I have no idea why people are getting bent out of shape over the shape of the orc. If they're gorilla like, cool. If they're pig like, cool. If they're anything more interesting than grey/green humans with bad teeth, seems like an upgrade to me. People banging on about racial profiling or some such like that's actually a thing. An orc is an orc. It's a bestial, murderous monster for killing at lowish adventuring levels. It's not a human, and is not a commentary on humans. No need for connections where there are none.
Rangers really shouldn't have magic in the first place. It would be better if they just stripped the feature off them entirely rather than let them have whatever it would be called that you're proposing (the thing you're asking for is the exact opposite of what a spontaneous caster is). I'd prefer they not ever have access to spells through any means; feat, archetype, etc. It's always felt tacked on and is frankly a waste of design space. Rather than pushing the things that make a Ranger, like Traps, terrain use, Tactics, they instead burn page space writing Druid-lite spells that do the opposite.
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
When I play a PC or NPC dressed for combat, the character isn't dressed to emphasize or exaggerate their physical sexual characteristics. They are dressed to be competent and well-protected. They don't eschew their sexuality, but they damn well know that it's difficult to be sexy when you're maimed, dying, or a friggin' corpse. Dress appropriately for the job at hand seems a reasonable sound strategy.
That may be your approach, but my character, who's a front-line fighter (Swashbuckler, technically) and my definition of "the sexy male" fought through literal Hell wearing nothing but an albino Crocodile skin pimp coat, breeches, and some exceptionally fashionable boots, just so the devils could admire his awesome abs while he stabbed them, and it was glorious.
I'm sorry, but the majority of this thread has me confused.
There seems to be a lot of posts to the effect of, "Half Orcs are (typically) a product of rape, and that makes me uncomfortable, so we should get rid of them in favor of full orcs."
So, if I'm understanding correctly, the child of rape (who, like any other child, has no say in the circumstance of it's conception or upbringing) is objectionable, so you'd rather play as the rapist himself?
I wish for a cheap item that negates light sensitivity. There's already Smoked Goggles, which cost just 10gp and are non-magical gear. They make it so you get a +8 to saves versus Vision based attacks, and always count as averting your gaze. They impart a -4 to Perception and give everything a 20% miss chance. They are essentially sun glasses so dark you can barely see through them.
You're telling me they can make super dark glasses, but they can't make some much-less dark sun glasses? The only options for removing light sensitivity is through expensive magical eyewear, which I find to be ridiculous.
Just make some sun glasses, around the same price point as Smoked Goggles, that grant a bonus against light based hazards and attacks for races without light sensitivity, and get rid of the sensitivity for races that do, at the expense of while you're wearing them make it so you can't use either Dark or Low-light Vision. That seems reasonable for removing what is essentially an inherent -1 to Perception and Atk Rolls for certain races.
I happen to like my fantasy pulpy, tropey, and over the top. Chain mail bikini, "boob-plates", what-ever; they're all fine. Right along with the male armor that consists of loincloth, colossal shoulder pads, and sheer manliness (gigantically oversized compensatory weapon option).
If you don't personally go for that, you are certainly welcome to ban it at your own table. By all means, and more power to you, but lets not pretend censorship is ever a good thing. More facets receiving representation, rather than fewer, is always better. Lets have sensible, historically accurate chestguards, absolutely, but there's no reason there's not space for impractical nonsense beside it.
Ignore handringing by Martial characters. Critical failures NEED to count for meele & ranged attack rolls in Pathfinder 2E!
I think alignment is important. As a DM tool. There should not be a line on character sheets for Alignment. The players should never know their alignment, or anyone else's. It's best used as an ear-mark for the DM to present monsters and peoples in broad strokes of "X values Y, and will typically do Z to accomplish it."
I'm good with Static HP per level. My table has been moving more and more that way as the years progress.
We started with the basic "roll, take what you get." years ago. Moved on to, "Half+1" and currently are using "Get half, roll half" where if you're a d10 class you get d5+5 so you're getting at least half+1. Might as well just take that last step at this point and toss rolling entirely.
That's my thought too. After using "Race" for years, I'll allow a bit of cross-over during the transition period.
