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MMCJawa wrote:
"...Sorry?"

That was the part that had me laughing the hardest. Just the expression on the Hulk's face and then the cut to Tony's face from inside the armor then the beat before "...I'm sorry."


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Ultron's blasts are concussive. They always have been, even in the comic books.

Game stats say "Concussion Blasters mounted in the hands capable of inflicting up to Monstrous Force damage at a 4 area range."

So that's 75 points of damage the range of more than 4 basketball courts.

A normal human has a health of 22, so 75 points would flatten him.

Captain America has a listed health of 150.

So those two blasts that he took that fight should have got him too... which system are you referencing here, by the way?

the FASERIP system of course.

Worlds greatest superhero roleplaying game system.

Suck it champions!

And now I know for a fact that you and I are MORTAL ENEMIES.


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Glad I moved back to Florida.
You win the prize for creating a sentence never thought or uttered by another human being before you. Congrats!

Heh.

Seriously though, Florida may have a bad rap because of all the weird s*#$ that goes down, but the state's not a bad place to live at all.

Just like anywhere you have to filter out a lot of people you don't want to meet, but it's a nice place to call home.

Plus, we don't have as much of an alligator problem any more. Those new pythons are eating them all!

Wait...Pythons?!? How is that better?


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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
No, not really. Why?

I know I do.

As long as there are good cops protecting bad ones, nothing is going to change.

I've been saying this for years.

But as of late I've given up on the notion of (and up unitl recently it was a notion I held on to for a looooooong time) "good cops."

If the entire black community can be blamed for the actions of a few? Then I think, especially since the police hold the greater burden and responsibility due to their position, the same can be said of the police. As long as they stand silent and watch their brethren break the law and murder unarmed civilians they're pretty much ALL suspect.


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Re: The Skye Gun-Fu fight scene.

While I liked it It was nothing new or spectacuar at all. Really. Watch the club sequence in last years underrated JOHN WICK to see where they possibly took the inspiration from.

Start at about 3:11 up until 4:52


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Krensky wrote:

Shin,

The Major is the only member of Section 9 with a fully prosthetic body. Batuo and Borma have heavily augmented bodies with military grade parts. Ishikawa, Paz, and Saito are minimally augmented with police grade and civilian (although top of the line civilian) components. Togusa is, of course, unaugmented.

The Majors body is a mass produced civilian body chosen to be nondescript and forgettable and then heavily modified with military grade components and illegal civilian modifications.

That's right. the only detail that I remembered from watching the series was that of all of them Togusa still had his human body and was asked more than once by the Major and I think Batuo when he was going to take the leap and augment. I really liked Togusa and the fact that he's a pretty sharp detective, family man and fully human but can be capable enough to work with the rest of his teammates in Section 9.

God I really need to watch these series again...


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People complaining about her acting are only focusing on her recent roles I wonder? Because she's been around a while now and while not one of those actresses who disappear into the role (there are very few of those around these days though) she's fairly competent.

Ghost World, Lost in Translation, Match Point, Don Jon are all pretty solid performances by her. The girl CAN act.

All that being said while I'm not a fan of the GITS movies I think that Stand Alone Complex and Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig are AMAZING shows. And if they strongly establish the concept of trans-humanism in the script for the movie and that the "Scarlett Johansson" body is just another shell that her ghost occupies? Then I could buy it. But if I remember correctly from the show (which I haven't watched in a while) wasn't her body as well as Batou and the rest a different grade than the standard civilian shell? More specialized and expensive? If that's the case then I wish that they'd chosen an actress closer to what Major Kusanagi looks like in the show, manga and movies. Japan, even Japan in the far future is still a fairly homogeneous place unlike America or parts of Europe.

Even with that being said if the movie turns out being good I dont care as long as it's a good movie. I mean I liked Man of Steel and Henry Cavil LOOKS alot like Kal-El but the Superman in that movie wasnt the Superman that I grew up reading in my teen years (Tail end of Pre-Crisis - Post Crisis John Byrne Superman). Still was able to enjoy that movie on a different level.


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I wouldnt oppose a mostly compatible PF 2.0 per se. I just wouldn't support it with my money. I'd just keep playing with the MASSIVE amount of PF resources that I already have. AP's 1 - 91, all of the RPG Hardcovers, 3rd party Support (Deep Magic, Ultimate Psionics, Rappan Athuk, Slumbering Tsar, Advanced Bestiary and that's not even including the 3.5 stuff that I have)

If the more people want a PF 2.0? Let 'em have it. I dont want it and I dont think that if youre playing a home game that there's anything that wrong with the PFRPG that cant be fixed at the table between civilized and rational human beings. People that just want to argue about rules just to argue or to be right or whatever aren't people I'm interested in playing with.

