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The thrush can only raise skill ranks by its masters spending. so if the master puts 10 ranks into perception, the thrush has 10 ranks in perception also and thus should get the improved bonus for skill focus at that point.

Rathendar wrote:

At 8th level, a paladin is immune to charm spells and spell-like abilities.

At 17th level, a paladin gains DR 5/evil and immunity to compulsion spells and spell-like abilities.

So no, supernatural charms and compulsions would not work at all. Immunity doesn't care weather its spell, spell like ability, supernatural, or extraordinary.

As Talynonyx pointed out, that is wrong. Spells and Spell-like abilities are specific game terms. They do not apply to supernatural abilities.

Compare the wording of those abilities to the elves immunities. Elves are immune to all sleep effects, so that is immunity to any type of sleep power whether it is spell, spell-like, supernatural, or extraordinary. The paladins immunities don't say "effect", they say "spell or spell-like ability".

yeah, i realised that with his post. thanks for saying it again.

At 8th level, a paladin is immune to charm spells and spell-like abilities.

At 17th level, a paladin gains DR 5/evil and immunity to compulsion spells and spell-like abilities.

So no, supernatural charms and compulsions would not work at all. Immunity doesn't care weather its spell, spell like ability, supernatural, or extraordinary.

Pg 398 Core:

Adding NPCs: Creatures whose Hit Dice are solely a
factor of their class levels and not a feature of their race,
such as all of the PC races detailed in Chapter 2, are
factored into combats a little differently than normal
monsters or monsters with class levels. A creature that
possesses class levels, but does not have any racial Hit
Dice, is factored in as a creature with a CR equal to its class
levels –1.

So if you had 1 Human Level 10 fighter (APL 10), encounter 1 Human Level 10 fighter (CR9), this would be considered an easy encounter?

No, it means that if you had a party of 4 level 10 characters encounter 1 level 10 fighter (CR 9) it would be an easy encounter.

So many names being thrown about.

I don't know ANY of them.

get thee to thine bookstore or library!

I'm think of eventually usiing the SC module yet setting in the FR. Wher would be the best spot to set it up in that world?

hmm...

SW side of the realms, near Chult?

Well yes that might have made more sense but that's not how you fine developer at Paizo Publishing did it in the end (no offense meant by that). So how do we handle fire so hot it burns even devils and cold so cold it freezes ice elementals?

Make a few spells of the appropriate subshool/types and give them lower damage/dice yet make the damage untyped.

This is 3.5 from Spell Compendium. Probably not what you are looking for as it is 9th level and 1 hour casting time, but it is the only thing like what you are looking for that I've found.

Hindsight** spoiler omitted **...

This is the one that i could find reference to also. I believ ethere may have been a few similar themed ones in...the 2e Chronomancy splat? Also perhaps a 3pp product or two.

Retrocognition is tricky and can potentially be plot breaking, but no more so then Commune with your deity and ask "who dun it" in comparison.

Object Reading is a type of reverse time scrying as well.

edit: i believe one of the last year or two's dragon mags also had a chronomancy revisited for 3.5 article, possibly something there?

phantom1592 wrote:

I haven't done the metagame Dpr formulas, so I really don't have an opinion on that aspect.

one thing I WOULD like to see, is when making new weapons they keep Weapon finese in mind!! The fact that 'Sword cane' doesn't have a line of text saying either 'This weapon works with Finesse' or 'This weapon shares a proficiency with Rapier' is truly inexcusable.

Umm... they do keep that in mind, they define the weapon as "Light" when it's finesse-able. Alternately they have entries like the Sawtooth Saber "If you have exotic weapon proficiency (Sawtooth Saber) treat this as a light melee weapon"... in other words... It's finesse-able.

If a weapon *isn't* a light melee weapon then the developers don't intend for it to be used with Weapon Finesse. That is one of the biggest reasons some weapons are listed as light melee and others are one handed.

i believe he was stating that he felt(and on this one i agree with him) that the sword cane could/should? have been finesse-able or a light weapon. nine times out of ten whenever i see one, it's used in a style of...fencing.

i'm just boggling at ...
"you're not evil, so i'll make you evil! now i can smite you!?!"

