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drunken_nomad wrote:
Empty! All this time!? That's dishonest. Low.

That's the Gyro Captain from The Road Warrior aka Mad Max 2.


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Ivan Rûski wrote:


As for those who say "no smokers because they stink", isn't that a bit petty? It sounds like something kids on a playground would say: " we don't wanna play with you because you stink."

It's no more petty than not wanting to game with someone because of their poor hygiene. I used to play with a fair amount of smokers (now I game with none)and I can tell you that yes the smell of cigarette smoke stays in someones clothes and their pores. So when you're sitting next to them depending on the person you CAN smell it.

I don't like the smell of cigarettes or cigarette smoke and don't spend a lot of time around people who smoke for a reason. It's not an indictment of the people who smoke it's the habit. Now if that's petty, then I guess it's petty. But I'm pretty sure I can point out plenty of things that are pettier in nerdworld in general and on this board in particular.


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another_mage wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
Is there any way to get this script to work in Chrome? Please? All of the previous versions seemed to work fine except this one.

I've mostly abandoned Chrome as a development platform because Google is going to require Chrome extensions to be hosted on the Chrome Web Store, at least for Windows users.

On which platform are you using Chrome?

It looks like Tampermonkey might be worth a shot, as it might allow Chrome to run the Greasemonkey version of the script. (You may need to rename it "paizo_ignore.tamper.js" instead.)
I'd try it myself, but I've got some pegged dependencies that won't let me install the latest version of Chrome.

Can you give that a shot and let us know if it works?

I'm using Chrome on OS X. UGH. Darn you Google!


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ShinHakkaider wrote:
Captain America: Winter Soldier opens on April 4th.

Nope, opens on March 26th.

What? You have to wait until the 4th? ;-)

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE...

It's bad enough I've been avoiding message boards that even mention the movie because people have been spoiling CA:TWS left and right....


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Imbicatus wrote:
I'm sorry I blew up your mom, Ricky.

Better off Dead.


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My X-men is the Claremont/Cockrum/Byrne/Austin team.

Back when they actually had to think and figure out how to fight an enemy as opposed to just steamrolling them.

I'm reading two x-men books now but that's because of Bendis. Before this Aaron's Wolverine and the X-Men but before that I kinda stayed away from X-men for the better part of a decade. I was and still am an Avengers fan.


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Readerbreeder wrote:
P.A. System: Capricorn 15's. Born 2244. Enter the Carousel. This is the time of renewal.

Logan's Run.


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drunken_nomad wrote:

1 If I have to hear "Yamo Be There" one more time, I'm going to "Yamo" burn this place to the ground.

2 Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.

3 you know "love, take me down to the streets"? by Wings?
im pretty sure its one of their hits from the 70s...

Thats not Wings, nobody sings that.

1. is Paul Rudd's character from 40 Year Old Virgin.

2. Dunno?

3. Role Models!!! (just rewatched this a few days ago. Really Underrated comedy.)


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Freehold DM wrote:
drunken_nomad wrote:

1 Well, let me think... I was thinkin' I could use me another couple cans'o that potted meat if ya got any extree.

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2 Now go home and get your f#@+in' shinebox.
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3 The dealers are watching the players. The box men are watching the dealers. The floor men are watching the box men. The pit bosses are watching the floor men. The shift bosses are watching the pit bosses. The casino manager is watching the shift bosses. I'm watching the casino manager. And the eye-in-the-sky is watching us all.
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4 Like the drink, only not spelled the same.
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5 But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!
I know number four is green mile. Is number 3 21? I I'm sure number 5 is the dark knight.

I'm pretty sure that #3 is CASINO. Also #2 is GOODFELLAS


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Imbicatus wrote:

Man 1: And you, {$Charname}, the supposed savior of the resistance, are now its destroyer, and, along with them, you've given me yourself... calmly... coolly... entirely without incident.

[Polygraph machine scribbling rapidly]

Man 2: No.

[Polygraph machine flatlines]

Man 3: Oh... S#!t.

Man 2: Not without incident.

Equilibrium.


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It was hard putting together this list mostly because I tend to follow creators more than I do actual characters. Not that the characters don't matter, they absolutely do. I'll probably never pick up another Punisher book. I love Greg Rucka but not even he is going to make me read Frank Castle again. The last Punisher book that I read was Remender's Frankencastle and only because it felt radically different than anything that's come before. I enjoyed it. But once it went back to status quo. Blech.

Anyway here's my list:

Spider-Man (Peter Parker, Ultimate & 616 Versions) - Pretty much the Ultimate Spider-Man. I have almost all of the hardcover trades from Peter Parker's tenure. I think this was probably the most "pure" spider-man comic we've had for the past decade.

I was kinda "meh" on Dan Slott's run (but ironically I think that Superior Spider-Man is EXCELLENT. I cant wait for the omnibus for this title...) but Bendis Spider-man book is aces.

Captain America (Steve Rogers) - My love for Capt America goes back to those Captain America & Falcon team ups. And then Roger Stern / John Byrne run in the 80's. Then the Mark Waid run in the 90's and then Brubaker's run on the book.

