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Fergurg wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
Fergurg wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
Fergurg wrote:
MagusJanus wrote:

This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.

Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.

Rinse, cycle, repeat.

"Quit calling my group violent or else me and my group will attack and kill you!" has never worked for any group, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway.
More like stop murdering our unarmed civilians. If you really think this is JUST (Emphasis here by the way, NOT shouting. Just to be clear...) about being called "violent" then that explains a lot about your particular tone deafness on this subject.

But that's what the underlying complaint is - people assuming that Black men are violent, and therefore, force is used against them more.

I'm just going to ask, based on your previous postings and the hatred you have toward this country and its countrymen, and I want an honest yes or no answer. Do you believe these execution-style killings were justified?

If thejeff or Freehold DM asked me that question I'd be inclined to give THEM an honest answer since while we dont agree on everything they at least approach our discussions with an attempt at respect and empathy.

So yeah, no "honest" answer for you there Fergurg.

So I will assume that the answer is "yes" until you say otherwise, and will treat you accordingly.

You already had your mind made up about how you were going to treat me there Furg.

You pretty much ignored EVERYTHING else that I said to go after my expression of frustration with this country and my countrymen. But you're just entitled enough to think that I OWE YOU some sort of explanation of that frustration. That my frustration somehow makes me dangerous or evil or everything that you need to believe that I am.

Comply. Comply. Comply.

I said that over and over again. Comply not out of respect for the law but because they have guns and dont like your skin color and they will KILL YOU if you dont.

But to you I'm not a frustrated and angry father.

I'm just some irrational, angry stereotype of a black guy.

Your concern for my actual opinion is disingenuous and insulting. Talk to me about the fear that I feel for myself and my child as an unarmed civilian having to worry about both criminals AND the police who are supposed to be protecting us from them THEN we can have an "honest" conversation.

I understand that as a man, there are certain things that I don't have to worry about or concern myself with that a woman has to place near or at the top of her concern list. Sexual Assault, unwanted harassing behavior, etc.

You are the guy who is basically saying: hey don't wear provocative clothing and maybe you wont get raped.

Or to be more accurate: Hey stop being black and maybe you wont get harassed and murdered.

Yeah Furg. Youre THAT guy.


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Fergurg wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
Fergurg wrote:
MagusJanus wrote:

This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.

Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.

Rinse, cycle, repeat.

"Quit calling my group violent or else me and my group will attack and kill you!" has never worked for any group, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway.
More like stop murdering our unarmed civilians. If you really think this is JUST (Emphasis here by the way, NOT shouting. Just to be clear...) about being called "violent" then that explains a lot about your particular tone deafness on this subject.

But that's what the underlying complaint is - people assuming that Black men are violent, and therefore, force is used against them more.

I'm just going to ask, based on your previous postings and the hatred you have toward this country and its countrymen, and I want an honest yes or no answer. Do you believe these execution-style killings were justified?

If thejeff or Freehold DM asked me that question I'd be inclined to give THEM an honest answer since while we dont agree on everything they at least approach our discussions with an attempt at respect and empathy.

So yeah, no "honest" answer for you there Fergurg.


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Fergurg wrote:
MagusJanus wrote:

This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.

Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.

Rinse, cycle, repeat.

"Quit calling my group violent or else me and my group will attack and kill you!" has never worked for any group, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway.

More like stop murdering our unarmed civilians. If you really think this is JUST (Emphasis here by the way, NOT shouting. Just to be clear...) about being called "violent" then that explains a lot about your particular tone deafness on this subject.


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My concern right now is that the NYPD and their unilateral supporters are going to use this as an excuse to continue to brutalize, harass and murder men of color in this city.

This thing is quite literally the last thing that we need right now.

*SMH*


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Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.

I dont know seeing that the GOP hates the current President they probably wouldn't mind seeing him dead.


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Tinkergoth wrote:

Given the fact that they still haven't remade Final Fantasy VII, and appear unlikely to ever do so despite the fact that it would almost certainly be an instant cash cow for them (I'd buy a PS4 just to play a remake of VII), I think this will sadly remain just a fantasy.

It's a nice dream to have though.

Not a remake proper but they are Porting FF VII to the PS4 early next year.

I personally cant wait. I have my original discs but my old PS3 with the hardware emulation needs some repair.


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ShadowcatX wrote:
The time to worry about your rights is when you're safe. Until things change significantly, when you're dealing with a cop, worry about not getting shot. (Especially if you're not caucasian.)

Pretty much this.

I've told my son a few simple things.

The police are not your friends. They are not there to help you. Because they deal with criminals who mostly look like you? To them youre just another criminal. If you can avoid them STAY AWAY.

If you are confronted. Be calm. be polite and comply.

If they want you to jump up and down on one leg and recite the our father? Comply.

If they want you to lay face down on the dirty sidewalk with your arms spread out! Comply.

Comply. Comply. Comply.

Because if you do not? THEY WILL KILL YOU. and then say it was your fault because you have no true right to exist as a human being. And unfortunately most of this country agrees with them.

So Swallow your pride. Comply and Live.

I've been telling him this since he was 10. He's going to be 13 in a few weeks. The amount of pure HATRED I feel for my countrymen and this country in general because I have to prepare him like this at such a young age is maddening. But at the end of the day I'd rather have him humiliated, but home and alive than proud and in a graveyard in a pine box.