My guess about the replacement of Angel and Iceman is that since they already placed them in X2 and X3, and casting them as kids no less, has made it fairly impossible for them to have roles in this one, set decades before X1, likely before either of them were even born.

As for Emma Frost, Im a little toen on that as well, as I was pretty sure she had a cameo in the Wolverine movie right near the ending. Havent watched the movie in awhile, but IF it was her(the blonde girl with no bra who turns into diamonds and blocks some bullets), then that ought to create continuity issues in this X-Universe the movies are creating.

+1 to movie Cyclops sucking.

i always thought that was supposed to be Diamond Lil. my bad.

Does the elevation from being on a large mount count as being more than 2 spaces or squares away?

RAW, no.

Well, i wanted to take a moment to say that i like the suggested change, it seems neat and flavorful still, while adding in a mechanical benefit.

Also, i'm very happy to see the gang come up with a workable solution (true not PFS viable, but home games are clear.) instead of just complaining and railing at the heavens.

/tips hat.

I've been doing some thinking on this over the past week. I think i'm doing to do a small overhaul of the city building process, and break the structures available into tiers. The larger/more expansive building like arena/cathedral/magical-acadamy will have to wait until the city is large enough (level, rank, whatever term i settle on) to support it. A bit more Civ-esque i suppose. but my group players like that kinda game anyways. I like the "blank numbers" sheet with only + - symbols, i think i may do that one as well. If i did 5 "tiers" to a city, i'd allow the players to see the options for their current tier and the one just above.

"we need to level the town so we can unlock the aquaducts!"

etc.

mostly posting this so i don't forget it myself ;)

Paizo have stated several times that they have no intention of sidestepping WotC IP and populating Golarion with Brain Suckers (Urleetheds), Observator Orbs, Yathginki and other poor quality substitutes :)

summed up better then i could have!

+1!

Since Tharizdun is the product identity of Wizards of the Coast, and thus we're not allowed to use that character in any product we create...

really? 20 seconds? 1 minute? curse you both!

Will we see the plague of Tharizdun reach out across the multiverse to these shores, or shall Golarion journey on without notice (like mystara)?

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but a metaplot by a different company, with a different IP, in a different game system, is unlikely to be available let alone used. Even if it were available, i HIGHLY doubt it would be used.

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Prime example.

Dragon Half.

Dub = hysterical.

Sub = snorefest.

heresy.

liked both.

i'll slap 'hysterical' to either version ;)

Like TOZ i'm a subbed/dubbed omnivore. I started with dubs where possible, but have grown comfortable with subs over the years. I actually don't even feel like i am missing anything when i watch one subbed these days.

I believe all of that is true except the part about ray of Enfeeblement doing sneak attack damage. Unless they changed this from 3.5, a ray has to do actual hit point damage to qualify for sneak attack.

I kind of wish it did, used to have a ray wizard with split ray and improved crit: Ray. Would have been nice for the extra damage.

Well, in 3.5 it did work. In PF ray of enfeeblement bestows a penalty, not stat damage so sneak attack won't work in that specific case anymore.

I was wondering how much to share. I was planning on just giving them a list of buildings, and have beveoy send a "city planner" who will give an abstract idea to what stats each building effects. My question is if this is enough info? Should I provide the kingdom and city sheet or should those be game master only?

depends on your group. if they like Civ style games, then they should see the lists (imo).

Who, Snookie?

/looked it up

Arisia Rrab

harmor wrote:

How do you deal with Paladins when you're a caster wanting to cast spells with the [Evil] discriptor?

Could you convince them, for example, that you can create Zombies/Skeletons of creatures without souls?

Fact: Skeletons and zombies are mindless.

Fact: Negative energy is not evil.
Fact: Animate dead does not affect souls. It does not rip souls from heaven or hell to animate the dead.
Fact: You can use flesh to stone on a statue, resulting in a Corpse. You can then cast animate dead on that corpse, making an undead that was once stone.
Fact: Animate Dead has the Evil descriptor.