Iron Man (Tony Stark) Yes. I was the kid in JHS arguing that Iron Man could beat the X-Men by HIMSELF. FROM ORBIT. Also? Armor Wars. Then Him vs. The Mandarin. I think that Matt Fractions most recent run on the book is highly underrated.

Black Panther (T'Challa) - The Priest run. 'nuff said.

Robin / Nightwing (Dick Greyson) I loved, LOVED the fact that during the Judas Contract story arc that the only member of the Titans with NO POWERS was the ONLY one who escaped from Deathstroke.

Cyclops - for his many, many flaws make him that much more "human" to me. Also X-Men 175, he takes on all of the X-Men alone (yes, Mastermind is controlling them but still...) and lives.

The Confessor (Astro City) - Confessions and Tarnished Angel are my two favorite Astro City Stories with Confessions edging out Tarnished Angel by about an inch. I loved, LOVED the Confessor's backstory and have a real soft spot for Teacher and Apprentice type stories.

Daredevil (Matt Murdock) - Forget Miller's original run. BORN AGAIN is the definitive Daredevil story in my book. It tells you everything you need to know about this character in that one arc. Also Brubaker's run on the book is actually really good too.

Batman (DCUA) Yeah I said it. I like the DCAU Batman better than the one who is in the comics. Especially crotchety old Bruce in Batman Beyond. I'm a fan of Terry McGuiness as well. Mostly because he kinda harkens back to Spider-Man in a way.

Static - Black Spider-Man, yeah pretty much. Still a great character and I absolutely LOVED seeing him make it in the DCAU.


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Shadowborn wrote:
I'd just like the show to get back to a typical weekly broadcast. They hyped up the Sif episode, which took a month to get on the air, only to take two weeks to get another episode out. If they were airing them out of order, we might have another Firefly on our hands.

I think that the episodes are purposefully being staggered.

The next new episode of AOS airs April 1st.

Captain America: Winter Soldier opens on April 4th.

From the two people I know who have already seen the movie in screenings say that there are big changes happening re: SHIELD that cant NOT effect the show.

Yes I know that these AOS episodes were shot 6 months to a year ago. But the script for Winter Soldier has been in play for perhaps longer. And the general mapping / outline for the MCU has been in play probably longer...


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Yes, I've seen that video and while it's more realistic it's as about a interesting as watching paint dry. For academic purposes yeah that guy is hitting the hell out of his targets and IS way more accurate.

But I dont play / run RPG's to simulate dry static reality. I like the kinetics and movement of combat as portrayed in movies and TV. And that's not putting down real/actual combat.

I enjoy boxing, I LIKE actually boxing. I like watching actual boxing and MMA matches.

But I also really, really appreciate good choreographed fights in movies and TV mostly movies. That's where me and RPG's link up.

I dont care about how real it is or needs to be. We're rolling a 20-sided dice and adding some numbers together to see if we hit. There's no reason why in my head (or verbal description) as a player my character inst doing crazy evasive maneuvers trying not to be hit while at the same time trying to nail his target.

That may not be "real" or it may be "unnecessary" but that's not why I'm playing / running RPG's...


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Is there any way to get this script to work in Chrome? Please? All of the previous versions seemed to work fine except this one.

Thanks for any help you can give in advance.


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Archery Acrobatic Madness.


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Sebastrd wrote:
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood. Nobody!"

Dodgeball: A true underdog story


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Auxmaulous wrote:
"The chain in those handcuffs is high-tensile steel. It'd take you ten minutes to hack through it with this. Now, if you're lucky, you could hack through your ankle in five minutes. Go."

That's from the end of Mad Max I think. although there are few other movies / media that have aped that bit.


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Jaelithe wrote:

I'm beginning to think I expect too much from you people.

To repeat:

"Don't everybody sob at once! My God, if I went up in flames there's not a living soul who'd pee on me to put the fire out!"
"Let's strike a flint and see."

Come on, guys. Restore my faith. Clue: The scene above is Anthony Hopkins and Nigel Terry.

And

"Listen to the monsters and their cries of horror and sudden death!"

That one's Destroy All Monsters. Some kaiju fan should have gotten it.

The Lion in Winter!

HA!! That movie has one of my favorite quotes in it. (paraphrasing of course. It's been years since I've seen it)

Prince Richard: He's coming. He'll wont get satisfaction out of me. He's not going to see me beg.

Prince Geoffrey: You fool, as if the way one fell down mattered

Prince Richard: When the fall is all there is? It matters.


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Fallen_Mage wrote:

E: *Begins to saw, but the task is difficult due the trunk rocking* "Hold it still will you."

R: *Slips the handcuff and holds the trunk* "Does this help?"

E: "Yes, thanks." *Stops sawing, and slams the saw down* "Do you mean to tell me you could have taken that off at anytime?"

R: "No, not at any time. Only when it was funny."

Who Framed Roger Rabbit.