I know that there are some of you who are going to be quick to say I'm an awful parent or am teaching him hatred. Some of you have voiced this before. To you I'm going to say one thing: When you are raising a young black male in this country and have also grown up as a young black male in this country THEN MAYBE I'll take seriously anything that you have to say. IF not Then youre just talking about a bunch of things that you know next to NOTHING about.


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Fergurg wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Fergurg wrote:
I do agree that there is a high number motivated by racism. I just don't believe that racism is the default answer to shootings, and many people do, even after proof is shown otherwise.
OK, next question: granted that it is less than 100%, what percentage of police shootings motivated by racism is acceptable to you? I think that's what the source of strife is here -- most people would answer "zero" rather than merely "any is okay because we know it's not 100%."

This isn't about whether or police shootings motivated by racism is acceptable. It is about whether or not it is acceptable to automatically assume that police killings are motivated by racism.

Take the case in New York with Eric Garner. Looked like a combination of incompetence and tempers flaring up due to the fact that the cop and the suspect had a history, and not a pleasant one. But unless somehow the black supervisor on the scene was somehow a race traitor, the death was not because he was black.

BTW: You want a conspiracy theory? I got one, and I don't think it's too far-fetched: Garner's legal issues, and the reason he knew that particular cop, were related to not paying cigarette taxes. The mayor of NYC loves himself some taxes. The people who elected him, the same people who would be part of the grand jury pool, elected a man who campaigned on raising taxes.

Is it just me, or does this sound like a "Business man didn't pay the money we wanted him to pay. Sure was a tragic 'accident' what happened to him. If only he had paid, that could have been avoided."

I hate to pull this particular card, but as a mostly life long new yorker, you're in the wrong here. Staten Island has had issues with heavy handed enforcement with respect to minor crime from police FOR YEARS, and while I do think race plays a role here, it pales in comparison to how that particular neighborhood is patroled. Note that they got the guy selling loosies in front of a store in...

EXACTLY.

My mom lived in Crown Heights (actually still does) in the 80's and 90's and that neighborhood was ROUGH. Drug dealers and other a-holes literally plied their trade right in front of my mom's building and in front of the bodega across the street.

Most of the people in that neighborhood were working stiffs, my mom included and the people there were sick of this crap and the violence and called the police on these guys frequently.

Guess what? The cops either never showed up or would show up some time later. Sometimes even hours later. this was the pattern with them.

As soon as some white people moved into the neighborhood all of that started to change. All of a sudden the patrol cars started to come around more often and the neighborhood felt safer. And because it felt safer more white people moved in. And then there was a bigger police presence and the neighborhood got safer.

Now my mom's neighborhood is gentrified. Racist white people look at that and say "If they couldn't clean up their own neighborhood they don't deserve it" (and yes I've actually heard someone say this) and they willfully ignore the reality of the actual situation. I don't think it's the fault of the whites who moved into my mom's neighborhood seeking lower rent but they don't quite realize the extent of what their unseen privilege buys them either.

And the cops? They do tend go after the easy targets (not always though). Ive literally seen these guys go after two or three black / brown guys at the W4th b-ball court area for drinking a beverage out of a brown bag (in this instance it wasn't even an alcoholic beverage and they were made to dump it out) while ignoring the obviously drunken white frat boys across the street.

See the thing is, people think that black and brown people and a few white people who actually pay attention and know whats up are making all of this stuff up. They refuse to take any word of abuse or poor behavior from the police as anything other than black and brown people complaining and lying.


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I'll join in here as well. It just seems that the boards are filled with people who just like to criticize Paizo and the devs and the staff.

I have my issues with Paizo but it's never been based on the product or customer service or the rules. It's why I'm still here and still supporting them.

I'm at a point in my life where I'm looking around at this country and realizing that it really may not be a place that I want to be in order to continue raising my son. I feel the same way about my favorite hobby RPG's. I dont want to introduce him or get him involved to the extent that I've been for just over 30 years.

Even with all that and how I feel about the RPG community (whether it's founded or not) I STILL support Paizo because I feel that they do EXCELLENT work. They listen to their customers and really work to give them A) What they want B) a Good product. Some products are better than others but that's the nature of the production beast.

Either way, much respect to Lisa, Vic, Erik, Jason, Mark, Wes, James and anyone else that I'm forgetting.

You keep producing and I'll keep supporting with one caveat:

I live in a 2 BR apt in Queens NY with my patient and loving wife, my 12 year old son and our amazing dog Biscuit. I have ONE bookcase for RPG's and another one for Comics (trades and Omnibuses). Boardgames and the like either go in the closet (with my 6 WH40K armies. Yes, more hobby stuff occupy my closet space than clothes and I have a LOT of clothes) or a top the bookcases.
I have another bookcase specifically dedicated to RPG's.

As of IRON GODS? My two dedicated Paizo shelves are FULL.

This means I've got to offload some of my 3.5 stuff or stop with the new Paizo stuff. My wife is patient...BUT NOT THAT PATIENT. LOL.


