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You couldn't have done that before I FAQed the post? ;-)

The original wording in the book could be clearer, but those quotes do seem to clarify the intent.

Richard Leonhart wrote:

I bet this has already been discussed on the board, but I can't find it.

Can I make a ninja/scout? Ninja has the stuff the scout replaces.

Quotes to note:
d20pfsrd.
Alternate classes are standalone classes whose basic ideas are very close to established base classes. (thanks Sangalor for the quote)

and
PF reference document.
A character can take more than one archetype and garner additional alternate class features,

In my opinion they seem to contradict each other.

Edit: if they can be mixed, I would suggest to errata the first quote to "they are presented as standalone classes" if it's not too much trouble.

Thanks for the new thread, Richard :-)

I still say you cannot use a rogue archetype for the ninja class. They are, as you quoted, "standalone classes", thus excluding the archetypes of the original class.

But hey, convince me otherwise :-)

If that was the case, they could take levels in the original class. They can't. Ergo, they are the originasl class and can taek archetypes they qualify for. Tha'ts ignoring the fact that they have been described by Paizo staffers as "really big archetypes". That's all they are.

I bet this has already been discussed on the board, but I can't find it.

Can I make a ninja/scout? Ninja has the stuff the scout replaces.

Quotes to note:
d20pfsrd.
Alternate classes are standalone classes whose basic ideas are very close to established base classes. (thanks Sangalor for the quote)

and
PF reference document.
A character can take more than one archetype and garner additional alternate class features,

In my opinion they seem to contradict each other.

Edit: if they can be mixed, I would suggest to errata the first quote to "they are presented as standalone classes" if it's not too much trouble.

Yes, they can. Alternate classes are still part of the base class. They are presented as standalone but that is presentation only. They are still the base class in all fundamentals, as is shown by the fact they can't take levels in the base class.

DBLue,
1) I don't beleive so. I think in that case, you're out of luck. Talk to your GM about itm but I'd try to avoid that situation.

2) You add the levels of Dragoon and Cavalier together then look at the Cavalier and Dragoon banners at the combined level and take whichever bonus is better. Generally, this will be the cavalier's.

Eventually the fiction is released in an epub format. Not sure how long after the AP finishes that is though.

Becket,,
I'm curious, do you think that your quid pro quo example isn't already happening every single day to gay people in America?

Beckett,
Aretas said you can't compare the two because one is an abomination accordingto the Bible. So, yeah, someone did.

Are these issues you mention that long list of spoilers, most of which weere untrue or absurd extensions to martrying sex toys? If so, you're so out there you're not even wrong.

I'm not denying HD is being a douche. I'm not even denying I'm being something of a douche. I AM arguing that people like you and Aretas who want to deny people equal treatment under the law as guaranteed in the Constitution, are being EVEN BIGGER douches on this issue. I don't think either of you are evil or anything, or even particularly douchey in any other area (ok, maybe clerics in Pathfidner ;-) ), but on this one, not the discussion but the issue itself, you're both being enormous douches.

Beckett,
Your entire system couldn't handle it? Really? Then you're f+**ed no matter whether you allow gays to marry or not. If your system is really in that bad a state, it'll collapse anyway.

Also, you missed my point more than I missed yours, apparently. I'm pointing out that if cost is the determining factor in whether you should grant a right, which is the fundamental of the argument you put forward, you should apply it to all the rights and freedom of religion is expensive. I don't advocate denying people rights based on cost, I'm just following the logic of your position to a conclusion you don't like. Not my fault that's the logic. However, I do apologise for the needless dig at you in the last line of that paragraph. It wasn't deserved and I really should know better.

On civilised, insulting people (and calling someone an abomination is an insult, surely) is more civilised than legislating so people are an inferior class of citizens. So, even if HD was being a douche, he was still being less of a douche than the people who insult AND try to deny people rights.

On a positive note:

Linkified

You know what really pisses me off? The whole "I'm a girl so I'm supposed to be bad at math and science" thing. My former students pulled that crap all the time, and my wife and her sisters do it, and it's so pervasive and so incorrect it makes me want to puke sometimes. When I was teaching high school, the girls routinely outperformed the boys, by a fairly substantial margin, on the standardized science testing. Now that I'm in industry, when I meet with college-age people for recruiting, the chicks are routinely outperforming the dudes in engineering. Among my co-workers, some of the women are working hard and competently and professionally, and aren't getting recognized for it because so many of the other females pretend to be helpless and collect their checks and figure that's enough to get by on.

I don't think women are naturally better at those things -- I think they're dominant academically partly because young guys are more inclined to be slackers, and guys also typically work a lot harder at trying to pick up their classmates, so they have less attention left over for actual studying. But that aside, I can pretty well guarantee that women, on average, are not one iota less able in those fields than are men. Sorry, guys, but it's true. And that being the case, if I'm going to hire a female scientist or engineer, sorry sweetie, but for business purposes I don't care if you're on the beach volleyball team. I care if you're able to meet deadlines and anticipate chemical degradation products and design buildings that won't fall down.

So on the whole I spend a LOT more time worrying about women being welcome as scientists and engineers than I do about women being welcomed as gamers.

Kirth,

And most of us can do very little about the former problem given that most of us are not in positions of power within science and industry. However, we can do something about welcoming women into our games should they be mad or foolish enough to wish to participate. Fixing that may loosen the death grip on the other parts of this issue which occurs in most areas of society.