Discussing rules and why they dont make sense and putting heads together to fix the rules for that group is encouraged and is normal, productive behavior. I'd prefer to spend energy doing that and playing.


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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
I am reluctant to assume that the entire movie will be GRIMDARK!!!!! all the way through based on what little we've seen here.

That would be a fair point of view to take except that trailers aren't cut in a vacuum. If that's what they showed us that's exactly how they want the movie to be perceived. They showed us dour and grimdark!!! because that's the tone that they wanted to set and let the perspective audience know that's what this movie is.

Now personal preference aside...


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Marc Radle wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
And considering a lot of Trekkies weren't too fond of those movies because they weren't very Trek-ish, I fear what he will do to SW.

I've been a huge trekkie for more than 20 years, and I know a LOT of other trekkies, and everyone I know really liked the JJ Abrams films quite a bit.

There is certainly an online vocal minority that keeps trying to perpetuate that myth, but the truth is most people liked the movies.

I'm sure, especially given that Abrams has been a massive Star Wars fan since they first came out, he's going to knock this film out of the galaxy

The only Trek series that I really liked was Deep Space 9. And the movies that I really liked were WRATH OF KHAN and UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY.

My actual favorite Trek film isn't even really a Trek film it's GALAXY QUEST.

That being said I liked the JJ Abrams STAR TREK reboot quite a bit. INTO DARKNESS? Not so much. I felt that some of the big moments in that film werent really earned and felt empty. But then again he was never much of a real Star Trek fan but he's a HUGE Star Wars fan. SO I have high hopes for the new movies now.


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The entirety of my 3.5 collection has seen zero use since Pathfinder released. I pray the same never happens to my Pathfinder books.

Almost the same for me although I suppose it' easier to use 3.5 stuff in your Pathfinder game from the GM side especially Spells and Monsters. Reskinning stuff from both Fiendish Codexes and The Draconomicon and before I got the Pathfinder versions of the Tome of Horrors book I used the 3.5 versions all the time.

But yeah a lot of my other 3.5 stuff went unused. I had to clear it off of my shelf to make room for the new Pathfinder stuff...


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Rub-Eta wrote:
Where's that horse when you need it?

Dead from the beating that these boards keep giving it.

Apparently people keep spending the money to keep raising it from the dead only to beat it to death again.

Deep pockets this lot has. DEEP POCKETS.


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After seeing this trailer I now have no interest in seeing this movie. I think I might be one of the few people who is not a DC fanboy who actually liked MAN OF STEEL and was hoping for a straight sequel to that movie. I had my issues with parts of the film but nothing was problematic enough to mess with me enjoying the movie.

But this thing that they're doing here? Superman is a light a beacon of hope for humanity. This movie looks DARK. Not only visually but tonally and really while a little darkness is a good thing when used appropriately (and in the case of Kal-El , sparringly) this thing seem GRIMDARK!!! for GRIMDARK'S!!! sake.

And Batman? At this point we get it. HE'S DARK BROODING AND ANGRY. Jesus... But even in the animated series and JL and JLU he occasionally had a sense of levity (a dark one and even a self effacing one...)

I could use some air support...

Also, going right to the Dark Knight Returns Superman v. Batman in powered armor thing reeks of desperation on DC's behalf. UGH. I wanted to like it and maybe I'll give it another chance after it's release but not excited for this at all.


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Havent they already introduced the Kree in both Guardians of the Galaxy AND Agents of Shield?

The Kree were the ones who experimented on different species with the Terrigen Mists. They've said that in the actual show itself during the most recent Lady Sif appearance. The primary antagonist of that episode WAS Kree.

Ronan the Accuser was Kree.

Between the terrigen mists, The Guardians and the appearance of the Kree on Agents of Shield I dont think that there's going to be a lot of issues with introducing Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel.


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HERE

I think I might have teared up a little bit there at the end.

I'm actually a little more excited and hopeful now. Only time will tell though...


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John Kretzer wrote:

Actually I would love to see the Punisher in Daredevil using the storyline from Daredevil two part story. Where it ended up with the Punisher going to jail...because well he was the villain. I can't remember the issues number but I know it ended with Daredevil shooting Punisher.

** spoiler omitted **

Yeah that might have been Child's Play (Daredevil 183 -184, I THINK. I'm remembering one of the covers with the Punisher shooting Daredevil in the gut and the one after it has Daredevil pointing a gun at the viewer..). Where Frank was going after these dealers who were selling to and killing kids. I remember Frank cradling the dead body of a little boy he just killed "So Young..."

EDIT: The scene that I mentioned above actually takes place at the end of 182 as a prologue to the next issue. He kills the kid after he surrenders not realizing that he was so young

Kid (dropping his gun): Please--I give up...

Punisher shoots him anyway.

Punisher: This is WAR. I dont take prisoners.

Next Panel - Punisher is holding the body of the last guy he shot just now realizing that it was just a kid.