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Marc Radle wrote:
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Hobbit3 is best of the bunch so go see it
Are you saying you've seen it? I thought it comes out this coming week ...

Also there have been screenings here in NYC over the past 2 weeks or so. I've just barely missed getting into a few due to scheduling conflicts so I'll be seeing it with the rank and file this week...


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Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Sometimes your life is worth less than the cost of a movie ticket.

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HELL?!?

Ugh.


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Hama wrote:
Dude. The show is for kids.

So was Justice League (Everything after A Finer World) & Justice League Unlimited (The ENTIRE season long CADMUS arc).

So was Batman Beyond (Out of the Past) and Young Justice (ALL OF SEASON 2)

Even original Teen Titans Animated series had some pretty DARK episodes (.vs Trigon, Robin vs. Slade).

Just because it's for kids doesn't mean that it has to be weak sauce story and theme wise.


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COBRA'S WEATHER DOMINATOR.


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Aranna wrote:

It is aimed at a younger audience than Clone Wars was at the end.

Clone Wars got DARKER at the end.

It was pretty harsh during season 1. I'm pointing to two episodes in particular CLOAK OF DARKNESS (Episode 9) and LAIR OF GREVIOUS (Episode 10)?

COD was the one where Assaj Ventress is sent to either rescue or assassinate Nute Gunray (we're not sure which until near the end). There's a pretty violent on screen death at the end of that episode that kinda knocked me back a bit while watching it with my then 6-7 year old son.

Or the following episode where Kit Fisto and his Padawan take on Gen Grevious in his lair? Which again results in another on screen death that's pretty brutal (for an American produced kids show).

I think the show was already dark in the first season. But compared to later seasons (Including the fate of a certain group of clone troopers... *sniff* Fives *sniff*) I could see how it might look like it was sunshine and butterflies.


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In Clan of the White Lotus, it opens with the main character and his brother fighting the bad guy (or was it the bad guy's brother?) fighting. Eh, it's been a while, if you couldn't tell.

Yeah, at the beginning Hung Wei Ting and Hu Ah Biao are fighting and defeat Pai-Mei. It's Priest White Lotus, Pai-Mei's classmate who comes after them for revenge later on and sets off the chain of events for the rest of the film.


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Pretty much any Venoms era Shaw Bros movie.

In fact Quite a few martial arts films, it almost seems to be a staple where the surviving good guys HAVE to team up to fight the main bad guy because he's just that good.

Now that I think about it? The final fight in the first THE RAID film with Rama (the lead) and Andi vs. Mad Dog is one of the best recent examples of the heroes pretty much being out classed and out fought by a tougher and more skilled opponent.

Start at around 2:20.

another really good example is the end fight of the underrated Shaw Bros classic MAGNIFICENT RUFFIANS.

HERE

This fight really kicks into high gear at around the 2:28 mark. They try to each take the bad guy individually before that but realize at a certain point that they have to try and take him together.


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Auren "Rin" Cloudstrider wrote:
actually, Star Wars was one of my favorite franchises when i was a small child and Outlaw Star was one of my favorite anime series growing up. what both have in common is you have a massive amount of species, high technology and powerful magic intergrated with the technology. for example, the Jedi are wizards who wield switchbladed swords that have blades made out of superheated Plasma and Gene Starwind Fires a heavy pistol that uses special arcane ammunition.

This.

And also a show that does technology and magic pretty well?

AVATAR: THE LAST AIRBENDER and the LEGEND OF KORRA.


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I kind of hope that it does. The human race is pure garbage. May this planet needs and enima..

SKYNET!!!! HEED MY CALL!!!


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I think people here have a very different definition of what "good" is or how "good" works than I do.

Selling yourself into slavery isn't exactly what you'd call "good". How bad did things have to get for a person to sell themselves as chattel? If you are slave to a master can that master beat or rape you with impunity? As a slave do have any rights? More importantly, as with here in the US, how much of those rights ACTUALLY protect you and how much of those protections aren't worth the paper they're printed on?

A "good" outcome would be someone apprenticing that person in a trade or skill so that they could eventually sustain themselves again. There are always going to be lazy screw ups who don't want to do anything and leech off of the populace but I believe a fair amount to the people want to EARN what they want.

But Good? Just like Evil has to be an active thing. You have to be ACTIVELY doing something to promote (don't know if that's the right word in this case...) "Good" or "evil". Thinking good thoughts isn't cutting it. Thinking evil thoughts isn't cutting it.

The very notion of owning another person whether it's against their will or voluntarily is abhorrent to me personally but no matter how many times I hear it, I'm always surprised by the matter-of-factly way people discuss any type of slavery.


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Rogar Stonebow wrote:
There were a minute # of slave owners who treated the slaves with respect. Even friends. The slave owner worked the fields with the slaves and were truly only slavers because that was only way to save them. They educated their slaves which was against the law. If you called that slavery would you call it evil still.
I've got some swampland for sale. I have a feeling you might be the buyer I have been looking for.

I'm glad that you addressed this. This is typical right-wing revisionism to put forth the idea that "Hey! American Slavery wasn't that bad! See another thing that these silly negroes cant complain about anymore!"

There may HAVE been an arrangement or two like this. But the vast majority of them were the other type.


