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That's excellent news! Thanks for the update. :)

The layout will be alphabetical. That's the easiest way to find monsters in there. If we organize things by type or CR, then you have to remember TWO things about a monster to find it in the book. Better to just have to remember its name and then understand the order the letters go in.

We'll probably still have an index or chart in there somewhere that breaks out monsters by CR and by type, though.

A good example of this is the Bestiary of Krynn published by Margaret Weis Productions (then Sovereign Press) for the Dragonlance setting. The book was divided into thematic sections. It did make it a bit harder to find the monsters. When Margaret Weis Productions later published Bestiary of Krynn Revised (with errata and a few new monsters), they ordered the monsters alphabetically and that worked much better.

Isn't that a simple matter of you, as the DM, giving the creatures you want to include in your Pathfinder game a home in Golarion? Paizo may not be able to include them in any products they publish but that doesn't stop us from using the monsters, does it?

Congrats guys! Always good to see new talent get a shot at game design. :)

I really hate to sound impatient as I know you guys have more important stuff to do than a fan site kit or fan site policy. But let's face it, I AM impatient. :D

Is there a chance we'll get an update on this in the near future? I've been holding off creating graphics for my fan site, hoping to see something official on the matter. After all, there's no use in creating cool graphics if I can't use it.

Anyway, just wanted to see if there's an update coming any time soon. I understand if it's not a high priority for you guys but I'm sure there are a few designers out there who'd be interested in knowing what they can and cannot do.

*jaw drops to floor* This should be good! A book about my favorite outsiders. Yum!

Normally the monsters mentioned in the blurb on the product page all fall under the no-way-in-hell-am-I-including-this-in-my-game category but having read Classic Monsters Revisited, I'm actually pretty excited about this book. Should be interesting to see what goodies the folks at Paizo can come up with.

Shiny! Excellent birthday present for me! I just love giving myself birthday presents.

Okay, that looks sweet! Sweet! SWEEEEEEET! Nice.

It's been said in a few places that you get to pick which book you start with either the current book or the next book. It shows up in the Checkout Process.

D'oh! That's right. I had the same option when I recently signed up for the Pathfinder Modules subscription.

I'm pretty sure that subscriptions always start with the next book in the production schedule, meaning that if you subscribe now, your first Pathfinder Chronicles book will be Gods and Magic. If you want to get Pathfinder Chronicles books published prior to you signing up for a subscription, you'll have to order them yourself just as you would any other product in the store. At least that's how I think it works.

I own Keep on the Shadowfell and Thunderspire Labyrinth and to be honest, both adventures are incredibly dull. They're good adventures if you want to test the D&D 4e rules but other than that, bleh! The biggest problem I have with them is the lack of roleplaying potential. An adventure doesn't have to have a two-page Adventure Background section to be a good adventure but it does need an interesting bunch of NPCs and locations the heroes can interact with. In my opinion, Keep on the Shadowfell and Thunderspire Labyrinth have none of that.

Personally I disagree with the whole "if the PCs will never find out..." notion. I like adventures with a lot of background material and I often use the background stuff to create additional encounters that match the general feel of the adventure. The statement made by the guys over at Wizards of the Coast really just shows me that I made the right decision when I decided not to purchase any gaming products published by Wizards of the Coast in the future.

While we're on the topic of Dragonlance conversions, Tauren Kai-Jere has written an excellent article about using Pathfinder RPG dwarves in the Dragonlance setting. You can find it HERE.

Are you honestly saying that the opinions of these people--these people who have playtested 3.5--are worth more than my ability to provide a mathematical analysis conclusively demonstrating that 3.5 clerics, wizards, and druids dominate the game while fighters sit on the bench and cry?

As I read the original post, that's not what Vic said at all. What he said was that at this time in the process, they are focusing on actual playtesting of the Beta rules. Playtesting doesn't necessarily mean sitting down at a table and running through a random published or homebrew adventure using the Beta rules. It could also mean sitting down at a table, coming up with some theories about what does and doesn't work (said theories could be based on math) and then putting those theories to the test by rolling some dice using encounters designed specifically for the purpose of testing those theories. I don't think it's any different from various fields of science where theory involves a heavy dose of math and those theories are then put to the test in laboratories and what have you.

So am I to understand that you feel that your skills at mathematical analysis are superior to those actually playtesting the game? If so, I find that extremely arrogant. You don't know who'll be sitting around those gaming tables. I'm sure you're not the only gamer out there who's concerned about the math in all this. Give the playtesters a break here and trust that they'll playtest the game using all the resources available to them, including mathematical skills. And could it be that Paizo have the theoretical aspect in mind? This book is still a year away and far from finished.

Personally I'm glad that the finished product I'll be buying next August has been playtested by fellow gamers and that Paizo has opened this up to public playtesting. Furthermore, I trust that Paizo is more than capable of sorting through the playtest feedback and ultimately make decisions based on that feedback mixed with their own theories and common sense.

Thanks for the link. This raises the question however. Is the Dragonlance Nexus, as a fan sight not doing 4e? I guess I just assumed they did, since the 3e "offical" books came out I really have been to that sight, forgot all about it to tell the truth. Or as a fan sight are they trying to please and support every edition of the game.

