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Goblin Squad Member. FullStar Pathfinder Society GM. 854 posts (1,225 including aliases). 3 reviews. No lists. No wishlists. 9 Pathfinder Society characters. 7 aliases.


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kinevon wrote:
Gwen Smith wrote:
Acedio wrote:
Haha you can take someone's grappled condition?

That's an interesting question. There are multiple ways for characters to get the ability to grapple without gaining the "grappled" condition and its associated penalties, so I would say this is probably valid.

However, it would not change the fact that you are still held by the grappler who can still maintain the grapple and move you, do damage, pin you, etc. It would just mean that you don't take the penalties (-4 to Dex, -2 to attack, can't move, can't make AoOs, can't cast without concentration check, can't use two hands, etc.). Note that this is a really bad deal for the cleric, because for next X rounds, he has made himself really, really vulnerable and can't cast spells effectively.

There are more useful ways to free someone from being grappled.

Still held by the grappler, sure.

Maintain a grapple? No, since you no longer have the grappled condition and are, indeed, immune to it.
Move the not grappled but held target to a pin? I don't think so, since you have to have your target grappled before you can pin them.
Move you? No, because you can only do that to a grappled target, and you aren't grappled.
Damage you? Can't maintain agrapple and do damage as part of a maintain, if you aren't being grappled.

Now, the silly part is, can the grappler maintain his grapple, and do any of the maintain stuff to the cleric who has the condition? And how do you determine what the DC is for that?

Would he have to let go of the now-immune former grapplee, which would, presumably, also end the effect on the Cleric, and move to the Cleric to start a new grapple?

I think the ability is not well written, and needs serious errata before someone suffers a head injury form trying to figure out these corner cases...

Just going to hop back in for a second. The grappled condition is not a perquisite for grappling, rather it's a consequence of it. There are abilities in pathfinder (white haired witch's hair) that allow you to grapple creatures without gaining the grappling condition yourself. If this ability did let you take the grappled condition it would merely allow them to grapple without those downsides.


redward wrote:

This is definitely one of those things where you need to set time aside at the beginning to make your case and live with whatever the GM rules.

Regardless of where you land on the mechanics, a player coming to a table with this in mind and not clearing it with the GM beforehand is a problem.

This seems like the most reasonable solution to the problem, I'd still like official clarification from someone but the thread is kind of just repeating the same arguments so it's unlikely.


Spoiler:
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Binding Ties (Su): As a standard action, you can touch an ally and remove one condition affecting the ally by transferring it to yourself. This transfer lasts a number of rounds equal to your cleric level, but you can end it as a free action on your turn. At the end of this effect, the condition reverts to the original creature, unless it has ended or is removed by another effect. While this power is in use, the target is immune to the transferred condition. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

Every GM I have talked to has had something different to say about this ability but the general consensus is that RAW it's too strong for a first level ability. From a PFS standpoint how does this ability work and does it work for every condition? (Dead, grappled, flat-footed, incorporeal, etc)


Theres one question that I've been mulling over for a couple days now. I've been thinking about the position of Asmodeus in the whole dynamic of good vs evil. Whats mostly been in the back of my mind are the Hellknights, a Lawful Evil organization.

The Hellknights, who model themselves after the armies of the nine hells are one of the most effective (if brutal) police forces in the inner sea region, they throw down no matter the threat but still apply the law evenly to the mortal races no matter their alignment. Which is more than can be said for a number of paladins I've played with who use Detect Evil as a writ of execution.

How does Asmodeus see himself in the grand scheme of things? Is he really the prince of lies trying to claim all the realms for himself? Is he the Final Judge and Jury, holding the threat of his Devil Hordes above the heads of the other gods should they decide to cross the line? Or is he something else entirely?


If you can only make one Attack in a round, can you still decide to use a full round action to make the attack gaining the benefits of say the Shield of Swings feat or the Defensive Parry ability of the Aldori Swordlord fighter archetype?

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Thats exactly what I was looking for, thanks guys.

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I have GM credit for Rivalry's End that I was about to apply to a character when I read the boon a little more closely.

You cannot benefit from both this boon and the Triumph of the Lantern Lodge boon.

Does this mean no single character can benefit from the same boon? Or does it mean that you can never have both boons on any of your characters?