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Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
The fact that America is generally a good place to live, work and invest suggests it is probably a lot more lawful than that. Real chaos would be somewhere like Somalia.
So...LE then? ;-)

I'm not even joking when even in my teen years I've always viewed the US as a Lawful Evil society. Even more so now as an adult.


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Fergie wrote:

While I have a lot to say on the subject, (I started the original thread) the discussion of race turns toxic pretty quick.

We have basically been asked to have the discussion elsewhere, especially while the office is closed for the holiday/weekend.

I would encourage everyone to take a look at the current state of protesting in the US and read up on the Miami Model of protest policing. Perhaps suggesting ways to protest for positive change might result in a more civil thread, but I suggest waiting until at least Monday, and probably taking the discussion to another site.

Chris Lambertz wrote:
Just a quick note here: paizo.com is honestly probably not the appropriate place on the internet to discuss this issue, and related threads have not resulted all that well. Following this post, any posts that don't adhere to our Community Guidelines may result in us choosing to lock this thread. Given the upcoming holiday and limited staffing, I'm unsure we can properly facilitate this discussion without willingness on all participants to follow them. So be cool to each other guys.

EDIT: I'm not trying to speak for the moderators, just repeating what they said.

I'm just going to say this one thing and then I'm done.

Having discussions on race especially concerning blacks and whites on a board like this is extremely problematic as it basically comes down to a bunch of white guys / girls or generally non-black people talking to / at each other. With the exception of Freehold GM, Myself and maybe one or two other people I don't think that that having a pretty one sided discussion about race relations is productive here at all.

This community has no problem standing up to people who come here and depict the LGBT community in a negative light or standing up to posters who victim blame women and LGBT members. But this same community, with a few exceptions (I'm looking specifically at thejeff and Comrade Anklebiter among a few others) generally has no issue with doing the same to an entire community of color. Or staying relatively silent about it when it's done. It's understandable. Most people have a mother/daughter/aunt/sister in their lives and these days at least more than a few people know someone who is LGBT or at least questioning within their own groups. Not so much with black people of any real stripe at least in this community it seems. That's not an indictment guys/ladies. Just numbers it seems.

So yeah I agree. I don't think these forums are a good place to discuss racial issues at all.


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Atrocious wrote:
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Atrocious wrote:
Fergie wrote:
Atrocious wrote:
You don't actually think police are less likely to shoot an armed/violent white criminal than they are a black one do you?

I absolutely, positively, 100% think the police are statistically more likely to shoot a black person then a white person, given the same set of circumstances. Maybe it is different in other areas, but that seems to be the case where I live. For example, in my county, there was a wealth white guy in a wealthy area who SHOT AT POLICE WITH AN AK-47 - he left uninjured. Compare that with the black vet who was killed by police - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Kenneth_Chamberlain,_Sr.

I fully encourage you test that theory by grabbing a gun and threatening some police officers then. Have fun.
worked well enough for the guy in ferries county.

I'm not sure what case you're referring to.

Regardless I'm not interested.

You people may dismiss my posts are trolling if you prefer, but don't get upset with me when I point out that the most likely outcome will happen most of the time. Yes, you can probably find cases of white people not getting shot when they should have and black people getting shot when they shouldn't. This is what is known as anecdotal evidence.

The overwhelming body of evidence that is statistics doesn't support a police war on black people. I do however accept the notion that black people don't trust the police.

The fact that black people don't trust police is due to them being told their entire lives that they shouldn't, that the system is out to get them. I blame this on race-baiters like Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton and their ilk.

Regardless, I'm done with this thread and further discussion serves no purpose. The justice system has ruled, the evidence supports the police officer. Case closed.

Police war on black people? Overturned by statistics! Math can't lie!

Black people distrusting the police?...

Yes typical white supremacy at it's finest. If they didn't see it or experience it themselves? It doesn't exist or only exists in their (black peoples) minds as they are a lying race of liars who lie. and led by their noses and are incapable of thinking for themselves or counting their own experiences. AWESOME.

Honestly I dont even know how you do it Freehold DM. You have the patience of several saints.


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I'd like either Reed Richards level of intelligence or Tony Stark level of engineering ability. Ideally a combination of both.

I'd be solving problems all day and everyday.

Clean, Renewable energy sources? Done.

Non-Lethal Weaponry? Done.

Faster than Light Travel capabilities? Done.

Curing diseases (Cancer, HIV, Parkinsons, etc)? Done.

Building moon based Mass Drivers aimed at the earth? Done.

Wait...did I say that last bit out loud?


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I'm not a WOTC supporter by any means and have no intention of playing or supporting 5E but maybe you should wait until you actually get the book in your hands before you kinda write it off?

I know it sucks and your feelings are valid but just wait and see for yourself I think is probably your best bet. And then after persuing the book if it lacks what you wanted / expected? By all means act accordingly.

There are going to be a bunch of people who are going to come in here and lay into you by saying that your expectations were off base and or crazy and it's not WOTC's fault that youre upset and that youre a bad person for feeling the way that you do.

IGNORE THOSE PEOPLE.

Just hold off until you get the book IN YOUR HANDS. Then make up your own mind. It might not actually be that bad.


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. . . It was easily the weakest and most predictable of the crop of new Disney movies thus far and that's including Frozen in that bunch. Loved WRECK-IT-RALPH though.