I am from the UK. However, as this thread proves, I'm quite ok with interfering with the USA's issues.

As for religion being the big evil, take a look at Aretas' post. He supports this, which I consider evil, because of his religion. Hard to argue religion doesn't play some role there.

Look forward to the links and hope you and your comrades stay safe.

Yes, absolutely, except for maybe that last one. It should be an interesting read.

Also interesting how it's Christians now. . .

Ok. Please show me those campaigns. They need to be mocked and condemned as much as Prop 8 does.

As for using Christianity not religion, yeah, that is sloppy on my part. However, Christianity is the most prevelant religion in America, and several church groups funded much of the campaign for Prop 8. Minority religions rarely throw their weight around having very little weight to throw around. A mouse needs more protection from the 800lb gorilla than the gorilla does from the mouse. So yeah, Christianity was used as Chrsitianity was the driving force through weight of numvers. I'm quite sure Muslims and Jews and atheists supported Prop 8 but the main driving force was a flavouir of conservative Christianity.

And he fact that they might have done so for reasons in addition to their religion, that religious that there are relgious people out there en masse who believe the exact opposite, that there are non-religious groups funding the smae or similar things, etc. . . has nothing to do with it? Religion is the old go-to badguy to slander in areas like this. The Bible is filled with so much, anyone can use it to justify just about anything, and atheists do it all the time. The point is your (general you) discrimination and bigatory is no different than all the discrimination and bigatory your accusing.

Paul Watson wrote:

Beckett,

Maybe because the people who supported Prop 8 overwhelmingly used the Bible as their justification? Just a thought, but, you know, they did.

Actually no, I have no idea. This is the first time I (or anyone from Cali I'm deployed with) seems to have heard of Prop 8. Honestly, after reading the majority of this, I', still not entirely clear what exactly happened. It seems like the same thing with the weed Cali tried to/is trying to pull.

F'ing Cali. . .

Really? I'm in the UK and I know what they're talking about. How can you not? And how can you expect to be taken seriously when you've admited you don't know anything about the situation? You're knowingly speaking from a position of ignorance. Why do you think that's a good idea?

Oh, and can you find an example of similar Atheist bigotry? Campaigns to ban Christian marriage? Presidents and presidnetial candidates saying Christians aren't real Americans? Christains getting death threats for daring to take atheists to court (and winning) to get the constituion upheld? No? Then maybe they're not the same.

Beckett,
Maybe because the people who supported Prop 8 overwhelmingly used the Bible as their justification? Just a thought, but, you know, they did.

Callistril, 4714 (Continued): While Krager went round making sure all the trolls were dead, the others explored the burnt ruins, finding the remains of a merchant (fortunately only bits of him so he was clearly dead before they set everything on fire) and a Swan Boat Feather Token. They then proceeded home as fast as possible, collecting three potions of Resist Electricity in planning for an eventual assault on the Will o’ the Wisps of the Candlemere.

Several dwarves moved into the hills, setting up a gold mine bringing further prosperity to the region. The troll heads also helped quell the rumours of trolls for this month.

Pharast, 4714: The party went out exploring, only to be ambushed by the forest drake. With one exception (Binky, Kaylea’s horse) all their mounts died (although Radon’s weasel familiar survived by burrowing under several layers of clothing). The drake swooped on Radon after a particularly vicious Empowered Scorching Ray, and then retreated up into the air. Vesari leaped onto its back, barely clinging on as it soared higher and higher, slapping at him with its tail. Eventually, the drake got fed up with its annoying passenger, and shook him off. Vesari then calmly floated to the ground with his ring of feather falling. The drake was prepared to swoop down but a volley of arrows from Krager and Kaylea soon changed its mind. As it flew away, Kaylea took another shot and the drake plummeted to the ground. While Vesari and Radon went to take pieces of the drake’s corpse, Krager went in search of its lair, and Kaylea followed, discovering the remains of the unfortunate elven scout.

Despite lacking their mounts, they proceed (more slowly) to the West. Krager spotted a lot of troll tracks leading up to the mountain cave and the party decided to do its best Brave Sir Robin impression and headed home at a leisurely pace, exploring the hills on their way back.

The radishes were successfully farmed, much to Krager’s pleasure as it meant he got proper seasoning to his stews again.

Gozran, 4714: Having acquired new mounts, the party set out exploring to the east. On their way through the hills, Krager noticed a lone wolf following them. Concerned it might be injured, he tried to tempt it with some jerky. At which point the werewolf lunged for him, biting him in the shoulder. Krager’s notoriously un-dwarven constitution failed him and he contracted lycanthropy from that bite. Radon lit up the area with bolts of fire, but sadly did very little to actually hit the werewolf. Vesari covered his sword on silver sheen, while Kaylea charged the beast. As Vesari was just about to strike, the beast dropped dead from its wounds. Frustrated at wasting his silversheen, he stabbed the corpse repeatedly anyway, Krager kicking it in the nuts for good measure. With a week to go to the full moon, Krager took wolfsbane once a day, successfully resisting the poison, but also failing to shift the curse, taking three full doses before he was clean.