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Black Dougal wrote:

z: "We are only interested in friendship. Why do you attack us? "

m: "Why not? Pathetic earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void, without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe, anything at all, you would've hidden from it in terror. "

Flash Gordon!


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Black Dougal wrote:
"Witness Exhibit A: My 8th Grade science project - a working rain forest. Mike Dexter threw it out a third story window. It rains here no more. Witness Exhibit B: An eye patch I wore for a month after Mike beaned me with a raisin in home ec. My parents took me to a 3D film. I saw no third dimension. And of course, how could I forget the pudding incident? I know no one else has. Well gentlemen, tonight, Mike Dexter will know humiliation. Tonight Mike Dexter will know ridicule. Tonight is the night we fight back. Tonight is our independence night. "

Cant Hardly Wait.


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Sissyl wrote:
Interesting. Could it be that... Gasp... Affirmative action doesn't work?
for some reason, I can't help but think of caddyshack when Sissyl in brings up affirmative action. If it disappeared tomorrow, racism would not go with it. Dislike the program/approach all you want, but not everything is affirmative actions fault.

Yeah I think that I alluded to that earlier upthread but it's not conducive to the argument at hand I guess.

I think part of my frustration with this whole thing lies in the fact that there was literally an entire generation where this country treated people like garbage and most of the country just turned a blind eye and was like "This is how it is." And did this for almost a century.

So the convenient canard of AA causes more bad feelings than the actual racism that existed BEFORE AA, is a little insulting and self serving. It translates to "Now that it inconveniences people who look like me IT'S NOT FAIR."

Not one of the people who complain about how good blacks have it would ever switch places with me if they could.

It's not that I disagree with some what they say or even if I DID disagree I could do so respectfully if they came across as more empathic and genuine. As it were they usually don't. It might be intended as "I'm trying to do right by everyone" but comes across as "If it didn't effect me or mine I wouldn't care" Which takes us right back to the attitude pre-AA.

I've always said that the whites who stood up against the norm and for and with blacks during the Civil Rights era were definitely heroes. They had more to lose. Black people already were at the bottom fighting for equality. Whites who fought had their status and risked LOSING that for doing the right thing. If we had more people like that during the Civil Rights era (and more importantly AFTERWARDS) I think that it would have gone a long way to changing hearts and minds.

If there were more white politicians or even White Civilians who spoke up about discrimination or police brutality or failing schools in black neighborhoods guys like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton wouldn't have such power in the black community. IT would show that other people actually gave a crap. But that's not how it played out. Although, Im starting to see more and more young white guys speaking up and advocating for people of color. Especially in the face of the police seemingly getting more militarized and violating EVERYONE'S rights. Yes its that case of "Oh wow this happened to me or someone I know but it's been happening in the Black Community for YEARS! It's time do speak up..." but at least it's an honest approach that comes from the heart.

Like I said I think we need to trust each other more but with polarizing attitudes being what they are these days? It seems almost impossible.


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I hear and respect the point that youre trying to make here but you kind of lose me with this one.

Sissyl wrote:
The end result is that people are judged, and treated, according to the colour of their skins. THAT is the problem with racism. People who bleat on and on and on about how everyone who doesn't agree with them are racists tend to be the ones aiming to barter their own skin colour into economic and social advantage; excuse me if I don't find that admirable.

That's not the end result. All of this was going on WELL BEFORE AA. Which is why we needed something like AA to begin with.

Youre talking about a country where the from 1865 to around 1964 (that's almost 100 years by my count) where the majority were absolutely fine with black people living in their country as second class citizens. Jews, were allowed to fight in WWII, Italians were allowed to fight in WWII, Irish were allowed to fight in WWII. Even Japanese Americans were allowed to fight in WWII (granted what was done to their families while they were out fighting was HEINOUS.) Blacks were not allowed to fight in WWII until much later on in the war. When things started to look desperate. If we wanted to fight in WWII WE HAD TO GO TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND JOIN THEIR ARMY (salutes Canada...). While everyone else came back to their AWESOME AMERICA, black soldiers came back to lynchings and Jim Crow. This wasn't slavery. This was in our Parents and Grandparents life time.

Fighting for civil rights wasn't a popular thing to back then just like it's not popular right now. The same people who were pointing out that things were wrong back then were shamed and silenced just like people are doing today. Except now when someone points this out they're called racist for it.

The men and women of every race who fought for civil rights back in a time where speaking up and saying something could get you killed were EXCEPTIONAL people.

I had more to say but I'll stop here as I think my point was made.


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And still Affirmative Action may not be fixing ANYTHING because attitudes towards blacks whether theyre actual criminals or not are still pretty awful.

We prefer our Felons White, thank you very much...

Yup things really suck for white people

It's why my son is named **** and not Ja'quan...

Also? Pretty sure you wouldn't EVER want to trade places with a black person. EVER.


