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I have the same issue.

Though it is also showing 2 copies of the Character Add-On Deck: one pending, and one shipping in September.

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Vic Wertz wrote:


ryric wrote:
...especially with the guild scenarios which can be more intricate due to having more space for text. Someone mentioned villains in the blessings deck and I'm not sure that he was joking.
I was not joking. That scenario was actually played at Gen Con...

Yup. It was a cool mechanic.

Without being too spoilery, it meant that you had a definite timeline as to when the villain would first appear, and knew what you had to accomplish before that.

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I registered the 2 characters that I played at GenCon.
How does one register Jirelle?

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On certain Space Station, Soviet Cosmo Sanitation Engineer blames you!!

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Hey TanRu, I also played Scenario 3 with you and your brother, as Arabundi the ranger. I seem to be pointing at you in the picture on the Paizo Blog. Good times :)

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The promotional stuff that Obsidian had at GenCon for the card game looked great. Beautiful artwork.

I got to play a demo of Pillars of Eternity there, and it was a lot of fun. And I got a hip flask for trying it ;) They were also showing demos of another CRPG based on Norse mythology which seemed interesting. Unfortunately the name escapes me, and it doesn't seem to be on their site.

The representatives were extremely coy about what was on the horizon, but I think it is reasonable to guess that the card game will be available in other formats (notably PC).

Personally, I understand the reluctance in announcing a Pathfinder CRPG. They have Wasteland 2, Pillars, and the other RPG all releasing this year, and some of them still funding. Don't steal the thunder away from the in-house product, and allow anticipation to build on the Pathfinder game.

I also feel that there is an AP that could be used which was highly regarded, would be relatively spoiler-light, and could have some non-traditional RPG mechanics built in: Kingmaker.

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I played a total of 9 sessions over the course of the convention, 2 of them failed due to the blessings deck, 1 due to the slot time expiring. My main character got thru all 6 scenarios, and my secondary was only used in the session where real time expired.

IMO, the most difficult scenarios were the 1st and 4th. The first is very swingy, based on the fact that your character decks are especially weak. As well, people were less familiar with the abilities of their characters (as they were all new), and there were many new players. One of the main reasons my group had time expire in the one session was that a GM stopped by and got into a long conversation with a new player about how all of the different products worked - good promotion, but not great in a 2 hour slot where 2 out of 4 people are learning the game. The 4th scenario was a boon hunt, requiring you to close every location. Our 5 experienced players got it on the very last card of the Blessings deck.

The 2 scenarios I failed were 1st and 3rd, but I don't believe the 3rd was particularly hard, just bad luck.

A lot of people complained about the 2nd scenario, but my group sailed through without difficulty. I think our success was due to evaluating things ahead of time, and responding appropriately to the locations.

Overall, the scenarios had well-written backstories and a few interesting twists. One scenario uses the same Location in multiple places. One scenario had a Henchman printed on the scenario card, and you just used proxies in the decks. Other scenarios summoned extra Henchman & Villains, or strengthened the Villain based on the remaining Henchmen, or had no Villain. I will be interested in seeing the price point on the Adventure package.

A couple of things tripped up the table GMs. The Adventure Number for these scenarios was 1, not 0. Even if you fail the scenario, you get to upgrade your deck by dividing acquired cards and plunder.

Overall for the completed 6 scenarios and adventure, I received the following: 3 card pulls, 1 skill feat, 1 power feat, 1 card feat, the ability to use the 2 Loot cards in setting up future scenarios, and unlocking Jirelle as a playable character (using the Rogue Class Deck).

There was also a token given to us for every session we played. 2 Tokens allowed us a roll for a prize in the PFS room. Unfortunately for those of us who were only playing cards, the vast majority of those prizes were Boon sheets for PFS. Understandably, there was not much set up for our Season 0 sessions. Hopefully at future conventions there will either be a separate table for Guild, or we can have the option of getting something else instead. Not a complaint, just a constructive criticism for the future. I enjoyed giving the boons out to random players :)

We also received Goblin Keelhauling promos for playing.

Most importantly, it was a fun way to spend a lot of the convention. And I met and gamed with some really fun people. Justin & Jordyn, it was great meeting you!