Continuing on, the party explored several areas of the hills before they stumbled onto Munguk. Specifically, they heard him moaning in giant about “no booze, no game, no woman, no booze!” Approaching cautiously, they managed to persuade Munguk to listen to them, with promises of booze (despite only having a few bottles of rotgut and wine between them). Vesari then tried to explain how the trolls had booze. This lie was so transparent that even Munguk, a giant of very little brain, realised it was false. With a bellow of “You lie to Munguk” he picked up his club and charged. Vesari tried to dodge past but Munguk managed to successfully club him. Kaylea charged up but sadly missed, as did Krager and Radon’s scorching rays. This meant Munguk ignored them, concentrating on pounding Vesari into the ground. When Krager finally did hit him, Munguk pounded him till he fell over, with Kaylea suffering particularly bad fortune with her attacks. Vesari used this opportunity to get a long way back from Munguk, just as Radon managed to hit him. Enraged at the pain from the fire, Munguk charged at Radon. Kaylea struck him and then as Munguk had to move again to reach the magus, she struck him again sending the giant plunging to the floor. Vesari searched Krager (for healing potions, honestly) and they then proceeded to drain one of Kaylea’s healing wands to heal everyone up, muttering about Cayden Cailean’s protection for drunks and Desna’s cursed luck the whole time. Despite this, they continued their explorations, encountering some of the Sootscale tribe in their travels. They warned the kobolds about the trolls and how they were a threat. The kobolds did a little figuring, mostly along the lines of these guys who saved us, beat up the shaman and just said they killed a giant say it’s dangerous and promptly fled as fast as possible.

Having finished their explorations, and with plans to take on the trolls being formed, the party returned home to find Port Glory astir with fear as a changeling child had been found, rumours buzzing that everything from a coven of hags to a cult of Gyronna was in the town, kidnapping and eating children.

And there we left things.

Kuthona, 4713 (continued): The town they returned to was a bit less content than usual. Tracking it down to the malcontent Grigori, the party listened to him rant about “the Mof has married a monster, a creature that isn’t even fully human. We don’t want another Chorval, do we?” The crowd mostly agreed as Kaylea was starting to show some fine red scales as she embraced her draconic heritage. He persisted with “no unmarried owman, and damn few married ones, are safe from the rapacious lusts of the magister”, which even the party had to agree was mostly true. Sadly things took a negative turn from there as he criticised Svetlana, suggesting she had fallen victim to the magus’ lusts, which got the crowd agitated as she’s still highly regarded. Kaylea began to intervene at this point countering claims of them stirring up trouble by pointing out all the good they’d done and even getting Tyg’s parents to step out of the crowd to support her. Claims of them plundering the treasury from their own ends were met with laughter from Krager and furious protests from Vesari and Radon, all of whom had sunk considerable income into the kingdom. Claims that they promote monsters into power were harder to dispute given both the general and headsman were an ex-bandit (and ex-paladin as Krager was happy to point out) and murderous werewolf but they appealed for the value of second chances. The crowd was starting to turn at this point, so Grigori pulled out that they may do some good, but they expect to be paid handsomely for it. At this point Stas stood up and disputed this, punctuating his point with a beer mug (empty, he’s not daft). At this point, Grigori realised his chances of winning the crowd over was lost and left town in a hurry.

Abadius, 4714: The party decided to go exploring, eager to fill in the blanks to the east before Baron Varn decided to investigate them. Not wanting to leave Radon alone in town, especially not with the snows keeping people indoors, and over his strenuous protests about the cold, they rode out and began to explore. During their explorations of the hills, they heard a cry of distress from one of the nearby gorges. Krager and Radon raced heedlessly to help, Kaylea keeping up. All three managed to dodge a small avalanche that blocked the gorge. As Vesari was approaching the debris, he was bitten incredibly hard from behind. He shouted out as he spied the leucrotta and stepped back to fire his bow. Sadly this distracted him enough for the leucrotta to get another bite in and he collapsed to the floor, barely alive. The others had just managed to climb over the debris, with Krager making easy work of it. The Leucrotta was dragging Vesari off but Kaylea raced up, using her wand to partially restore Vesari from the brink of death. Radon hurled magic missiles at the beast as Krager charged up to it, bashing it with his hammer as Kaylea’s axe gashed along its side. Another volley of missiles laid it low. Vesari was healed up from Kaylea’s wand and proceeded to carefully slice off its head for mounting. They also found the beast’s lair with Krager claiming the armour, checking it didn’t clash with his cloak.

They decided to continue their explorations, only to be ambushed by a shambling mound that quickly grabbed Radon. He was unable to break free, but the party attacked in response. Radon managed to slip free as Vesari smashed a bottle of alchemist’s fire on the mound, splashing Kaylea, who ignored the splashes of fire, and Krager, who would later complain about the stains it left on his armour. The mound grabbed him, but Kaylea cleaved it apart before it could do much more damage. Having been out for a fortnight, the party swiftly returned to Port Glory where the building of their castle had quelled the unrest.

