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jemstone wrote:
Zmar wrote:
Lvl 20 is not enough for you?

Dragon Age boxed set 3, which would give us 11-20, has been "Coming Soon" for some time, now. Unless I've missed it entirely and their page is grossly out of date.

My hope is that Blue Rose will give the AGE 11-20 rules enough of a workout that both things can come to be - new Blue Rose, new DA. :)

It's been released for a while now I think.

I mean GR is getting ready to release a compiled Dragon Age hardcover with all of the rules from all three sets.


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Castilonium wrote:

Good ones cite their sources and show people all relevant RAW in an impartial way, regardless of who it helps or hinders. They also try not to disrupt the game too much.

Bad ones are much more vague and selective when explaining the rules, or they distrupt the game a lot.

I havent read the rest of the thread but at it's core this is it for me. Fortunately I have a player like that at my table who will correct / point out a rule even if it hinders or screws him.

THATS an awesome player and a good example of a rules lawyer. The self serving dickbag that only does it when it benefits him? That person can stay away.


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Sissyl wrote:

People who see that a GM is banning things and conclude that the GM is close-minded because the GM could "simply escalate the challenge".

Option bloat has made the game quite different since the beginning, as illustrated by the difference between core only and expanded PFS play.

"Simply escalating the challenge" is a pretty massive heap of work. You don't volunteer to do it yourself, you don't get to dismiss it as "simply" anything. Do your GMing for a while, and see if you still think it's as easy as "simply escalating the challenge". Not to mention not everyone has oceans of time, and even if they do, time spent "simply escalating the challenge" for one player is time that could be better spent working on everyone's fun.

Finally, and most damning, the normal situation is that one or maybe two players push the envelope with the characters while the others do not, leading to intractable power imbalances between the players.

Solve all the above, and that complaint starts to carry water.

*BLINKS*

Your response to this is so full of AWESOME I cant stand it.

When I start with new players in a new group as I did a while back everyone started core only. Now granted at the time the CRB was the only release but still. I needed to see how this group worked, if they were into playing fair and moderating themselves and their respective characters and builds or were they going to be abusive and be like "Not my problem the game is designed this way!!"

Basically i needed to see if I was gaming with a bunch of jerks or at least who the jerks were. Because if youre part of a gaming group? and youre only concerned about YOUR fun and ignoring how your fun impacts the other people at the table? INCLUDING your GM? Youre a jerk.

I lucked out with my longtime group. I've said this before here but they are REALLY a good bunch of PEOPLE. I have two players that know the rules pretty well and can whip up some TRULY high damage dealing PC's. And I'm fine with that. WHY? because the one time one of my players created a character and had it play and it proved to be so dominating and untouchable, he said you know what? I'm gonna tone this down a little bit. On his own. Without riding that particular build into the ground.

I think allowing most things into the game should factor in several things: Are there jerk players who are going to abuse the rules almost exclusively their favor and crap on other peoples fun? (We probably shouldn't be playing with those people anyway...) Should the DM be able to adjust difficulty to deal with these powerhouses (and more importantly not have to deal with players COMPLAINING about the difficulty in one or two encounters that actually challenge them...)? Absolutely. Is there mutual respect given between players and Gm's. (For GM's - You know, adapting to a players concept. Them getting to build the character that they want within reason. Player's - Respecting the fact that being a GM is work and takes a fair amount of energy to do in order to help make sure the group IS having a good time).

Personally for me, if we have that balance, I'm good.


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Rynjin wrote:
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Kalindlara wrote:
Who wouldn't want to be a Social Justice Warrior? That sounds awesome. :D
Definitely, it doesn't sound like an insult at all. This is what I think of when I hear that.
It highlights the ridiculously misplaced self-importance of people who make up reasons to be offended on the internet pretty well to me.

So basically this entire thread then?


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jemstone wrote:
It is because there are no more Jedi that Luke becomes important. The reason that Luke is such a big deal in the movies is because he's basically it as far as the salvation of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader is concerned. Luke is the last of the Jedi. Period. End of story. Vader tries to recruit him because he believes that Luke can be turned. That he can be made to see the folly of the light side and that Obi-Wan and those like him are the real bad guys. And when Luke won't come willingly, Vader plays against Luke's newfound love for his long-lost sister. Vader tries to turn Luke into a being of rage and anger, just like him.

But...Luke ISNT the last Jedi.

It can be argued that Luke doesn't actually become a Jedi until that moment when he tosses his lightsaber aside rather than kill Vader (because at that point he's still Vader not Anakin).

But in Empire when Luke decides to cut short his training to go rescue his friends doesn't Obi-wan say something along the lines of "that boy is our last hope" to which Yoda replies "NO, there is another..." I mean he's obviously talking about Leia there. Leia is their plan B. Hence even at that point in the story Luke isnt a Jedi but Yoda is already looking PAST Luke just in case he does not survive his encounter with Vader or WORSE he gets turned.