The agent who sent Punisher on this Job: Uh--Nice Work. Something Wrong?

Punisher: The last one i shot...

next panel a close up of the Punisher and the dead kid -

Punisher: A child. Just a child.


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John Kretzer wrote:

Actually I would love to see the Punisher in Daredevil using the storyline from Daredevil two part story. Where it ended up with the Punisher going to jail...because well he was the villain. I can't remember the issues number but I know it ended with Daredevil shooting Punisher.

** spoiler omitted **

Yeah that might have been Child's Play (Daredevil 183 -184, I THINK. I'm remembering one of the covers with the Punisher shooting Daredevil in the gut and the one after it has Daredevil pointing a gun at the viewer..). Where Frank was going after these dealers who were selling to and killing kids. I remember Frank cradling the dead body of a little boy he just killed "So Young..."


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MMCJawa wrote:
Set wrote:
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I'm pretty sure they died in CA 2, at least all of them except the woman that Black Widow was camouflaged as. No idea what's up with her, but it is reasonable enough to assume she died in the coup.

They died in the end there, when Pierce revealed his treachery and delivered electrical shocks through tags that he gave them earlier.

Bah, that's just the three that showed up to Pierce's meeting. We know from the Avengers movie that there were at least five of them, and one had the voice of Powers Boothe. :)

I assumed Powers Booth was Pierce's predecessor, who was probably fired after the whole "Lets nuke NYC" decision.

I think that you probably hit the nail right on the head with this one.

Pierce: If this council goes to rancor every time someone pushes us on the playing field then maybe we need someone to oversee US...

In THE AVENGERS, Fury addresses four members of the World Council but in WINTER SOLDIER there are FIVE (four and Pierce).

Of the original World Council Members in the Avengers only Jenny Agutter reprises her role in Winter Soldier. Aside from Powers Boothe the other two members were somewhat in shadow but look close enough to their replacements Chin Han and Bernard White. I wonder if Alan Dale is replacing Powers Boothe and Redford's Pierce was added to the council after the Battle of NY to provide additional over-site to Fury and Shield.


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Ivan Rûski wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
Frank's sole intent is to MURDER those soldiers. Yes saving the hostages is an acceptable byproduct but the main goal is to KILL those wrong doers BECAUSE...KILLING

Frank's main goal may be killing, but not because murder, but because they were killing innocents. I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree.

Anyone else notice ** spoiler omitted **

Yes, for Frank it's an excuse TO murder. It's what he chooses to do. But in the end youre absolutely right lets just agree to disagree. Just to clarify, I'm not saying that there hasn't been good stories centered around Frank Castle. Some of Garth Ennis' work on The Punisher is great, especially the BORN mini-series.


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[Chanting]Season 2...season2...season 2[chanting]

Really love this show, hoping for another season. Pissed about ** spoiler omitted ** Not really loving the costume at the end though. Something about the cowl doesn't look right. To everyone who loved that episode 2 fight scene, if you've never seen it, track down the original Oldboy. It's a Korean film and they very much took inspiration for the hallway fight from a scene in that movie. Even if you can't find the original, there was an American remake done last year that should be easier to find with a similar scene.

I think both versions are on Netflix. So if you can watch Daredevil, you can watch either of the Oldboy films.

Ok, cool. Hadn't checked Netflix for them since I own both on dvd.

EDIT: Oh, and are me and MMCJawa the only ones who like the Punisher around here?

Maybe. I know Punisher's big thing is that he kills bad guys, doesn't just capture them or stop them. But I mean...within the MCU that isn't exactly a unique property. Iron Man and Thor are both pretty lethal, especially Iron Man in the first movie, who is functioning as international vigilante.

I do think Punisher works best as a contrast to characters like Daredevil or Spiderman, but I think you could make a pretty good show based around Punisher and his roaring rampage of revenge against the folks who killed his family.

Let's not mince words, Frank Castle is a PSYCHOPATH and a SERIAL KILLER. He just kills criminals. There's nothing appealing or sympathetic to me about him as a character, to me anyway.

The difference between Iron Man and Frank is this: Iron Man is intending to STOP those soldiers from murdering civilians. If some get killed in the process? It's not an entirely desirable outcome but for Tony as long as the civilians are safe...

Frank's sole intent is to MURDER those soldiers. Yes saving the hostages is an acceptable byproduct but the main goal is to KILL those wrong doers. BECAUSE...KILLING.

That's a BIG difference.

I mean if you want to go there Captain America was a soldier during WWII. He's killed the hell out of some nazis. But as Captain America in the present he's not going to gun down EVERY DRUG DEALER in the joint or decapitate them with the edge of his shield because...you know...MURDER.
Has Cap had to kill in the present? Yup. But usually when the choice is "if I dont stop these terrorists before they set off this bomb that will kill hundreds..." and in those cases if his shield knocks a terrorist from the top of a moving train to the ground 60 feet below...