Callistril, 4714: The party again set out exploring, determined to fill in the gaps as Krager couldn’t tolerate a hole in their map. After a few days they found the old ferry station on the Shrike River but spotted it was currently inhabited. By trolls. The party debated whether they could manage this fight, but eventually decided on a plan. Approaching cautiously, they managed to get the drop on the lone troll fishing outside. Radon hurled a scorching ray at it but something went wrong with the casting as, in addition to burning the troll badly, he swapped places with it, putting him perilously close to the lair. The party immediately set to hacking at the troll as Radon immediately set to running like hell towards them, pausing briefly to lay a batch of grease in front of the troll’s ‘door’, a mangled section of the wall. Vesari hurled a web into the building as soon as the first troll came out, slowing those inside. Krager and Kaylea raced up to the lone troll as it lumbered after Radon who also burned it. The troll was put down, and Radon delivered the coup de grace with his burning staff as Vedsari added more webbing to the filled interior. Another troll struggled free. Krager made it to him first, sooty wounds appearing across the troll’s skin just before Kaylea roared up, hacking at it. Radon also joined in as Vesari came closer, dropping yet more webbing into the terminal as the party dropped the third troll. As the remaining two lumbered out, Radon cast burning hands, singing them, but setting the webbing around them alight. As Radon, Krager and Kaylea attacked one of the trolls, Vesari took shots with his new bow into the last one. The party swiftly killed their troll and Krager smashed a bottle of alchemist’s fire into it, not caring about the singing he took. Radon finished it up with a combination of burning hands and flaming quarterstaff, but the terminal very nearly burnt to the ground.

And there we left it, with Vesari muttering about their herbalist and the weird s&!@ he needs for his potions.

Sissyl wrote:

Never thought I'd agree with Scott Betts of all people. Yet, here I am, agreeing 100%.

I daresay we'd probably agree on most important things. We just happen to argue about D&D a lot.

Are you trying to imply that D&D isn't one of the, if not the absolutely, most important thing? For shame, Scott, for shame. ;-)

Congratulations to the proud parents. At least they're used to functioning on zero sleep already.

Evil Lincoln wrote:

Been reading the original REH Conan stuff and I'm surprised by just how homoerotic the depictions of men are. Certainly he spends much more time describing the perfection and appeal of the male form than he does the female (though there's plenty of that too). I know it was the 30s and that was probably not how it was intended to be taken, but Conan is pretty bisexual if you take his behavior as the only metric; he's always hanging around with some new dude who is described as appealing in a similar way.

I've been waxing nostalgic over in the kids' books thread and you know how it is, one memory leads to another, etc.

Anyway, does anyone remember an old TSR book called (IIRC) Bimbos of the Death Sun? I wish I had a copy at hand because it is so obviously on-topic, but, in particular,

** spoiler omitted **

I so wish I could read that again.

This one?

Jess Door wrote:

Original Art

My suggested change

Help! I'm completely freaking blind. I've looked at both covers like 6 times and can't see the difference.

Oh good, it's not just me. I think in the edited version there is more cloth covering the cleavage so it doesn't pop out when she bends over. Basically the boobhole inthe original is covered in the edit, I think. But that is informed by reading the original post in Jess Stone's third link.

Phillip Pullman's Ruby in the Smoke series (Ruby in the Smoke, Shadow in the North, Tiger in the Well, Tin Princess) is better than His Dark Materials. The last book in the latter needs an editor badly and is more a polemic dressed up as a fiction book. IMO.

Paul Watson wrote:

Crimson Jester wrote:

The only question that Hulk find hard is, "Do Hulk prefer Kirk or Hulk prefer Picard?"

Hah. Hulk finds that one easy. Hulk prefer Sisko!

Hulk not gay, Hulk prefer 7of9.

Hulk is just good freinds with puny Banner, Hulk swears.

The only question that Hulk find hard is, "Do Hulk prefer Kirk or Hulk prefer Picard?"

Hah. Hulk finds that one easy. Hulk prefer Sisko!

Hulk love Rickrolls.

Never gonna give Hulk up,

never gonna let Hulk down,
never gonna run around and desert Hulk

I allow something like this: You can switch out only the highest armour feat. And you can't get it back by multiclassing. If you spend a feat for it, that's fine but all your classes now provide proficiency in one armour less.

now that it's mentioned, is "Steal Book" stated out anywhere?

It's statted out in Kobold Quarterly 14.

RedPorcupine wrote:

Aretas wrote:

No I do not believe America has lost its soul. I believe that those who have declared war on America are subject to detainment, interogation and torture, especially if they have valuable information that they are withholding that would save lives. Those scum use our laws, and freedoms against us.

That is a very difficult issue and moral dilemma/problem, admitedly.

Officially allowing it, is an abomination though, IMO.
I was more reffering to the point that he wasn´t even properly elected and then went on to lie to the world, to start a largely pointless war, apparently for the benefit of his friends at Halliburton.

He was elected President of the United States of America. Kerry had a good run but came up short. Accept the lose and move forward. Throw your allegiance behind the President. Sadly I did not see this from many Kerry supporters after Bush was elected.

Not really seeing it from Republicans with Obama, either. Just saying.

It appears that the holiday12 code is no longer active. What is up with the post?

Really? Worked fine for me yesterday.

Hulk does solemnly swear that Hulk will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of Hulk's ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Unaccustomed as Hulk is to public speaking...

