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Christian Zionism predates Jewish Zionism by 50 years and both movements are less than 200 years old. (Christian Zionism was developed in the 1830's and Jewish Zionism in the 1880's.)
You mean you're just starting to notice the strange looks you get at work?
I'd have loved to see clustershot go, but that's just me... Nothing like ruining a table when the ranger can pretty much end the encounter on his init.
The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
I've been there. $20 out of pocket beats $80. When I was working in construction I was making $460 a week. Take out the $110 I had to pay for insurance...I was making roughly $23k a year. The jobsites were shut down for two weeks for Christmas, so 50 weeks at $110 a week is $5500 a year I was paying. Under the new law, $1365. Which works out to be $27 a week. And it gives me better options.
thejeff wrote:
It is. But it's compounded by calling themselves "christians". At one point I was actually debating whether or not to send them copies of The Satanic Bible. My wife talked me out of it.
Gendo wrote:
Thankfully, you don't speak for most of us. I'd gladly pitch in to help pay for Steve and others like him. I'd much rather be taxed than paying a for-profit insurance company, though. You rail against government run healthcare, but Medicare spends 65 cents on the dollar for healthcare. That's about 10 cents more than the "best" insurance company. Another way to look at it: the government spends $0.15 on overhead compared to the $0.45 that for-profit insurance companies.
Gendo wrote: What BNW just illustrated above with the 3 people insurance set up is exactly why I am against universal healthcare. Hank and Mitt aren't paying for their own just in case care, they are paying for care for Steve. That is wrong plain and simple. Dude, we're already doing that. We've BEEN doing that. Why do you think your insurance is so high? One of the proposals for Universal Healthcare showed that it would actually save us (the individual) money if it were a tax. When I was working, one of my co-workers was passing it around. As a tax it would have put $60 back into my paycheck. (I was paying $107 a week for basic coverage.)
Aretas wrote:
Actually, read Mein Kampf. Hitler very much shows that he was a christian. His favorite example about why Jews needed to be killed is Jesus and the Moneylenders.
Gendo wrote:
Just because YOU wanted to be stupid doesn't mean that others want to.
The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
The vast majority of people on TANF are there for a reason and are not gaming the system. In your example, did you ask about the toy cart? I've seen people on welfare save up for months in order to get things for Christmas. We were on welfare for awhile and my mom saved up for eight months in order to get me a really nice leather jacket for Christmas. She also saved up and bought my brother a tv. She had to go without, but people -like you- who didn't know any better, thought she had gamed the system. You're example is just an assumption. And it makes you look like the very first letters.
HeroLab is okay, but I've found errors in it far more often than I would like.
How Does Religion Influence Politics? editor: Stefan Kiesbye.
Plus a load of articles disputing Huntington's thesis.
Hitdice wrote:
I know. But that kind of logic makes me laugh.
Martin Luther was one of Hitler's biggest inspiration.
pres man wrote: Well, all I can say is I am glad I have not had the experiences you have had. I know if and when I have children I will tell them that if they feel they are in danger to try to get home or get help from an adult if they can't. I certainly would rather have my windows broken by vandals than to have my child shot or beaten to death in some dark alley. When I say they went after my mom, I mean they tried to attack my mom.
I'm playing in and running Carrion Crown. Both are very different games. Then again, I really try not to metagame, either. If anything, it's made things much more interesting. Group dynamics are key.
pres man wrote:
I've had people go after my mom when they were looking for me. Came home a few times and found busted windows and vandalism. Sometimes going to a public place doesn't help either. Usually ends up being the wrong thing because no one wants to get involved. I've been cornered before and had a cop just watch as four guys beat me up. I didn't fight back because I thought he would do something about it. Boy, was I wrong. I would have done the very thing that Martin did. Cops are S^%%. And I'm white.
XxAnthraxusxX wrote:
You and reality don't get along, do you?
No. He finally accepted himself and got lucky in love. Which is more than I can say for a lot of my straight friends.
