I was, in fact, that Aasimar Oracle of the Heavens.
I'd only used that 'special ability' once before, in a city chase to 'jump' to the next level of the 'snakes & ladders' chase map.
Was nice to actually use it not just once, but TWICE in a scenario! Had great fun playing. Certainly had that sense of foreboding with those circles of 'protection'! (Thanks Sior for running)
Unusually, most of our damage came from a 'party member'.
Lu Shu made 4th lvl at end of that. Now looking forwards to her faction (Lantern Lodge) retirement scenario.
My char is an Aasimar Oracle of Life (Fav Class bonus to Channeling). with one lvl of Cleric with (think) Sun & Healing Domains.
She's currently Oracle 6/Clr 1 of Sarenrae. Cha 20
Channel 6/Day for 5D6. 8/Day for 1D6
That's 38D6 channelling per day at 7th lvl! :P
Looking a creating an Aasimar Oracle of Nature, using this feat.
The variations in this discussion suggest that we get an official ruling on this. Both sides of the debate have valid points.
One thing not mentioned is the Favoured Class Ability for Aasimars*, As a 4th lvl Oracle, I'd get an equivalent 6th lvl Druid Companion. So I can have a companion with more HD than myself?
* Assimar Oracles can add 1/2 Oracle lvl to any Revelation they're using. Animal Companion is one such Revelation.
I take it we get companions as per equivalent Druid HD? EG, I use 6th lvl Druid table for my Oracle 4? This includes HD, Feats, Stat increases, BAB etc?
I've got a whole bunch of PFS characters,and completely agree about getting wands.
Even as an arcane caster I usually spend the first 6 Prestige on wands; Wand of CLW, plus two other wands so I'm never out of spells.
Wand of Magic Missiles, even at 1st Caster Level has saved the party on more than one occasion. Wands of Mage Armour have freed up a spell slot as well.
One point that was mentioned was never put too many points into one stat. All very nice to have two extra bonus spells at 1st lvl, but how are you going to survive?
Even when Synthesists were allowed I never dropped any physical stat below 13. (My Con as Summoner was actually better than my 'Synthesist' at first level)!
One last thing, if you can, 'playtest' you characters in non-pfs games or campaigns. If something doesn't work you haven't lost a PFS character. Your local gamestore or club might run Pathfinder scenarios, or you can join an online group.
If Iammars uses it, then there's at least two players thinking of using/using it in our online group.
Still wondering abouut the perma concealment thing, would like an 'official' answer.
As for overcoming concealment? Simple - Truestrike! :P
My wandtsriking magus with wand Truestrike in off hand. Mistmail in mist form is an irrelevance!
Not sure about the duration thing. According to what's been said, it's a PERMAMNENT concealment bonus, since it requires a command or specific set of circumstances to dismiss.
Note: Sleeping is NOT one of thos circumstances!
I think this item needs clarification, otherwiase it's far too powerful for price given. It's far cheaper than Cloak of Displacement, for example.
As for "Basically you will see some GMs give knee-jerk reactions to something with which they are not familiar. Your best bet is to make it public like you are doing now to minimize this. Likewise have rationale and reasoning against these weird conclusions to which they might leap.
If the judge isn't going to listen and is being a jerk about it, then they are likely to do similar in other situations. Call it an early warning sign to bail,"
Hardly an encouraging answer. Suggesting that the Player is often right whilst GM's have 'knee-jerk' reactions isn't necessarily accurate. Scott young had the best answer.
We need some authoritative advice on this. We may all be seasoned roleplaying veterans. I look forward to Paizo's official answer.
Yeah, I know. Not everyone's as 'Balanced' as me! LOL
Just feel that sonme of these changes would't be necessary if they'd sorted them when the new classes/archetypes first came out. So much time, love & effort lost.
Ah well. Realise I'm not the only one spending hours redoing characters....
Jonathan Cary wrote:
Except that the main building for Conception (large UK convention), WiFi may be blocked. WiFi in the Chalets is charged at £5/hr (I think).
And not all of us can afford the luxury of a laptop. I carry my stuff on a USB stick so someone else wil have to use their Laptop to read it.
Then there is the issue that many of the games are played in seperate chalets. So no, it's doubtful we'd be able to contact someone for the details.