Lamashan, 4713 (continued): The party investigated the murders, piecing together the wounds as caused by some large canine, possibly a worg. However, the tracks Krager followed appeared to change to heavily booted feet outside the city and he lost them. The party quickly purchased several silver arrows and two bottles of silversheen and staked out the inn. On spotting the werewolf, Krager let off an arrow as both Vesari and Kaylea moved towards it, while Radon cast Ablative Shield on himself. The wolf then charged, the greataxe missing Kaylea but his vicious bite tripping her up. As Vesari struck with his swords, to little effect, Krager leapt off the stable roof and charged forward with his silversheened axe. Kaylea got up, taking another hit from the axe and massively wounded the beast, dropping it to the ground. Krager then cast stabilise on the barbarian revealed, in case this was an innocent rather than a monster. After several manacles had been applied, they forcefed him wolfsbane, Kaylea and Krager doing their best to keep him alive despite the damage the poison did him as his body fought off the curse. Eventually, Kunlan recovered himself and pledged his axe to their service.

Meanwhile, Kaylea had managed to slip Moff Terjion the Philter of Love and preparations are on the way for the wedding.

Neth, 4713: Radon went out to see the Beldame, wanting to recruit her as a fellow arcanist. He did slightly better than the others by not provoking a fight with her guardian. The Beldame asked if he could get her some blackcap mushrooms from the mud pools in exchange for possibly aiding him in future and the rest of the party agreed.

On reaching the pool, and Krager muttering not again as a tendriculos charged over to them, Krager rushed up to it, the tendriculos pulling back as smoking wounds appeared on its body. Sadly, Krager then succumbed to the fumes and the tendriculous managed to bite on to him. Vesari tried to help Krager, dosing him with antitoxin to keep him going, while Kaylea charged up to strike the tendriculous. Krager managed to squirm enough that it couldn't swallow him, vanishing and reappearing behind it. This enabled Vesari to stab at it with both his rapier and short sword, while Radon's bolt of fire put the tendriculous down. Vesari has kept one of the mushrooms with the intent to try to cultivate it.

The wedding of Moff Terjion of Abadar and Kaylea Burning-Sky was a great success, with Akiros taking up Kaylea's old position of General, while Kunlan became the new Executioner. Baron Varn of the new settlement of Varnhold to the East sent his regards and a standing invitation for the Moff and his bride to visit once the winter snows were cleared.

Kuthona, 4713: Krager's OCD tendencies finally got the better of him and he led the party out to fill in a gap in their maps to the west in the depths of winter. They found a hidden lair deep in the forest, and as Radon walked inside, casting light, a hodag charged at him. Sadly for the hodag, the party were swifter and it was unable to toss them aside. It did maul Kaylea, somewhat. As Krager tried to sidestep it, hoping it would miss so he could slip past and set up a flank for Vesari, the hodag hit him with a vicious bite that set his wound bleeding profusely. With mighty blows from Kaylea and the others, Radon cast a Shocking Grasp through his staff, dropping the badly wounded hodag, smoke rising from its body. Searching the lair, they discovered Stas' spear along with some other weapons.

They returned to Port Glory, and attempted to return the spear to Stas, but he was more than grateful for the council treating him so fairly, especially in front of his drinking buddies and really especially when Krager bought them several rounds of ale. Krager also finished making a magic bow for Vesari.

I for one can't wait until the whining about the Year of Asian-Themed Pathfinder Products comes to an end. Asian-themed has had 1 Companion and 1 Chronicle. These have been hotly anticipated in general and also unavoidably delayed, so they've been talked about for longer than would be normal. There is half an AP in the Orient. There are two alternate classes and some archetypes in Ultimate Combat. This 'onslaught' is really piffling as onslaughts go. More of an offslaught. Not that facts should really get in the way of these discussions, of course.

There are quite a few of us. Wintergreen is the UK PFS coordinator and might be able to point you to a local group. There's also PaizoconUK in June, IIRC, where I'm sure you'd be welcome.

Could be worse. You could be listening to the tripe the Tea Party want in Tennessee.

How about this one:

Melee: +1 frost spear +21/+16/+11 (2d6+10/×3 plus 1d6 cold plus slow), bite +14 (2d6+6), tail +14 (3d6+3 plus slow)

What is the question? The creature gets three iteratvie attacks with its spear, and two secondary attacks with bite and tail. If it doesn't use the spear, the bite weould be primary and hit at +19, while the tail would still be secondary.

Mikaze,

Something I'm still homebrewing that might work for you:

Animate Juju
Prerequisites: Spell Focus (Necromancy), Knowledge (Religion): 3, one of Command Undead, Turn Undead, Undead Bloodline, Sanguine bloodline
Benefit: Undead you animate are not inherently evil. Mindless undead are neutral and intelligent undead are your alignment. Spells creating undead lose the [Evil] descriptor for you.

After all, why should just juju Oracles get all the fun?

I think the main change as Talon and Mikaze are correct that it's too easy would be to increase the ranks in Knowledge (Religion) sharply, say to 7. Maybe add in Thanatopic Spell from Ultimate Magic to symbolise the increased study of undead, but I think that would make it too difficult, given it's already a fairly niche feat that doesn't directly affect the power curve.

Second Darkness and LoF are both 3.5, yes. All Pathfinder APs use the MEdium track. As you noted, 3.5 are best simulated with the fast XP track.

Second Darkness has a couple of screeching swerve to the plot. If your players are fine with that (and with helping people who are a+~#*+*+s towards them without much explicit reqard, which is a challenge given how th AP starts) this could go well. But beware the screeching turns.