I can already see a scene with my PC's trying to chase a squad of Nimble Elves through wooded terrain. With such a large gap in movement capability, it really will feel like the Elves are ghosts. Hitting, running, and fading back through terrain while the Humans and Dwarves flail through the brush. I look forward to seeing how they deal with the situation.
Ya know, it's really annoying. I just get through telling my friends, "If it were Goblins, or no new Core races at all, I'd personally have picked no new Core races" but then of course my stupid brain has to start poking at me, "Hey. Hey. I know you juuuust finished saying a thing... but wouldn't this idea here be a fun character to play?" G&& d*~n it brain.
Jason Bulmahn wrote:
While I happen to be largely positive as to what's been shown so far, I almost wish you did keep it under wraps till release.
Having so many people clamoring about, "My napkin math/gut feeling (having been given only half of one single variable in the equation) show conclusively that old is better than new and new can never work." basically turns my forum reading experience into, "Is the post written by Paizo staff? No? Avert gaze to avoid no-save sanity damage."
Ya seem to be forgetting the purpose of the game. It's not to as accurately as possible simulate the real world in all matters. We don't get up from the table, pat each other on the back and say, "Man, we sure captured realism for a good four hours there."
The game's about creating exciting, awesome, and memorable moments. The dagger circle in the Glass Cannon Podcast was exactly that. It was funny, exciting, and most importantly, memorable. Yes, it's a bit cheesy, but it's great, and the game's better for the inclusion of oddities like this that allow players to come up with creative solutions to an impossible encounter.
Hey, look, more personal insults. Isn't it great how we can have opinions and be individuals?
You are in fact being hostile and childish. You know next to nothing about the new system, and yet are tossing around condemnations. Spewing hate is not an acceptable expression of opinion or individuality. Have a nice night.
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
Also stealing, because that idea is too fun.
Looks like a very easy case for a house rule to me.
Pax Rafkin wrote:
Is it normal for people to walk around in public with weapons as it is was on Golarion? Or the Old West? Or modern day Texas?
They mentioned that it's perfectly normal to wear your armor anywhere on Absalom Station, since your armor is also your environmental suit. That said, it's probably considered a tad gauche to carry a heavy railgun into the mayoral mansion.
You seem to be misunderstanding the history of the elf gates. Yes, they were made by the elves, but they made a LOT of these things. Hundreds, scattered all over every planet in the solar system, and they were absolutely awful at keeping track of them. For every one they still knew about and kept under proper guard, there were dozens of "lost" elf gates, just hanging out in random forests, deserts, caves, jungles, ruins; still functional and just waiting for someone to trip through.
Most elf gates weren't used by elves anymore even in Pathfinder times. They were in the hands of whatever race happened to have found them.
And that aside from the mentioned spaceship age before the Gap and the loss of Golarion.
Because of the Elf-gates, there was a lot of cross-pollination of Golarion species across the Pact worlds. You could already find lizardfolk adapted to Akiton, Drakes on Triaxus, Anhegs on the moons Liavara, even a population of Golarions on Aballon. Anything that could stumble through an unassuming looking archway could conceivably have made a foothold off planet.
Go nuts. They're all out there somewhere.
I think I know the exact npc you're speaking of. As it happened, when we got to that part of the game, the second she came on the scene my whole party basically all turned and looked at me like, "So, you're going to seduce our way through this one, right?"
It's become an on-going tradition with my group that I'm always the one pushed forward whenever there's an npc who's open to bedroom negotiations. I'm such a team player, I end up playing for both teams.
I still wonder if the emergence of the drift has affected the ease of access to other dimensions, such as making the drift a new transition boundary or barrier between the prime material and other planes. It would help explain why previous magical means for long range travel or communications are no longer as viable as they used to be.
I don't think anything changed, honestly. We're still pretty unclear on whether Triune made or simply discovered the means by which to access the Drift. There's a good possibility that it was there all along, an empty void that existed since the dawn of time. If so, the boundaries wouldn't change any when the Drift drives were gifted.