A paladin has a large number of spells with a cast time of Immediate Action, this is pretty cool but when they cast these kinds of spells they can't heal themselves with lay on hands. Can a paladin use a Standard Action to heal themselves instead of a swift action?

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When playing a Pregen Caster that prepares spells such as Ezren and Kyra can you change their prepared spells or are you locked into their prepared spells?

Edit: Mind you I'm not asking to swap out spells known or anything like that. Just preparing spells that the characters already have access to, like those from Ezren's spellbook or from the Cleric List for Kyra.


When charging while Mounted with a Reach Weapon such as a lance does the mount stop when you make your attack at the required 1 square away?


When your movement is halved or costs double (But you are not under the effects of difficult terrain), are you unable to take a 5-ft step?


Grease:
PRD Link

A grease spell covers a solid surface with a layer of slippery grease. Any creature in the area when the spell is cast must make a successful Reflex save or fall. A creature can walk within or through the area of grease at half normal speed with a DC 10 Acrobatics check. Failure means it can't move that round (and must then make a Reflex save or fall), while failure by 5 or more means it falls (see the Acrobatics skill for details). Creatures that do not move on their turn do not need to make this check and are not considered flat-footed.

The spell can also be used to create a greasy coating on an item. Material objects not in use are always affected by this spell, while an object wielded or employed by a creature requires its bearer to make a Reflex saving throw to avoid the effect. If the initial saving throw fails, the creature immediately drops the item. A saving throw must be made in each round that the creature attempts to pick up or use the greased item. A creature wearing greased armor or clothing gains a +10 circumstance bonus on Escape Artist checks and combat maneuver checks made to escape a grapple, and to their CMD to avoid being grappled.

Can a creature take a 5-foot step within the area of a grease spell? I believe it can and heres why I think so.

Very often I've heard that because of the sentence "A creature can walk within or through the area of grease at half normal speed with a DC 10 Acrobatics check" That means that the Grease is difficult terrain and therefore you can't 5-ft step. It doesn't say that grease is difficult terrain, as it does in Web, Shifting Sand and Ice Storm. Furthermore walk speed has absolutely nothing to do with your 5-ft step, creatures with movement speeds of both 100 and 10 have the same 5-ft step distance.


Solid Gold Lawn Gnomes


Thanks, never realized that the action defaulted to standard. Strange that they say that unless otherwise noted a domain power uses a standard action but then have domain powers (like fire or luck) that specificilly say they use standard actions.


Pupsocket wrote:
No, Standard Action. And yes, plenty of domain powers are terrible because of that.

Is there a link to relevant FAQ or is that just a common sense ruling?


When an action type isn't listed for a domain's power is it assumed to be a free action? The Action of the power it replaces? Or are these just errors.

Examples:

Souls Subdomain
Touch the Spirit World (Su): With a touch, you can empower a weapon to affect incorporeal creatures. The weapon touched deals half damage to incorporeal creatures, or full damage if it is a magic weapon. This benefit lasts for a number of rounds equal to your cleric level. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

Defense Subdomain
Deflection Aura (Su): Once each day, you can emit a 20-foot aura for a number of rounds equal to your cleric level. Allies within the aura gain a +2 deflection bonus to AC and combat maneuver defense.


Can Summon Minor Monster summon swarms?

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This spell functions as summon monster I, except you can summon 1d3 Tiny or smaller animals, such as bats, lizards, monkeys, rats, ravens, toads, or weasels. The summoned animals must all be the same type of creature. As with animals summoned with summon monster I, you may apply one alignment-appropriate template to these animals.

The only limiting factor in this spell is that all creatures summoned by this spell must be tiny or smaller, animals, and the same creature.

A Venomous Snake Swarm meets all of these requirements.


With the Golarion setting did you guys set out with the goal of creating real world analogs with the nations or is it something that just happened naturally?


This question may have (and probably has) been asked before but I can't find any definitive responses that clearly define how the different Aid Another traits and feats interact with one another.

Question 1

For things that actually change the bonus granted by aid another such as the Helpful trait and Improved Aid class feature, do they stack or would they overlap?

From a strict reading I would probably say they wouldn't but I'm not sure.

Question 2

How would something like the Helpful trait that actually changes the bonus from +2 to +4 interact with the Swift Aid feat which already changes the bonus from +2 to +1? Does it overlap again? Are you granting +3 instead?