We don't want the competition... Seriously, Pray-the-gay-away doesn't work. Every homosexual I have the pleasure of being friends with has always known they were different. One of them spent thousands of dollars trying to change his feelings and he was absolutely miserable, almost to the point of committing suicide. Then he met the man who became his husband and I know of very few straight couples that are as in love as those two. They've been together now for more than 10 years. Watching what he went through, I'm more than convinced that genetics plays a defining role in our sexuality. It's just that our brain and our genetic code is still so complex that we may never fully understand how it all works.
There's only so many ways you can call the Arizona Secretary of State a dumb@$$. There's also the conflict of interest thing he has going, being the co-chair of Romney's campaign in the state.
How does this change the fact that Zimmerman was told NOT to go after Martin? How does this change the fact that Zimmerman was the one that escalated the conflict? Maybe Martin inflicted the wounds trying to defend himself from Zimmerman?
DarkLightHitomi wrote:
The OP's character concept has been this way from the start of the campaign. The ranger and the DM knew this and STILL went with the undead horse. So yes, it is the fault of the ranger and the DM and the OP is the one getting punished.
meatrace wrote: Of the, like, eleventy-nine republican candidates this last year, the only ones that seemed okay to me were John Huntsman, Romney, and Paul. Gingrich is a smart guy, but he's also far too much of a sack of s##@. I still think Paul would be the only guy among them that would bring about genuine change--for good or ill! Huntsman was the only one I supported. I think he was the only republican that could have had a good chance of beating Obama. I would have voted for him. Romney is the Gop version of Kerry. Gingrich is the textbook definition of POS, and RP is even worse.
An athiest will fight for you to worship as you want. A christian will only fight to worship HIS way or not at all.
Darkwing Duck wrote:
That's about as clear as concrete. I could argue that you're not christian because you're not following X. Again, it's semantics.
Darkwing Duck wrote: The thing I want to stress is regardless of all the crap you see from the fundamentalist whackjob branch of Christianity, they don't represent the majority, just the ones who get the most camera time. It's all semantics.
Aretas wrote: Your use of personal insults while telling me "your side" is absurd. What does my personal opinion on homosexual marriage have to do with this conversation? Nobody is taking the rights of homosexuals away, I'm not advocating it. The swipe at Dogblade was a response to his offensive, rude remark. Swapping the words Girl for Warrior in his name was my response to him calling me bigoted. Grow up and get thicker skin. I actually refused to stoop to his level if you bother to read the short exchange. Except you've been insulting the entire time. Sorry. try again. Aretas wrote: The United States is indeed a Christian nation! Except they've specifically stated otherwise. You've chosen remarks from a small body of work that supports your position, whereas the majority of the works of the Founding Fathers is against that.
thejeff wrote:
Same here. But reading the letters to the editors the christians were outraged about it.
thejeff wrote:
My best friend spent years and thousands of dollars trying to "pray the gay away". He was always taught that being gay was a "choice". He choose to be "straight" and he was miserable. Once he accepted himself for who he is, he's been so much happier. He and his husband are the happiest couple I know.
Aretas wrote:
Really? Try this on for size: I KNOW what religious prosecution is like. I'm a buddhist. I was called a satanist. When a graveyard was vandalized, my friends and I were arrested for it even though we didn't know about it. I found out that I had been up for promotion to management on several occassins, but was passed over because I wasn't "christian". I joined the navy to get away from that. My friends and I were harassed by the police simply because we weren't the right kind of "christian". Unlike you, I don't have to look outside the country to find oppression. I can find it here in the U.S.
Aretas wrote:
Actually, very. Thankfully, there's this thing called the Constitution. If not for that... My grandparents were ordained ministers so I have a pretty good working knowledge of the bible. Yes, it oppresses women. Yes, it oppresses gays. Yes, it blames the jews for the death of "Christ". Where I live at, there are now 3 laws on the books that ban gay marriage. A law just passed that will close down 17 to 20 of the 24 clinics that provide abortion. There is a war on women. And for the most part, it's driven by christianity. Paul is considered cannon and an authority. What he wrote is what "God" said. What is in the Bible is considered the Holy Word of God by the early church fathers and is inline with what they thought of Jesus' message. It was people LIKE DD that really pushed me into studying it. And the more I studied, the more I questioned, the more I found the glaring contradictions, the less I became impressed until I finally had enough.