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Hama wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:

The Death of Jean DeWolfe was a pretty gritty Spider-Man story that at it's climax had Daredevil trying to stop Peter from crossing an ethical line that probably would have destroyed Peter after the fact.

And alot of people forget that both The Kingpin and The Punisher started out as Spider-Man villains before Frank Miller pretty much Co-opted them for his Daredevil run in the early eighties.

That being said I dont think that "gritty" Spider-Man should be the norm. At that point you're really talking about creating a different character. Should there be some darker stories on occasion Sure. But a Spider-Man show with the tone of the Daredevil one is something that wouldn't appeal to me at all.

What issues were that?

Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man 107-110


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First if there's no PDF of a game and it's other material I'm not buying or supporting the game. That's pretty much where I stand at this point. As a GM it's crap loads easier for me to prep using PDF's, cut and paste and text editors than it would be for me to run an encounter out of a book with flipping pages and all that.
Also carrying books to a session sucks unless it's on my ipad or laptop then it's awesome.

Hopes: That Paizo keeps producing material that is useful to me.

Fears: Running out of physical space for Pathfinder books. I do subscribe to the RPG and AP lines so right now I'm clearing pout old WOTC 3.5 material to make more room for Pathfinder stuff. I'm never getting rid of certain 3rd party 3.5 stuff so when I hit my space limit...


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About the only thing that I like about Frank Castle appearances are when he shows up to remind guys like Daredevil and Spider-Man that they aren't killers at heart and that they should leave the killing to guys like him. It's almost like that while he kind of derides them for the spandex and their morality he also wants to protect them from the their own demons.


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The Death of Jean DeWolfe was a pretty gritty Spider-Man story that at it's climax had Daredevil trying to stop Peter from crossing an ethical line that probably would have destroyed Peter after the fact.

And alot of people forget that both The Kingpin and The Punisher started out as Spider-Man villains before Frank Miller pretty much Co-opted them for his Daredevil run in the early eighties.

That being said I dont think that "gritty" Spider-Man should be the norm. At that point you're really talking about creating a different character. Should there be some darker stories on occasion Sure. But a Spider-Man show with the tone of the Daredevil one is something that wouldn't appeal to me at all.


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Ivan Rûski wrote:

[Chanting]Season 2...season2...season 2[chanting]

Really love this show, hoping for another season. Pissed about ** spoiler omitted ** Not really loving the costume at the end though. Something about the cowl doesn't look right. To everyone who loved that episode 2 fight scene, if you've never seen it, track down the original Oldboy. It's a Korean film and they very much took inspiration for the hallway fight from a scene in that movie. Even if you can't find the original, there was an American remake done last year that should be easier to find with a similar scene.

YUP! I thought of Dae-Soo as well.

Here's the fight in question:

Oldboy Hallway Fight


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Of course movie and TV fights arent realistic. About 75% of the moves used in these fights are impractical and wouldnt work in a real fight. Having boxed and gotten my ass beat in actual street fights trust me I can tell the difference.

But as far as choreographed action for entertainment goes the fights on Arrow arent bad at all. I don't watch superhero movies / TV for realistic fights, I watch them for entertainment. Even MMA and traditional Boxing aren't "real" fights. There's no ref, there's no banned strikes or moves. Most importantly there's no standing eight count or ten count or refs to protect the fighters.

I mean for all that, his level of accuracy is unrealistic for the situations that he often gets in. It's hard enough to hit a moving target at range with a bow in low light under decent circumstances, much less when youre moving, your target is moving and people are shooting at you and youre jumping and or flipping around. None of it is realistic. But it's entertaining. That's why I watch.


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The first episode is pretty solid and starts to set up conflicts to come.

It's just the first episode but I'll just say this as disappointed as I am in POWERS is as excited I am about DAREDEVIL.

I mean they REALLY got this right so far.

The only thing i'm a little disappointed in is the fight choreography and staging. (I'm a big fan of well done fights which is one of the reasons I have issues with the Batman films and really like what they've done in ARROW. Even though they've stolen directly from movies like THE RAID...) They're not bad but not great. It's just the first episode and according to Christos Gage (one of the writers) the fights get better and decidedly more brutal.

So yeah...CAN'T WAIT.


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Lorathorn wrote:
Rather, I imagine that he is commenting on the potential shift in development away from such practices as 3rd edition's penchant for releasing thick rule ladden themed books like the class guides and so on.
Yeah, Paizo would NEVER do anything like that.

So what's the theme for the Advanced Class Guide?

As opposed to the Complete Fighter, Complete Scoundrel, The Complete Mage etc, which is what I think Lorathorn was referring to.