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While I agree with Aranna's point that Ahsoka is technically still a padawan, she's a war time Padawan with the experience of a battle tested field commander. With everything that she's been through I wouldn't be surprised that she wasn't far from being a full fledged Jedi. But it's fortunate that she WASN'T, otherwise she would have probably ended up being a casualty of ORDER 66.

Also? does anyone remember what happened to Ventress? Last time we saw her she was helping Ahsoka try and clear her name but after that?


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I just want to point out that in Star Wars (1977) Tarkin was convinced that the Jedi were "all but extinct", but Obi Wan and Yoda were still around.

If those two got away and hid for years then it stands to reason that other Jedi got the message and laid low too. I mean obviously some wouldnt or couldnt but I personally like the idea of side stories of Jedi either giving up the life and doing other things or having to fight the Empire without exposing themselves for what they really are.


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Aranna wrote:
With any luck she will come out the better in that confrontation. Remember supposedly Vader's motivation was to protect the ones he cares about... I think he cares about "snips".

True, but I'd think at this point he's had a few years under the corrupting influence of Palpatine and a few Jedi purge kills under his belt. I wasnt Ashoka's biggest fan when the show started but she really grew on me as they started to flesh her out as well as her relationships with the people around her. I was happy to see her but then realized that her relationship with with Anakin/Vader was probably going to come to a hear in the coming seasons.

Also? was anyone kind of sad to see the fate of the inquisitor? I kinda liked him as a primary antagonist.


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Dragon78 wrote:
So I am the only one thinking of S.W.O.R.D.?

NOPE.

Since I'm pretty sure that Joss was the one who created S.W.O.R.D. in the comics...


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I was enjoying the return of that particular character until the very end of the episode when Vader made his appearance.

It hit me that we're probably going to see a confrontation / showdown between the master and his former apprentice. And that's probably not going to end well...


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bugleyman wrote:


It isn't so much that the lack of PDFs will kill them; it's the "we know best" hubris behind it (and the lack of a licensing process, and the C&Ds, etc.). Any number of people have been asking for a PDF/ebook option for years to no avail. Companies which ignore their customers to that extent do so at their peril. Seriously, taking nothing away from Paizo, the TTRPG market was WotC's to lose in 2008, and lose it they did. Spectacularly.

These days If a game doesn't have a PDF electronic version of their books I don't play or support it. It's just that simple for me. Digital real estate is cheaper than physical space and allows me to store and transport more. It allows me to look up rules and other elements of the game quicker and with ease whether i'm at home or at work on a lunch break or waiting for a flight at the airport or sitting on a plane.

I've read actual books on my ipad and phone but to me game books are reference books. I dont usually read them from cover to cover or try to commit them to memory but just use them to find specific information that I need at the time. If a publisher is set on making that difficult or not even a possibility then I cant support them. In this case I wasn't going to be supporting WOTC anyway but the chance that I would have at least picked up a PDF of the player's handbook as a PDF would be good.

The Basic PDF is not a good stand-in for the actual full text in this case. Not for me anyway.


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I got my Bones II package yesterday and I TRULY regret not springing for Khanjira, the World Breaker.

UGH.

2013 Core Set x1
Narthrax Dragon x1
Lords of Darkness x1
Heroes and Villains x1
Gelatinous Cube x2 (one for my son)
Hill Giants x1
Demon Lords x1
Cinder Dragon x1 (for my son)
Dragons Dont Share x1


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Freehold DM wrote:
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Has that ever been done before? A headline hero where even the readers don't know the secret identity 5 books in?

Not sure about 5 books in. Thunderbolts made it through their first issue w/o the reveal, 2nd if you count their hulk appearance (and that he slipped up and called Meteorite Moonstone.)
Love Thunderbolts, although the more recent incarnations haven't been my thing.

Yeah the Busiek then Niceiza runs are really damn good. After that? Not so much...


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That's why they were packaged together!

With Grave, my main problem was that we were supposed to sympathize with the kid who, while I did empathize with his plight, I couldn't sympathize with his decisions - they were wrong and repeatedly so, getting himself and [redacted for spoilers].

Effectively his pride was such that I just couldn't sympathize - empathize, yes, but not sympathize - which, you know, was part of the point. But because of this it just felt preachy instead of powerful.

Don't get me wrong - I teared up, and felt miserable, but the entire thing left me going, "Ugh, you moron, you did this." more than, "I'm so sorry." Again, part of the point, but not my preferred watching experience.

let's not do this, guys. This anime was about a horrible moment in history, noone was thinking straight, and they didn't know much about the situation other than that they were living in it. this is also the same conflict that had civilians commit suicide rather than surrender when starving because they legitimately believed the enemy forces had would either take over their bodies, eat them in turn, or something else even more outlandish/impossible. Don't judge their madness by your sanity, especially removed by years and knowledge of nuclear fallout.