The Paladin code bars her from working with evil associates for long, or someone who constantly is offending her code. If the caster is Good (in the case of wizards or sorcerers, who have no restrictions on casting the spell), or Neutral (such as gray clerics), the Paladin may find it offensive, but perhaps tolerable.

Honestly, if the Paladin makes a fuss about it, you may not be able to convince them if they refuse to listen. However, it's absolutely impossible to argue that undead are innately evil without resorting to "well just because they are", which in a real situation has no weight.

Honestly, I'd let the Paladin and the rest of the group know that it's the Paladin being unreasonable. The Paladin has no right to say what the rest of the party does. Request, sure, but if the Necromancer in the party pops some undead zombies up, and the Paladin complains, he's free to leave. It's not you that is causing the problem, but the Paladin and his rigidness. The Paladin is the one who is creating the problem (notice the Necromancer likely doesn't have a class feature telling him he can't be friends with the Paladin), so either he can get over it, or he can get lost.

It's as simple as that.

Skeletons and Zombies are by default malevolent and evil. It was 3.x where they were mindless/neutral. Also, if someone was to walk up and tell me to "get over it or get lost" , i and my group would ask them to do the walking. Hostile Confrontationalism doesn't help anyone.

Rathendar wrote:

Mac Boyce wrote:

Urizen wrote:

Mac Boyce wrote:

Uri: Jenny's thinking about getting that GL costume you posted. :D

You know I will demand photos.

And if she gets it, they will be posted!

GL costume?

/piqued

Green Lantern

It's not the exact one Uri posted, but I likey anyway.

hmm. i find your comments interesting and insightful, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

(!)

As a side note, i think that one was based on the costume the orange skinned girl switched to when she came to earth.

Urizen wrote:

Mac Boyce wrote:

Uri: Jenny's thinking about getting that GL costume you posted. :D

You know I will demand photos.

And if she gets it, they will be posted!

GL costume?

/piqued

Rathendar wrote:

They immediately show as evil if the paladin uses detect on them.

"these aren't undead, just animated objects!"

/detect.
*ping*

"i don't think so."

Oops. Ok, so the necromancer needs to invest in some lead-lined robes for his zombies then. :P

stop persecuting the heritage of my not-undead-simply-animate-objects, you ethnocentric b*tch?

Actually, the problem you have isn't necessarily with the fact that they are undead. Remember that a Paladin really has no way to differentiate between whether the pile of bones that is moving is the result of an Animate Dead spell or an Animate Object spell. So if that were a Paladin's issue it would be a simple bluff to say that you are simply animating the bones and not the actually creature itself.

They immediately show as evil if the paladin uses detect on them.

"these aren't undead, just animated objects!"

/detect.
*ping*

"i don't think so."

Liked the first one.
Second one had too much toilet humor for me. I wanted Transformers, not American Pie with explosions.

Not sure what to expect on the 3rd, but will most likely see it.

Rathendar wrote:

harmor wrote:

Cheapy wrote:

Are you deadset (groan) on playing a necromancer? Sounds like your character is going to cause a party schism.

No, but I'd like to have the option for 'disposable' minions.

Use Summons instead?

Summons are 1/rnd per level vs. indefinitely controlled undead limited by your HD.

I'm aware of the difference. it doesn't mean it's not an option however. In addition, the binding spells are not 1 rounders.

Without some kind of DM intervetion/houserule, paladins and undead users in teh same group are typically a no-go. You and the other player shoudl have a chat, and hash out your character ideas. One of you may have to change concept for this game, but i would suggest that whoever does, support the other player's concept in the next one.

Cheapy wrote:

Are you deadset (groan) on playing a necromancer? Sounds like your character is going to cause a party schism.

No, but I'd like to have the option for 'disposable' minions.

Use Summons instead?

Rathendar wrote:

Mothman wrote:

Hi Rath - I don't see you much now that I rarely make it to the chat room. How's things?

Things are pretty good here man. sorry i don't see ya in chat as much also. I don't get to blame you for Random Event XX anymore.

newsish on me, is i currently run Savage Tide for my in person group, and am playing a summoner in legacy of fire on alternate weekends.

Shouldn't I get blamed more if I'm not there? That's how it seems to happen at work ...