Legacy of Fire is a good path. Pretty solid, but it does have two planar adventures back to back that can strain the patience of those who prefer to keep things in Golarion. Also Arabian Knights flavour so some tradtiional concepts work less well.

Jade Regent hasn't finished eyet so hard so fully assess. However, the Caravan rules as written DO NOT WORK. The adventure itself looks very nice, but you as the GM do have to put in quite a bit of work to make the NPCs relevant.

Carrion Crown is pretty linear. There is a bug in the Trust mechanic in the first adventure (you have to do everything, including some obscure things, perfectly to get the "Ok, they like you" level of trust so it's probably better to RP that. Pay attnetion to party set up. Clerics or similar are practically a must given the number of conditions you're likely to end up dealing with. It also suffers from the 6 episode long chase. The PCs don't actually catch up until the last module and that cvan be frustrating. The head bad guy comes a little out of the blue, so you'd best be prepared to give some foreshadowing.

Serpent's Skull starts of really strong, but the exploration of the city can easily drag. The lost city could do with a LOT more development as the GM has to wing a lot of the things. Also Books 3 and 4 should probably be run somewhat concurrently to get the best feel of things.

All are good APs. I would say LoF or Carrion Crown would be best but only because Jade Regent hasn't finished yet. I have a persoanl phobia about getting into APs before reading all six parts. Don't let the fact that I'm concentrating on the negative put you off. Just warning you of the oft-reported problems.

EDIT: And you would ask about the ones I haven't Played. If you wanted to know about Curse of the Crimson Throne (brilliant but 3.5), Council of Thieves (Not so much) or Kingmaker (Great as long as the players like a bit of self direction and micromanaging a kingdom)

Lamashan, 4713: The party decided to continue its explorations and headed west. They discovered the abandoned keep and while Radon, Kaylea and Krager went through the rotten front doorway (after Krager and Vesari had scouted around the outside. They thought they heard something inside but couldn't determine what.) Vesari simply walked up the side of one of the towers, show-off that he is. As they entered the keep, the portcullis dropped. Kaylea and Krager both managed to throw themselves forward, but Radon wasn't quite as quick and got badly gashed. While Vesari was exploring the rat-infested tower (from the outside), Krager stood guard and Kaylea used her wand to bring Radon back from woozy to fighting fit.

The party rejoined with Vesari by the tower but decided to leave the door firmly closed for now. Krager wanted to explore the central tower and was a bit irked when everyone else easily outpaced him. Although not quite as annoyed as Vesari when Rigg Gargadily, a quickling, tried to stab him. Fortunately, Vesari's reflexes pulled him out of the way of the blade. Krager then gave Rigg some grog to placate him, but the quickling spat it out. He did, however, like the wine offered and promised to kill Krager last. Kaylea then offered some wine to put him in the difficult existential position of having to kill two people last. Rigg spat at her and when asked why he was going to kill any of them piped up "becauseyouretrespassingandit'sbeenagessinceIhadadecenthumanwhoscreamsonice lyundertheknife" he then stabbed Radon, who'd asked him the question and raced off. Fortunately, Radon threw off the poison.

Vesari tried to trap Rigg in a web but the quickling avoided that easily. Krager drew his bow, while Kaylea and Radon stood back to back as they watched Rigg daub his blade with poison as he vanished from sight. He reappeared as he raced towards Radon, stabbing him again. Radon tried to strike him with his staff, and a Shocking Grasp, but the quickling easily dodged aside and ran off. He repeated this trick as Vesari retreated into his web but was rather less successful as Kaylea's fey-bane axe tore into him, along with Krager's arrows. Swearing revenge, Rigg ran off.

Meanwhile, Vesari noticed he was not alone as an assassin vine slowly crawled towards him through the webbing. He moved as quickly as he could through the webs and the undergrowth, avoiding the vine's attempts to entangle him. Sadly, Radon was less lucky and was wrapped in thorns. As Vesari left the web, with the assassin vine slowly moving behind him, Radon set the web alight. Krager, meanwhile, had noticed the grimstalker in the tower and was taking potshots at him, especially when he started crawling down the tower's walls. Radon freed himself from the thorns and fired a ray of fire at the grimstalker. The fire seared him badly, causing him to growl at Radon, and also deafened him with the roar of flames. Unable to reach Radon through the undergrowth, he instead rushed up to Vesari and stabbed him with its claws. This rather enraged the noble who stabbed him with his rapier, his body shaking as he fought off the poison and took a step back to let Krager, himself now bound by the thorns to take a shot. At this point, Kaylea got bored of missing out on the fun and rushed up to hit the grimstalker, very nearly killing it in one blow. Radon was going to complete the job, but Vesari shouts at him to not kill it yet. The vine tried to strangle Kaylea but was ineffective in getting a grip, so she struck it with her axe, cleaving it in two as Vesari harvested some of the venom from the grimstalker's claws. As they explored the grimstalker's tower, they found the chest but Vesari refused to pick the locks on the grounds that "I'm no thief", so they resorted to Radon splashing acid onto the lock. Vesari, with help from Krager, then strung the grimstalker up on the wall by its own entrails as a warning.

Having raided the tower, the party returned to the central chamber. Kaylea waited outside for Krager, while Vesari and Radon were less polite and strode in. And succeeded in setting off the trap, filling the tower with purple mists. Fortunately, they fought off the delusions that the frescoes were animating to attack them.