My wife is pretty new to gaming. I'm running them through Carrion Crown. In the beginning of Broken Moon they run into a couple of large werewolves. One of them starts to talk. My wife: "WTF? They speak? OH, hell no! I'm outta here!" The expression on her face and that she actually pushed herself away from the table, had us rolling. My wife is good for a lot of one-liners. Society play. They found out they were going to be facing off against a bard. They were like "We got this." Four rounds later, I've mopped the floor with the party. She looks at me, "Bard's are gay." Another player has a barbarian that has an ability that allows him to grow spikes. He demonstrated it by putting his hands next to his chest and pops out his forefingers and makes a popping sound. My wife: "Great. Just what we need. A barbarian with a tittie hard-on problem."
If it's stressing you out, you're not having fun, then quit. It's all about having fun.
Cibet, we'd be playing Brian Lumley Mythos not Lovecraft. Toss out the "Good Twin" idea of the Lumley stuff, him and REH work better for PF than Lovecraft does.
Ancient Sensei wrote: Also, you have this composition claim, too, and I am baffled by it. I never said "you'll never find any racism among tea partiers because I am not a racist". I said the movement isn't racist based on two things: I know hundreds of them and don't know any racists, and there's no evidence that the movement is racist. I am confused at the rush of some to point out classic logical fallicies without thinking about them first. I know quite a few Tea-Baggers as well. 20 years ago we'd have called it a Klan rally. I had the misfortune of growing up around racists. A lot of stuff I heard from them is very close to or the same as a lot of what I hear coming from the Tea Party. Just because you claim you don't know any racists doesn't make it any less true.
bugleyman wrote:
I find it very telling that those you espouse the view that being on unemployment is an incentive to not working, really have no clue what happens when on unemployment. It's almost as big a myth as Saint Reagan. I also love the myth that being on welfare is also an incentive for not working. In the late 80's and on through the 90's, where I lived at, if you were on welfare you also had to go through job training. This was under democrats. It paid off because people were getting and staying off welfare. It helped the economy and kept the unemployment rate at a lower level. But now that republicans have control, they have cut the program and the state is seeing more people on welfare and a higher unemployment rate at almost twice what it used to be.
I disagree with you, Bob. My NG Bard wouldn't hesitate to kill someone that the head of his faction ordered killed. To him, that target is a threat to the Ruby Prince and to Osirion, therefore the mission is valid. He doesn't ask why, he assumes that the Sapphire Sage has his reasons and that he knows more than my character. So to him, it's not an evil act. Other than that, he prefers to stay out of combat as much as possible. What you are doing, is overruling the writers and coordinators. And if you put down that my bard did an evil act by fulfilling his faction mission, I'd rip it up and have you write me another one. And I'd continue to do so until you left off the evil act. Fulfilling a faction mission, no matter how we feel as DMs, is NOT an evil act. But if in the course of my actions, I tortured others, burnt down orphanges, wore an Edgar Suit, etc..., then THOSE actions would be evil. That would warrant a talking to and a notation on the chronicle.
Studpuffin wrote:
That was funny.
We've made such a big deal out of going to college here, that it's hurt us. There's a kind of social stigma attached to not going to college. We're raised and taught that we should do what we enjoy, yet if we do just that people look down on you if you don't have a college degree. We're a money driven society. We've defined success by what we have in our house not by what we have in our lives. I love building things; working with my hands. And I'm happy doing that. Outside of allergies, I really haven't been sick in years. I know guys who went to college, have really good paying jobs but are so stressed out and sick all the time. Even their vacations aren't vacations because they take their laptops and work with them. Right now, I've gone back to school full-time so I can recover from a work accident. My degree has zero to do with my career, but I'm doing it because I love the subject matter. There are people in my class who have no idea what degree they want to pursue and are only doing it because it's something expected of them. One guy wants to get into construction, but his family feels like it's just a step above working the drive-thru at Mickey-D's. That it's the last resort for ex-cons, illegals, and those who don't have any skills what-so-ever.