And thanks to Tanis & the crew. They all put in long hours so we could have fun, and overall did a great job.
And I'm quite happy that I got my Base Set signed by the majority of the Lone Sharks :)

Advice for those wanting to run Guild games...
A Table GM is really only needed to run the 1st Scenario, especially if there are new players. Avoid getting into protracted discussions at those tables, however, as it really penalizes the group in a short session.
Later Scenarios really only need a co-ordinator of some sort to sign off on sheets, answer rules questions, monitor time, and check in on the group occasionally.
Make sure players know that losing the Scenario due to the Blessings Deck is not unusual, and you get a deck upgrade each time.
GM/Co-ordinators should concentrate on familiarity with the Org Play rules, and with new rules for the set (Ex: Ships). You will probably have players who can deal with most other rules issues, but need guidance in those areas.

Have Fun!

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*shakes fist* [Werner Klemperer]Cosmoooo!!![/Werner Klemperer]

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jimibones83 wrote:
Ahrien wrote:

I see none commented on the price increase. So far, a retail medium miniature used to be around $3. (4 iconics for $13, boosters with 3 medium and 1 large (that could be counted as 2 mediums) for $15).

And now we see a 66% price increase in the minis (6 for $30 it's $5 per miniature). I know there are PACG cards included, but come on, a $2 increment per mini is a bit step.

Thing is I wouldn't mind paying $5 per iconic IF Wizkids can get it right, but my faith in them is severy lacking right now.

I bought the Icons of the Realms starter box from the new DnD minis, that used a similar model of cgi-generated minis and those are NOT worth $5 each. Will Wizkids really produce some quality minis for these iconics?

On a side note, I like the idea of an animal companion or Eidolon, but you could also release 6 miniatures packs with only 4 iconics, the companion/eidolon and a new miniature that would represent commonly played characters that have not yet got a miniature.

You could use the Pathfinder Society characters (lvl 3+) to gauge which type of characters people are playing the most that are not already represented.

First off, your maths wrong. 3 is 60% of 5, meaning it's only a 40% increase, not a 66%. Also, 4 iconics for $13 is actually $3.25 apiece. Lets just use that figure so we don't have to debate whether or not a large should count as 2 mediums. $3.25 to $5 is only a 35% increase. A significant increase, but far from 66%.

Alternatively, you could also say it is a 31% price decrease, because the singles on this site total $43.75 (using 3.25 for Valeros). And 4 of the 6 miniatures are currently on backorder/unavailable at that price. Compare that with what you pay on EBay, and you save even more!

Fact is, you're comparing apples and oranges. The Beginner Box Heroes were an introductory product for a new line, released 3 years of oil price increases ago. The boosters are random miniatures, and the only "guarantee" that you would get the iconics in the set is if you bought a case.

EDIT: The only valid comparison so far would be with something like the Evolution series.

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Lornis, look in this section of the boards for the Pathfinder Adventure Card Guild.

Short story:
It debuts at GenCon.
Yes, it uses the Class Decks.
An event runner will also need the S&S Base Set, and possibly the Add-On and any current Adventure Decks, to run the scenarios.
Due to a printing problem, the Class Decks have been delayed, so the Guild will not be starting in stores until September.

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A shame, but I'm sure everything possible will be done to allow people to play Guild games at GenCon.

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Erik Mona wrote:
Pigraven wrote:


I do second Scribbling Rambler's question, who is the fifth iconic in this set? Was he/she left out on purpose or was it by mistake?

By mistake. It's Sajan, and he's up now! :)

Thanks, Erik! I like that a lot better than the other possibility which occurred to me (Erik meant to say there are only 5 minis in the pack).

Sajan's link is currently broken, but he looks awesome! One of my favourite iconics. EDIT: Working now. Even awsomer!

Never underestimate the appeal of the iconic characters. Even a non-marginalized gamer like me appreciates the diversity of the characters, on top of the quality of their depictions over the years. Actually, the first depiction of Kyra on the cover of Runelords Volume 3 was something I used to show to many local gamers as an example of how Paizo was breathing new life into the genre.

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DropBearHunter wrote:
Swiftbrook wrote:
The Bad: I think the value of iconic minis is going to take a big hit (and I have each one currently produced).

So what?