Once Krager and Kaylea had stopped laughing, the party proceeded upstairs where everyone except Radon was entranced by the Dancing Lady's dancing. She tried to get to Radon, calling him "My Prince", begging him to come to her and hwen he tried to step away, she cast entangle on him. Sadly, this interacted with the magic of her dance and broke the spell, stunning the three entranced humans. Outraged at the rejection, she slashed at Radon's side, taking a bite out of her shoulder. He proceeded to make the `betrayal' worse, hitting her with his staff and Shocking Grasp. She managed to bite him one more time, before Kaylea's axe hit her in the side and Vesari, who'd abandoned his dropped rapier for a dagger stabbed her through the thigh, severing an artery and dropping her to the ground. She glared up at him, mouthing a curse before she died. Fortunately, Vesari managed to fight off the dark magics. After searching the place, and some comments about how easily Radon knew the price of the nude statue and Kaylea pocketing the philtre as the only one who recognised it for what it was, they finished their exploration of the castle, Vesari and Radon teaming up to take down the rats. They found an exquisite elven statue in the rubble, which Radon claimed for Lily, and several gems in Rigg's lair. They then decided to turn in for the night in the Lady's room, laying down bear traps and caltrops around every entranceway, just in case. This proved prudent as Rigg tried to ambush them in the night. He easily sidestepped the caltrops and the first trap but tripped over another in his haste. He landed hard in a third trap, the heavy jaws crushing his neck. Kaylea's laughter woke up the rest of the group.

Returning home, and discussing how to get a cart out to the woods, they quickly went to see Lily. Radon got his kiss, Krager got the cloak, but it was hewr whispered suggestion to Kaylea that they 'break his brain' that got the most reaction. As they left, they were approached by Kesten, who informed them of a series of attacks. Two nights ago, some livestock were attacked and a shepherd boy named Beven was found having been mauled. Well, most of him was found, anyway. And last night one of the maid's at the Stag's Head didn't make it home. They found her this morning. Quite a mess she was. However, we had to stop before the party could properly investigate.

Port Glory continues to grow as Ratchkins the herbalist opened up his shop. However, the attacks, along with persistent troll rumours, created a deep unease in the populace.

Paul Watson wrote:

Fergie,

Personally, I'd say no more than 20%. Thast will provide a boost but is not likely to massively overshadow everyone else Also let them know that they can't do as one of my players asked and spend 81% of their WBL on crafting a Robe of the Archmagi for a new character. Bonus geek points for the first non-developer to know which level they were trying to get in on.

37,500 = .81X

x= 46,296

9th level.

You win the geek points. Congratulations.

Is the weapon being used two handed? I'd think that was the most likely explanation

Fergie,
Personally, I'd say no more than 20%. Thast will provide a boost but is not likely to massively overshadow everyone else Also let them know that they can't do as one of my players asked and spend 81% of their WBL on crafting a Robe of the Archmagi for a new character. Bonus geek points for the first non-developer to know which level they were trying to get in on.

Good Lord! How stupid! What really pisses me off is that it's going to be even more diffficult for me, as a conservative, to have principled discussions with liberals. Thanks to this yahoo, it'll give liberal bigots even more of an excuse to write me off as an ignorant racist.

Because calling liberals bigots is obviously a sign of wanting an intelligent and mature discussion. I'll have to remember that.

Alternativerly, here's the link to the PRD for it. As stated, it allows alightly more versatility, but most optimisers seem to consider it underpowered compared to normal spellcasting.

Desnus, 4712: The kingdom claimed the area to the East of Oleg's, building a farm there. They also had some bandit activity. This perked Krager up immensely. The party tracked them down and Krager demanded they surrender. He didn't get much further than that before the dozen or so bandits panicked and immediately surrendered. Krager was disappointed as he had a long speech prepared, but he was quite happy to take them into custody. They were quickly sentenced to work on the new farms and road building for a couple of months.

Sarenith, 4712: The kingdom claimed the area around Bokken's hut, converting much of the area to farms. They didn't have any other major events this month but built an Office of the Guard so that any future bandit activity could be dealt with more effectively.

Erastus, 4712: After some attacks on their farmers and hunters, the party set off to find the North-Wind-That-Howls. They tracked him to a vaguely wolf-headed rock, but were ambushed. Krager, who wasn't ambushed, finally got to use his animal bane arrow, slaying one of the wolves. Vesari moved himself into position behind another. North-Wind bit heavily into Krager, but the dwarf was far too stubborn to fall over. Kaylea then charged up and tore the worg apart, while Krager turned on the wolf beside Vesari and killed it immediately, while Radon cast Shocking Grasp but failed to strike the wolf. The last wolf fled, but Vesari shot it with an animal bane arrow and dropped it. He then proceeded to search the wolf's den without much success, but a lot of complaints about the smell, while Krager skinned the wolves (Kaylea wanted some new boots) while Kaylea prepared the wolf jerky into something actually tasty.

