).

Matthew Bellizzi wrote:
I'm not sure that time warpage necessarily benefits the bad guys as they've been playing a long game as it is already.

What you're proposing has the potential to hurt the PCs in a way they have no control over and cannot compensate for (other than to try and minimize their time in Runeforge, which could lead to their missing clues and story elements). The punishment is handed out to them for doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing. I could understand the punishments better if it was because they decided to camp on the front porch of Rimeskull for 2 months while they crafted a bunch of items, but that's not the case. They're supposed to enter Runeforge, explore it, and ferret out clues. Introducing time dilation doesn't serve a purpose.

Matthew Bellizzi wrote:
Also the runforge is for crafting rune weapons not really research so much.

Runeforge's original purpose was for research (specifically to find a way for the Runelords to escape Earthfall). It's purpose now, in the AP, is twofold: 1) to serve as a means of obtaining Runeforged weapons, and 2) to uncover some story elements (and gain experience and loot they can use later on).

Matthew Bellizzi wrote:
Mostly I wanted to make the game feel less like a video game and have events external to the players immediate scope continue to happen in the back ground.

This can happen without the inclusion of time dilation. It's just a matter of roleplay.

Matthew Bellizzi wrote:
Personally I think it would focus the players more at the task at hand and avoid having to deal with a bunch of crap. I'm gonna do it I'll let ya all know how it works out.

Let us know how it works out.

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Ever since RothRL:AE, people have been clamoring for a new AP hardcover. :D

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I usually restrict my games to Core races + Aasimar & Tiefling, unless there's a good story reason why other races would be considered.

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Honestly guys (Steve, Sissyl, Wraithstrike, et al longtimers), there's not any reason to engage Scott in these arguments. He's been on these boards for 6 years now, defending WotC against any and every slight, real or perceived. Continuing to argue with him and let him get under your skin only serves to ruin everyone's good mood and get blood pressures up.

4E is dead and he may literally be the only person left on this board defending 4e and WotC's action leading up to its release (and some of their other actions, like yanking the PDFs willed to no warning). At this point, his comments on WotC/4e can safely be ignored.

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magnuskn wrote:
Skeld wrote:

I'll have to look at Jade Regent to get a better idea of what you're referencing.

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You do that.

Ha. Yeah, I did that, because I'm genuinely curious what type of role play scenarios you're talking about. It's interesting that you're asking for role play scenarios like that to be added in as standard fair. I always assumed that's the kind of thing GMs added to campaigns as they saw fit (at least that's been standard for my group since before 3e came out). I didn't realize anyone that's an experienced GM/roleplayer would need that level of hand-holding to make their campaign interesting from a role playing standpoint. On the other hand, APs are created with the intent to appeal to a wide audience , so I shouldn't be surprised.

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After reading the newer posts in this thread, I'll also say this: I can your GM interactions going 1 of 2 ways. Either the characters you're proposing are off-the-wall-bonkers, or you're being more confrontational about than you realize (or maybe some of both).

To eliminate the first as possibility, you might try posting a short paragraph about some of the characters that GMs have nixed. Maybe race/class/level/feats, general descriptions, etc. Entire builds aren't necessary.

As far as the second thing, it's entirely possible that you think you're being perfectly reasonable when you send a GM that 3rd or 5th email about why this character build isn't powergamey if he would just read what you sent him/her. You may think it's reasonable, but your GMs might start to feel harassed or bullied. Ain't nobody got time for that. Certain characters simply do not belong in certain games and that's up to the GM to decide.

Taku Ooka Nin wrote:
This is why online SRDs are fantastic, or for you to provide all of the sources with the page numbers.

I thought about that, but OP mentions 3.5. If it's strictly 3.5, there's no (legal) SRD for all the non-OGL stuff. With the books OoP, it's entirely possible for a GM to not have access to the material. Print outs of referenced pages are about the only option.

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Changing Man wrote:

As much as I think that's a nice idea, Tangent101, by excluding the Mythic it also excludes the PC's becoming what they should be by the end of the AP- Nascent Demigods. And with no Mythic, there's no ability to grant followers spells and a host of other options.

To each there own, no badwrongfun implied :) Different playstyles and expectations for different folks!

You don't need rules to do either of those tings.

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I didn't realize how good Paizo's products were until I spent 2 years as a judge for the Ennies awards. I had to read through a huge pile of RPG products from a wide range of companies/individuals/authors/etc. Some of it was truly awful and gave me a deep appreciation of how much time and care Paizo puts into their Pathfinder products.

James Jacobs wrote:
I love the passion that gamers bring to the industry... but that same passion can be incredibly self destructive. To ANY genre industry. Fans have a lot more power than they realize when it comes to supporting and directing the development of the things they're fans of, and when they don't realize they have that power, they often end up ruining the very things they love.