How many people are buying them as an invenstment?
Does their loss of after market value really outweigh the demand for iconic sculptures of those who joined the game later on?

I just hope WizKids have their qualitiy control problem sorted out by the time these are ready to ship.

I think the problem is not so much the "investment", where one is hoping they will increase in value.

It's more about the person who just bought a Seelah mini yesterday at $30 (no idea what it actually goes for), and now knows that there will be a cheaper option and that the price will probably go down on the mini they just bought.

I'm not saying that is a valid enough reason against making these new sets, but it is a concern, and a concern which has been previously acknowledged by the Paizo folks (one of the main reasons these will be all-new sculpts).

Personally, I have all of the iconics so far, bought multiple copies of the original set of 4, and I cannot wait for these new ones.

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Blog wrote:
Each set comes complete with six figures—five iconic Pathfinder heroes and one associated creature,

So who is the 5th iconic in the first set??

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Casts resurrect thread.

I had a couple of Paizo-positive experiences in the past week.

First, I made a post in response to a blog that could have been seen as a snarky shot against the company or staff. Instead, it was taken in the spirit intended - as a bit of fun ribbing between friends. So far, it has been "favorited" by 2 current and 1 former staff members.

Second, I received extremely gracious responses from 2 regular freelancers whose products I reviewed. While they are not technically Paizo employees, it goes to show that the awesomeness of the people who work for Paizo extends beyond the HQ.

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captain yesterday wrote:

this thread is for those to show their dissatisfaction with WotR (hence the title) of which there are many (who are right too btw)

Actually, the Original Poster said that the title was intended to refer to his own "failed" campaign, not to denigrate the AP as a whole.

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Set wrote:
Kajehase wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Oh, now I've just seen Cosmo-as-Ziggy-Stardust in my head, and the screams are still echoing around in my skull.

I can't blame Cosmo for this. It's all on you Kajehase!

Ah, but it's not Kajehase's fault that Cosmo slipped into his Ziggy Stardust suit and crawled into Kajehase's dreams.

Little Cosmo in Slumberland!!

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Win RPG Superstar.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:

Eric you mentioned a

"Pathfinder Iconic Heroes Boxed Set to be released in October"?

Will this be a collection of the Pathfinder Battles Iconics

SEELAH, HUMAN PALADIN (H&M)
HARSK (RR)
SEONI (RR)
LEM, HALFLING BARD (SS)
AMIRI, HUMAN BARBARIAN (SS)
SELTYIEL, HALF-ELF MAGUS (SAS)
LIRIANNE, HUMAN GUNSLINGER (SAS)
LINI, GNOME DRUID (LG)
SAJAN, HUMAN MONK (LG)
ALAIN, HUMAN CAVALIER (WR)
IMRIJKA (WR)
FEIYA (RW)
?

That would be awesome!!!

At a SRP of $39.99 i know i would buy it!

He mentioned that in the Minimates section.

They have repeatedly said they will not re-release the past iconics, even as re-paints. Maybe as a complete re-sculpt...

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*sniff*

They're beautiful!!

And never in my wildest dreams did I expect a Squealy Nord figure!

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Morgana wrote:
Scribbling Rambler wrote:
So there was an error in the logo reigon??
You are a cruel, cruel man. You probably just gave James a horrific flashback.

Cosmo's fault, somehow.

Both the misprint and the mistaken impression of my cruelty.

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So there was an error in the logo reigon??

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I blame Cosmo for... The Quandary.

It must be bad. It's capitalized.

I also blame Cosmo for my sudden realization that each of the dots in an ellipsis stands for a "DUNH!"

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You know why I chose this alias.

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Chris Lambertz wrote:
Katina Walk up in da club like what up I'm a tuber

[AhnoldVoice] IT'S NOT A TUBER!! [/AhnoldVoice]

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Hello.
I messed up a bit with this order, partly due to my unfamiliarity with the new system. As I was going thru, I kept figuring I would run into the option to ship with my next subscription... but it never came.

Would it be possible to hold this order to ship with my first volume of Iron Gods (and hopefully my Character Add-On Deck)?

As always, I appreciate your help.

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Yes, the shemhazian demon is for this set (per the PaizoCon announcement round-up).

