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Yeah, I don't run Pathfinder, don't ever plan on running Pathfinder, am willing to PLAY Pathfinder, but I will still get these cards simply because I would love to have a nicely done face to put with my unique NPC's, and probably even PC's upon occasion.

Yeah, I know. You look at my subscriptions and think, "He doesn't run Pathfinder and he subscribes to all that?!?"

Well, quality is quality, no matter what RPG you use to run it.


My pre order is in as well.


So anyone know what the average monthly cost will be for a "Paizo Charter Superscriber" after August? With a high and low estimate?

You know, Paizo could look into arranging their schedule to allow for a fixed average monthly "Paizo Charter Superscriber" subscription rate, with one year commitments. It would make it much easier for subscribers to budget their tithes, errr... Paizo subscriptions...


KaeYoss wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:

Come on, Paizo. Give us a little break. Make it worth our while to subscribe to this line and get the book for this shipping price. You're getting our commitment (and the associated help in extimating print run sizes) and get to sell the books at a much higher margin if we order directly from you as opposed to local stores or amazon sites or whatever. Don't you think we should get an incentive in the form of a discount on shipping?

It earns you goodwill points from customers and probably some money because it's got to be a better deal for you to sell directly, even after discounted shipping.

Nothing? Not even a comment?

Maybe get your orders to over $100 (US), so that Paizo will pay $10 of the shipping? Sounds like your close.


The_Minstrel_Wyrm wrote:

Okay... I read through all 140-some posts before mine... and I think I saw one poster ask this question, and I believe Gary answered (and others) but I just want to be sure, If I click on the RPG subscription it will automatically convert my preorders (of both the core rules and the bestiary) to the subscription? Do I have that right? (And will I get a "second" hit from Pazio to my bank card (insuring the funds are there) or since that part has already been done, it won't be repeated?) I'm not as concerned about a PDF here, I like them, they are handy (especially for handouts to be printed) I just don't want two core rule books and two bestiaries coming my way.

Sorry if that was long and rambly...

Thanks for any clarification provided.

Dean; the Minstrel_Wyrm

Yes, when I ordered the "subscription" my pre orders were converted. I also opted to have everything shipped at one time to save on shipping. Since before a few days ago I only subscribed to PF. I too am falling into the Paizo money trap.


Yep, they lovez usss.


Robert Miller 55 wrote:
fray wrote:

My pre-order is still there and no new subscriptions... :hmmm:

edit: Tried again but it isn't working for me...

Yeah, I guess its going to take a while to convert pre-orders.

Or you can go through the subscription order yourself and it will change things over.


fray wrote:

My pre-order is still there and no new subscriptions... :hmmm:

edit: Tried again but it isn't working for me...

Yeah, I guess its going to take a while to convert pre-orders.


Epic Meepo wrote:

I have two questions. (I think a remember seeing the answers in another thread, but it wasn't a thread dedicated specifically to PFRPG subscription questions, and I'm too lazy to track it down.)

1) What products other than the Core Rules, Bestiary, and GM Guide will be covered by the PFRPG subscription?

2) How large a discount off of cover prices will PFRPG subscribers receive, if any?

I imagine the discount will be what it is now, which isn't 30%.

Unfortunately Paizo has to watch how well they treat us, since they don't want to cut their own throats with retailers. Maybe they could get away with giving us a temporary "dedicated customer appreciation discount" at 30% for 30 to 60 days on the PFRPG, but to make it something like 30% permanently? I would be pleasantly shocked to see that happen.


Well, in my case, I can afford to buy another copy if I decide having one to get signatures in is that important to me. Signatures is the real reason I would like the book at GenCon, otherwise having it mailed to my home is the far more convenient option. Plus I want the PDF, since I do a LOT of on line gaming, and being able to copy/paste stuff if I ever play PF is a very nice convenience.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Robert Miller 55 wrote:

Holy!!! That is certainly one HEAVY book! $8.25 for shipping. I also presume we will have the "combine orders" option when it becomes a subscription?

Plus I would still like to know if I could pick up my copy at Gen Con, and get some signatures!

Yes to the first. As for the second, you can certainly buy a copy there and get it signed, but right no there's no way to for you to pick up a preorder or subscription copy at Gen Con. (We know folks want it, but it's really not easy to do.) If that changes, we'll let you know.

OK, Thanks Vic!


Vic Wertz wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Robert Miller 55 wrote:
Now if I pre order, and Paizo does offer a PDF deal later, I will be grandfathered in to such a deal, correct?
The way to get a free PDF is to subscribe to the RPG line. Subscriptions will be available later in the week. If you've preordered and you subscribe, we'll essentially convert your first preorder copy into your subscriber copy.