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Sissyl wrote:
Krensky wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
It is interesting that when someone says why they don't like affirmative action, they are racists. It's... predictable, useless and boring by now. It's more than a decade since anyone took it seriously.
It is interesting that when someone says the exact same dog whistle code words used by racists, they always protest so loudly when someone calls racists.

So, I understand that affirmative action is not something just anyone is allowed to have an opinion on, much less express it? And if someone is unfairly impacted in, say, a uni application because of such programs, they are racists if they say so? I thought harassment was always a subjective phenomenon... But again, I suppose only certain classes of people have that right.

No wonder racial issues never seem to get any better, if that is the best you can accept done to change it.

It may not be ACTUALLY racist. But it definitely comes across as such when people who bemoan AA vehemently deny or flat out ignore the reasons why the policy was put in place to begin with. Or wholly believe that if it were removed the playing field would be automatically leveled.

The main issue, really is TRUST. You dont trust AA to do right by you and I don't trust this country's citizens to do right by me as an individual. As long as that lack of trust remains, we're never going to unite as countrymen or equals.


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Fake Healer wrote:

I just love how "we shouldn't discriminate" is all about putting into place laws that benefit the minority in ways that makes them have advantages over more populous groups but never addresses the attitudes towards the discrimination.

I was in a union before where I needed an 85% on my tests to become a journeyman. Meanwhile the African-americans only needed a 65% because "we need to allow easier access so that we can be more integrated". All this did was cause a rift between caucasians and african-americans in our union. The caucasians were mad because it was unfair.
You can't cry for racial equality and then give out special advantages to certain races. Change the attitudes that cause the problem. Punish employers who truly are being racist and not the ones who are just weeding out people who are unqualified for a certain job.

I am caucasian and I feel like the government doesn't give a crap about me. If I was from India I could fairly easily get a deferred interest loan to start a business in America. As a caucasian I need collateral, education, a business plan and model to submit, and then I will still get turned down. If I was any number of minorities I may have actually been able to go to college with some fund or a scholarship or somesuch. As a caucasian I better hope mom and dad can help or I need to shoulder the full amount on my back.
Every time something white on black happens in the news we practically have a race riot, whether or not it was racially motivated. Yet when a white guy is robbed/killed/carjacked by a black it is just a crime even if the black admits to looking to target a white person.

The things that are supposed to help the minorities only really serve to widen the divide between the races. We need to change the attitudes.

I'm going to need some evidence regarding the loan thing. I'm black as the day is long and I've never been approved for any loan beyond perhaps a credit card. Did this hapo n because I was black or because I have bad...

I couldnt have put this better myself.

No, seriously. I would have just wound up foaming at the mouth and banging my head on my keyboard (which would have been very expensive...). Well put sir. WELL PUT.


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Fake Healer wrote:

I just love how "we shouldn't discriminate" is all about putting into place laws that benefit the minority in ways that makes them have advantages over more populous groups but never addresses the attitudes towards the discrimination.

I was in a union before where I needed an 85% on my tests to become a journeyman. Meanwhile the African-americans only needed a 65% because "we need to allow easier access so that we can be more integrated". All this did was cause a rift between caucasians and african-americans in our union. The caucasians were mad because it was unfair.
You can't cry for racial equality and then give out special advantages to certain races. Change the attitudes that cause the problem. Punish employers who truly are being racist and not the ones who are just weeding out people who are unqualified for a certain job.

I am caucasian and I feel like the government doesn't give a crap about me. If I was from India I could fairly easily get a deferred interest loan to start a business in America. As a caucasian I need collateral, education, a business plan and model to submit, and then I will still get turned down. If I was any number of minorities I may have actually been able to go to college with some fund or a scholarship or somesuch. As a caucasian I better hope mom and dad can help or I need to shoulder the full amount on my back.
Every time something white on black happens in the news we practically have a race riot, whether or not it was racially motivated. Yet when a white guy is robbed/killed/carjacked by a black it is just a crime even if the black admits to looking to target a white person.

The things that are supposed to help the minorities only really serve to widen the divide between the races. We need to change the attitudes.

Or get rid of those pesky minorities...


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From the same movie as above:

Guy 2: Right, I'm off to deal with the fate of the planet. Be gentle with them.
Guy 1: Oh, you know me, ****. Kid gloves... but made from real kids.


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Guy listening to and commenting on a News Interview where a politician is talking about diarrhea in 3rd world countries (IIRC):
"This is the minister of international development here, he should be talking about... food parcels... not... f**king, arse-spraying mayhem!"


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Freehold DM wrote:
Set wrote:

[tangent]

Pah or Pao Zhaan or something. She was definitely a favorite, but the makeup was apparently reacting badly with her skin.

Zhaan, Crichton and Aeryn Sun (and Pilot, of the 'muppets') were my favorites, and everyone else, kind of 'meh.'

As for Highlander, yes. There can be only one. I liked the series, for the most part, but am much happier in my own little world where there was only one Highlander movie, ever. Also only two Alien movies, and no 'Chronicles of Riddick' sequel to Pitch Black, and only a couple Predator movies, and only the one Crow movie, and only one Prophecy movie, and Stargate Universe kept going for four seasons and the Battlestar Galactica reboot died in pre-production...

