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Andoran

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Seems like a good spot for this

Funny. But do not read the comments. Unless you like bile and transphobia.

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The last page of the feats chapter has a lot of reprinted text. Everything after the Weapon Group Adaptability feat seems to be reprinted from the prvious page.

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wraithstrike wrote:
magnuskn wrote:
Uh, actually there are new spells in about every companion book Paizo is releasing. On a monthly schedule. So, unless you completely separate the setting-neutral / Golarion books, there are a ton of spells, items and feats which are very much splintered along the publishing line.
There are not that many. Every 3.5 book had a good number of spells added, and they had a new book every month. Once you take away the CRB there are not that many extra spells. I don't think there are enough to fill a 256 page book.

There are currently 1932 spells in Pathfinder from Paizo sources. 714 of these are from the core rulebook, making more than 1200 or 1.75ish times as many outside the core rulebook as inside it. 663 of these are from the rule book line, splitting it roughly equally between the Rules and Campaign lines.

Note spells cast by the various gods at odd levels are included in this total, so it could be an overestimate.

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Baku,
It is pretty clear at the moment. If its not on your spell list, or specifically added to your spell list by the ability which would make it on your spell list, you can't cast it. That last line I bolded in my reply makes no mention of spells known or spontaneous only.

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Baku Shadescar wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:
Basically what the FAQ does is prevent you from casting spells that are not on your class;s spell list, no matter if you use a prepared or spontaneous casting class.
The FAQ doesn't actually state that. Everything is phrased around spontaneous casters and "spells known". Wizards, Magi, Witches, etc don't have "spells known". They have "spells prepared".

Actually, it does.

Pathfinder Design Team wrote:

FAQ

New Spells Known: If I gain the ability to add a spell that is not on my spell list to my list of spells known, without adding it to my spell list, can I cast it?

No. Adding a spell to your list of spells known does not add it to the spell list of that class unless they are added by a class feature of that same class. For example, sorcerers add their bloodline spells to their sorcerer spell list and oracles add their mystery spells to their oracle spell list. The spell slots of a class can only be used to cast spells that appear on the spell list of that class.

Bolded for emphasis. Not on the spell list, not castable. End of.

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Actually, it was closer to 50 as I've just had a quick count along my shelf and there's 40 hardbacks there excluding setting specific stuff and bestiaries.
However, at the current rate,this means Pathfinder will hit the same rate of rules hardbacks in, what, 2030? Truly this is an urgent problem we need to deal with immediately.

Andoran

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Or possibly just "Here are rulings that are issues, here's why, could you look at them" which contains no possibility of rudeness as it's just talking about the decision not the people making it.
For example, the SLA ruling causes early entry into prestige classes for Aasimars. Possibly an unintented consequence, possibly not. But it is often mentioend and might need a new discussion, even if the same decision is made in the final analysis.
Or the "General rule for Sorcerer bloodlines" that is being used for the, IMO, daft proposition that Clerics can now spontaneously cast cure spells using wizard spells. Again, probably an unintented consequence that might need to look at the wording of the ruling to clarify and tighten the intent.

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And another

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And another

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I suspect it goes:
The Earl of Sandwitch->
The Earl of Sammitch->
The URL of Sammitch (pronounced Earl)->
An url that spells out sammich.
Took me a few tries to figure it out. Then I rememberd Ga\ry's an algorithm and looked at it hyperliterally.

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Just going to leave this and this here.

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As far as we know, the ACG classes are now separate classes, so no, you could not use archetypes of antoher class.

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And Here

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Interesting approach to carbon sequestration there, Sissyl and Andrew R. I hadn't thought of growing straw and turning it into men to capture carbon before. Good plan. Hope it goes well for you both.

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BigDTBone,
Apologies for misunderstanding you. Naturally, I fele my interpretarion of modifies is the 'common sense' ruling. This was not how you were using the term, so I misunderstood you.