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Arguably Dawn of the Dead is a superior sequel to Night of the Living Dead.

I dont / can't compare ALIEN and ALIENS because they are effectively two very different films. ALIEN is a horror movie and ALIENS is a siege/action movie with very different expectations in the way that they approach entertaining their respective audiences. I love them both but to me one isnt better than the other. It's like comparing THE GODFATHER to GOODFELLAS both are well regarded period mafia movies but that's where the similarities end.

BLADE II is a better crafted film than the first one and I tend to watch it more than the first.

CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER is a much better film than the first one although a very different film almost due to necessity. The first is an enthusiastic, nostalgic 1940's adventure movie with a protagonist who just keeps getting bad breaks (I mean aside from the super soldier serum does Steve ever really catch a break? He's constantly loosing people who are close to him but still presses on to do what he feels is right often at great sacrifice. Which is on course why we love him.).

WINTER SOLDER is a pretty cynical spy thriller / man out of time story with the same character in a modern setting still trying to do the right thing in a world that's even less black and white than the one he left in 40's. Not to mention it's really the only movie in the MCU that shows Cap being the ABSOLUTE BADASS that he is.

If you only count the opening sequence in X-2: X-MEN UNITED? it would already be a better movie than it's predecessor. But you also have the attack on the mansion and that entire final set piece at Alkali Lake makes the first movie look like a big budget afterschool special.

SPDER-MAN 2. The Spidey vs. Doc OCK fight on the building then on the speeding train. Never mind that there's NO ELEVATED TRAIN IN MIDDLE OF MANHATTAN. Still awesome. That and you have the montage of EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT FOR PETER to Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head which is hands down my favorite part of the movie after all of the CRAP that kept hitting Peter. I mean Harry slapping him at that party was just BRUTAL. It's the one Spider-Man movie that go Peter's life absolutely right. Being Peter Parker often...mostly...SUCKED.

There is ONE good DIE HARD movie and that's the 1st one. None of the others have recaptured the feel and excitement of the first one. Even when the 3rd movie was directed by John McTiernan who directed the first film it was still a hot uneven mess.

T2 is just bigger louder and and more explody. Not that I dont like that but it's in no way the better film of the first two Terminators. There's an OH CRAP desperation during the last 20 min of that first film that's really not recaptured in any other films since. The lack of budget shows in that first movie but in a weird way it really sort of helps the movie sell the grit and verisimilitude.


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Pan wrote:
Zeugma wrote:

In my opinion, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is the best of the Sergio Leon spaghetti western trio. The others lean more heavily on , while intensifying the violence of, standard western tropes -- but TGTB&TU expands outwards and builds this whole fantasy west in an almost archetypal pastoral that is like no other western.

The "Ecstasy of Gold" theme, "The Good's" theme (Dadadadada...Wa-waaa-wa), and the standoff scene are right up there with the Odessa Steps scene in Eisenstein's Battleship Potemkin as a defining moment of cinema.

I also agree that Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is better than the other two films that precede it. The 4th Indiana Jones film...<shudder!>

I agree the The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly was the best in the trilogy. However, Fistful was an adaption from Japanese story Yojimbo which made it uniquely not typical western trope. The sequel Few More though fits that description well. Also, agree with your assessment of TGTBTU.

While I really enjoyed the first three Indy films, I still feel like Raiders was the best. I enjoy Temple and while not the best Indy film it takes more flack then it deserves. There is no amount of vitriol that is too much for crystal skull.

Yeah, but if you dig a little farther back? Yojimbo is actually an unofficial adaptation of either Red Harvest OR The Glass Key both of which are Dashiell Hammett stories.

I'm not a fan of THE LAST CRUSADE and find it poorly edited, rushed and just way too goofy for me to enjoy now. I used to love it and just fell out of love with it upon repeated viewings. That being said I still adore the tank chase near the end which is my favorite sequence in the movie.

RAIDERS is still my hands down favorite of the bunch with TEMPLE OF DOOM being my second favorite as it's closer to it's pulp roots than any of the other Indiana Jones films. Raiders and Temple of Doom are like your two kids who you love without question but for different reasons.

There are parts of CRYSTAL SKULL that I really, REALLY like. The opening in chase/fight in the warehouse right up to the rocket sled was great. The fridge? not so much.

The truck chase through the jungle? THe pacing is great and everything is flowing right up until...the monkeys. UGH. The fight in and around the fire ants kinda made up for it but yeah the mood was already kinda ruined.


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Col Hans Landa from Inglourious Bastards. "The Jew Hunter". Intelligent, well educated, charming yet a sadistic villian. Passive aggressive style is cunning but he is pure evil. Enjoys killing. He is like an Ivy League Serial Killer.