The other methods of travel (shadow drives, extra planar short cuts, and generation ships) that were used before the Drift drives are still possible, but they require a lot of things your average person isn't willing to put up with.
Shadow drives, which let you dip into the plane of Shadow and cover vast stretches of space quickly are still slower than Drift drives at getting around. They also pack all the unpleasant side effects of being in the plane of Shadows.
Jumping into the Ethereal plane, and zipping along using the power of your mind requires a few things that make it impractical for mass use as well; your speed is determined by your Intelligence and you also need to be able to get into the Ethereal plane in the first place. In other words, you need to be a powerful spell caster, preferably with an Int focus. Sure you don't age while you're in there, so travel time means nothing to you, but it's still passing outside. It's a trip that basically means you're leaving behind everyone you knew and loved forever, because they'll be dust by the time you get to your destination.
Generation ships are typically a last resort in any setting. Who really wants to spend the rest of your life in confined spaces with grandma?
There are things like Interplanetary teleport, but those have requirements that aren't always feasible eaither. You, again, need to be a high level spell caster, and you need to know where you're going. Not exactly ideal when you're just trying to go new places you've never been, nor is it terribly expedient when trying to set up a colony, when you're essentially limited to what you and a few people can carry in your arms at a time. It also means you're building a colony that will be highly isolated, with their fate resting on the mage capable of teleportation not getting eaten by strange alien fauna, or flora even.
Then enter the Drift drive; cheap, reliable, user friendly. Doesn't require years of training, can get anywhere quickly, can be hooked up to any size of ship you like, so you can haul massive amounts of cargo, no nasty shadow side effects, quick enough that you can always be home in time for Christmas-analog.
It's not a matter of the other methods no longer existing, or not working, it comes down to simple humanoid laziness. Drifting is fast, cheap, easy, and its side effects don't effect the primary user directly. Sure, once in a while, you tear off a chunk of Hell and have some angry imps gumming on the windshield, but your ship got attacked by weird stuff in the Shadow plane, and the Ethereal plane too, so you can't really even complain about it. Random encounters are just a part of travel.
Uret Jet wrote:
Not exactly. In the reveal stream, they mentioned that the nearest thing they had to mechanical FTL communication, was essentially strapping a message to a guided missile with a Drift drive and launching that in the direction of wherever it was you want the message to go. They receive it, and send a message back the same way. Hardly instant communication between planets, especially across the Vast when you'd be looking at 10d6 days roundtrip.
The spell Sending, if it hasn't been given a planetary range in Starfinder, is still probably your best way of getting communication across the Galaxy.
Do creatures still have immunity to energy types? It sucks playing a fire kineticist fighting devils for example. The holy fusion on a laser cannon isn't going to help at all when fighting devils if they still have immunity.
They've mentioned that the Holy fusion is nothing like the Pathfinder enchantment, so it's entirely possible that it turns off their immunity and/or DR, this time around.
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
"You assume they work the same, even after being repeatedly told, over and over, on a wide variety of broad and narrow subjects, 'No, that doesn't work the same as it did.'"
At this point, it seems a safer bet to believe, "If I recognize a name, it probably doesn't work the same way it used to."
Mark Seifter wrote:
Ah, Hey there, Slumber Hex. Yeah, did you hear? Mark Seifter was talking about you.
You'll be happy to hear that a lot of your concerns have been addressed.
While feats with other feats as prerequisites still exist, they trees are much shorter, with a lot of the feat-taxes removed.
There is no Big 6 anymore. They've specifically pulled away from items and feats that give flat +X to stats, and while you can enchant, upgrade, cybernetically enhance, and tweak your gear, body, and armor all day long, you can only wear two magic items (things like Ring of Freedom of Movement, or Cloak of the Gargoyle. You can carry as many potions, spell gems, or wands as you like, though.)
Mark was pretty vague on automatic power-scaling of low level spells, but he mentioned that they'd specifically tried to not let low level spells scale into the ridiculousness that Pathfinder ones did quite often. Instead mentioning that spells are at their most powerful when you first get them.
So, essentially what you're saying, is that Sarenrae is Papyrus. Nyeh heh heh. I knew she was a cool dude.