Really, it's more of an Alternate Universe I'm in, at this point, and I'm on a barge in the middle of de Nile, in sun god robes, with thousands of people screaming and throwing tiny pickles at me.
[/tangent]

And that's my movie quote.

"Are you on top of a pyramid, in sun god robes, and thousands of people are screaming and throwing tiny pickles at you? No? Why am I the only one who has that dream?"

I loved Alien Vs. Predator(first one anyway) and Predators both. I loved the Aliens novels/comics and enjoyed keeping the fandom alive while people were breaking their VHS tapes watching the same damn scene over and over and over and over... Sorry, I'm a bit defensive on this one.

Okay so YOURE the other person that like PREDATORS! Hey Neighbor!!

Yeah I cant hang with you on either of the Alien Vs. Predator movies though...


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I'm saying this as someone who has no intention of supporting 5E at all.
If it were a game that I was interested in supporting, even at $60? I'm probably going to buy the game.

Because overall if I'm gaming even once a month for 4 - 5 hours? The book will have paid for itself (in entertainment value) in a few months.

I bought Borderlands 2 back when it first came out in 2012. I bought most if not all of the DLC's so that's close to $80 I spent on a video game that I bought 2 years ago. THAT I'M STILL PLAYING NOW. More than worth it.

On the other hand...I bought the 4E Gift Set off Amazon for about $50 and only ran and played the game a few times. There was a case where I didnt get my moneys worth.

My HERO SYSTEM 5th edition book I bought many years ago for $50? (It might have been $40?) I'e used the HOLY HELL out of that book. Even though I dont play anymore, during the time that I did? FUN QUOTIENT > money spent.

These days I dont buy a game system unless I know that there's going to be a good chance of me running or playing it. There was one recent exception and that was the FATE Core Rulebook. But it was just $25 and perfect so...


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Imbicatus wrote:
Sebastrd wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:

"You ever try a pink golf ball, Wally? Why, the wind shear alone on a pink golf ball can take the head off a 90-pound midget at over 300 yards."

And

"You have failed me for the last... nice shoes!"

Caddyshack?

Not even close. Here are a couple more from the same movie:

"You're listening to K-LOST, home of the Apocalypse. The call in question of the day is, who will be the new king? I'm sending in an ICBM across the wasteland for all of you on the yellow brick road to Vegas looking for a hero. If you find one send him my way, baby."

And

"Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me!"

SIX STRING SAMURAI.


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Sissyl wrote:

Yep. And the first one? Another hint:

Old man: "Looking at the cake is like looking at the future, until you've tasted it what do you really know? And then, of course, it's too late.

[The other man takes a bite]

Old man: Too late."

EXCALIBUR


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Freehold DM wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Man, I can't get this day started without extra foam atop my cappuccino...

leaves cup by ShinHakkaider

There we go....

Sorry man. I thought we were back to talking about comics and movies again and then...well you know...

I don't drink coffee by the way. But I appreciate the gesture.

I was kidding around saying that I was getting extra foam from your diatribe... But its not funny if I have to explain it.

Totally misinterpreted that one.


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Rynjin wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:


Also, he doesnt need to look like a buff huge guy in human form. All he needs is to be able to pull off THE VOICE when he's in Thing form. Beyond that? I dont care what he looks like as a human. I'm there to see the Thing and hear him say "IT'S CLOBBERING TIME!!!!".

Problem being that necessitates ANOTHER background change.

Sorry, I just don't see this scrawny British guy as a football star and fighter pilot.

To an extent I agree. I have no idea of that guy's actual body type or frame. I mean he could bulk up? Chris Helmsworth isnt always that buff between roles. Also Christian Bale between his roles in The Machinist (120lbs?) and Batman Begins(220lbs). I mean that COULDNT have been healthy but it can be done.


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Matthew Morris wrote:


By his logic, I can say that all of Harlem is homophobic because of this guy. I choose not to.

Well if you read the article you really couldn't say that all of Harlem is homophobic because pretty much EVERYONE else interviewed there is speaking out about how that preacher was WRONG.

But that's if you actually read the article and not just pulled it out to prove a point.


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Matthew Morris wrote:


I just find Shin's "You don't agree with me, so you're racist" drek annoying and lazy. If he wants to be a bigot and generalize a group of people, he's free to do so. I'm better than that.

Actually NO, YOURE NOT.

You just called the black guy who you'e chosen to pick a fight with intellectually lazy.

In a thread where people are discussing super hero comics and the validity of someone of a different race playing a pre-established white character.

ME intellectually lazy in THIS THREAD?

*Booster Gold Laugh*BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!*Booster Gold Laugh*


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Freehold DM wrote:

Man, I can't get this day started without extra foam atop my cappuccino...

leaves cup by ShinHakkaider

There we go....

Sorry man. I thought we were back to talking about comics and movies again and then...well you know...

I don't drink coffee by the way. But I appreciate the gesture.