Yes....

Now will you be doing this for the Beastiary (which I've ordered) as well?

Yes. The subscription will include everything listed here that releases in August or later. So far, that's the Core Rulebook, the Bestiary, the GM Screen, and the GameMastery Guide.

Holy!!! That is certainly one HEAVY book! $8.25 for shipping. I also presume we will have the "combine orders" option when it becomes a subscription?

Plus I would still like to know if I could pick up my copy at Gen Con, and get some signatures!


OK, I have absolutely no intention of ever running PFRPG, but I think I'll buy this just for the art alone! Nice!


Its due in 2010, thats about 8 months form now, plenty of time to budget and save for it.


OK, I guess I will just wait to see what happens later this week, since I guess your saying that being a Pathfinder and Map subscriber isn't the same as being a "RPG subsciriber".


Yeah, despite being a DM/GM/etc... for over 25 years I think I may find this of interest as well, especially since I don't think I come anywhere near doing things as well as Paizo does them.


Now if I pre order, and Paizo does offer a PDF deal later, I will be grandfathered in to such a deal, correct?


Ross Byers wrote:
Robert Miller 55 wrote:
Edit: OK. I see how to combine shipping, but how do I make sure I do not get sent the Wizards Tower since it was already sent yesterday?

With the subscription in your cart, you should be able to choose to start with either the current product (Wizard's Tower) or the next product (Dungeon Flip Mat.)

If you choose the flip mat, you will not be sent another Wizard's tower.

Thanks! That worked!


I ordered the subscription, and it puts the wizard tower in there too, and that was mailed to me yesterday. Plus how do I make it combine shipping with my PF subscription?

Edit: OK. I see how to combine shipping, but how do I make sure I do not get sent the Wizards Tower since it was already sent yesterday?


Gene wrote:
Out of curiosity, for those that have a print copy of this, what kind of binding does it use?

The two staples type of binding, whatever that is called.


So has your company made commercial use yet? IE have you published any Paizo materials as a commercial venture yet? Once you have done that, then yes, you are right. You cannot use their license for free use.


Well, as for your coin issue, that is why I have been having 100 coins per pound for about 20 years.Its loosely based on a period of roman coins of similar size and weight. To make it easy I assume the silver and copper coins are actually bigger, so they all are 100 per pound. I generally try to ignore volume.


I just hang out on the map making websites and wait for people to use their Campaign Cartographer or other mapping program to do their versions of PF maps. They are usually 4 MB or smaller and work great in Maptools.

Maybe Paizo can officially sanction the work of such people until Paizo can do it themselves?

I also know I some how get a fair change in the size of maps, with still small file sizes, by simply importing from the PDF to GIMP 2, then take it to Maptools.


Just do what I do, go read and don't bother commenting. I mean people actually think they can tell how well a game plays without ever playing it. Reading it is all that is needed. Never mind how they only read it once, and then you have to wonder if they read every word, or every 10th word, or every 50th word.

The bad thing is that other people will listen to these "experts". I don't, and didn't. I actually played 4E for many weeks/months before I decided to rank it below GURPS and certainly not worth following any more. However, I can see why people would like it a lot. Lots of people like coffee, I think it tastes like dog doodoo. It all comes down to preferences in taste.

So the smart thing to do is ignore EVERYONES opinion and be original enough to form one of your own, by buying, reading, and playing with the RPG. Decide for yourself how much you like or dislike it.

Its what I do. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, it means I may take months or years before I get around to having time to trying out different RPG's, but that helps reduce my RPG buying to levels I can barely afford. Rather than having to go into debt (use my CC's) to buy them.

The only reason I even read those posts is to get clued in on problem areas for me to pay closer attention to. Usually I find the concerns totally unfounded and due to not fully comprehending the rule in question, which goes back to reading, rather than actually playing and using the rules, to see how they actually do work.

Anyways, don't worry about those people on ENWorld, or any board, too much, the smart ones will give PF a fair shake all on its own. They will either think its great, or its dog doodoo.


Whats the rule for our 15% subscriber discount and combining it with other offered discounts, like the brand new offer in the e-mail?


Congratulations Paizo! I am sure I will enjoy your hard work!


Keep your eyes open, I got it and several other key DL books for under $60, total, a couple of months ago. So be patient, and vigilant, and hopefully you will get as lucky too.


Prime Evil wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

Bless you all.

Thanks for sharing in the PDF Love!

I hope that the promotion went well for Paizo as well as the fans. In fact, I'm hoping that it's given the company a reason to stay in the PDF market for a looooong time...