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jimibones, I don't think you can flat-out say their opinion is wrong, anymore than I could just say that yours is.

Bottom line, the AP has not even started yet. We have no idea how heavily skewed the encounters are towards sf or fantasy. And it has been said in the past that they prefer to wait for an AP set until after it is complete, so it can be more representative of what actually makes it into the AP.

Personally, I believe that a decent set can be made from any AP, including Iron Gods. I've been trying to put together a Jade Regent list which would work, and the problem is trying to cut out acceptable generic figures. However, any sf elements in Iron Gods would have to be limited to a small percentage of the set. Just like RoW has only the 2 soldiers, and S&S has only 3 figures with guns and the Cannon Golem.

So while I respect people's opinions about how much they want an Iron Gods set, nobody can really be sure until we actually see the books.

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Kyle Baird wrote:
Raymond Lambert wrote:
Kyle Baird wrote:
Yes, play The Confirmation 10 more times in the next month.
Mr. Baird, you should petition for the chance to run your scenario as often as you like at Gencon, as the last official chances to play open access Aasimar and tieflings.
I am signed up to run it several times. Come find me!

Oh Hi, Admiral Akbar! What are you doing here???

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Zhangar wrote:

I would guess that the goal for the summoner is to make something that Paizo can actually use in an AP - the Rivals Guide is the only thing I can think of that actually had statted up summoners. Otherwise, Paizo stays the hell away from the things as NPCs or opponents.

There is one in a recent AP volume.

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Rakshaka wrote:

Woops, meant Cloaker, not Choker. Forgot the Basi's were medium. I would still like some Dark, Lunar, or Water Naga as well.

There are also already 2 water nagas in Skull & Shackles.

I somewhat agree with your general point. To be honest, I feel that way about goblins.

However, I have no problem with one more generic troll to "fix" the earlier problem. I just wouldn't want to see many more.

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Thanks! I will restart with the Character Add-on Deck as soon as I receive the confirmation. :)

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Silverhelm wrote:
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Your My Subscriptions page should indicate that you will be getting both items, the base set and add on deck in August. If it doesn't, make sure you have a shipping address set on your subscriptions, I emailed several people last week who were missing shipping addresses which caused the second item not to show in the estimation for August. Even if you have chosen to pick up at Gen Con, we still need to have a shipping address on file for the subscription and its future volumes.
Sara I'm trying to cancel my subscription could you help? I've tried calling and emailing So far no success. Thank you in advance.

Silver helm, you should start a thread on the Customer Service forum.

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Please lovely customer service people, cancel my Adventure Card Game subscription.

I will be re-starting the subscription ASAP, but the shipping for the big box is too much.

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Vic Wertz wrote:
danielc wrote:
Zorka wrote:
So, I'd like to chime in here because a lot of what people are complaining about seems off base and unjustified to me. And nit-picky.

So you think this Feiya is ok as is and you would be fine with this fgure?

I am not okay with that.

My Feiya looks almost identical.

Zorka, I agree with many of your points. In general, this line has had minis which are superior to other lines which have been offered in the past. Even though I wrote a negative post, I feel that the majority of the miniatures I got in this set are well-sculpted and have acceptable paint jobs. Even the miniatures with horribly painted faces may have other features which are very well done.
However, we have seen better in previous sets. So I feel justified in asking for something better. Especially from a "marquee" miniature like the only iconic in the set. Also, this is the first time in Battles that I have received badly painted Large miniatures.

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A shame.
I was quite happy when this set was announced, and pleased with the previews as they were coming out.
Then there was the disappointment of the dial back on the set.
Today, I picked up 1 brick. While the paint on this set is not generally as bad as it was in LoG, it is still below WotR or S&S. And a few of my miniatures (notably Feiya, the Falconer, and Ratibor) are hideous. Even the Triaxians and Maftet did not fare well. Further, even a couple of the large figures (notably the trolls and centaurs) have paint errors which are barely covered for by the scale.
Also, the collation seems off (tho it may be due to rarity changes). I received 5 duplicates out of 1 brick, yet there were a couple of "Common" miniatures I haven't seen yet.

On the other hand, I received a couple of very well done miniatures, including Baba Yaga.

I will probably buy another brick, but it's unlikely I will get the 3 or 4 I had planned on.