THIS.

SWEET JESUS, THIS.

I'm glad it's just not me. If Everyone made the SMART or RIGHT decisions in movies we would have really boring movies or none at all.


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Pan wrote:

Pretty sure Blade Runner was not a flop. While I cant find production budget for BR, films of the same year like E.T. and Star Trek II had production budgets of around 10 million. BR grossed 32.8 million leading me to believe the film was a theatrical success.

Reception was mixed at the time of its release but over time BR is considered a top film by many sites. Maybe the initial critical response leads you to think BR was a flop? 91% on rotten tomatoes is pretty impressive. Also, Ebert originally was lukewarm on BR, but gave it better props over the years. It would seem BR is a rare example of a film that enjoys high praise and cult status.

I think your comparison of Jupiter Ascending might closer resemble Dune. Dune grossed 31 million on a 40 million budget. Also, Dune has a 56% score on rotten tomatoes while Jupiter ascending is sitting at 23%. Jupiter is in trouble with a production budget of 176 million and a lethargic boxoffice show so far of 33 million and change.

BR is a favorite film of mine and Dune is a film I enjoyed. Ive taken note of the comparison and my interest has been piqued. Ill be waiting for DVD release though because all the personal reviews i've received said, "they didn't get it because they didn't care enough about it to get it." Ill check back in awhile once JA is out on video.

Blade Runner was a FLOP both financially AND Critically.

Even after the initial release AND multiple theatrical re-releases the movie had a shooting budget of 28 million and to date theatrically made 32 million.

Budget & Box Office Gross

Critically if it didn't get lukewarm reviews it was being savaged for being too slowly paced and the voice over monologue. On Sneak Previews (aka AT THE MOVIES) Roger Ebert gave it a thumbs up but just BARELY. I'm pretty certain that Gene Siskiel didnt.

It's funny that people are saying they don't care about the special effects when that's pretty much the ONLY reason that he liked Blade Runner. Gene Siskel calls out the fact that he didn't care about the characters either and after only 20 min the special effects don't even matter.

Ah here's their review at about the 22 min mark.

I'll just say that there are plenty of movies that are now considered classics that got middling to dismissive reviews when the initially came out. Blade Runner, Alien, 2001 didnt get glowing reviews. Even Star Wars got dismissed by Janet Maslin when it first came out. I still think Blade Runner is a less than great movie. I love Sean Young and Rutger Hauer in it. I think it looks great. But it's a movie that is a bit of a snooze fest. I saw one of the re-releases in the 90's and fell asleep in the theater half way through it. And I typically DONT fall asleep in the movies.


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Shisumo wrote:

Wow. Just... wow.

The ranks of dashing, terrifying badasses have a new member: take a bow, Mr Colin Firth. That was something else.

THE CHURCH SEQUENCE was just all types of crazy, brutal fun.

I agree I would have never viewed Colin Firth as a badass but after that sequence? Yeah. FULL OF AWESOME.


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Adoril Recond wrote:
I love PF. For my B-day I bought core rulebook and read it front to back until I figured it out. I wanted someone to play with but they aren't as focused as me so I bought them a BB for there B-day. Its been a year and while they know the rules and GM they won't transfer. I even convinced them to add some rules from the Core Rulebook but they won't switch. I really am tired of them not changing and feel annoyed. He runs a small larp league as GM so is always in a position of power. If he doesn't change no one will. I'm sorry got a bit ranty. What should I do?

Find another group.

If you cant suck it up and play the way they want to.

Personally, and this isn't a judgement just my personal preference, I'd just as soon as NOT play than to play a game I don't like or with people I don't like.


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Aranna wrote:
And yes Dottie is really creepy, I bit my lip in apprehension of what the bread offering meant. I do wonder why she needed to swipe her room keys, isn't she trained in lock picking?

It's the path of least resistance.

It's easier walking into the valet parking of a fancy restaurant looking the part of a valet and simply take the keys to a car and then by extension the car itself than it would be to jimmy the car lock and then disable the alarm.

Likewise with professional boosters they're looking for the car WITHOUT the club or complicated lock. Takes more time to bypass those. The more time exposed in the open the higher chance they'll get caught.

Bringing it back to the episode, it's better to get the keys from the target and get into her room quickly with less of a chance of being seen than to be messing around with a tension bar on the lock.


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I still do.


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In my COTCT game one of my players created an oracle that after a few levels they didn't want to play anymore. She was good at pretty much everything outside of combat but when it came to combat she didn't wanted to be more effective. The player expressed all of this to me and we came up with both an intro strategy for the new PC and an exit strategy for the old PC.