The party then followed the Mad Hermit's map further east to the barrow mounds finding the one that had cracked open. Slipping inside, they disturbed the bat swarm, but Vesari hurled a web at them, While Krager stepped behind Radon. Which was fortunate as his burning hands spell incinerated the trapped swarm. They proceeded forward, Kaylea and Radon made their axe and staff glow, having a verbal contest about which was bigger, brighter and shinier, while Vesari ignored them, stepping into the darkness Krager following, suspicious that the human could see properly. On finding the central chamber, Krager immediately stomped on the skeleton's head as a precaution, setting off the trap. He and Kaylea dodged the black beams from the stone faces, but Vesari was tired by the ray as it sapped his energy and Radon almost collapsed in exhaustion. Fortunately, with some inspiring words from Kaylea, he recovered. At that point, they heard bones clacking in the side chambers, Krager and Vesari both spotting the marching skeletons. Krager drew his hammers and charged up to the edge of one corridor, followed by Kaylea, whose axe crushed the skull off the first skeleton they encountered. Vesari launched an arrow into the skeletons but it chinked harmlessly off their bones. Radon rushed up to the other corridor, sending a sheet of flame through the skeleton crowd, five of them falling to the ground in flames. He proceeded to smash the sixth with his staff. Meanwhile, Krager and Kaylea proceeded to pound their skeletons into chips as Vesari searched the room. He was unable to perceive exactly how the trap worked, but did find the doomed explorer's ring of sustenance.

The party then moved into the burial chamber itself. The Barrow King sat up on his beir, grasping his axe and slowly moving towards them. He dodged Vesari's web, and the ray of flame that Radon hurled at him but fell on the floor in doing so. Radon also stared into the brilliant sheet of flame and was briefly blinded. The King, Krager and Kaylea traded blows, a bit of Krager's soul drained away by the king's mighty axe blows as Vesari snuck up behind him, plunging is rapier into the King's back. Radon hurled magic missiles once his sight was restored and eventually the King collapsed to the ground. Kaylea claimed the axe as her own and the party returned to town where Krager worked on repairing it.

The party claimed more territory around Bokken's, building more farms while the Stag's Head Inn set up shop in Port Glory.

Arodus, 4712: The kingdom didn't grow this month as the party consolidated its hold on the land.

Rova, 4713: The kingdom expanded into the forests to the west of Port Glory, expanding to the point where Terjion has acquired the title of Grand Mof. At his suggestion, construction of a shrine to Abadar was constructed, while at the festivals, Radon's magical performance wowed the crowds.

And there we left them, on the anniversary of their entry into the Stolen Lands.

Mikaze,
Something I'm still homebrewing that might work for you:

Animate Juju
Prerequisites: Spell Focus (Necromancy), Knowledge (Religion): 3, one of Command Undead, Turn Undead, Undead Bloodline, Sanguine bloodline
Benefit: Undead you animate are not inherently evil. Mindless undead are neutral and intelligent undead are your alignment. Spells creating undead lose the [Evil] descriptor for you.

After all, why should just juju Oracles get all the fun?

The whole thing says:

Martial Training (Ex): At 1st level, the swashbuckler may select one martial weapon to add to her list of weapon proficiencies. In addition, she may take the combat trick rogue talent up to two times. This ability replaces trapfinding.

They don't get two feats. They get the ability to effectively swap out two Rogue Talents for a combat feat whie most Rogues can only do this once.

Ken,
Here's how the Spellstrike + Spell Combat breaks down

Magus has a spell and an attack from spell combat. This is a full round action, at -2 and is effectively two-weapon fighting where one of the weapons is a spell.

If he uses Spellstrike and casts a touch spell, he can make an attack as part of casting the spell. This is still part of the spell component of Spell Combat.

Either way he gets to make a completely normal attack with his weapon as part of spell combat, albeit with the -2 to hit.

Spellstrike isn't an extra attack with a weapon, it's delivering a touch attack spell via the weapon. Normally when you cast a touch spell, you get to use it immediately. This is the same thing, he's just using a special ability to channel it through his sword.

Also, please, try to use quote tags when you're replying as it's very confusing when what you're quoting isn't shown clearly. If you don't know how to use quote tags, you can click on the button next to *How to format text" when you're writing your post.

Gunslingers get all the deeds. The Trophy Hunter Ranger gets a limited number, but they're the Gunslinger's bread and butter abilities.

Got it. I'dsay that's most likely an oversight. But yeah, it should almost certainly say -4 Dex in there as it's simulating aging which hits all physical abilities.

I'm not so happy with the Elven Archer. It looks like a return to Elves are better than you as it's basically an Achery Ranger with more feats and more abilities. This is after a reading but not an in depth playtesting. I should declare that I'm not a big fon of new base classes that look more like archetypes, or racially restricted base classes anyway, so I may be looking atit more negatively than it deserves.

Also, the Ooze Magic article, while nice and flavourful doesn't include the Ooze Shape III spell. Nowe, this wouldn't be a big thing, if it wasn't a bloodline spell for the ooze sorcerer. At that point it becomes a rather annoying error.

While I'm on a b#@%@ing and moaning train, why would anyone buy a magic acid spalsh arrow when the mundane one does the same damage, is cheaper and works in antimagic fields? Seems totally pointless.

EIDT: Sorry for the very negative tone as I like KQ but this one had less of use to me than normal and a couple of proud nails that I wanted to hammer.

Kevin,
It says apply that penalty to all Int skills, not to Int. This is because the full rebuild rules apply to the base score while the quick rules only apply to the rolls you make. As each two points of ability equals one point on the roll, that's why there's a discrepancy.