Just out of curiosity, how would you make a children's movie unpredictable? How do you buck the "Good triumphs" and everybody who isn't evil gets to have a "Happy Ever After" without traumatizing a child?

I recently watched a three year old watch "How to Train Your Dragon" (...kind of age inappropriate, I know...) and the degree to which the child worried about Toothless and Hiccup surprised, endeared, and worried me all at once, especially during the near death scene at the end.

Children, despite what popular culture would have most people think, are not made of paper. Nor are their psyches so fragile that they wouldn't be able to take a modicum of sadness or brutality in their entertainment.

The first 5 - 10 Min of FINDING NEMO?
The first 5 - 10 Min of UP?
The reveal of the fates of the other supers in THE INCREDIBLES.
The end of IRON GIANT?
The first 5 -10 of Bambi?
The end of HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON 2?

When we sat down to watch FINDING NEMO for the first time that opening took my wife and I completely off guard, but the rest of the movie was a prime example of getting you invested in the main characters and REALLY wanting things to work out well for them BECAUSE of what happens in that opening sequence.

There was, for me at least, no investment in any of the characters (in BIG HERO 6) beyond knowing that the main character was going to go through the classic heroic journey.

One of the things that I really liked about the first HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON was that after the mid movie reveal, the stakes FELT high. And in the end the hero doesn't come out of it completely unscathed. His victory COSTS him something.

In WRECK IT RALPH, while a bit predicable (I figured out that someone wasn't exactly who they said they were but not WHO)also had characters who's motivations I understood and wanted to see them fulfilled. What surprised me a little were how high the stakes got and how far the main character was willing to go to save everyone. That's kinda what I mean by predictability.


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I wanted to like it. I was at the TOMORROWLAND/BIG HERO 6 panel at NYCC when they showed multiple clips of BIG HERO 6 and they did almost nothing to get me excited for the movie.

On the other hand I walked into that panel knowing NOTHING about TOMORROWLAND (other than it was being directed by Brad Bird)3 and after seeing an extended clip from THAT movie I cant wait until May.

Saw Big Hero 6 last week with the spouse and spawn and I remained unimpressed with it. It was easily the weakest and most predictable of the crop of new Disney movies thus far and that's including Frozen in that bunch. Loved WRECK-IT-RALPH though.


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Saw it at the Red Carpet Premiere a week ago today. Initially just wanted to see the movie but had a lot of fun at the Red Carpet Fan Event. Got pictures with Anne Hathaway (she's really good at actually taking pictures with fans), Jessica Chastain and really bad picture with Chris Nolan himself.

Then got seated for the movie at the HUGE Lincoln Center IMAX screen...IN THE 3RD ROW. It was not an ideal movie watching experience.
Still enjoyed the movie though and saw it again on Saturday morning in the same theater in much better seats and it was AMAZING.

IMAX 70MM is fantastic and the sound mix was INSANE. When the Ranger was taking off that first time to link up with the ENDURANCE I swear I felt that launch IN MY CHEST. More of these please, especially WITHOUT the 3D.

All of the performances were solid and Nolan lays out the setup for what happens in the last half of the film in the first half and during several of the discussions between Cooper, Brand, Rom and Doyle.

Also there needs to be TARS and CASE action figures as TARS might have been my favorite character in the movie.

4 Star movie. Please see it in the best possible theater that you can. This is a movie theater movie. Youre gonna lose a lot of the immersion on a regular 50" TV screen of an iPad...


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Referring to the original question:

No I'm not concerned. Quite frankly I look at the fact that people have been complaining about bloat since the APG came out that the entire complaint and the people who do are a joke.

It comes down to this: you either feel compelled to buy and use everything or YOU DO NOT.

If you feel compelled to to buy and use everything and then complain about the fact that the company in question makes to much content and that it's overwhelming? Then the problem isnt the company or the developers or the content creators it's YOU.

I have several Warhammer 40K armies. I started out with ONE, a vanilla Space Marine force. Over the years I've built an Eldar, a Dark Eldar, a Tau, an Ork, a Space Wolves and a Tyranid army.
At no point did I start complaining to Games Workshop about TOO MANY ARMIES!!! TOO MUCH BLOAT!!! as that would have been the rantings of a completely irrational and questionably sane person. No one and I mean NO ONE forced me to spend the money on those armies. I WANTED TO. I take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for my purchases and support.

RESPONSIBILITY.

MINE.


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Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:


And in Alien, the ship's captain violates quarantine procedures and brings an alien life form on board despite explicit regulations prohibiting doing so (and against the advice of the ship's warrant officer). That was a pretty dumb move, but nobody b+$*!es about that.

The reason that no one complains about that is because that's NOT what happens. AT ALL.

** spoiler omitted **

That IS what happens.

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Culpable for his actions? At that point he has no power TO ACT.

Movie plot spoiler:
He's not in charge, RIPLEY IS. He cant physically open the door no matter how much he argues and yells at Ripley.

Ultimately he gets on the Nostromo because of Ash's own set of ulterior motives. But in the scene? Dallas is NOT ultimately responsible for the alien getting on the ship. ASH IS.