This is so very true of comics, movies, RPGs and so on.

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John Kretzer wrote:

I am wondering if this book will contain something very useful (and if not maybe you guys can still add it) a master index for all the classes, feats, spells, archetypes, etc to appear in the Pathfinder hardcover line.

That alone could get me to buy this book.

I kinda doubt it will, just because the list would be invalidated by the next hardcover they release that contains fets, archetypes, etc.

That sort of stuff is where the online SRDs shine.

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DrDeth wrote:
I increased point buy, but I do not allow any points back from dumping. This solves most issues.

Same here. I don't allow additional points from intentionally lower a score below 10. That mitigates most dump sta issues. I don't object if a player wants to lower a score below 10 for roleplay reasons.

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CrabSage wrote:
He has somewhat taken up the sword. Being a "switch hitter" means he is both melee and range.

I understand what a switch hitter means.

My point is that, unless the Rogue player is unhappy with his character and asking the Ranger player for advice, the Ranger player doesn't need to give the Rogue player unsolicited advice. The jist of the OP is "my character is incidentally better at a thing than this other character that is actively trying to be good at a thing, so I want to convince him to give up the thing that he wants to do in favor of the thing I think he should do."

I still think the best advice to the OP is to mind his own character unless the other player is asking for his advice.

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The best advice I can offer you is to not try and force another player in your group to have fun your way.

After all, your playing a Ranger with more HP and a better attack bonus, why don't you "drop the bow and grab a sword weapon"?

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Rule #1: Don't be a slave to rules.

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A year is a long time to be stuck waiting for an AP to finish when you aren't very interest in it.

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Profession (physicist) check failed.

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DrDeth wrote:
(ps- did you know that when you post your poster name and ID and avatar are there?

Yes, I knew that.

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Any new edition of Pathfinder is likely to be a revision/clean-up of the current edition, with an emphasis on backward compatibility.

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Lochar wrote:
Matt Thomason wrote:
I do, however, concede that if a product isn't designed to run out of the box, it should state that clearly. Then at least there's no room for claims that it isn't suitable for its expected function. In fact, some kind of indicator on APs and modules of the amount of work a GM is expected to put in could be a nice feature.

Honestly, you know what would be an interesting thought experiment?

The end of book stat build outs for what the devs consider to be the 'baseline' for that AP.

Each volume of the AP used to include a couple pages of "pre-gen" characters for that volume. That section was eventually removed (maybe around the time of Kingmaker, I don't remember exactly) in favor of more other stuff. The section consisted of short write-ups/stats for a 4-PC party of the proper level to play hat volume of the AP.

People complained about how badly the characters were built (usually from an optimization stand-point). A couple specific complaints I remember were why was Valeros a 2-weapon Fighter (when that's a sub-optimal build for a Fighter) and why Merisiel had a low Int (8 I think) instead of a higher Int to maximize her skill points.

There were plenty more complaints and you can find them if you dig through the archives.

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First things first: never regret killing a Monk PC. They have it coming. :D

Second: You might give the PC the Ghost template. It would allow them to travel with the remaining heroes, do some cool stuff (like walk through walls), and generally stay in the game for the time being. Most of the Ghost's combat abilities are things that require Fortitude saves, to which most of the denizens of Foxglove Manor will be immune because they are Undead, so that he won't be over-powering in combat.

I'd tell the player straight up, "I'm sorry your PC died, that wasn't part of the plan. Here's something to keep you in the game until you guys can afford a raise, but this template is not meant to be permanent."

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Steve Geddes wrote:

Yeah, I don't mean to contradict your main point really. I agree that those kinds of posts generally do lead to a downhill spiral unless phrased very, very carefully.

Just being a bit contrary perhaps, but I think there is a reasonably significant cohort of gamers who view all rules as a set of interpretations rather than an objectively determinable body of laws. As such, I think the rules forum is a place to ask or answer a "what do you think they meant" question and I don't discount the views of those who base their answer on "gut feel".

I really don't look as the rules forum as anything more of a curiosity than anything all that useful. Within my home game, I'm rule-savvy enough to make my own interpretations that work for my table. What the designers intended is really a secondary academic point of interest. What other players think is a distant third.

IMO, PFS drives most of the hand-wringing in the rules forum.

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Sometimes, a group stumbles across a near-perfect synergy of tactics, opponent, and environment. It's ok for this to happen because the GM needs to let the players be awesome sometimes.

I wouldn't worry about this unless it becomes their go-to tactic for most situations and starts proving itself too effective. Keep in mind that intelligent enemies (and Wizards are known for being intelligent) would foresee such a tactic and a devise a counter. Additionally, for foes later in the game, remember that the heroes are being watched.

-Skeld

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