Cool, I like Savage Tide (the game I was in never made it far into the second chapter though) ... how's it going? Legacy of Fire is also great.

Blaming you in absentia is no fun at all. No reactions, i may as well blame france or canada.

Savage Tide is going well, the group just hit 8th and are playing with Olangru the bar'lagura inside the shrine of demogorgon inside the Fogmire. (part 4)

Hi Rath - I don't see you much now that I rarely make it to the chat room. How's things?

Things are pretty good here man. sorry i don't see ya in chat as much also. I don't get to blame you for Random Event XX anymore.

newsish on me, is i currently run Savage Tide for my in person group, and am playing a summoner in legacy of fire on alternate weekends.

It just seems wrong to me. I just saw a banner ad for JCPenny. Apparently they are having a ...

** spoiler omitted **

I guess that they just have too many and need to sell them off...

And to think you used to have to shell out millions on the black market for this!

Oh boy. Well, if it starts driving me crazy, I'll have to remember to come back here and confirm.

I also feel the writer started running out of ideas.

/new character arrives!
"so what's your power?"
"dirty boots."
"what? really? the hell does that mean."
"means these boots i wear. the dirtier they get, the faster/stronger i become."
"you can't be serious."
(paraphrased.)

Naruto I wanted to like; I tried to like. The main character just bugs the hell out of me.

You may run into that with bleach then. It has a ginormous cast of characters that keeps growing, and the main characters power levels are very swingy. Some fans like the one and hate the other, some like both, etc. I personally hate the mandatory episodes set aside for bad guy backstory. ok, so these 5 guys show up. 1st episode hero A and villan X clash. Its a decent fight. Next episode, flashback exposition on villain X, next episode, conclusion of fight. Hero B and villain Y in episode 4, decent fight, episode 5, flashback exposition backstory of Villain Y, etc.

My friend said it best. He lives for the Kenpachi battles. "Enough with your words. NO MORE TALK! RAAAAH!"

Theres also one character, who despite having several duel scenes in several hundred episodes, never actually fights at all.

/staredown.
/verble exchange.
/staredown.
/bad guy backs down after 4 epsiodes worth of staredown/commentary interludes mixed into other peoples battles.

Could you convince them, for example, that you can create Zombies/Skeletons of creatures without souls?

could you convince them of that? unlikely.

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Recent anime: Sacred Blacksmith (complete), Spice & Wolf (ssn 1), Bleach (first couple of episodes).

How are those three? I have yet to watch them.

Bleach is similar to Naruto in that it's several hundred episodes, swingy on power levels and continuity, and has seasons of filler arcs. if you liked one you will probably enjoy the other. Sacred Blacksmith i enjoyed, i liked the concept of the transforming/sentient weapons. A few minor plot quibbles but overall a nice watch. No regrets on it. Spice and Wolf i found to be solidly entertaining, not super extreme in any of its genres included.

Aldin wrote:

1,6,11,16 satisfies having the "feat only once per five levels" since five levels isn't a requirement but a limitation.

So I could take it once at 1st and three times at level 15th?

if you mean taking it at 1st, 15th, 17th, and 19th , then yeah, that's how i'd see it.

First, Ogre has made clear in the past he doesn't like either me, or the site, or both but it doesn't matter. Here's the deal..

Interesting, and thanks for stopping in for the heads up on the hows and whys.

I take it that this isn't the standard procedure for adding new source material to the site?

it's a fan site, not a paizo site.

Seriously, if you have access to 9th level spells, immortality shouldn't be a problem for you. You can become a lich at level 10 or 13, or you can create your own spell that basically grants you an ageless, immortal body.

The only reason, or one of the only reasons, someone becomes a lich and goes through all that hard work and suffering, is because they aren't powerful enough to create/cast a 9th level spell. They wing it and fail, and lichdom is a result of the failure.

In other words, they know they won't make it to 9th level spells, so the try to Mcgyver it and lich is the best they've come up with.

And evil/good people may have...difficulties coming back for a reincarnation, as a)heaven is generally agreed upon to be awesome, and b)hell really doesn't like losing souls. And then there's Pharasma. Good luck.