If Dallas had found a way to circumvent the lock on the outside hatch and get everyone in? You'd be absolutely, 100% correct here. But youre laying the actions that someone else took firmly on the shoulders of another character and that doesnt seem right at all.


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danielc wrote:
I loved this game, but I lost interest when they changed the scale and made my rather large collection obsolete and worthless. Too bad. The setting was quite fun and the models were nice. Not sure I want to buy in again.

Wait...I have a bunch (at least 20 or so) miniatures from the first or second iteration of Heavy Gear. Does this mean I cant use them with the rules from this version or even alongside the newer mini's if I support this Kickstarter?


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Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:


And in Alien, the ship's captain violates quarantine procedures and brings an alien life form on board despite explicit regulations prohibiting doing so (and against the advice of the ship's warrant officer). That was a pretty dumb move, but nobody b+$*!es about that.

The reason that no one complains about that is because that's NOT what happens. AT ALL.

Movie plot spoiler:
Dallas and Lambert haul Kane's body to the door and Dallas informs Ripley of Kane's status (facehuggered) and tells her to open the door.

She declines and tells Dallas why. They could infect the ship and put everyone else in danger. They have a back and forth as Dallas is desparate to get his friend back on the ship and get him some medical attention. They whole time the Science Officer, Ash is listening in and it's HE who opens the door for Dallas, Lambert and Kane and let's them on the ship.

Ripley confronts him about this later on and reminds him that when Dallas is off the Nostromo that Ripley is in fact in charge.

Remember, we find out the investigating that signal was on the Company's agenda even BEFORE the Nostromo took off for this trip as Dallas tells Ripley that he'd shipped out with another Science Officer several times before and just before this trip they pulled that guy and replaced him with Ash...


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FuelDrop wrote:
Infinity Plus One wrote:
"Devil's Advocate" wrote:
The last survivors think they know the true Engineer's homeworld and make their way back to the ship and fly away.
This is exactly why I am excited to see the next movie. Love this set-up.

Going to the Engineers homeworld, after they've already demonstrated that they are willing to put considerable resources into wiping out humanity and the only reason they haven't is that something went wrong and they haven't realized they failed yet, rather than going home and warning earth so it isn't completely undefended when they do rock up to finish the job?

I see no problems with this plan at all.

Now I LIKED Prometheus despite the fact that almost the entire cast was made of the most dumb and annoying people ever. I saw it in IMAX 3D in the theater and it was an AMAZING visual experience.

That being said the whole idea of going to the planet of 8ft tall super strong serial killers to ask them WHY they want to serial kill you?

Just seems like the mother of ALL STUPID IDEAS.


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...Which is why I was a little surprised to see that Cap was working for them at the beginning of the Winter Soldier...

I kind of took it as Cap working with them instead of for them. For all his idealism, Cap seems pragmatic enough to know he can accomplish more with S.H.I.E.L.D. as his allies (and stay more up-to-date on threat intelligence) than on his own. He probably didn't think highly of Stalin's politics & policies either, but he would've recognized the necessity of having him and Russia as Allies against the bigger threats in WWII.

ShinHakkaider wrote:
...and that Stark had basically built them repulsor based propulsion systems for the 3 Insight helicarriers.
I was more surprised S.H.I.E.L.D. would have trusted Stark than the other way around, especially after that hacking stunt on the first Helicarrier. But I wouldn't rule out pre-Hydra-implosion S.H.I.E.L.D. and Stark both being arrogant enough to think they can out-plan and out-maneuver the other.

Excellent points. Especially the second.


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Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:

I found the Slate article lurking on a conversation one of my comrades was having on Facebook. She is a young woman with a mixed racial background from the outskirts of Boston. When I met her she was teaching ESL and living in Eastie (not far from where I used to live, years ago) but has since moved to NYC to be a professional communist revolutionary.

The Facebook conversation was among a variety of young men and women, most of them from cities, most of whom weren't white. They had a lot to say about the video, the culture of catcalling and street harrassment but I won't go into that.

The most interesting part of the conversation, I thought, was that most of them thought the "You won’t believe how many times this woman gets harassed in 10 hours" video was a pro-gentrification propaganda piece.

When I saw the video my first thought was "ugh. Way to make the entire male half of the species look like dickbags"

My second thought was: "Oh great now the message is: Great, cant bring our white women around the negroes and latinos because THIS happens."

To find out that they cut out most of the white guys who accosted her pretty much confirms that feeling/thought.


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JoelF847 wrote:
I'm sure season 2 of Agents of Shield will dovetail into Avengers 2. By then maybe it's back on the radar as a good guy organization and all of the avengers have pretty good ties with Agent Coulson, so they might be back in Shield by the time Cap 3 comes out.

Thing is I think that the Avengers were leery of SHIELD even at the end of the first AVENGERS movie. Especially after discovering that they were using the tesseract energy to replicate and stockpile Hydra energy based weapons (as seen in the first Captain America movie).

Which is why I was a little surprised to see that Cap was working for them at the beginning of the Winter Soldier and that Stark had basically built them repulsor based propulsion systems for the 3 Insight helicarriers. I do think that showing Steve's aggravation and distrust of Fury's methods at the beginning of Winter Soldier was neccesary to maintain some sort of continuity with Steve's distrust of Fury and by extension SHIELD. It's also important so that when Cap makes his pitch to completely dismantle SHIELD it's consistent with how he's been feeling since middle of the Avengers.