The old PC holed up with the church of Abadar who she had ties with and effectively became an NPC contact (still kind of played by the PC when they ran into her). And since the PC's were doing for hire work for the City guard Cressida Croft (their employer) put them in contact with the new PC and vouched for his trustworthiness.

Basically talk to your players and work something out with them that will be equitable for the both of you.

If a player was switching out PC's every other session thought that would be a problem in terms of consistency of play and i'd probably ask that player to either stick with one character or find another group. If every character they played was a suicidal/death wish having PC in order to facilitate playing a new PC every other session? I'd ask that player to find another game. They'd really need to take that level of passive agressiveness somewhere else.


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Aberzombie wrote:

Thanks for the feedback, folks!

I pre-ordered my tickets (just in case) for the wife and I. We're going to go to an Alamo Drafthouse to see it. Those places are really cool - dinner and a movie, combined in one!

I LOVE the Drafthouse!

We have one here in New York but it's up in Yonkers and I'm in Queens. BUt whenever I can convince my Brother in law to drive up there for a movie?? We Go.

Hell, they're showing Nightmare on Elm Street III: Dream Warriors tonight in 35mm. It's a school night so I can't go. But if I lived closer? I'd be IN THERE.


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Just as an addendum, I grew up with a lot of people who either let the system drag them into poverty or joined the military. At that point I think I had maybe 5 - 6 friends and / or family who were either active military or had signed up including my younger sister.

I was afraid for their safety and lives. I was afraid that they wer fighting an unnecessary war for oil, nation building and profit. If they were fighting solely in Afghanistan I guess I might have felt better about it. Thankfully all of my friends and family made it through okay. But at the time one of my son's best friends/classmates lost his dad in Afghanistan when they were in 1st or 2nd grade. So that was heartbreaking.

I respect our fighting forces. I respect what they do. But a lot of the time I feel that they get put in harms way unnecessarily for unjust conflicts. And I hate that. HATE IT. And I think anyone who rah-rah's flying into war is doing a disservice to those men and women and what they stand for. That's just me though.


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Pro-war, in my definition, has less to do with the need or necessity for war as it does the EAGERNESS and zealousness with which one does so. Couple that with the casual dehumanization and racism toward an enemy and a lot of pro-war types just leave a very bad taste in my mouth.

I don't doubt the need to check our enemies. I used to work right on 34th and Park (I'm still with the same company just across the street now) so I saw what happened to the World Trade Center from my office window and not through the prism of CNN or FOX. We were 22 floors up and it was beautiful, sunny day and had a clear unobstructed view of of everything including the collapse of both towers.

So believe me, someone hit my city and I wanted TO HIT BACK. But I wanted to hit the RIGHT people. Going into Afghanistan I was all for. Going into Iraq? Not so much. But I clearly remember how crazy it was in this country and especially in NYC when people pretty much were turning on ANYONE they thought might be Muslim.

I'm not Pro-War because i know and understand there's a human cost on both sides of the equation and look at that not through the lens of detachment like some math problem to be solved. That being said, if someone starts kicking you in the teeth? Youre more than within your rights to reach up and break that d00d's leg.


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Agreed. Personally, I do consult with the player first when I have an idea for a story complication concerning their character background.

I usually tell them or give them an idea of what I want to play with but dont tell them in detail. If they say flat out NO that's off limits? Then I leave it alone and move on.

It comes down to trust for me. If you dont trust me not to burn you then I'm not going to invest the time and effort to make the play experience more interesting than it can be. And that's okay.


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thejeff wrote:
Galnörag wrote:

A quick illustration of the last point:

Luke: My father and mother are dead, my Aunt told me so. My father died in the great war, he was an amazing pilot.
...
DV: "LUUUUKE I AM YOUR FATHER"
Luke: "Nooooooooooo"
...
Luke: "Hey Leia, remember 2 episodes ago when I was totally trying to make out with you... Yeah so we are brother and sister."

I suggest not waiting until after they get married to drop the reveal though.

It can work. It works better in literature, since it's usually set up from the beginning and there's no "player" who made the character one way and then got it changed out from under him.

Peter: My Uncle Ben died because I didn't think it was my problem. I learned from that that with Great Power comes Great Responsibility."

Villain: <rips off mask> "You fool! I'm your Uncle Ben! I faked it to get away from you and your insipid Aunt and back to my criminal career!"

Or in an actual comics story, revealing that Peter's parents really hadn't died, but were secret agents or something. Which went over like a lead balloon and was eventually retconned to be imposters, IIRC.

OR Steve Rogers was the first Super-Soldier!

No..wait the government experimented on Black Soldiers first killing quite a few of them till they got it close to right with Isaiah Bradley. THEN they refined it to test on Steve Rogers...

A retcon which made perfect sense given the nature of the real life Tuskegee Experiment...