GeraintElberion wrote: I always get confused by religious discussions, but isn't Catholocism the most popular branch of Christianity? And therefore 'most chrisians' would not regard it as heretical? Depends on where you are at. I live in Pat Robertson's back yard (not literally, of course) so I get bugged a lot by Evangelicals. According to them, because I was born and baptized Catholic, but was raised Pentacostal, I'm still considered a heathen. Most people don't consider the Ethopian Church part of the Roman Catholics. It wasn't until the mid-1800's that they discovered that the Church had several books in their bible that everyone else thought were either fragments or simply gone. Growing up and bouncing around and going to different churches, they all had the same attitude towards other sects of christian faith. It was always: if you don't follow X, then no matter how good your intentions, you're going to hell. Another thing I've never been able to figure out, but seems to have a lot of prevailence, is that the nation of Israel needs to be firmly established so that Jesus can come back to earth and the Jews can go to hell. It runs contrary to what is in the Bible, and every time I've asked, I get one of two answers: They aren't real christians or They lost the status of chosen when they crucified Jesus. It just seems to me that they got so caught up in the trappings that they lost sight of the message.
2e days. Half-gold dragon Cavalier. I was 12th level. Could breath fire 3 times a day. Boss fight. I used up my breath weapon taking out the boss and his henchmen. After the fight, I'm cleaning up and saying prayers for the dead. Hafling thief founds the treasure and sees a gem the size of his fist. The guy playing the halfling is 5'3" and weighed somewhere around 250 pounds. And he was hispanic which he played up. We're playing this at the game store. In character, he gets up out of his chair and goes running around the table screaming "MINE!" We're giggling at this. Finally, on his thrid lap, I get out of my chair, stop him, look him and take a deep breath trying to get myself under control and before I say anything, he says in a very tiny voice "Yours?" while holding out his hand. There wasn't a dry eye in the place. Nor was there a short line to the restrooms. Second: LG. Slot Zero a mod that had lots of undead. The DM was from the Triad in our region. My friend is playing a cleric of Wee Jas. They had just announced that week that Control Undead was considered an Evil act. Didn't matter what you used Command Undead for, it was still an evil act. I'm the other cleric (rogue/cleric trying for Temple Raider), so the two of us are the only ones doing any real damage to the wraiths that have us trapped in a building. The entire adventure he and the Triad member had been b+**&ing about the rules change. Finally, my friend looks at us, realizes the ONLY chance we have to survive is if he uses Control Undead. He says "Don't anybody tell the Triad..." and the entire table just dies laughing. He's looking around at us with a confused look on his face, before someone points at the DM. "Oh." Then it dawns on him "OH! You're on the Triad."
Third: Same guy playing a cleric of Pharasma. SoD AP. Book 4. They're fighting what they call the Gasoline Elemental. Fighter is caught in a grapple. Cleric goes through a bunch of spells before announcing that he only has a couple left.
Of course, whenever I say the phrase "Let me show you how it's done." my character shows you how to end up dead.
Anyone that supports Ayn Rand is someone I can't support. She held a convicted 1020's serial killer as her ideal "superman" of her philosophy. I would rather support a Scientologist.
On the John Carpenter website, he has wav files available. Of real use are the three monster sounds from THE THING. Great for chaos beasts/Spawn of Yog-Sothoth.
And another question: Continual Flame is a 3rd level cleric and 2nd level sorcerer/wizard spell whereas Darkness is a 2nd level cleric/sorerer/wizard spell. So if a cleric cast Continual Flame would that counter and/or dispel the Darkness cast by a wizard? According to the rules it's a higher level light spell. |
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