Agents of Shield should be concluding the second season in the middle of May. AGE OF ULTRON opens that first or second week of May in the US. I wouldnt be surprised if Agents of Shield ends on a cliffhanger leading into Age of Ultron or much like last year with Winter Soldier Age of Ultron happens between one or two episodes of AOS and prompts another huge shift in the tone of the show.

I'm also wondering when Tony, Steve, Thor and Natasha find out that Coulson is alive. With all of the things on the show centering around the blue alien and the alien writing I wouldnt be surprised if it leads into the Inhumans movie that's coming out in a few years.

Are there ALREADY Inhumans walking around the Marvel TV universe that we're just not aware of yet? Probably...


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Muad'Dib wrote:

Civil war has the bones of a good story.

It would expect it to be on a much smaller scale since so many of the players have yet to be introduced and you can't reasonably pack that many people in one movie.

I was hoping they would have some Netflix casting news about Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Jessica Jones.

From what I understand from what was said by Kevin Feige yesterday is that Civil War will be less about Secret Identities and registration than about to whom super powered people are held accountable by. or is it to?


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noretoc wrote:
should they be within their right to specifically shoot for a female dev, just so they can get one on the team regardless of any more qualified male applicants?

And that's part of the stickler for me. How do you define "more qualified"? If they're looking for someone who may not be as strong in one area of development but stronger in another that they feel is more needed, is she still less qualified as another male applicant?

I used to have a lot of discussions with a friend of mine who worked in HR and alot of the hiring ultimately comes down to who people feel more comfortable with. There are more than a few times where people get hired who know the minimum but get trained after they're on the job.
People hire those who will "fit" and that's mostly WHITE and MALE with WHITE and FEMALE being a close second, ESPECIALLY in management.

The illusion of fairness and meritocracy in this country in particular is a JOKE. So if Paizo wants to hire a female developer just to hire a female developer? Especially since they're gonna have to probably train ANY developer that they hire in how they specifically do things anyway?
They should go right on ahead and do just that.


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Electric Wizard wrote:
Xabulba wrote:
Electric Wizard wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Ulfen Death Squad wrote:
I though the first one made sense, at least to some degree. If a second is made, please kill Naomi Rapace off soon. Sorry but I have never liked any of her work. But back to a possible sequel, please continue down the path of this wmd black stuff and show how it turns into the alien species or how we connect black stuff to the alien species.
I'm still weirded out by the fact naomi rapace's baby is a face hugger. Its offspring must infect one of the snakes with the acid blood assimilating it into the over all life cycle of converging species. Although the snake might be a face hugger.

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Nobody knows what that thing is. It is *not* a face-hugger.
I'd call it a tentacled stomach-pumper that eats meat.

And, if the Black Goo is a weapon being developed by the Engineers why
did make her pregnant to begin with?
Why did the Engineer at the beginning of the movie die from it then?

Bottom line, the cinematography was great, and the story line was crap.

Holloway, Shaws boyfriend, was altered by the goo that david spiked his drink with and it changed his sperm. When they had sex the altered sperm found one of her eggs and created the proto-face hugger.

The engineer drank a whole bunch of the goo and dissolved into DNA to seed the planet he was on. Holloway and Fifield only got a small amount of the goo and only partially dissolved becoming zombified.

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No. Nothing in the movie supports that -- furthermore, there is no need for "Aliens" at all.

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I dont know about the second part with the partial zombification but the first part is heavily implied during the end of the opening credits as the Engineer's body dissolves. The elaborate SF shot shows that the black substance literally BREAKS DOWN HIS DNA HELIX. Then after he falls into to water and the black goo destroys the rest of his body there's a shot of the goo moving around in the water then another close up as the black goo REFORMS A NEW DNA HELIX.

Then there's another close up shot of a single cell organism splitting into a mutli-cell organism right over the movie's title credits.

So yeah I think the idea that the engineer is seeding the planet with life is if not obviously stated is STRONGLY implied...

RIGHT OVER THE OPENING CREDITS OF THE FILM.


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Quote:

Maybe Banner realizing that his meditation/control is insufficient to stop the Hulk (especially when manipulated by outside forces) sets up his voluntary exile from Earth into a possible Planet Hulk scenario/movie?

With the success of the Guardians of the Galaxy movie? I could see a Planet Hulk movie working out REALLY well...


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Artanthos wrote:
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Artanthos wrote:
BPorter wrote:
Vibranium is what Cap's shield is made of.
Adamantium-Vibranium alloy.
I dont think so. I know, I know that's what what said in the Official handbook of the Marvel Universe back in the 80's. I remember that. But apparently it was a mistake made by the editors at the time. According to Marvel the Shield is actually made of Vibrainium.