That being said. There are GOOD retcons and there are AWFUL retcons. All retcons are not created equally...


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MeanDM wrote:

I enjoyed it quite a bit. Best movie I've seen in a long time. Bradly Cooper gives a really nuanced performance, often conveying different emotions through nonverbals from what the character is saying.

It really is one of those films where some people are going to see what they want in it. I think it really makes you think about the war and what impact it has had.

Agreed. I'm not a huge fan of actual war and actual violence having never been to war but having seen actual violence (stabbings, shootings beatings) I like the focus on what being submerged in that environment does to a person. The question of why a person puts themselves in that kind of environment and what they tell themselves the reasons is as opposed to what the reason actually might be.

People are going to bring their own world view and biases into the movie with them of course. I saw it as an anti-war movie because I value my humanity and dont like the idea of it being stripped from me for ANY reason.

But that's just my view on it.


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Saw it about a month ago via screener.

Its a fairly solid flick with the real standout being Bradley Cooper's performance. It's also one of the better Clint Eastwood movies in a long while.

It does depict Chris Kyle in a more human light than his interviews did and book does and shows the toll being in a constant warrior mindset takes on the human psyche.


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Mark Hoover wrote:

I haven't seen the 3rd ep yet. Sousa I think will end up being bad. He's too conveniently good at the right moments in the show, plus he has a deformity. Isn't that what Samuel L Jackson's character said in Unbreakable? Something about how deformity or weakness helps identify a villain in a comic book?

Also, for everyone in this thread that tells me sexism was THAT blatant in 1946: you were alive in 1946? I guess it wouldn't be so bad if the men were portrayed as anything but villains, oafs or idiots in the first 2 episodes. I suppose I'll need to reserve some judgment for #3 though.

I dont think Howard Stark, Jarvis or Dooley are villains, oafs or idiots. For that matter Dooley, Thompson and Souza arent bad men. But they ARE men of the time. And while I wasn't alive in 1946? I have family who was. It's like trying to tell me "it wasn't THAT racist back in 1946. You don't know because you weren't there." Well, it's pretty well documented that it WAS that racist back then. Just like the Women's suffrage movement has documented that it was that SEXIST back then as well. It's just jarring to some people because it seems that blunt and almost cartoonish.

Which is pretty much how a lot of black people feel when we encounter blatant racism.

See? INTERSECTIONALITY. I'm using that word in the most sarcastic way possible. (Jesus Christ, I hate that word...)


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I supported this when it was Kickstarter in the hope that it would be ported to OS X like HeroLab. Someone mentioned that it would be a possibility that this would be done.

It doesnt look like that's going to happen anytime soon and I kinda regret supporting the Kickstarter now. It's my own fault and really should have waited for a more concrete discussion of OS X availability.

It's something that I'd really like to use but I dont want to take up several gigs of HD space for another OS just to run ONE application. I did that before with HeroLab abd ComicBase. Never again.


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Did Occult Adventures come out already? Because I'm seeing people write about how they're disappointed in it already. I know that the play test came out already but wasnt it just a few of the classes?

I mean unless you have the completed book how can you be disappointed in it?

Someone not liking the premise I can kinda understand but being disappointed in something that you haven't gotten a chance to even skim through?


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Fergurg wrote:
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Fergurg wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
Fergurg wrote:
MagusJanus wrote:

This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.

Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.

Rinse, cycle, repeat.

"Quit calling my group violent or else me and my group will attack and kill you!" has never worked for any group, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway.
More like stop murdering our unarmed civilians. If you really think this is JUST (Emphasis here by the way, NOT shouting. Just to be clear...) about being called "violent" then that explains a lot about your particular tone deafness on this subject.

But that's what the underlying complaint is - people assuming that Black men are violent, and therefore, force is used against them more.

I'm just going to ask, based on your previous postings and the hatred you have toward this country and its countrymen, and I want an honest yes or no answer. Do you believe these execution-style killings were justified?

If thejeff or Freehold DM asked me that question I'd be inclined to give THEM an honest answer since while we dont agree on everything they at least approach our discussions with an attempt at respect and empathy.

So yeah, no "honest" answer for you there Fergurg.

So I will assume that the answer is "yes" until you say otherwise, and will treat you accordingly.

You already had your mind made up about how you were going to treat me there Furg.

You pretty much ignored EVERYTHING else that I said to go after my expression of frustration with this country and my countrymen. But you're just entitled enough to think that I OWE YOU some sort of explanation of that frustration. That my frustration somehow makes me dangerous or evil or everything that you need to believe that I am.

Comply. Comply. Comply.

I said that over and over again. Comply not out of respect for the law but because they have guns and dont like your skin color and they will KILL YOU if you dont.

But to you I'm not a frustrated and angry father.

I'm just some irrational, angry stereotype of a black guy.

