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The Skinsaw Man

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Goblin Squad Member. Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Card Game, Cards, Companion, Maps, Modules, Roleplaying Game, Tales Subscriber. Pathfinder Society Member. 2,032 posts (2,037 including aliases). 9 reviews. 1 list. 1 wishlist. 1 Pathfinder Society character. 2 aliases.


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Scarab Sages

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It is okay Brother Silverhair. I am still open to your conversation if it is already done. And also excited for the official conversation next year.

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It says he is stabilized so I assume all day. Of course he is likely to get healing soon after that.

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Thank Greg. I knew it was coming up but did not remember that it was that soon. I really look forward to it. I should delve more into the 3.5 book for my current campaign being that is where the group is hanging out these days.

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I am very interested in the Bards Gate NPCs being converted.

Scarab Sages

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I can't wait for more RA. But then it will likely take years for my group to get back to RA at the rate they are going. But they will likely finish TofA in the nest few sessions.

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Yes, there is a lot coming out in the next couple of years.

What I love about the Frogs is that they do a kickstarter to print a book but all or most of the work is done before the kickstarter.

The current one originally said it would be out in July and even if it turns out to be August or September that is so much better than so many other companies, who sometimes have not even written anything or much when they do the kickstarter.

I could name some folks here but will forego that...

Scarab Sages

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I know we will get more maps as we go along...

A few weeks ago I saw Bill's hand drawn map under glass. It was impressive. I think as it has developed as products the map has changed some and I think over the next few years we will get the whole map.

It will not be a quick process.

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Steve, I said this in the other thread where you asked me about this.

The Frogs on the boards have said they are not going to do subscriptions again, but they did say someplace that there would be more RA material but they have not talked about those plans yet that I have seen. I try to read all the Frog threads.

Scarab Sages

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It is the end of the subscription that we paid for way back when....

And the Frogs have said many times that they will not do another subscription model.

But they have also said that RA will continue to be expanded but have not talked more about those plans.

And of course they are working on a lot of new stuff.

I look forward to it all.

Scarab Sages

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Cyclopean Deeps 2 is part of the original 24 month subscription. It came up when I was talking to Bill a few weeks ago.

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Ah, the GUT. I love the GUT. Our group never when all the way through but they had three PCs out of five die there. The two remaining characters did their best to sneak back to the Mouth of Doom.

Scarab Sages

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Rappan Athuk is almost 1000 miles away if you go by the scale on the map. Nothing is close.

I sat down with Bill and talked about this a few weeks ago. The second chapter of Serpent Skull is about a 1000 mile trek and it took several game sessions, like 4 to 6 (and we play a long time during a session), I suppose you can rush it along but there is always going to be something to slow progress and the group will want to check certain things out.

On the other hand I think that the idea of getting anywhere is a huge undertaking might bring in a mind set that I want. I am not sure yet but I am working on it.

Eventually the group will want to return to RA. I guess the trip should be epic.

SOA actually drags you all over the map if you are working on the actual quest. A short trip in the lost lands is at least 100 miles.

It is also almost 1000 miles to the Desolation from Bards Gate.

It is going to be a very long campaign...

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I put the map on the wall, actually both maps together, and just having it there they look at things like the Dragon Hills and wonder what is going on their. Greed can be a strong motivator.

If they decided to go find out what that, or anything else on the map is about I would let them go with no comment.

They will get themselves in plenty of trouble just having that map stare at them every time we play.

Scarab Sages

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My group has played several session in RA, and then got teleported near Bards Gate. They asked around town and found an issue they thought my be interesting to explore and started an adventure from Stoneheart Valley. They have been back to town twice since then and have been exploring a tomb between visits.

They are currently between 5th and 7th levels.

At this stage going into either Sword of Air or the Desolation will be an easy transition.

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I think one of the main ideas in the Lost Lands work is that sometimes they PCs run into things that they cannot handle.