You underestimate how powerful a 1 level dip into soldier is, as it lets you get Heavy Weapons specialization as early as 3rd level. Normally any other class would need to go Longarm Proficiency > Longarm Specialization > Heavy Weapons Proficiency > Heavy Weapon Specialization as feats, which would take till 7th level and use up all their feats. By getting Heavy Weapons Proficiency from the dip, they skip all those steps except for the last, and can just spend one feat to nab Heavy Weapons Specialization.
You also get Heavy Armor, and there's no spell failure chance in SF, so your Technomancer can totally wander around in the heaviest armor they're proficient with. As an aside, though, Heavy Weapons have a strength requirement to free fire. If you don't have high enough strength, you need to mount them on a tripod, so most casters would likely be better off just stopping at long arms as their damage option, unless they want to add Strength to their build.
Jimbles the Mediocre wrote:
If I remember correctly, in one of the preview streams, a technomancer was able to "overcharge" a weapon (a small arm, IIRC) and effectively transform it into a grenade that someone held on to for later. I vaguely remember that there are some other things overcharge can do, but I'm not super-sure about that.
The grenade-frome-extra-gun trick is actually a Mechanic trick. They can apparently throw them at people, or set them up as proximity/trip wire explosives. The Technomancer in that group was playing really boringly, and never did anything besides pew-pew magic missiles each round, but Technomancers can overcharge guns, making them do extra damage for a round. I've heard from people who did get to sit down with the class, that sometimes they'd just stand behind a corner and keep tapping the Soldier to turn them into an engine of death.
It's good to see that, even thousands of years in the future, the Caster is still standing behind his loyal BSF.
AND the AoO is triggered AFTER casting
No, the Melee AoO is triggered before the cast, and if you hit, there is no concentration check. They automatically lose the spell.
However, if you Ready an Action to shoot someone if they cast, that happens after the cast.
They wanted to reward the Melee fighter for getting up in the caster's face without utterly invalidating casters by letting every ranged character (everyone who's not the Melee fighter) keep any caster they encounter permanently locked down and essentially helpless.
Here's my head cannon.
One day, Cayden and Torag come to the decision that they're going to have the ultimate drinking competition between the two of them. Other gods of an agreeable nature join in as the competition turns into the most roaring divine house party to ever happen in the history of the cosmos. Gods and Goddesses get so absolutely wasted that it bleeds out into the various layers of the cosmos, causing galaxy wide brain damage in all sentient races, resulting in the Gap.
The various Divines stumble to their feet after uncounted years of partying later gripping heads throbbing with god-level hangovers. Besmara's nursing a cup of coffee while wearing half of someone else's Divinity. To this very day Cayden is passed out in Shellyn's flower bed while the Goddess herself is trying dejectedly to put some semblance of her pretty home back together. Those stains aren't coming out anytime soon, darling.
In the spirit of, "Dude, where's my car?" and "The Hangover", Torag and Golarion are still missing entirely. Nobody has any clue where those two ended up.
No, no. I mean that exactly as I said it. I wholeheartedly believe creators should be allowed the freedom to deceive their audience.
I do not believe James Sutter did that in the case of the Lashunta. As he himself said, this is clearly a case of a creator looking back on past work and saying, "I can do that better." But I still enjoy when creative types are allowed to be creative without being shackled by what they've already established.
I personally love it when authors tell me, "Hey, remember that thing I told you was true, and it's held true all this time, and shaped your view? Yeah, well... I was lying to you. It's not that at all. This is what's actually true*."
* I reserve the right to at any point reveal that this wasn't true, either.
A world I know every truth and detail about, a world with no more surprises, is a dead world to me.
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Do people have an actual idea, even vaguely, how long the Gap went on? Like, are we talking days, years, centuries? That's a question I haven't seen answered, if there is one.
A fair point. I still would like to try out this crazy die based initiative rule, just because it looks neat. It may fail. It may explode catastrophically, but that's half the fun of testing really out-there systems. If it doesn't work out, you can fall back to the tried and true.
That doesn't solve the problem of "everyone will build Dex" initiative creep of a gun heavy game.