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Matthew Morris wrote:
Bill Dunn wrote:
Sebastrd wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
My experiences because of my race and living in America have molded and shaped who I am. Because I'm raising a little boy I have to prepare him to survive in a country where people simply view him as a potential threat no matter how good of a person he is.
In what God-forsaken hell did you grow up? I'm not denying your experiences in any way. I'm genuinely curious.
The same country as Trayvon Martin.
Yuo mean the racist slur using kid who was suspended from school, boasted about his getting into fights and who jumped someone and was pounding his head against the sidewalk?

Translation: this uppity little darkie deserved to be murdered by this fine upstanding citizen who was told NOT to approach the uppity negro and wait for the police.

I see you for what you are Matthew. You call me a bigot but I think that you're ignoring your own reflection. Liking black comic book characters isn't the same as liking ACTUAL black people. Actual people and their situations are a bit more complex. You discount those experiences and how those people cope with them for the simple black and white attitude of "oh he's not mild mannered and subservient like the other negroes!! He's a bigot!!!"

I'm not a fictional character Matthew. You don't know me, at all. Im saying nothing, NOTHING and with no less passion than LGBT advocates on other threads have said about being LGBT. And there are waaaaaaay more of them here. Go pick a fight with them.


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Matthew Morris wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:

Gee, looks like I touched a nerve.

Sorry to hold a mirro up to you Shin. Sometimes you have to face yourself and see you've become what you loathe.

Making assumptions about a group of people... shame on you.

MM, going to need some serious citations on your earlier posts. I know what Shin is talking about,even if I don't agree with it 100% and think he should put some points into diplomacy/Charisma come level-up time. What you are talking about sounds a lot like one white guy from middle America wondering when everyone else in the world is going to realize that they're wrong.

Actually do a quick google search on "Why is green lantern white" and you'll get a lot of hits, including the answers.

I just find Shin's "You don't agree with me, so you're racist" drek annoying and lazy. If he wants to be a bigot and generalize a group of people, he's free to do so. I'm better than that.

By his logic, I can say that all of Harlem is homophobic because of this guy. I choose not to.

That's yours and a few others fairly myopic interpretation of what I'm saying. And I'm also looking to see where I've personally insulted ANY of you. Like I said before I'm not gonna sit and play the simple, subservient negro for you or anyone else who blithely ignores things that don't immediately effects them. You want to do that FINE. But don't tell me that my concerns are completely invalid by waving your hands and going HEY WHAT ABOUT THIS OVER HERE.


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I love Negation. Only guy there without any powers was the black guy and he was the damn hero of the hour leading everyone.

Crossgen series right? Never read any of those although I heard that they're quite good.


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By creating new heroes?
By retconning white heroes? (which there are plenty of)
I don't know. But what I do know is 'because that's how it's always been' should never be a valid excuse.

No one's gonna care about new heroes in the big two. Because they're not the old heroes. and because most if not all of the iconic heroes are all white? We're gonna continue to get a whitewashing of heroes. ESPECIALLY over at DC.

I think Marvel has always had more grounded, down to earth and diverse roster of heroes. Which is why we're going to be seeing the Falcon and have seen Rhodey in the Iron Man films. It's why we're going to be seeing Luke Cage on TV. It's why we're seeing Deathlok on AGENTS OF SHIELD.

Would I love to see an actual Black Panther Movie? Sure. But would anyone outside of Black Panther fans go see it? not really sure.

As for Retconning White heroes? I say no. Just so that we dont have to deal with the backlash from the mostly white male comic base. Even if it were a legacy thing where someone like Mr. Terrific uses the name and carries on the legacy from his Golden Age counterpart the base would still cry "We could have gotten a golden age Mr. Terrific story!! instead we've got this politically correct crap. We dont need anymore quotas!! Get your own heroes!!!" Type stuff we heard when Ultimate Peter Parker DIED and Miles Morales stepped in to carry on the legacy...

I agree with you on how "that's how it's always been" should never be a valid excuse but the comic book fan base loves their heroes. And they like them the way that they are and dont want them to change, AT ALL. And if that's the case then youre looking at a mostly white and mostly male roster. That's what they want to see.

I mean people were even complaining about the addition of Cyborg in the JL in the New 52...

I've pretty much cut DC out of my comic buying since the begnning of New 52. The only DC printed title that I buy religiously is ASTRO CITY.

Marvel is very close to being dropped as well. AND I LOVE MARVEL. But a lot of thier books feel like their just following a scripted plan with very little life and or spark. Notable (and surprising) exceptions are: Ultimate Comics Spider-Man, Superior Foes of Spider-Man (this book is as funny as HELL), Captain America, Uncanny Avengers (Every other issue of this book feels like a HOLY CRAP moment. Seriously it's the best X-Avengers book that no one is talking about). New Avengers doesn't come out nearly enough.