The Dragonlance Nexus supports Dragonlance gaming in general, not a specific version of Dungeons & Dragons. We have material for AD&D, D&D 3e, D&D 4e, Pathfinder RPG, SAGA, True20, C&C, Dogs in the Vineyard, etc. etc., and we will continue to post everything the Dragonlance fans submit to us. Our goal is provide an online home for all Dragonlance gamers where you can find a ton of resources for your games and where you can discuss Dragonlance gaming.

As for the article you found, Clive Squire really did an amazing job, I think. The mystic and sorcerer classes have been a topic of great debate ever since the Dragonlance Campaign Setting came out. A lot of people didn't feel that the two classes (and by extension, the fluff) had the same feel they originally had in the SAGA days and I think that Clive managed to bring that back into the classes with his article.

As for Pathfinder RPG in general, a lot of Dragonlance fans are looking at Pathfinder RPG with a lot of optimism, me included. I really like D&D 4e but for various reasons I'm considering sticking with D&D 3.5/Pathfinder RPG.

I play in a weekly Dark Heresy game in which I play a Guardsman character. I really like the system. I've recently purchased a bunch of Warhammer 40,000 novels and I can't wait to read those and get some more information about the setting itself. So far, playing Dark Heresy is great fun.

I'm a Dragonlance fanboy so naturally that's my favorite D&D setting. I've played in other campaign settings but Dragonlance is by far the campaign setting in which I've had the most fun adventures.

Second on the list is Forgotten Realms. I've spent most of my 3.x days adventuring in the Realms and it's been one hell of a ride.

See, now my evil twin's hoping you'll roll a 1 on your Craft (book) check just so he can kick you in the shins. Repeatedly.

I'm a sucker for dragons and I particularly like the way dragons are handled in the Dragonlance setting. I hope, and trust, that the folks at Paizo can conjure something similar for the Pathfinder Chronicles setting. By that I mean making the dragons a part of the setting itself rather than just huge XP awards.

Very nice! I'll definitely pick this one up. I wonder if Paizo's take would work in Dragonlance.

You are such a Dragonlance geek! :p

To me, Pathfinder means damn good storytelling and an immense passion for the products they create and the setting they're sharing with their customers. It started for me with the adventure paths in Dungeon Magazine and it's carried on into the Pathfinder Chronicles setting. The good people at Paizo are the best in the business when it comes to good roleplaying.

I just hope she doesn't seem too Osirion-based. I mean, I hope it is written in such a way that one can easily envision Andoran followers, Varisian followers, etc. So far all we've seen is Kyra, and she seems pretty much like she's from Osirion...

Well, I personally think a god's appearance, demeanor, importance, and even the name of a deity varies from region to region. Even if she is primarily worshipped in Osirion and/or Qadira and that general region, I don't see how people in Varisia can't worship her as well. The religious symbolism and the nature of people's worship might change a bit to reflect their culture but that doesn't mean that those from Varisia, the elves of Kyonin, or even the vikings of the north can't worship Orision, or at least an aspect of the deity.

That's my take on things anyway.

I really can't understand this AP. It don't seem to have a single narrative, and I can't understand the PC's motivation to contoniue playing it. whey would they want to risk themselves to sell a map?

You base your doubts on the small blurb they've posted on the product page? You do realize they're teasers, right? I'm sure Paizo will show the way in the final product. They haven't failed us so far.

As I'm going to be writing a lot of adventures in the future, mostly for Dragonlance but also some for Pathfinder, this book should be very helpful to me. It's always good to learn some tricks from the best.

Naysayers are always a very loud croud. It's been that way ever since the first forums and chatrooms were started. It doesn't really reflect on the general attitude toward a certain element (be it Pathfidner, D&D 4e, or whatever else people are unhappy with). Should the negativity be ignored? No, of course not, and I'm pretty sure the good people at Paizo take even the negative response to their products seriously. It's just that a few threads on a few different forums really aren't indicative of a decrease in the popularity or the usefulness of Paizo products.

Oh, and this whole deal with Wayne Reynolds is just stupid. He's a fantasy artist (and a very talented one) and he takes the jobs he's offered. The man has to eat just like the rest of us. Personally I'm excited to see his artwork of many of the books I buy.

Hullo!

I've recently started constructing a fansite for the pathfinder franchise. Heavily inspired by the phenomenal Dragonlance Nexus, the goal of this site, which I've tentatively named Pathstrider, is to become a home for fans of the Pathfinder setting and a place where we can all share articles, adventures, game mechanics, etc. etc. etc. with each other.

The site is still in its infancy and I've barely started on design. This is where you guys come in. Naturally, the site is going to contain news about the Pathfinder setting and, hopefully, about the Pathfinder community. It'll also feature articles, game mechanics, adventures, etc. But what else would you like to see on a Pathfinder fansite? How would you like to see the gaming section set up?

The purpose of the site is to help the Pathfinder community grow and to provide players and DMs alike with tons of material to use in their games. Naturally, I can't do this alone. I have a Real Life and also contribute to the Dragonlance community. Therefore, this site is going to rely heavily on user participation. I'll write stuff but I'm hoping that it'll be a community project, once the site goes live.

Anyway, if you have any ideas about design, layout, functionality, features, etc. etc. etc., please let me know!

Thanks!

Ravenmantle