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BigDTBone wrote:
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
I don't play PFS, but I've been on the boards long enough to know they have a "common sense" clause for GMs.
Everyone is on the "common sense" train. I get it, wizards don't cast curatives in pathfinder/dnd tradition. New players don't necessarily know that. That is the extent of the common sense argument. I don't feel you should have to have knowledge over the history of dnd and its traditions in order to read the rules.

Actually, it isn't. The extent of the common sendse argument is that spontaneously replacing a spell is not the same as modifying spellcasting. You disagree with this premise, but it's still there and underpins the other arguments. Of course as common sense is so rare it should be considered a super-power, common sense isn't necessarily that helpful.

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BigTBone (and others),
As you say, it can be interpreted both ways. Thus the alternative reading is also a valid way of reading it. So in PFS, you will get some table confusion, but as Wraithstrike has pointed out, probably not much as most people do not necessarily share your interpretation of the word 'modifies' (and yes, I think that pretty much is what the difference boils down to).
If a Fighter drops his sword and hits someone with an axe, he has modified his attack, but the sword isn't modified. To those on the "No" side, this is the anaalogy that fits, rather than the one you use. As this has gone round and round, and your summation of the reasons for disagreement is pretty good, I'm not sure further discussion is going to be productive. For reference, I am in camp 3 (Not RAW, not RAI) with reasons 1 (Spontaneous Casting is not 'modifying a spell'), 3 (It'sa Cleric ability not a caster ability), and 4 (It just doesn't make sense that way) in order of priority

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Uhm, published 6, 1 retracted. That seems to support Meatrace's case that you don't retract everything if the person lies about qualification if the rest of the data and paper is good.

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And another

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No idea, but as it would need the current money to be less than 3% of the the total, it shouldn't be hard for you to find out. Why should I do the research to support your position when I think it's wrong?

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Sissyl,
Why? Even if we do, you'll dismiss them.

However, for you to be correct, as 97% of scientists are on one side (32 1/3* the number on the other), for it to make economic sense to go for the climate change dollar rather than the skeptic one, they would need to be spending at least 32 1/3* to make it more lucrative. Instead, they're spending at just under 3*, so unless every other source of money in cliamte science equates to 10 times the money we know about and literally no other source of money goes to climate change denial, your position doesn't make sense economically.

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And again

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And again

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ID of the above link

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Not an RPG but at a board games club. Playing Rattus with the expansion and when several crescent and stars came up on the rats in a row, one person playing said,loudly, just as everyone else hit a pause in the coversation, "Kill all the Muslims!" Fortunately, as she was Algerian, she got away with it.

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Kirth,
Regardless of what you're trying to do, it really is coming across as an attempt to defend rape. I'm sure that's not anything close to your intent, but that is what it's sounding like in the context of this thread.

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Lincoln Hills wrote:
Noh Masuku wrote:
...I'm beginning to think a lot of these artists were bottle fed...

Hey, the artists draw and paint what they are commissioned to draw and paint. When the customer says "draw cherries," you draw cherries. When the customer says "draw muskmelons," you draw muskmelons. And then you get paid.

I agree that it gets out of control in some cases, but let's not blame the innocent employees. ;)

In response to previous queries, Pazio have said "Artists like drawing boobs". Apparently, the images do not always line up well with the intention, and sometimes not with the specification. Apparently, where not specified, artists tend to draw muskmelons to use your imagery.

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Banhammer requested

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Liz Courts wrote:
Jessica Price wrote:

EDIT: Gninjaed by Liz.

This thing...I do this thing. :D

Fixed the initial typo for you.

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Another

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Urgathoa + Nethys = One complete body and a corpse... Just thought i'd throw that out there. UrgaNeth the OTP?

Different halves. You'd get a corpse with half a brain and one person with a gammy leg. Of course, they'd also be half female, and so likely very confused and whichever gender they were, half of their genitalia would either be on fire with magic or rotting off so not necessarily a great outcome.

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There is a Rite Publishing's In the Comopany of Medusa which, if you allow it as the GM, gives rules for Medusa PCs.