I'm a big fan of Valiant and am reading almost all of their titles except Quantum and Woody.
Also Image is more diverse than both Marvel and DC I think. Not a cohesive super hero universe but even within one book like Kirkman's INVINCIBLE you had at least 4 black male characters appearing within the first 20 issues. One of them becoming a MAJOR villian and another one even taking over the mantle of Invincible for a short while later on in the book.

I think to an extent if headway is going to be made in terms of minority heroes and stories it's not going to be in the big two. It's going to be through creator owned books like at Image.


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GreyWolfLord wrote:

The biggest problem I foresee isn't the racial issue, but ignoring anything and everything from the Comic. If you cast the Storms as two different races...as opposed to them being genetic brother and sister in the comic, cast Ben Grimm as a 90 lb weakling, despite the fact that he's the second strongest Marvel character next to the Hulk (Grimm would disagree and say he was the strongest), cast Reed Richards as the same age as the Storms (though in Ultimates he was very close in age, the more traditional has him as the older white sideburns guy), and cast Dr Doom as a woman instead of a man...

It's like simply taking the name of the FF and writing something entirely different then what the source material covers.

At least that's the indications...so the bigger question is with them basically ignoring every character background (apparently), is this really going to be a FF movie, or an action flick which just so happens to be titled Fantastic Four?

Okay first off, The Thing is NOT the second strongest Marvel character next to The Hulk anymore I would think. If youre talking THE ENTIRE Marvel Universe? he's not even close. I'd rate Gladiator above him as well as Thor.

Also, he doesnt need to look like a buff huge guy in human form. All he needs is to be able to pull off THE VOICE when he's in Thing form. Beyond that? I dont care what he looks like as a human. I'm there to see the Thing and hear him say "IT'S CLOBBERING TIME!!!!".

Reed close to the same age as the Storms isnt that big of an issue for me. The protrayal of a strong willed but compassionate Sue Storm is. Jessica Alba wasnt able to pull that off so Kate Mara hopefully will. I think that she's a good enough actress to do it.

And even though Josh Trank has already said that a female Doom is a false rumor and as much as I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE DOOM when he's done right. I dont think I'd be too adverse to a female DOOM is she's able to pull off the presence and the menace of DOOM, which the last guy wasnt. Lena Headley would be PERFECT.


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Listen people, not all black people are the same.
I'm not Martin Luther King jr. or Jackie Robinson. When I'm struck for no reason? My first instinct is to break the arm that stuck me.

There seems to be thee idea that in the face of racism that I should be consistently turning the other cheek while some of you feel more comfortable labeling me a racist for not doing so while ignoring the actual racist stuff that I'm responding to.

To everyone here talking about this in good faith I'm honestly sorry if anything that I've said has offended you.


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Rynjin wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:


Please Rynjin, show me EXACTLY where I said I was teaching my son "that the white man is out to get him."

WHERE?

Don't play this game where just because you didn't say the EXACT WORDS means you didn't say something.

You said you were "preparing your son to survive" in what you perceive as a hostile environment, after citing statistics that compare black and white "violent appearance quotients".

There's not really any other way to read that.

ShinHakkaider wrote:
I have no right as his father who has lived in this country and experienced a lot of these things that YOU and others here have discounted, to actually prepare him for how he's perceived in this country?

Which is essentially exactly what old crusty white men are thinking when they pass down their family line that blacks have "a place" and it's not an equal one.

It's wrong on both sides.

ShinHakkaider wrote:
My goal is to keep him SAFE. YOUR GOAL is to keep him IGNORANT.

"My goal"?

I have no goal. I'm just pointing out what I see in your posts. You have a very "us vs them" mentality.

It's already shaped your opinion of me, assuming I have some kind of agenda simply because I disagree with you, and I'm not black.

My only "goal" is to make you aware of that.

ShinHakkaider wrote:
You crossed a line here Rynjin. Dont do it again.
The internet tough guy act is beneath you.

First let's address this last thing. There is no tough guy act. I'd be saying the exact same things that I say to here on this board in your face. Believe that.

Second, that fear of young black men that you've so obviously completely discarded? (Remember you haven't exactly said it but the fact that you're so quick to point out my reaction to it without acknowledging its existence is pretty much the same thing.) not only whites, it's Asians, Hispanics and yes EVEN OTHER BLACK PEOPLE *shocker!!!* West Indian and blacks from the carribean don't think much of American born blacks either.

But hey...keep making with the assumptions there buck-o.

I'm clarifying here not because I give a good gosh darn about you or Arianna's judgement of me but because obviously I did such a bang up job of stating it the first time.

Growing up as a young black male in this country is a very different experience than growing up as a young white male in this country. Your merit doesn't matter. Your being a good person doesn't matter. Your level of integrity doesn't matter. What you look like? MATTERS. There are things that his white friends may be able to get away with that he most certainly won't. If he's with a group of his friends and there's trouble? He's in all likelyhood going to be singled out for the cause of that trouble in the group.

I have to prepare him to BE CAREFUL. Not to hate. But not to put himself in any situation that will have him wind up like a Jordan Davis or a Traavon Martin or any of the countless young black men wrongly murdered because they were, quite simply, young black men.