Your concern for my actual opinion is disingenuous and insulting. Talk to me about the fear that I feel for myself and my child as an unarmed civilian having to worry about both criminals AND the police who are supposed to be protecting us from them THEN we can have an "honest" conversation.

I understand that as a man, there are certain things that I don't have to worry about or concern myself with that a woman has to place near or at the top of her concern list. Sexual Assault, unwanted harassing behavior, etc.

You are the guy who is basically saying: hey don't wear provocative clothing and maybe you wont get raped.

Or to be more accurate: Hey stop being black and maybe you wont get harassed and murdered.

Yeah Furg. Youre THAT guy.


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Fergurg wrote:
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Fergurg wrote:
MagusJanus wrote:

This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.

Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.

Rinse, cycle, repeat.

"Quit calling my group violent or else me and my group will attack and kill you!" has never worked for any group, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway.
More like stop murdering our unarmed civilians. If you really think this is JUST (Emphasis here by the way, NOT shouting. Just to be clear...) about being called "violent" then that explains a lot about your particular tone deafness on this subject.

But that's what the underlying complaint is - people assuming that Black men are violent, and therefore, force is used against them more.

I'm just going to ask, based on your previous postings and the hatred you have toward this country and its countrymen, and I want an honest yes or no answer. Do you believe these execution-style killings were justified?

If thejeff or Freehold DM asked me that question I'd be inclined to give THEM an honest answer since while we dont agree on everything they at least approach our discussions with an attempt at respect and empathy.

So yeah, no "honest" answer for you there Fergurg.


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Fergurg wrote:
MagusJanus wrote:

This is precisely why we never get anywhere in the conversation of race related to police actions.

Cops kill/beat/whatever an African American, people get heated, people protest, some of the protesters get violent or cops get killed, cops cite it as a reason they are justified, protests are either outright ignored or given promises and token efforts that amount to nothing.

Rinse, cycle, repeat.

"Quit calling my group violent or else me and my group will attack and kill you!" has never worked for any group, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway.

More like stop murdering our unarmed civilians. If you really think this is JUST (Emphasis here by the way, NOT shouting. Just to be clear...) about being called "violent" then that explains a lot about your particular tone deafness on this subject.


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My concern right now is that the NYPD and their unilateral supporters are going to use this as an excuse to continue to brutalize, harass and murder men of color in this city.

This thing is quite literally the last thing that we need right now.

*SMH*


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Sissyl wrote:
I dunno... what would you Americans think of some podunk country you never liked making a comedy about how two of their soldiers get the job of assassinating your current president? I could see "some" steam rising about it, to be perfectly honest.

I dont know seeing that the GOP hates the current President they probably wouldn't mind seeing him dead.


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Tinkergoth wrote:

Given the fact that they still haven't remade Final Fantasy VII, and appear unlikely to ever do so despite the fact that it would almost certainly be an instant cash cow for them (I'd buy a PS4 just to play a remake of VII), I think this will sadly remain just a fantasy.

It's a nice dream to have though.

Not a remake proper but they are Porting FF VII to the PS4 early next year.

I personally cant wait. I have my original discs but my old PS3 with the hardware emulation needs some repair.


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ShadowcatX wrote:
The time to worry about your rights is when you're safe. Until things change significantly, when you're dealing with a cop, worry about not getting shot. (Especially if you're not caucasian.)

Pretty much this.

I've told my son a few simple things.

The police are not your friends. They are not there to help you. Because they deal with criminals who mostly look like you? To them youre just another criminal. If you can avoid them STAY AWAY.

If you are confronted. Be calm. be polite and comply.

If they want you to jump up and down on one leg and recite the our father? Comply.

If they want you to lay face down on the dirty sidewalk with your arms spread out! Comply.

Comply. Comply. Comply.

Because if you do not? THEY WILL KILL YOU. and then say it was your fault because you have no true right to exist as a human being. And unfortunately most of this country agrees with them.

So Swallow your pride. Comply and Live.

I've been telling him this since he was 10. He's going to be 13 in a few weeks. The amount of pure HATRED I feel for my countrymen and this country in general because I have to prepare him like this at such a young age is maddening. But at the end of the day I'd rather have him humiliated, but home and alive than proud and in a graveyard in a pine box.

I know that there are some of you who are going to be quick to say I'm an awful parent or am teaching him hatred. Some of you have voiced this before. To you I'm going to say one thing: When you are raising a young black male in this country and have also grown up as a young black male in this country THEN MAYBE I'll take seriously anything that you have to say. IF not Then youre just talking about a bunch of things that you know next to NOTHING about.


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Fergurg wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Fergurg wrote:
I do agree that there is a high number motivated by racism. I just don't believe that racism is the default answer to shootings, and many people do, even after proof is shown otherwise.
OK, next question: granted that it is less than 100%, what percentage of police shootings motivated by racism is acceptable to you? I think that's what the source of strife is here -- most people would answer "zero" rather than merely "any is okay because we know it's not 100%."