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The whole book is really meh. The classes are all pretty balanced but there is nothing interesting about them, while it was mentioned that they were going to be mash-ups of old classes, I thought they were going to do what paizo has done in the past and put a special twist on them, not just slap together class features from different classes and call it done.


Most likely it would be a light with a caster level for the effect being the Aasimar's character level.


What product is being used for the map. Those 3-D Walls are pretty cool.


I get that, and I always pictured staff-like wand being used to save gold but if you make the item, does it have a higher DC?


I know that off the shelf magic items are assumed created at the minimum requirements and so the DC's are kinda low. Can you create an item at a higher DC? Say my wizard makes a wand of lightning bolt, does the DC NEED to be 14 or do I add my int/feats?


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

Yea, well thanks for posting guys.


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

I guess. Only the two of you have been responding.


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

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Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10
Charon Warblade wrote:

Charon motions back to Maeltheron and mouths a few words secretly. Charon will look around too to see what people look like. (Are they from this area? Does there seem to be someone overseeing things?)

bluff(secret message): 1d20 + 7
"We need to figure out what's going on. I don't like the idea of the ball reaching the top."

Perception: 1d20 + 6
Knowledge(Local): 1d20 + 5

Yes, it seems that every so often you see These cowled figures. The more you watch these people assembling this structure the more tells you begin to observe, you see the lurching gaits of the workers and it strikes you as familiar, these are most likely undead.


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

Moving in closer along the periphery of the valley the both of you come into view of this strange ramshackle building. As you get closer you recognize several people carrying up pieces of the building with a number of builders near the exposed top of it assembling those pieces. Most of the external structure appears to be thrown together but as you gain a better vantage you see that it's actually just a ramshackle shell being built around a sturdy frame that peeks out about ten feet beyond the slowly crawling outer wall. As you approach from the south you see the rear end of the structure where it seems a crane is hauling what looks like a very large shiny red circle to the top.

Tower

Knowledge Arcana DC 25:
That thing being hauled to the top of the tower seems to be a focus of some kind. Though focuses are not unique to any one school of magic oftentimes the color red is associated with either evocation or transmutation. Most believe this to be a purely symbolic value though a handful in the magic community believe those colors actually facilitate specific types of magic.


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

Okay so we've kind of been stuck in a rut for a while so I'm going to just skip ahead. After some time tromping through the forest you come to a crossroads, those more familiar recognize tracks going down the right path but not the left. Taking that right path it leads down into a shallow valley a stones throw from the river. At the midsection of this valley sits a village that as you look closer to it's center you begin to see houses and buildings that seem to have been canabalized. In the center of this village stands a structure that has to be at least sixty feet tall and still growing taller, a ramshackle affair of wood, stone, and earth. Figures seem to be walking in and out in neat little lines

Map


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

Sorry for the week's absence. I should have mentioned it in the OOC but I was doing stuff for Aethercon over the weekend.

Okay, so you leave then? There are two routes of egress, the stony path that leads back to the swamp or another dirt road that continues past the church into the woods at the base of the small hill.

Badly Drawn Map


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

***AS DOLELAN***

Dolelan paces, eyes on his notebook he speaks while continuing to write in his little notebook.

"As far as I can tell there seems to be no indication that these people here are dangerous, theoretically intelligent undead could follow trends similar to those of orcs, goblins, and other of the more notorious races in that every so often there are those who do not deal in wanton destruction.

Unfortunately signs here point to the worship of what we consider an evil deity, though that also could be debated. Perhaps they are merely acting in interests in direct opposition to ours, from the position of the livestock we slaughter to put food on our tables we would seem like quite the vicious and barbaric civilization.

Sorry, back to the matter at hand. The quick and easy answer is no, they do not seem violent and would probably not cause us trouble in the near future. Acting violently against them would most likely do nothing more than raise their ire, there are far too many of them to be completely sure that they would be all killed by anything short of direct action."


Cosmo wrote:

Your order has been canceled.

thanks,
cos

Thanks, sorry for the trouble.


Can I cancel this order please?


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

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Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

Okay then, waiting on Dolelan's response I guess. Also, anyone having problems getting updates? My RSS feeds just started working again but the paizo campaign tracker said that there were no new updates.


Roshan wrote:

Dear James Jacobs,

I've run into a problem with several ranger archetypes and how they interact with class features that the archetypes don't replace but can no longer function. This thread was posted back in May but it hasn't seen any official response. Could you please clarify if it was intended that certain class features like Freebooter's Bane that replaces Favored Enemy but keeps Quarry or the Infiltrator's Adaptation that replaces Favored Terrain but keeps Camouflage were intentional or just errors?