I am hoping their 35% off sale would get them such a spike in sales that they do the sale on a regular basis. Not always, but maybe once every six months, or every April. So we fans can afford to catch up on what we can't afford to stay current with.


Vic Wertz wrote:
We carry their PDFs right here at paizo.

Excellent! Any way to have them show up when the main link from your advertising blurb is clicked? I only saw the core book and PDF for it.


That donor is one very good person. Kudos!

I wish everyone having hard times the best of luck. I had to cancel my PF subscription for nearly a year, and have yet to be able to afford to get the back issues. Thanks to the PDF sale, and some unexpected extra cash, I was able to get 5 that I wanted.


Lisa Stevens wrote:
Robert Miller 55 wrote:

Hah!

Unexpected events sent me some extra cash, so I am now happy!

Glad to hear that Robert!

-Lisa

Yep! I got 5 that I really wanted. Hopefully you guys will still be "slow" come May and I can get the other 3 or 4 I still want. Heck, I probably sat there for about 30 minutes agonizing over which ones to choose.


Hah!

Unexpected events sent me some extra cash, so I am now happy!


I agree that Paizo is awesome, but it would be convenient if they could make the discount automatic. I can only presume it is not an easy changing of code.


Looks like the powers that be don't want to respond.

I'll tell you what, I'll just hope you guys are a day or two "slow" about actually ending the sale and I'll plan on buying them on May 1 or 2.

Hopefully I'll end up happy.


Cosmo wrote:
Robert Miller 55 wrote:

Hey, I just want to confirm I didn't screw anything up. I ordered and DLed 2 PDF's yesterday, and during the process I opted to remove my PDF subscription for PF that has been in my cart for the last two months. Now according to my "subscriptions" I am still subscribed to Pathfinder, so having it in my cart was just some kind of unnecessary thing that was going on? Or does it need to be in my cart?

While your at it, could you ask the powers that be to read my thread in the website forum to extend the PDF sale a few days into May?

Thanks!

You do not need to have the subscription in your cart to be subscribed. The only way to cancel your subscription is to make an explicit request to Paizo Customer Service.

This is, in fact, a pretty common misconception. I have had to tell numerous people that having the subscription in their shopping cart is not a requirement to retain a subscription. In order to track down what it is that keeps leading people to this conclusion, could you tell me what made you think that? Did the subscription not leave your shopping cart when you purchased it? Has the subscription been in your cart since you transitioned from Dungeon? Any clues you could provide would be immensely helpful, since this is not a belief we want any subscribers to have.

I will make sure to point out your PDF thread to the relevant eyes.

thanks,
cos

I don't remember how the subscription even got into my cart. Maybe when I restarted it? All I know is that its been in there ever since I restarted, and I just assumed it needed to be in there because its an on going order.

I asked how to resubscribe, so if you told me to do something that put it in my cart to begin with, thats probably when I got it in my head it goes in my cart and stays there.


Hey, I just want to confirm I didn't screw anything up. I ordered and DLed 2 PDF's yesterday, and during the process I opted to remove my PDF subscription for PF that has been in my cart for the last two months. Now according to my "subscriptions" I am still subscribed to Pathfinder, so having it in my cart was just some kind of unnecessary thing that was going on? Or does it need to be in my cart?

While your at it, could you ask the powers that be to read my thread in the website forum to extend the PDF sale a few days into May?

Thanks!


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
I think what Robert Miller is saying, is that he wants me to get the Katapesh pdf next month on sale. I like Robert Miller.

I'm saying I would like all of the PDF's on sale. For at least 72 hours into May, a week would be better. I have only the PF PDF's and two of the map packs. So I would like to buy 10 or so PDF's to catch up a bit on things I haven't bought.


Andrew Turner wrote:

//open threadjack//

If you're on a fixed income, or with little expendable income, you can still use a credit card. Just pay off the balance each month. This is a quick way to improve your credit rating, as well.

//close threadjack//

I may have bought into that 20 or 30 years ago, but I know better now. Its best to just never use them.


Andrew Turner wrote:
Bagpuss wrote:
I buy everything on credit card -- from my child's daycare to my paizo subs, through weekly groceries and petrol -- and I've never paid interest, so far as I am aware. However, I do get 1% back on credit card purchases...
You're paying off the balance each month?

He may have a bank card similar to mine. Every time I use my bank card I get 1% back. Stuff adds up!


Yes, I have an ATM Debit/Credit card that pulls directly off of my checking account. So I do everything in cash, whenever possible. So buying PAizo PDF's may be a great deal, but it isn't great enough of a reason to pay interest on it.