I have a group in Bards Gate right now, they were resting from adventuring but had not completed the previous adventure. They wanted to sniff around for rumors and other opportunities.

I brought in the guy who asked them to help with the problem at the grave yard. They scared off the people in the graveyard that night and got an offer to meet Kaden. They were guided into the swamp to meet him and then went back to Bards Gate.

They then went off to finish the previous adventure with thoughts and talks about Kaden and his mission to the coast.

They also have a person who built a character that is very interested in the Desolation.

I have stopped worrying about CRs. I did say they probably wanted to be 7th level before going to the Desolation.

In these adventures 7th level characters are faced with rats and stirges, and then faced with CR11 horrors they probably should run from. It is more like it would be in the real world.

I think modern gamers have been programmed to expect only things they can handle (usually) in the order that they can handle them. They do not get skeletons at 10th level or CR 16 encounters. They get what they expect.

In the old days, and Bill is a very old days kind of gamer, it is more about exploration than it is about following a story. What I like about the whole thing is that my group can drop what they are doing and they can go on to the Desolation, or follow Kaden's quest or back to Rappan Ahtuk.

That whole book is not intended to be an adventure you run them straight through. It is almost a campaign setting with encounters. The main story thread may never be completed. They can go where they want based on some rumor, or get on the path of the Sword of Air story line.

I look forward to the Sundered Kingdoms. I will be running my in the Lost Lands for years to come, and may not run another adventure path for many years (although I will play them and collect them).

I am sure we will explore Tsar, the rest of Rappan Ahtuk, Endhome, everything in the Sword of Air.

Scarab Sages

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Alas, not only do I not have a hair dryer but I have no hair... :)

Scarab Sages

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Yes it is from the packaging. It is not a big deal...

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The gargantuans are a big reason I am a case subscriber.

When this whole thing started there were no gargantuan humanoids available. Now we have Rune Giants and a demon, and more dragons.

I agree about colossal figures. Another thing that is missing besides a bunch of different colossal dragons is a humanoid colossal. That would be awesome. And of course a couple of random monsters in that weight class.

I also think we need a gargantuan spider or some such. Just a thought. The expansion of gargantuans is awesome and growing, and still limited.

And I am excited for what we have so far.

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I have two of the dragons sitting on my desk now with rubber bands around their left wings to pull them up a bit. In the packaging that wing is pushed down against the dragon's body and look weird that way.

I received them yesterday and I think I almost have them the way I want them. It was not a big deal to move them.

They look good. Obviously Pathfinder dragons. They fill up the base as compared with some of the other gargantuan dragons we have gotten.

Scarab Sages

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Players Guide is in the bag. Life is good...

Scarab Sages

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That is funny but it all still applies, and the OP does not say so, but of course in 2011 the PFS version was not out yet.

Scarab Sages

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I would never mess with Malag.... NEVER.

Bump

Scarab Sages

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Yes, Mr. Silver Hair - totally agreed.

Scarab Sages

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Holy Crap, that is a serious article. I will have to read it when I have time. I thought I would look it over but.... Not right now.

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My two cents...

Rappan Ahtuk is a huge sandbox. As are many modules set in the lost lands.

My group got to the third level of the main dungeon and got teleported out.

They are in Bard's Gate and exploring a local dungeon there. Trying to recover a priest who disappeared.

While in Bard's Gate they have been exposed to several other possible adventures to go on.

The point is they are deciding where they will go, I am not driving them in any way. They will eventually decide to go back to Rappan Ahtuk or they will follow one of the other threads they have pulled on.

Bill is an old school player and DM of D&D. He runs his games in OD&D. The industry has evolved over decades. The early days of D&D were more about exploration than a plot driven save the cheerleader, save the world kind of thing, which is more of an AP thing that is totally plot driven.

As someone who started playing in the 80's, I like the old school, Keep on the Borderlands, Lost City, Tomb of Horrors kind of play, and Bill brings all of that to the table.

In the old days the game was more lethal.