Thanks,
Roshan

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Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

So tell me, what are you doing. Concise description of what the group is doing so we can move on.


Dear James Jacobs,

I've run into a problem with several ranger archetypes and how they interact with class features that the archetypes don't replace but can no longer function. This thread was posted back in May but it hasn't seen any official response. Could you please clarify if it was intended that certain class features like Freebooter's Bane that replaces Favored Enemy but keeps Quarry or the Infiltrator's Adaptation that replaces Favored Terrain but keeps Camouflage were intentional or just errors?

Thanks,
Roshan


Bump.


Dear James Jacobs,

Does the Feral Speech Witch Hex have any duration or limitations other than the type of animal you are speaking to or was it ever intended to have a duration or limitation?

Thanks,
Roshan

PRD Link

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Feral Speech (Su): This hex grants the witch the ability to speak with and understand the response of any animal as if using speak with animals, though each time she uses the hex, she must decide to communicate with either amphibians, birds, fish, mammals, or reptiles, and can only speak to and understand animals of that type. The witch can make herself understood as far as her voice carries. This hex does not predispose any animal so addressed toward the witch in any way. At 12th level, the witch can use this hex to communicate with vermin.


What spell? there is no spell, it's a supernatural ability for petes sake. Do ninja abilities emulate spells? do monks?


I know this is probably a no brainer but does the feral speech witch hex have a duration, time limit, or daily limit of any kind?

PRD Link

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Feral Speech (Su): This hex grants the witch the ability to speak with and understand the response of any animal as if using speak with animals, though each time she uses the hex, she must decide to communicate with either amphibians, birds, fish, mammals, or reptiles, and can only speak to and understand animals of that type. The witch can make herself understood as far as her voice carries. This hex does not predispose any animal so addressed toward the witch in any way. At 12th level, the witch can use this hex to communicate with vermin.


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

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Rikka Rask wrote:
I've got no idea if Ariella dropped.

Certainly seems that way.

Dolelan Callennan wrote:
To move things forward, I plan on having Dolelan re-enter the church via the steeple and take a look around, then (depending on what we discover) attempt to make contact with the congregation.

What do you do exactly?


1 person marked this as FAQ candidate.

Spell Text:
Summon Minor Monster

This spell functions as summon monster I, except you can summon 1d3 Tiny or smaller animals, such as bats, lizards, monkeys, rats, ravens, toads, or weasels. The summoned animals must all be the same type of creature. As with animals summoned with summon monster I, you may apply one alignment-appropriate template to these animals.

Summon Monster

This spell summons an extraplanar creature (typically an outsider, elemental, or magical beast native to another plane). It appears where you designate and acts immediately, on your turn. It attacks your opponents to the best of its ability. If you can communicate with the creature, you can direct it not to attack, to attack particular enemies, or to perform other actions. The spell conjures one of the creatures from the 1st Level list on Table 10–1. You choose which kind of creature to summon, and you can choose a different one each time you cast the spell.

A summoned monster cannot summon or otherwise conjure another creature, nor can it use any teleportation or planar travel abilities. Creatures cannot be summoned into an environment that cannot support them. Creatures summoned using this spell cannot use spells or spell-like abilities that duplicate spells with expensive material components (such as wish).

When you use a summoning spell to summon a creature with an alignment or elemental subtype, it is a spell of that type. Creatures on Table 10–1 marked with an “*” are summoned with the celestial template, if you are good, and the fiendish template, if you are evil. If you are neutral, you may choose which template to apply to the creature. Creatures marked with an “*” always have an alignment that matches yours, regardless of their usual alignment. Summoning these creatures makes the summoning spell's type match your alignment.

I tried to use summon minor monster to summon 1d3 bats and have them use aid another. I'm a witch with the Feral Speech hex and can communicate, unfortunately the DM said that only trained animals can use tactics. So what exactly are the "Other Actions" you can command things to do if you speak their language?


Visually, is there any difference between silent image and any other illusion spell?


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

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Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10

Teriwyth narrows his eyes at the little creature.


Male Human Oracle of the Heavens 20/Horizon Walker 10
Dolelan Callennan wrote:
Dolelan is slightly nonplussed

Great word.

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