IF its possible I would appreciate it if you guys could extend the sale past April. I am on a fixed income and have spent my "Discretionary" money for the month. So if you could wait until May 3rd, or later, to end it I would greatly appreciate it.

No I do not use CC's. If your on a fixed income and using CC's your begging for trouble, eventually. So I pay in cash only, using my bank card.


I just DLed it successfully. I then had a difficult time getting to the message boards. I had to sign out, get to the message boards, and then sign back in to post this response. Prior to that I kept getting a "The message boards are temporarily unavailable" notice.


Guess I'll have to try and DL it again, I tried earlier today and the link went no where. So assumed it wouldn't be available until Wed.


Malleus Aforethought wrote:
Robert Miller 55 wrote:
Malleus Aforethought wrote:
Isn't this move to halt PDF sales actually going to hurt their lawsuit? My recollection of U.S. copyright law (IANAL) is that in order to collect damages on copyright infringement, you have to demonstrate that the act in question negatively impacted your sales/income/insert some lawyerly term here. Or are they just going for the "moral" win here?
No, because the PDF pirating can also be argued to be hurting print sales too.

Even so, killing off a segment of revenue can't be helpful to their argument.

[EDIT: inadvertently switched identities...]

No, I don't think it is either, but they can definitely point to print sales, and they can also say all sales lost from discontinuing them (PDF sales) is also the fault of the pirates, and add the loss of sales to the law suite.


Malleus Aforethought wrote:
Isn't this move to halt PDF sales actually going to hurt their lawsuit? My recollection of U.S. copyright law (IANAL) is that in order to collect damages on copyright infringement, you have to demonstrate that the act in question negatively impacted your sales/income/insert some lawyerly term here. Or are they just going for the "moral" win here?

No, because the PDF pirating can also be argued to be hurting print sales too.


Molech wrote:

I got my 19 and 20 at the same time -- same package.

My question: is there no "Players' Guide" to this campaign? I didn't get one. If you did publish one please send me mine. If not, no big deal; I don't think the "Players' Guides" are very good and would not mind seeing them go away. Nonetheless, if there is one, I want mine.

Thanks.

-W. E. Ray

The players guide isn't available yet. The PDF won't even be DL able until Wed.


Many of the reasons is why old school D&D is designed the way it is. Not only could you only make items at high levels, but it also required a TON of xp's to get there. So it helped with "verisimilitude" because not only were items rare, but so were people who could make them. Including the PC's, because they would have to wait until 9th level to even be able to make something beyond scrolls and potions, and it took a very long time to earn the XP's to get to that point. Plus you still needed scrolls of enchant item and permanency to make the really powerful stuff, all of which the GM has total control over with availability.

So you could have tons of lower level NPC's running all over the place, but the higher levels, who have the power to actually make such items were not only rare in the world, but rare for players to ever achieve without putting in a LOT of time getting there.

I think its because Gary Gygax and the others realized it was playing the game that was fun, and that gaining levels quickly meant the game was over faster, and caused a break down in how rare magic items would be with people quickly earning those high levels which allow them to make the items. Allowing such items to be made at lower levels, combined with fast level acquisition, breaks this down even faster.

So if you really want to even begin to address this issue you need to adapt some solid old school game design and require high levels to make such items in the first place, and then require a LOT of XP's to even get there. Then realize its the playing that is fun, that winning the hard fought battles and winning the day is much more rewarding than gaining the next level.

I don't know about the rest of you, but my adrenaline rushes come from winning the fights, not gaining the level.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Robert Miller 55 wrote:

I have tried to DL PF 18 several times. The one with multiple chapter files. It DL's just fine, but when I extract it to the folder I want it in it tells me there is a file already there with the name, even though there wasn't until I tried to do the extraction, and I did delete it before each additional time I tried.

Then I hit "Try Again" several times, with no results.

However when I tried the version where it is all one file it worked fine.

That's a new one on me.

Have you tried extracting it to a different folder, or using a different unzipping utility?

Nope, but the one that worked just fine was extracted to the same file with the same utility as I tried to do the other file. I have a file/folder dedicated to my Paizo Pathfinders. So saving it to a different folder isn't something I want to do.


I have tried to DL PF 18 several times. The one with multiple chapter files. It DL's just fine, but when I extract it to the folder I want it in it tells me there is a file already there with the name, even though there wasn't until I tried to do the extraction, and I did delete it before each additional time I tried.

Then I hit "Try Again" several times, with no results.

However when I tried the version where it is all one file it worked fine.


It took 10 months, but I was finally able to restart my PF subscription. Hopefully it won't take you as long.

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