Although that would be really fun. Have the character die of old age, have the Grim Reaper hold conversations with them ala Terry Pratchett's Discworld series, and then bring them back again with the Reaper saying "SEE YOU LATER."

UM also has Immortality for wizards at level 20 as a feat option.

As far as editions and GURPS and etc etc, if there is anything I have learned it is that there is no single system for everything. I enjoy 4e and 3e and 2e and beyond, I enjoy BESM, I enjoy ORE and Reign and AFMBE. Risus, Mutants and Masterminds, Spycraft. SWSE and Deadlands and Dogs in the Vineyard.

Each of those games excels at different things. I wouldn't play D&D if I want a wacky anime style game, I'd play BESM. I wouldn't play Dogs in the Vineyard if I want a high flying fantasy adventure game, I'd play D&D 3e or 4e. If I want to mow down zombies by the hundreds, I wouldn't play AFMBE, but I want to run away screaming from zombies and desperately try to not die, I would. How gritty do I want my fantasy game? That makes the difference between D&D and GURPS and RuneQuest and Warhammer (vaguely in that order from least grit to vague grit to quite gritty to Sam Raimi Black Humor Everyone is Dying)

As a fellow player of many different game systems i can only say +1 to this here, the first sentence especially.

matiez wrote:

My first question was very poorly worded.

Rewording: How many rounds at the start of combat should a player use to cast short duration self-buffs?

I've heard from the boards that a typical adventuring day should be 4 encounters of about 4-5 rounds on average. If it takes 4 rounds for the Battle Cleric to buff himself to be useful, he's no longer useful. The rest of the party can take out the BBEG before the cleric is ready. A good scout could allow the party several rounds before the initiative roll to prep buffs, but those aren't the encounters I'm referring to.

General advice is not to buff in combat. Every round you buff is a round you're not contributing to battle. That's why you buff just prior to combat whenever possible, so your first round will consist of moving into position and/or attacking the enemy.

However, if your buff is on other party member(s) then you are contributing in that round and later also. Bardsongs, Haste, Mass whatever. Self buffing however, i'd basically try to stop with 1 round.

In regards to Druid Wild Shape ability.

Beast Shape 1 has darkvision as an ability,
Beast Shape 2 has darkvision, pounce, grab and trip as an ability,
Beast Shape 3 has above and blindsense, poison, rake, trample, web,

now I have found animals that have pounce grab and trip for beast shape 2, but I have not found any Animals but no animal that has dark vision or blindsense for beast shape 3.

anyone know of any I have both Bestiary books for pathfinder but didn't see them, so if you know of any that would be nice.

also you cant be magical beasts as a druid using wildshape? but u can be all other types that beast shape can change into?

mainly looking for things that have blindsense or blindsight so i can assume that form when fighting invisible things but if you have any suggestions for dark vision animals that would be nice too

thanks for your tips in advance.

Bats?

stuff

I very much agree with you, but you are talking to deaf ears with this person.

Is there a spell that will provide a continuing light source that is strong enough to outright prevent the effects of deeper darkness?

a light subtyped spell of higher level.

It's a level 3 spell. Casting Daylight (also level 3) cancels both leaving other light sources working again. If you want to overpower it, Heighten Daylight to 4th.

Why yes, yes I have.

hmm, i like a lot of this, thank you Kain.

RagingBob totally deserved it. Never pick a fight with a Halfling.

He so did!

PS, that halfling was a beast.

Example

RagingBob is mangled in a nasty melee, and dropped to -35 hp below 0. He has a Con score of 18. He's dead Jim.

BandaidTimmy rushes up the next round, and casts Breath of Life on RagingBob's corpse. BandaidTimmy rolls 5d8+10(being 10th level) and gets average, totaling 32. Breath of Life heals Raging bob from -35 to -3. As -3hp is not enough to keep RagingBob dead, he is now alive again.

Alternately, same situation, but BandaidTimmy rolls minimum on his dice (5d8+10) totaling 15. -35 +15 is -20, which is still unfortunately enough damage for RagingBob to still be dead. Sorry RagingBob.