EDIT: Oh! Another thumbs up for the bubble bags. I had no minis break, but my Ratibor was missing an arm.

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Rysky wrote:
I've recently started playing in a Legacy of Fire PBP. Go ahead, guess what I'm blaming you for right now.

There's actually a couple of possibilities there....

As much as I like to blame Cosmo for everything, I think Mona is responsible for a certain monster...

So you must mean goats!

I also blame Cosmo for goats!

Evil split-hooved bastards

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Very late to this discussion, and I agree with the majority of the posters here that the intent is reasonably clear. Further, 3.5 rules are a good indication of intent, unless it is something which has been clearly changed.

I'd also point out that the Glossary clearly spells out that standing from prone is a "move-equivalent action", as opposed to a "move action"

But this caught my eye:

Anachrony wrote:


In summary, yes you can stand and take a 5 foot step. Or if you have a belt of the weasel, you can do a 5 foot crawl and then stand.

Anachrony, a 5 foot crawl is a move action which provokes, so that is not a very effective weasel ;)

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Causemo's fault that anytime I see the name Norgorber, I think "Ehrmahgerd!!"

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Tels wrote:
We're Camerinassian.

Everybody should get that procedure done when they reach a certain age. It's nothing to be embarrassed about.

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Isil-zha wrote:
Lorian: ** spoiler omitted **

Not all of them. There are several hobgoblins.

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The other mini from H&M that was cited as a size issue was the Dire Rat, which seemed quite large.

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Sharaya wrote:
Christopher Anthony wrote:
Sharaya: I need those in my mouth right now
Regrets phrasing again.

Are we not saying phrasing anymore??

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"I don't think that word means what you think it means."

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I'm going to indulge in an internet tradition, and over-analyze Erik's blog post so I can randomly speculate...

Erik The Boss wrote:
We'll fill in some gaps for encounters based on existing Pathfinder Battles figures...

As I recall, there was some regret about releasing the Shattered Star set concurrent with the AP. And one problem mentioned was that certain key "figures" were missing. So I wonder if we might see that AP rounded out a bit.

And hopefully a few thrown in for Crimson Throne and Second Darkness, the Varisia-based AP's without sets... and maybe even Jade Regent.

So I'm going to echo the earlier wishes for Red Mantis Assassins and Varisians, and add a wish for some Shoanti.

Though that may exceed the human quota.

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Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
I blame Cosmo for The Last Fart Bender.

I blame Cosmo for the First Fart Bender.

And also for Bender.

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Erik,
I think that you've done an excellent job at balancing the character/monster mix. I understand whey various people will individually want more of either, but I think you've managed to get the right proportion. And I think that you've responded well to gaps (more female characters, female monsters, animals,...)
I also hope that you don't sacrifice your one weird choice per set, as I usually find them to be an interesting addition. However, it is possibly a problem when it is an AP-themed set and both your choice and the case incentive come from outside the AP (not actually referring to this set, as it's obvious plans changed).
I'm okay with the switch to fewer sculpts going forward. I can see a time where we may get "sequel sets" for the popular AP's (ex Reign of Winter 2), because there will be enough cool things left to represent.
However, it is extremely unfortunate that it was implemented with this set, and apparently partway through the process. I'm quite certain the choices would have been different if this had been a smaller set from day 1. And personally, my group will be well into Book 3 by the release date, so the changes will impact my purchase... I'm already past the majority of the set, based on distribution.

As far as Tiny miniatures, I would be perfectly happy if I got a Small atomie or lyrakien (for example) which I could just say is Tiny. And size didn't stop us from getting a Quickling ;)

I'm very interested to see what comes next... and the one after that.

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You should post this in the Pathfinder Society section of the boards. I'm sure the thread will get moved there on Monday.

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Isil-zha wrote:
HM had only 40+1 figures.

Apologies.

I couldn't remember, and looked on Kor's site. There is an error on the main page, but I should have counted.

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Heroes and Monsters was the same size as this set, 55 miniatures. And Legends of Golarion was also thematically loose.

But I agree with you that Damiel is the most likely of those 3 remaining characters from the APG.

On the bright side, there should be a lot more available iconics around the time of the next minis release :)

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