That's funny because that's not the impression I took away from him at all. The pure evil thing I mean. To me he was just doing a job that he was well suited for. I dont even think that it was personal for him or that he even fell for the whole ayran superiority angle. The other SS officers and officials came across as way more odious than Hans Landa.

The one thing that I think that he took personally was

Movie Plot Spoiler:
The discovery of who the double agent was after the tavern shootout.

How he dealt with THAT was most certainly personal.

But otherwise, he was just a guy doing his job. Granted his job was the hunting and execution of other people whom the state deemed undesirable...


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I'll be 44 this year and I started playing RPG's when I was 12 so that MIGHT make me a grognard? But it's not a term that I embrace or want to be referred to as. Not really a positive thing in my opinion.


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WormysQueue wrote:
But I still don't buy the argument that it was the continuous advancement of the timeline which hurt other settings. That had much more to do with creating new versions of a given setting via stupid world-shaking events and thereby creating a rift between the fans of said setting. Greyhawk suffered as much from the Greyhawk Wars than the Realms suffered from the Spellplague combined with a one-hundred-year time leap. On the other hand, the 3e Realms is a perfect example, how you can advance the timeline without alienating the fans.

The problem is one of the implied buy-in to join the game. If everything we published built on itself and added to the world's timeline, then in order to fully appreciate and understand a product, you would be under the assumption (and rightly so) that you would need to buy and read everything that came before. Suddenly, the "get to know Golarion" prospect goes from one book (the Inner Sea World Guide) to EVERY book... and that increases by 2 or more books every single month.

Not only does that make it increasingly daunting for a newcomer to Golarion... it makes it increasingly impossible for a new writer to come in.

By keeping things static, we basically ensure that anyone, be they a new gamer or a new writer, can hit the ground in Golarion with only the Inner Sea World Guide and not be months or years behind schedule. Yes, there are plenty of other details in our other products that add to the setting, but since the timeline isn't hardcoded in as advancing, the newcomer can pick and choose what elements to focus interest in.

There's a second, equally important reason we don't advance the timeline, and that's because we don't want to self-obsolete our products. Kingmaker remains as viable an adventure path to play today as it did the day it was published, but if we'd advanced timelines, then the implication would be that you could ONLY play the adventure paths in the order they were published. That's not good for the brand, not good for...

Yeah this is one of the reasons that I love Golarion and HATE, HATE, HATE The Forgotten Realms. The Metaplots and all of the continuity and the implied need to have to read or study the entirely of the realms and all of the NPC's and UGH.

I like that Golarion is defined not by events crafted by fiction novels but by the adventures that you can actually take or leave. and being that I've been an AP subscriber from the beginning obviously I'm taking.

But yeah please dont go down the route that TSR / WOTC did with FR. That would be the PATH OF SUCK.


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ShinHakkaider wrote:
The Sword and the Sorcerer.
That was the one with the threebladed rocket propelled sword, right?

Yup.

D00d when a movie opens with the revival of a long sleeping sorcerer who promptly as a display of his power TELEKINETICALLY EVICERATES the witch who revives him?

WIN.

SO FULL OF WIN.

Also Lee Horsley was a great as Talon who was pretty much the perfect Neutral Good mercenary. I love how pretty much EVERYONE either knew him OR owed him a favor or knew him AND owed him a favor.

One of my favorite parts of the movie is near the end when these two kings are there at Cromwell's coronation and notice that it's Talon who is being crucified and theyre both like:

"Is that Talon?" "Sh*t we gotta help him" The other king is like: "D00d what about the treaty with Cromwell?!?" and that first king is like "Damn the treaty!! We wouldn't HAVE kingdoms is it wasnt for him!!!" And sure enough these two draw their swords under the table and wait for a moment to help their friend.

I LOVE THAT MOVIE.


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The Sword and the Sorcerer and Hawk The Slayer.


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Mark Seifter wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:

Either way, much respect to Lisa, Vic, Erik, Jason, Mark, Wes, James and anyone else that I'm forgetting.

Thanks Shin! We strive to put out products that you can be proud to play with your son. Your post is really special to me in particular because it's probably the first time I've been on a short list with all those other names.

Don't tell me you actually meant Moreland or you'll break my little designer heart.

I JUST saw this post and uh...yeah I meant BOTH Marks in this case! Yeah...That's the ticket...


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IceniQueen wrote:

Don't hate me... To me this is the WORST book out so far. I got mine and find this book great if you are a new player, or you want to Min/Max your character so bad it is not funny.

I am seeing more and more of Pathfinder becoming a Min/Maxer system. I see it in PFS, I see it in regular play. This book offers nothing to a player of more than 5 year.

If your new to Pen and Pager RPG, then this book might be for you, that is if you want to make a character that is so bad arse they can kill a dragon at 5th level. If you want to play a good realiastic flawed character that is far more fun to RP... then avoid this book.

But do not take advice from a gamer of 30+ years, unless you want good advice

EDIT: Ninja'd by glio!