The original entry: Link

Captain America's Shield wrote:
Captain America's only weapon is his shield, a concave disk 2.5 feet in diameter, weighing 12 pounds. It is made of a unique Vibranium-steel alloy that has never been duplicated. The Shield was cast by American metallurgist Dr. Myron MacLain, who was contracted by the U.S. government to create an impenetrable substance to use for tanks during World War II. During his experiments, MacLain combined Vibranium with a steel alloy he was working with and created the disc-shaped shield. MacLain was never able to duplicate the process due to his inability to identify a still unknown catalyst that played a role in the metal bonding (an experiment to recreate the process resulted in the creation of Adamantium). The shield was awarded to Captain America by the government several months after the beginning of his career. The shield has great aerodynamic properties: it is able to slice through the air with minimal wind resistance and deflection of path. Its great overall resilience, combined with its natural concentric stiffness, enables it to rebound from objects with minimal loss of angular momentum. It is virtually indestructible: it is resistant to penetration, temperature extremes, and the entire electromagnetic spectrum of radiation. The only way it can be damaged in any way is by tampering with its molecular bonding.

See I get that.

But it's still not a Adamantium-Vibranium alloy.

No one knows what the mixture was so it's classified as Vibranium-Steel.

And as it states Adamantium was created in the attempt to replicate the creation of Cap's shield.

and then there's this:

"Rogers' indestructible shield has often been referred to as being an adamantium-vibranium alloy. This is a result of an erroneous entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe entry on Captain America (though it was accurately described in the adamantium entry), which propagated into future stories. The error was corrected in Captain America 303 (March 1985), which established that the shield is made of vibranium and steel."

Right there in the notes section of the Marvel Wiki Page.


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Artanthos wrote:
BPorter wrote:
Vibranium is what Cap's shield is made of.
Adamantium-Vibranium alloy.

I dont think so. I know, I know that's what what said in the Official handbook of the Marvel Universe back in the 80's. I remember that. But apparently it was a mistake made by the editors at the time. According to Marvel the Shield is actually made of Vibrainium.


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Intolerant Gaming Nerds.


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Man I was there all 4 days and totally missed this!

Ugh. There's always next year.


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I subscribe to both the RPG line and the AP line so I get the hardcopies and the PDF's.

The PDF's get waaaaaaaay more use than the hardcopies.

I bring my ipad pretty much with me everywhere. My Pathfinder books are on my iPad so pretty easy access to everything I need.

When I'm running an adventure and I need quick access to certain monsters / adversaries? I print out the page from the respective Bestiary and if I need to make changes to it I can do so on the page without worrying about marking up the book.

Need to know what spells and special abilities do? Search copy and paste in to a text document.

Maps? Extract. Print. Markup.

The occasional Battle Map? Extract. PosterRazor. Print. Assemble.

PC's need to know that a monster/NPC looks like? Extract. Paste into Pixelmator or Photoshop. Add name. Print.

or

if on the ipad. SHOW the Players the picture right from the book.

And I dont have to carry around a crap load of books to do this. IF I prep before hand it speeds up play. My players have learned to prep and have enverythign that they need on hand BEFORE play starts. It's very seldom that we need to stop the game in it's tracks.

There were a few sessions that I didnt even bring the Core Rulebook with me to my game between the PDF's and the two PFSRD apps that I use? there's no need.

I like the hardcopies but the PDF's are actually more useful.


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Freehold DM wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
jemstone wrote:

Oh man.

L-Gaim.

Now there was a SHOW.

Had a chance to get THIS when it first came out. Passed on it figuring that I'd be able to track one down later.

*FACEPALM*

when I build a time machine, I will travel back in time to this moment and rectify it for you.

Primarily by buying it myself.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE.


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I think he means THIS.


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jemstone wrote:

Oh man.

L-Gaim.

Now there was a SHOW.

Had a chance to get THIS when it first came out. Passed on it figuring that I'd be able to track one down later.

*FACEPALM*


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Jeven wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:

People are apparently still buying the rules stuff so why wouldn't Paizo keep making the rules stuff?

Since not everyone buys everything there is to buy, it probably comes down to the decisions of those customers who make choices on a product by product basis.

How many Pathfinder rulebooks are there now? And how would a new customer rank them -- are the new releases as highly regarded (must-haves) as some of the older ones?
So something like the APG might remain a dependable seller while some of the newer ones might be borderline because they are much further down on people's things-I-might-buy-lists.

Maybe I should have been more specific? I was reffering to the purchase of new rule based books from the RPG line.

For Example: If sales from the ACG is doing gangbusters, what impetus does Paizo have to stop making new rule books since people are still buying them in droves?

As for rule books in existence? I believe that there are 15. But I'm going to exclude the 4 Bestiaries, the NPC codex, Ultimate Equipment and the Gamemastery Guide. To me these are very different books than the Advanced Series or the other Ultimate books.Still even if you included all 15 that's 15 books in 5 years? That's roughly 3 a year? Which in itself isnt bad considering the rate that WOTC were churning out the 3x hardcovers.


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thejeff wrote:

In fairness, there is also a perception that rules bloat is bad for the game in general and can lead to problems for the company. Whether that's true or not is debatable and largely irrelevant: People can be concerned about even if it's wrong and that's a different concern than "Stop making stuff I don't want"

That's a valid point and I get that but here's the thing: The moment people stop buying the rules stuff is the moment I'm pretty sure it would go away (or change i.e. a new edition).

People are apparently still buying the rules stuff so why wouldn't Paizo keep making the rules stuff?

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