Are we saying that new races from ARG aren't going to have stat blocks or sidebars in scenarios?
As someone with 4 Synths (not optimised stats), I'm understandably not a happy bunny. (13 chars in total).
Admittedly, one of them was just down to stat maths, but I've never used him.
The others were just down to concepts.
Sian - the Poledancing Synth/Paladin of Shelyn. Originally an arcanist converted to Paladinhood to fight the Evil she sees in the world
Lu Shu Tian. Someone who worships the spirits of her ancestors (not Gods). Ancestors 'grant' her abilities, so she wears her 'brand' with pride.
That sort of thing.
So, we can change our stats if the changes radically alter our chars?
Lastly, can't understand disallowing these archetypes whilst opening up far more powerful races from the latest splat book.
A tall, slender young woman light auburn hair and bright blue eyes enters.
Older women turn their backs in dusgust as the young woman enters, seemingly clad only in a bikini and a cloak. Some men, ogling silently , are brought sharply back to reality with an elbow to the ribs.
Much gossip and rumour precede this young lady. Former ballet dancer at the greatest theatres, now a Paladin of Shelyn. Her Holy symbol nestling in her cleavage.
She is only known a "Sian". What arrogance, not even having a surname or Title!
Wild rumours surround Sian as tightly as her cloak against the cold wind. Some even say she was in the winning team of the Ruby Phenix Tournament! Many refuse to believe it.
An immaculately dressed Gnome enters the bar. Slips off his gloves and dusts down the chair before sitting on it.
As he takes off his hat, placing it nearby, a symbol of one of the local 'Families' can be seen faintly glowing on his forehead.
The gnome slips a small card to the waiter who takes his order for a fine red wine. A few minutes later the waiter approaches the others with a bottle of the finest wine in a silvered ice bucket, and hands them a business card "Romano Vedecci".
Romano looks across, raises his glass and nods...
Been seeing some Magus/Gunslinger mixes recently, but can't see how they use Spell Combat & Spell Strike?
"....must have one hand free (even if the spell being cast does not have somatic components) while wielding a light or one-handed melee weapon in the other hand".
"...he can deliver the spell through any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack".
According to that he can't use either ability through his guns. Is there a feat/ability/prestige class that allows him to use them with a fierarm?
CRPG I'm definitely in favour of. MMO probably not.
It's playing Bard's Tale & the Forgotton Realms series on my C64 in the mid 80's that got me into tabletop gaming in the first place. (Just a few sessions about 1985, then regular groups from 1991 onwards).
Anyone remember the Commodore 64, and it's successor the Amiga? Still got the Amiga, withthe memory upgrade & extra Floppy Drive. :)
Prob have to check timezones & the other PFS games, but Im interested. Raphael (friend of mine in the South who's used to wierd timezone gaming) might also be interested. (We're in UK).
I'm looking at the Tiefling (without the Fiendish Sorcery thing, so 10 pts).
Tired of his life as a pitfighter in Cheliax, he's 'bought' his way out and moved to Absalom for the freedom it grants.
I'll just be using PFS legal stuff, but may 'stray' a bit with the Traits.
Scarface Bladebound Magus
I can run up a char sheet on Foxit & email it to you. 150 GP starting cash?
Prefer the Synthesist Archetype
I've always been drawn to Fighter Mages ever since 2nd Ed,. Currently got a Synthesist/Paladin (Hospitaler) mix going,and is doing well.
Currently Synth 2/Hosp 3, but not sure if next level is going to be Hsopitaler, (then go pure Synth rest of way), or take Synth, taking last level of Hospitaler later.
The game was advertised publicly, on a public server, asking members of the public to play a game. Those successful in joining games have their aliases publicly listed.
If the GM had just asked for players using non-core builds to contact him then this question wouldn't have arisen.
I've had my question answered officially. Can we please move on....?
Thanks for your views everyone.
Phew - Hot Topic or what?
My original question only arose when I felt excluded from a game because the GM hated a class I play. Then got put down because I complained about the public exclusion.
The exclusion came shortly after I played a Synthesist in a couple of games. So felt very targetted to me. Apart from this one issue the other GM's/Players have been nothing but friendly and encouraging, which is why I'm still there.