Under the heading of "Who this book is for" on page 5 of the aforementioned book:

"...Instead, we’ve made this book as both a guide for new players and a handy
teaching reference for experienced role-players.
This book will teach you the following:
- The basic terminology and concepts used by the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. - How to create player characters and advance them from level 1 to level 20.
- The basics of combat, from moving around the battlefield and engaging with foes to more advanced tricks like combat maneuvers and tactical analysis.
- The foundations of roleplaying, from meeting arch-mages and queens to solving mysteries and bargaining with dragons."

Under the heading of "What this book isn't" on page 5 of the aforementioned book:

"This book also isn’t intended to give experienced players advanced insights or cunning new strategies for optimizing their characters. The various guides in this book will show you how to make a character that is effective and fun to play, but
they are intended for new or inexperienced players as well as for those unaccustomed to playing that type of character." .


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jemstone wrote:
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Lvl 20 is not enough for you?

Dragon Age boxed set 3, which would give us 11-20, has been "Coming Soon" for some time, now. Unless I've missed it entirely and their page is grossly out of date.

My hope is that Blue Rose will give the AGE 11-20 rules enough of a workout that both things can come to be - new Blue Rose, new DA. :)

It's been released for a while now I think.

I mean GR is getting ready to release a compiled Dragon Age hardcover with all of the rules from all three sets.


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Castilonium wrote:

Good ones cite their sources and show people all relevant RAW in an impartial way, regardless of who it helps or hinders. They also try not to disrupt the game too much.

Bad ones are much more vague and selective when explaining the rules, or they distrupt the game a lot.

I havent read the rest of the thread but at it's core this is it for me. Fortunately I have a player like that at my table who will correct / point out a rule even if it hinders or screws him.

THATS an awesome player and a good example of a rules lawyer. The self serving dickbag that only does it when it benefits him? That person can stay away.


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Sissyl wrote:

People who see that a GM is banning things and conclude that the GM is close-minded because the GM could "simply escalate the challenge".

Option bloat has made the game quite different since the beginning, as illustrated by the difference between core only and expanded PFS play.

"Simply escalating the challenge" is a pretty massive heap of work. You don't volunteer to do it yourself, you don't get to dismiss it as "simply" anything. Do your GMing for a while, and see if you still think it's as easy as "simply escalating the challenge". Not to mention not everyone has oceans of time, and even if they do, time spent "simply escalating the challenge" for one player is time that could be better spent working on everyone's fun.

Finally, and most damning, the normal situation is that one or maybe two players push the envelope with the characters while the others do not, leading to intractable power imbalances between the players.

Solve all the above, and that complaint starts to carry water.

*BLINKS*

Your response to this is so full of AWESOME I cant stand it.

When I start with new players in a new group as I did a while back everyone started core only. Now granted at the time the CRB was the only release but still. I needed to see how this group worked, if they were into playing fair and moderating themselves and their respective characters and builds or were they going to be abusive and be like "Not my problem the game is designed this way!!"

Basically i needed to see if I was gaming with a bunch of jerks or at least who the jerks were. Because if youre part of a gaming group? and youre only concerned about YOUR fun and ignoring how your fun impacts the other people at the table? INCLUDING your GM? Youre a jerk.

I lucked out with my longtime group. I've said this before here but they are REALLY a good bunch of PEOPLE. I have two players that know the rules pretty well and can whip up some TRULY high damage dealing PC's. And I'm fine with that. WHY? because the one time one of my players created a character and had it play and it proved to be so dominating and untouchable, he said you know what? I'm gonna tone this down a little bit. On his own. Without riding that particular build into the ground.

I think allowing most things into the game should factor in several things: Are there jerk players who are going to abuse the rules almost exclusively their favor and crap on other peoples fun? (We probably shouldn't be playing with those people anyway...) Should the DM be able to adjust difficulty to deal with these powerhouses (and more importantly not have to deal with players COMPLAINING about the difficulty in one or two encounters that actually challenge them...)? Absolutely. Is there mutual respect given between players and Gm's. (For GM's - You know, adapting to a players concept. Them getting to build the character that they want within reason. Player's - Respecting the fact that being a GM is work and takes a fair amount of energy to do in order to help make sure the group IS having a good time).

Personally for me, if we have that balance, I'm good.


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Kalindlara wrote:
Who wouldn't want to be a Social Justice Warrior? That sounds awesome. :D
Definitely, it doesn't sound like an insult at all. This is what I think of when I hear that.
It highlights the ridiculously misplaced self-importance of people who make up reasons to be offended on the internet pretty well to me.

So basically this entire thread then?