This isn't about whether or police shootings motivated by racism is acceptable. It is about whether or not it is acceptable to automatically assume that police killings are motivated by racism.

Take the case in New York with Eric Garner. Looked like a combination of incompetence and tempers flaring up due to the fact that the cop and the suspect had a history, and not a pleasant one. But unless somehow the black supervisor on the scene was somehow a race traitor, the death was not because he was black.

BTW: You want a conspiracy theory? I got one, and I don't think it's too far-fetched: Garner's legal issues, and the reason he knew that particular cop, were related to not paying cigarette taxes. The mayor of NYC loves himself some taxes. The people who elected him, the same people who would be part of the grand jury pool, elected a man who campaigned on raising taxes.

Is it just me, or does this sound like a "Business man didn't pay the money we wanted him to pay. Sure was a tragic 'accident' what happened to him. If only he had paid, that could have been avoided."

I hate to pull this particular card, but as a mostly life long new yorker, you're in the wrong here. Staten Island has had issues with heavy handed enforcement with respect to minor crime from police FOR YEARS, and while I do think race plays a role here, it pales in comparison to how that particular neighborhood is patroled. Note that they got the guy selling loosies in front of a store in...

EXACTLY.

My mom lived in Crown Heights (actually still does) in the 80's and 90's and that neighborhood was ROUGH. Drug dealers and other a-holes literally plied their trade right in front of my mom's building and in front of the bodega across the street.

Most of the people in that neighborhood were working stiffs, my mom included and the people there were sick of this crap and the violence and called the police on these guys frequently.

Guess what? The cops either never showed up or would show up some time later. Sometimes even hours later. this was the pattern with them.

As soon as some white people moved into the neighborhood all of that started to change. All of a sudden the patrol cars started to come around more often and the neighborhood felt safer. And because it felt safer more white people moved in. And then there was a bigger police presence and the neighborhood got safer.

Now my mom's neighborhood is gentrified. Racist white people look at that and say "If they couldn't clean up their own neighborhood they don't deserve it" (and yes I've actually heard someone say this) and they willfully ignore the reality of the actual situation. I don't think it's the fault of the whites who moved into my mom's neighborhood seeking lower rent but they don't quite realize the extent of what their unseen privilege buys them either.

And the cops? They do tend go after the easy targets (not always though). Ive literally seen these guys go after two or three black / brown guys at the W4th b-ball court area for drinking a beverage out of a brown bag (in this instance it wasn't even an alcoholic beverage and they were made to dump it out) while ignoring the obviously drunken white frat boys across the street.

See the thing is, people think that black and brown people and a few white people who actually pay attention and know whats up are making all of this stuff up. They refuse to take any word of abuse or poor behavior from the police as anything other than black and brown people complaining and lying.


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I'll join in here as well. It just seems that the boards are filled with people who just like to criticize Paizo and the devs and the staff.

I have my issues with Paizo but it's never been based on the product or customer service or the rules. It's why I'm still here and still supporting them.

I'm at a point in my life where I'm looking around at this country and realizing that it really may not be a place that I want to be in order to continue raising my son. I feel the same way about my favorite hobby RPG's. I dont want to introduce him or get him involved to the extent that I've been for just over 30 years.

Even with all that and how I feel about the RPG community (whether it's founded or not) I STILL support Paizo because I feel that they do EXCELLENT work. They listen to their customers and really work to give them A) What they want B) a Good product. Some products are better than others but that's the nature of the production beast.

Either way, much respect to Lisa, Vic, Erik, Jason, Mark, Wes, James and anyone else that I'm forgetting.

You keep producing and I'll keep supporting with one caveat:

I live in a 2 BR apt in Queens NY with my patient and loving wife, my 12 year old son and our amazing dog Biscuit. I have ONE bookcase for RPG's and another one for Comics (trades and Omnibuses). Boardgames and the like either go in the closet (with my 6 WH40K armies. Yes, more hobby stuff occupy my closet space than clothes and I have a LOT of clothes) or a top the bookcases.
I have another bookcase specifically dedicated to RPG's.

As of IRON GODS? My two dedicated Paizo shelves are FULL.

This means I've got to offload some of my 3.5 stuff or stop with the new Paizo stuff. My wife is patient...BUT NOT THAT PATIENT. LOL.


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Hobbit3 is best of the bunch so go see it
Are you saying you've seen it? I thought it comes out this coming week ...

Also there have been screenings here in NYC over the past 2 weeks or so. I've just barely missed getting into a few due to scheduling conflicts so I'll be seeing it with the rank and file this week...


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Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Sometimes your life is worth less than the cost of a movie ticket.

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HELL?!?

Ugh.