Personally I've always suggested the private email invites, or just asking those with non-core builds to contact GM privately re their builds.
That way we have a positive, 'inclusive' perception to the outside world.
Can GM's ban classes from games they advertised on open forums?
I'm not talking where players got together privately, but open forums where a GM states they're running a game online at certain time, and openly asks for players. Then adds "Summoners need not apply"
This goes against the inclusiveness idea, and has started a heated debate.
I didn't realise that this was such a can of Worms!
The feature it was emulating (channel energy) is usable by 1st lvl Oracles (Life Mystery).
My point was that though I might persoanlly allow it in a home game, it is a tad broken, and wasn't sure if there was a ruling or clarification for PFS. (Or indeed, if PFS had an errata I'd missed).
The other thread listed seems to be the proper place for debate. (Thanks PFCGB)
Thanks everyone for the input
To my mind the 'Mystery' is a class feature being emulated, However UMD is specific about the way your 'effective' level is worked out.
Same way a Bard can emulate the class feature of being able to cast Bless Weapon, and so use a wand.
But still -20th level? Huh? In combat as well? How can an 11th lvl Bard get 40+ on UMD in combat? Guess that's my real question.
Saw that, but isn't that the entire purpose of UMD?
Having checked the UMD rules (should have checked before - oops my bad), he needs to get 40+ on UMD to get that 20th lvl Oracle ability. Not sure how he gets that. 9 Ranks, plus 3 for Class Skill, Skill Focus for plus 3, Charisma 22 for extra +6. Trait +1. Total +22.
You can't take 20 on UMD right? (Might be able to take 10 as part of class ability).
Recently played with an 11th lvl Bard, really tricked out for UMD.
He had a Ring of Revelation, so he could UMD and Channel Pos Energy as a 20th Lvl Oracle!
I can't really see how - since technically the rings themselves have CL listed.
Surely he could only Channel Energy (using UMD) as an Oracle of the listed CL of the crafter of the ring?
Thinking about getting this ring for one of my chars, presumably I'll be limited to channelling as per Oracle CL as I mentioned?
Actually Sian is a Paladin (Hospitaler) of Shelyn now. A normally gentle minded attractive dancer, usually only barely dressed, has an inner strength belying her soft beauty.
Imagine a stage dancer that normally entertains the crowds at poular venues, sometimes part of a dance group on a music video, moonlighting as some strong fighting super heroine? That's Sian.
(Day Job Pole dancer, though she is a Paladin)!
Been playing a True Neutral char for a while now, but been playing her as 'mostly' Lawful, and always Good.
Can I change alignment to LG and get it signed off? This is NOT a Barbarian/Monk multiclass thing, but will affect my choice of my new class now I've levelled. (Human Synthesist 2, just made 3rd Lvl).
Is there some way I can spend Prestige Awards to do this, or do I just need a GM to sign it off? Still keeping my current Faction (Taldor).
(If it matters was thinking of going Paladin for various reasons).
Just looking for a simple yes or no, possibly some clarification if PA's are involved.
Ran it at Tier 1-2 online, no deaths, but not from lack of trying. It never occurred to me until then how many HPs Synthesists have.
I was that Synthesist. Round one, big hit. Took me out for rest of combat. Managed to get off a Daze spell which managed to finish him in the end.
Dwarf Fighter was down to big negatives thanks to Shocking Graasp crit. (Plenty of those). He went down to -13 HP, failed to stabilise until -15 HP!
Thanks to Iammars for running the game.
Gods & magic states:
Adepts, bards, rangers, sorcerers, and
Do they get this in PFS?
Yes, I was aware there were three boons, but weren't told what they were. (Or even shown them). Since we all had the other 'holiday' boons, I thought it was a better version of those.
I would expect there to be some at Conception, but how many, and how will they be distributed? Can't remember specifics, but don't we have 80-100+ tables of PFS?
Lastly, how will I treat the boon on any table I GM? There's no info on the 'allowable resources' section. Are the full details on the Chronicle itself? Heard from US player that one of the boons already on EBay for $50!
Lack of info sows confusion - in this case major imbalances as a few players may have access to none-core races, whilst GM's kept in the dark.
Will someone please update the 'Allowable Resources' bit to include the info?