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jemstone wrote:
It is because there are no more Jedi that Luke becomes important. The reason that Luke is such a big deal in the movies is because he's basically it as far as the salvation of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader is concerned. Luke is the last of the Jedi. Period. End of story. Vader tries to recruit him because he believes that Luke can be turned. That he can be made to see the folly of the light side and that Obi-Wan and those like him are the real bad guys. And when Luke won't come willingly, Vader plays against Luke's newfound love for his long-lost sister. Vader tries to turn Luke into a being of rage and anger, just like him.

But...Luke ISNT the last Jedi.

It can be argued that Luke doesn't actually become a Jedi until that moment when he tosses his lightsaber aside rather than kill Vader (because at that point he's still Vader not Anakin).

But in Empire when Luke decides to cut short his training to go rescue his friends doesn't Obi-wan say something along the lines of "that boy is our last hope" to which Yoda replies "NO, there is another..." I mean he's obviously talking about Leia there. Leia is their plan B. Hence even at that point in the story Luke isnt a Jedi but Yoda is already looking PAST Luke just in case he does not survive his encounter with Vader or WORSE he gets turned.


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While I agree with Aranna's point that Ahsoka is technically still a padawan, she's a war time Padawan with the experience of a battle tested field commander. With everything that she's been through I wouldn't be surprised that she wasn't far from being a full fledged Jedi. But it's fortunate that she WASN'T, otherwise she would have probably ended up being a casualty of ORDER 66.

Also? does anyone remember what happened to Ventress? Last time we saw her she was helping Ahsoka try and clear her name but after that?


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I just want to point out that in Star Wars (1977) Tarkin was convinced that the Jedi were "all but extinct", but Obi Wan and Yoda were still around.

If those two got away and hid for years then it stands to reason that other Jedi got the message and laid low too. I mean obviously some wouldnt or couldnt but I personally like the idea of side stories of Jedi either giving up the life and doing other things or having to fight the Empire without exposing themselves for what they really are.


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With any luck she will come out the better in that confrontation. Remember supposedly Vader's motivation was to protect the ones he cares about... I think he cares about "snips".

True, but I'd think at this point he's had a few years under the corrupting influence of Palpatine and a few Jedi purge kills under his belt. I wasnt Ashoka's biggest fan when the show started but she really grew on me as they started to flesh her out as well as her relationships with the people around her. I was happy to see her but then realized that her relationship with with Anakin/Vader was probably going to come to a hear in the coming seasons.

Also? was anyone kind of sad to see the fate of the inquisitor? I kinda liked him as a primary antagonist.


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Dragon78 wrote:
So I am the only one thinking of S.W.O.R.D.?

NOPE.

Since I'm pretty sure that Joss was the one who created S.W.O.R.D. in the comics...


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I was enjoying the return of that particular character until the very end of the episode when Vader made his appearance.

It hit me that we're probably going to see a confrontation / showdown between the master and his former apprentice. And that's probably not going to end well...


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It isn't so much that the lack of PDFs will kill them; it's the "we know best" hubris behind it (and the lack of a licensing process, and the C&Ds, etc.). Any number of people have been asking for a PDF/ebook option for years to no avail. Companies which ignore their customers to that extent do so at their peril. Seriously, taking nothing away from Paizo, the TTRPG market was WotC's to lose in 2008, and lose it they did. Spectacularly.

These days If a game doesn't have a PDF electronic version of their books I don't play or support it. It's just that simple for me. Digital real estate is cheaper than physical space and allows me to store and transport more. It allows me to look up rules and other elements of the game quicker and with ease whether i'm at home or at work on a lunch break or waiting for a flight at the airport or sitting on a plane.

I've read actual books on my ipad and phone but to me game books are reference books. I dont usually read them from cover to cover or try to commit them to memory but just use them to find specific information that I need at the time. If a publisher is set on making that difficult or not even a possibility then I cant support them. In this case I wasn't going to be supporting WOTC anyway but the chance that I would have at least picked up a PDF of the player's handbook as a PDF would be good.

The Basic PDF is not a good stand-in for the actual full text in this case. Not for me anyway.


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I got my Bones II package yesterday and I TRULY regret not springing for Khanjira, the World Breaker.

UGH.

2013 Core Set x1
Narthrax Dragon x1
Lords of Darkness x1
Heroes and Villains x1
Gelatinous Cube x2 (one for my son)
Hill Giants x1
Demon Lords x1
Cinder Dragon x1 (for my son)
Dragons Dont Share x1


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Freehold DM wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
thejeff wrote:


Has that ever been done before? A headline hero where even the readers don't know the secret identity 5 books in?

Not sure about 5 books in. Thunderbolts made it through their first issue w/o the reveal, 2nd if you count their hulk appearance (and that he slipped up and called Meteorite Moonstone.)
Love Thunderbolts, although the more recent incarnations haven't been my thing.

Yeah the Busiek then Niceiza runs are really damn good. After that? Not so much...

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