If I didn't prepare him for that very real reality? Then any of you here basically trying to call me an awful parent might hurt a bit. But since none of you taking me to task are black males who have grown up in the US? And are willfully denying the existence of any such view of black males in this country. Your opinion means exactly NOTHING to me. Come back to me when your raising your own adopted black male children after their first actual brush with how cruel and racist this country can be.

It doesn't register because It's not you and yours. And that's okay. But it is me and mine and better him warned and prepared than not.


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Freehold DM wrote:
I know what Shin is talking about,even if I don't agree with it 100% and think he should put some points into diplomacy/Charisma come level-up time.

You know I totally would put those points into Diplomacy but I think they'd be better spent on Sense Motive...


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ShinHakkaider wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Spawn generic? I'm sorry you feel that way, I think he's a great black anti-hero. It makes me wonder if you would accept a black character who wasn't part of a race-based dialogue.

To be fair I only read up to the first 10-12 issues of the original run. McFarlane's writing wasnt doing the book any favors at all. And after the guest runs by Moore and Gaiman highlighted the rift in ability between them and McFarlane I dropped the book.

Also, does me liking pre New52 Mr. Terrific count? Because he was pretty vanilla as vanilla goes.

Mr terrific.... I dunno. His book was canceled. Not much has been seen from him since. I loved the fact that he was an atheist black superhero to an extent of but I had to wonder whether or not this was going in a rewarding reverse-stereotypes direction, especially when he started dating power girl (although that last may be jealousy talking).

Wait...WHAT?!? Dating Power Girl?!?

...

What were we talking about again?


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Rynjin wrote:
Bill Dunn wrote:


The same country as Trayvon Martin.

Jesus f%&+ing christ don't try and turn this into any more of a flame war than Shin already has attempted (and partially succeeded) to do.

ShinHakkaider wrote:
Bill Dunn wrote:
Sebastrd wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
My experiences because of my race and living in America have molded and shaped who I am. Because I'm raising a little boy I have to prepare him to survive in a country where people simply view him as a potential threat no matter how good of a person he is.
In what God-forsaken hell did you grow up? I'm not denying your experiences in any way. I'm genuinely curious.
The same country as Trayvon Martin.

And Jordan Davis and multitudes of young black males who were perceived as threats and killed either by law enforcement or civilian vigilantes.

I'll just leave this here.

I have to wonder why you think it's a good idea to teach your son that "the white man is out to get him", thereby putting him on the defensive, thereby making him subconsciously more hostile to non-blacks, thereby making him APPEAR MORE THREATENING.

You're just contributing at this point. It's racism whether you're black OR white you know.

Please Rynjin, show me EXACTLY where I said I was teaching my son "that the white man is out to get him."

WHERE?

Because it's not something that affects you and yours it doenst exist? And I have no right as his father who has lived in this country and experienced a lot of these things that YOU and others here have discounted, to actually prepare him for how he's perceived in this country?

My goal is to keep him SAFE. YOUR GOAL is to keep him IGNORANT.

You crossed a line here RynJin. Dont do it again.


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Sebastrd wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
My experiences because of my race and living in America have molded and shaped who I am. Because I'm raising a little boy I have to prepare him to survive in a country where people simply view him as a potential threat no matter how good of a person he is.
In what God-forsaken hell did you grow up? I'm not denying your experiences in any way. I'm genuinely curious.

I grew up in NYC in the 80's and 90's. Particularly during Elenor Bumpers and Michael Stewart, Yusef Hawkins, Sean Bell, Abner Luima and Amadu Diallo.

There's also Giuliani's NYC which to white people here was a godsend but if you were young black and male (and not a criminal) in the city at time it was pretty awful. Harassment at the hands of NYPD was pretty constant. All you pretty much needed to do was fit a vague description of a suspect and you'd get stopped. And it didnt matter if theyd stopped you just the other day while you were going to get groceries theyd just stop you again, throw you stuff on the floor and then knowing it wasnt you that they were looking for would just say "youre free to go" and "have a nice day". And if you questioned in ANY WAY you ran the risk of getting a beat down right there in the street.

Also Dont ever let anyone tell you that New Yorkers are less racist than any other part of the country. They aren't. They just mask it under a false veneer of civility and/or ambivalence. It's why when I see shows like Seinfeld and Friends and people complain "Dont these people have any black friends? I mean it's NY? Right?" I say "nope. That's about right. Still pretty segregated here."

Admittedly it's a little less so now but still.

I mean I love my city. But I know my city.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Spawn generic? I'm sorry you feel that way, I think he's a great black anti-hero. It makes me wonder if you would accept a black character who wasn't part of a race-based dialogue.

To be fair I only read up to the first 10-12 issues of the original run. McFarlane's writing wasnt doing the book any favors at all. And after the guest runs by Moore and Gaiman highlighted the rift in ability between them and McFarlane I dropped the book.

Also, does me liking pre New52 Mr. Terrific count? Because he was pretty vanilla as vanilla goes.

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