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Out of the doorway the bullets rip.

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Another one bites the dust.

Huh. Gonna get you, too.

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And another one down.

And another one down.

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Dum dum dum, another one bites the dust.

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49th verse, same as the first

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Another

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And again.

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They're back!

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New one

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Vod,
As you're the one making the assertive claim that they did, do you have evidence for that?

As for the burden of these laws? Don't blame me, take it up with the judge.
Link to ruling in WI

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Ivan,
The problem is that just cheesecake is boring.
The male heroes have a variety of body shapes and skin with the near naked being an aberration (Namor). Female superheroes have pretty much one body type with porn star breasts and hips narroewer than their head, spine-breaking poses and could wear dental floss to increase the surface area covered. The exceptions (Current Miss Marvel, Kitty Pryde, Big Barda) are dressed normally. See the difference? On one side the sexy is the exception, on the other the non-sexy is the exception. And people are getting a bit fed up with that discrepancy.

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Vod,
So, if it stops one and disenfranchies 10 it's worth it? How about 100? 1000? 10000? At what point is disenfranchising people too high a cost for you? Because at the moment, you're stopping at most a few hundred in person frauds,which wouldn't change any result in any state whatsoever even if they were all in one place, and putting 10000 people off the rolls in places. Is that acceptable to you, especially when those excluded overwhelmingly vote one way?

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Usagi Yojimbo wrote:
Orfamay Quest wrote:


As a simple example, name any organized left-wing hate groups.
I don't know about organized, but I once saw Comrade Anklebiter shoot a bougie in Reno- just to watch him die.

Obviously a lie. Even Anklebiter has more taste than to go to Reno.

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Jessica Price wrote:
Stephen Radney-MacFarland wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:
(As an aside.. people seem really excited about seeing me get punched.. not sure how to feel about that...)
I'm not sure how you should feel either...I feel great about it. :)
I'm sure the children feel great about it, too.

I'm sure they do. Childrean are vicious little...darlings.

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Tormsskull wrote:
Paul Watson wrote:

Tormsskull,

Ok, name me a cartoon that looks anything like the second and third link, please? Really can't see it. You might have a point with more stylised, but cartoony? Nope, not seeing it.

I wasn't thinking of a particular cartoon in mind, just using the descriptor as a way of differentiating between realistic and that style. And cartoony is not a slam; I still watch cartoons and like many of them. But for my purposes of trying to bring the campaign world to life, the newer art in the non-realistic style doesn't work as well as the older art.

Paul Watson wrote:
Also, most of the illustrations in the books were not of that quality, they were black and white line drawings.
That's true; there were a lot of simple drawings back then as well. They had a certain charm to them though. I was looking back through some Hollow World materials and Ravenloft materials recently - the imagery was great.

True, but you're comparing the rare full page piece of art to the more common insert art today. Comparing the Elmore pieces and the like with the chapter breaks today, and the inserts with the line art would be fairer. I still don't think your comparison really holds.

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Tormsskull,
Ok, name me a cartoon that looks anything like the second and third link, please? Really can't see it. You might have a point with more stylised, but cartoony? Nope, not seeing it.
Also, most of the illustrations in the books were not of that quality, they were black and white line drawings. The current set are a massive improvement in general, even if the full page illutrations of the past were fantastic. They were also rarer compared to the multiplicity of full colour images we have in PF books.

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And another one http://paizo.com/people/abhinavshastriji

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Ok, new analogy:
Your best friend is recorded by one of their friends saying how much of a jerk you are and how they can't stand you and only hang around you because you're rich and they want some money. The person who recorded it then plays it to you. Do you treat your best friend differently? Or do you ignore the recorded conversdation as it shouldn't have been recorded?

I think that's about the same level of legality, no? No one is saying his racist speech should be illegal or that he should get into any legal trouble for it. But we are saying that if people become aware that you're a racist a&$$$$!, they have the right to treat you like a racist a!%#&@+ and distance themselves from you to prevent you damaging their brand. Do you disagree with that premise?

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