There was fear in the characters, caution. They did not rush in but walked forward with their 10 foot pole tapping the floor. They checked for traps everywhere.

The had puzzles to solve.

They often had to run in terror from something so horrible they knew they were about to die.

It is all about the exploration.

If a present day DM wants to run this dungeon, have them bring a second character, warn them they may go from rats to something too difficult to handle and let then wander where ever they want to go. Do not lock them in to the dungeon. Have other places to go, other things to do.

Get all of the current Lost Lands products and create a whole world of places to go.

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Keeping at the top....

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PLAYER'S GUIDE. Come on Baby...

Scarab Sages

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Funny...

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The Sketchy Inn was almost the end of my group. Two died there in ways I will not describe.

When they awoke in the morning after resting there they came into the common room and ordered breakfast, one had the sausage.

But in the room ahead of them were four ogres and three goblins.

It was an interesting breakfast to say the least. The second character death was a result of the morning conversation. The whole Inn was one of my favorite encounter areas in the GUT. They never did finish going through the GUT. They were two down after the Inn and just wanted to get back home.

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bump. Come on, Daddy needs a players guide.

Scarab Sages

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I love the Sketchy Inn...

Scarab Sages

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It has not finished spawning so it depends where you are in the lineup. I doubt that your new subscription has anything to do with it. It seems kind of random. Some months I am right up front and others I am way back in the line. I think the computer randomly selects the order so that the "A" do not get the grade school advantage.

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I want the players guide too.

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Bummer...

Scarab Sages

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I will take a look at it.

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They are in Stoneheart Valley now. I believe they will complete the TofA over the next few sessions but they just spent a week or more in Bard's Gate in recovery mode after finding the Temple of Orcus.

So, they decided to dig around in town and I let them meet the contact for Kayden in SoA. They met Kayden and want to do a quest for him. They also have a party member that wants to go to the Desolation.

SoA also has a lot of information on the wilderness around Bard's Gate.

So, the are in Bard's Gate and I am not sure if they will go back to the TofA, or engage in SoA, or go back to RA. They do not seem sure either but I think they will finish the Tomb.

I have not thought about placing the Black Monestary someplace they will notice it.

But I would love to give them Endhome for a base of operations.

They have a lot of ways to go...

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I had 5 when I started my RA game and I am up to 7 or 8 now.

Of course they are far from RA at the moment and I am not sure they will ever get back but then their is Tsar and the Sword of Air.

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Best snake ever.... That is awesome.

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I found it both in Pathfinder and S&W, due to come out in September. I thought is was going to be a kickstarter too. But you can preorder it here for when it is published.

Frog God Games are doing kickstarters on their large books because they need the money to print them. I imagine this is a kickstarter and will be available here afterward as all their books are.

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Just saw the Complete Northlands S&W for pre-order on the Paizo site. I thought there was going to be a kickstarter on this...

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Mine has been shipped. They are out and getting into the stores. I have not checked my local store being I have ordered them from Paizo at a discount.

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$22,182 - moving right along...

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I would put them on the slow track. I have found that even that is faster than I would like it to be.

The only maps I know of are those that were done for d20pro but they are only RA and do not include the changes brought in by the Volume 1 expansion.

At this stage of things I wish that all adventures came with players maps separated out.

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Yes, I saw it... Wow...

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When they have the new dates from a different company. They do what they can.

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I am liking the inner sea hardcovers in general.

I hope one of these days we get other areas of the world and I get that is not going to be soon.

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Marco,

These are not a Paizo product. They are a Wizkids product that is licensed through Paizo to make Paizo creations into minis.

Paizo does not have control over the release of the product, although they work with Wizkids and therefore, have a ball park date that might be a moving target as it is in this case.

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Excellent. Love Lovecraft...

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Thank you Greg. Appreciate it.

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Putting down the cult of Razmir (has become a goal of mine)

Distant worlds (less interested in planet hopping than just one or two)

Barsoomian type thing

First world

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