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Hama wrote:
Dude. The show is for kids.

So was Justice League (Everything after A Finer World) & Justice League Unlimited (The ENTIRE season long CADMUS arc).

So was Batman Beyond (Out of the Past) and Young Justice (ALL OF SEASON 2)

Even original Teen Titans Animated series had some pretty DARK episodes (.vs Trigon, Robin vs. Slade).

Just because it's for kids doesn't mean that it has to be weak sauce story and theme wise.


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COBRA'S WEATHER DOMINATOR.


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Aranna wrote:

It is aimed at a younger audience than Clone Wars was at the end.

Clone Wars got DARKER at the end.

It was pretty harsh during season 1. I'm pointing to two episodes in particular CLOAK OF DARKNESS (Episode 9) and LAIR OF GREVIOUS (Episode 10)?

COD was the one where Assaj Ventress is sent to either rescue or assassinate Nute Gunray (we're not sure which until near the end). There's a pretty violent on screen death at the end of that episode that kinda knocked me back a bit while watching it with my then 6-7 year old son.

Or the following episode where Kit Fisto and his Padawan take on Gen Grevious in his lair? Which again results in another on screen death that's pretty brutal (for an American produced kids show).

I think the show was already dark in the first season. But compared to later seasons (Including the fate of a certain group of clone troopers... *sniff* Fives *sniff*) I could see how it might look like it was sunshine and butterflies.


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In Clan of the White Lotus, it opens with the main character and his brother fighting the bad guy (or was it the bad guy's brother?) fighting. Eh, it's been a while, if you couldn't tell.

Yeah, at the beginning Hung Wei Ting and Hu Ah Biao are fighting and defeat Pai-Mei. It's Priest White Lotus, Pai-Mei's classmate who comes after them for revenge later on and sets off the chain of events for the rest of the film.


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Pretty much any Venoms era Shaw Bros movie.

In fact Quite a few martial arts films, it almost seems to be a staple where the surviving good guys HAVE to team up to fight the main bad guy because he's just that good.

Now that I think about it? The final fight in the first THE RAID film with Rama (the lead) and Andi vs. Mad Dog is one of the best recent examples of the heroes pretty much being out classed and out fought by a tougher and more skilled opponent.

Start at around 2:20.

another really good example is the end fight of the underrated Shaw Bros classic MAGNIFICENT RUFFIANS.

HERE

This fight really kicks into high gear at around the 2:28 mark. They try to each take the bad guy individually before that but realize at a certain point that they have to try and take him together.


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Auren "Rin" Cloudstrider wrote:
actually, Star Wars was one of my favorite franchises when i was a small child and Outlaw Star was one of my favorite anime series growing up. what both have in common is you have a massive amount of species, high technology and powerful magic intergrated with the technology. for example, the Jedi are wizards who wield switchbladed swords that have blades made out of superheated Plasma and Gene Starwind Fires a heavy pistol that uses special arcane ammunition.

This.

And also a show that does technology and magic pretty well?

AVATAR: THE LAST AIRBENDER and the LEGEND OF KORRA.


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I kind of hope that it does. The human race is pure garbage. May this planet needs and enima..

SKYNET!!!! HEED MY CALL!!!


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I think people here have a very different definition of what "good" is or how "good" works than I do.

Selling yourself into slavery isn't exactly what you'd call "good". How bad did things have to get for a person to sell themselves as chattel? If you are slave to a master can that master beat or rape you with impunity? As a slave do have any rights? More importantly, as with here in the US, how much of those rights ACTUALLY protect you and how much of those protections aren't worth the paper they're printed on?

A "good" outcome would be someone apprenticing that person in a trade or skill so that they could eventually sustain themselves again. There are always going to be lazy screw ups who don't want to do anything and leech off of the populace but I believe a fair amount to the people want to EARN what they want.

But Good? Just like Evil has to be an active thing. You have to be ACTIVELY doing something to promote (don't know if that's the right word in this case...) "Good" or "evil". Thinking good thoughts isn't cutting it. Thinking evil thoughts isn't cutting it.

The very notion of owning another person whether it's against their will or voluntarily is abhorrent to me personally but no matter how many times I hear it, I'm always surprised by the matter-of-factly way people discuss any type of slavery.


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Rogar Stonebow wrote:
There were a minute # of slave owners who treated the slaves with respect. Even friends. The slave owner worked the fields with the slaves and were truly only slavers because that was only way to save them. They educated their slaves which was against the law. If you called that slavery would you call it evil still.
I've got some swampland for sale. I have a feeling you might be the buyer I have been looking for.

I'm glad that you addressed this. This is typical right-wing revisionism to put forth the idea that "Hey! American Slavery wasn't that bad! See another thing that these silly negroes cant complain about anymore!"

There may HAVE been an arrangement or two like this. But the vast majority of them were the other type.

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