Weird question: male gamers role-playing female characters...how do you handle speaking "in character?"
My players give me a hard core stink eye if they even suspect coddling is going on. We play a more Kobold and knaves sim style so death is fairly common. A few players get attached to their PCs and adding hero points has helped allow me to keep the gloves off. The PCs have a fair shot at staying alive even if the dice are against them. I change it up on the fly sparingly when I feel it will help which is not often.
Dragonchess Player wrote:
Wouldn't things be better off just playing with folks who have similar preferences and play-style? Using sub-systems to try and force players into a certain style seems arbitrary.
Scott Betts wrote:
Having more ways to interact doesn't have to mean turning the game into Assassin's creed. If the game centers around being a badass killing machine that will really be a shame.
I think it would be wise for PF to continue the way it has. That means supporting adventure paths and modules as well as rule books. System bloat is not mandatory. You do not have to use any splat book. We didn't use any for 8 years with 3/3.5.
PF2 will come around someday but dont expect it tomorrow. Paizo is still amking good money on PF and despite forum doomsaying its quite popular.
Sometimes it is just you. Good for you to recognize this and not let it manifest into bad gaming behavior. Instead in a few months you will be posting about your new fun game instead of posting in any one of the numerous my GM is an ass threads.
Life is too short for no fun gaming. I see two possibilities when I am in this situation. First, maybe this particular adventure is not good for me. Maybe I will bow out until the next one or the group starts over. Second, our play-styles are just not compatible. I politely bow out, no need to be a jerk, sometimes folks are just a mis-match.
I guess the next question is, would Paizo buy them even if they had the chance? I am not sure why they would. Right now they are doing great with their own line of products. They would have to put up a ton of cash to license D&D (no way Hasbro would sell) and form a team to work on D&D stuff. Not seeing the upside here. Sure D&D fans of settings might love Paizo picking up the license, but once again what is in it for Paizo?
The dredd remake probably is not a good comparison, as that had a hard R rating and definitely didn't feel like it was catering to PG-13 sci-fi action crowd. It was probably closer to the original robocop than it is to the remake.
That was the point I was trying to make. Dredd is in the style probably more like Robocop than the reboot will be. Also, why do people keep saying "remake" of Dredd? The Stallone movie wasn't the original material. Hell it wasn't even close to the original material.
mythic evil lincoln wrote:
We play other games besides Pathfinder, and I feel this has really honed our expectations of what kinds of campaigns Pathfinder is best suited to.
This can not be overstated. Nothing teaches you more about gaming then trying different systems. Too many people try and pound the square peg in a triangle hole. D&D being the big dog often receives just that treatment.
Now people are a different story. A good open group can be molded to fit well together. Most of my gaming group are casuals. However, this one guy and I are pretty hardcore about our hobby. We also differ a good bit on gaming preferences. Our willingness to share our passions and argue our ways allowed us to develop an appreciation for one another as a gamer.
I think all gamers need a certain level of willingness to accept the social contract and to compromise for the benefit of the group. Most people figure into this camp and games proceed as usual. However, there are a couple of types through arrogance or ignorance can derail games simply through stubbornness. These two types just dont get it or just dont care. You can be all inclusive and these types will continue to break the game. There is a point where you reach incompatible play-styles and inclusiveness wont help.
Scott Betts wrote:
Yo, Scott Betts, I know you trying to point out the irony of Hama's post and Imma let you finish, but I hate DA2 too.
Scott let me start by saying I love your posts. You are able to make the soberest of points in a sea of insanity that is the internets. Man you just have a certain panache when you post that I cant help but love even when I disagree with you. However, saying that "I hate Bioware" somehow encourages some mental midget to send death threats to actual people is a bit of a stretch. A stretch that can be made I'll give you that but am I really supposed to worry about every dumb comment I make on the internets?
I worry about mine own. If I am sitting down with family or friends and they say something ridiculous about threatening somebody you better believe I'm going to correct that crap. When it comes to the net though am I really responsible for everyone out there? If I post "fire is cool" and some guy burns down a hospital am I to blame for encouraging that?
You have to admit even though Hama's post are often dripping with emotional vitrol, he started this very thread to say "here is the line."
You can also adjust your expectations when attending a PFS session. I dont expect to have a custom time with my best mates in the ideal setting when I go to PFS. I just take it as a very causal game. I tend to like meeting people though and keep it firmly in the back of mind that this is one session and it never has to happen again.
On the flip side, attending PFS can help you meet members of the gaming community. You will find like minded gamers and those whose play style clashes with your own. Having a pool of gamers that you like to be around is invaluable. You know who to avoid and who to ask if you ever need to start up another group. I am fortunate enough to have a very active and large PFS community your experience may vary.
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
This plus......why oh why did it have to be Keanu?
Yeah I keep hearing this but we somehow keep playing with 15 pt buy. Current group has a paladin and monk. No stats at 7 for anyone.
I think launching into unfamiliar territory with an AP is a bad idea. I would probably run a few one shots or modules first. You are going to need to find that common ground with the group. Find out what works for you and them. Your players might be game now to try your tastes but if they think its bad it wont end well. Better to find out if y'all taste is compatible or not than starting a long campaign. My two coppers.
Rewarding XP unevenly is another part of the plague of XP for me. Players will do anything to get ahead, even when it doesn't make sense. I cant stand building encounters for uneven parties either, which is part of why I also use point buy in PF. Fortunately, our attendance is really good so I don't need to provide incentive to show up.
My version probably wouldn't do well. I'd make the movie like the Cube. Adventuring party is in a dungeon you dont know why but it doesn't matter. The place is a damn meat grinder. Occasionally, the PCs meet other bands of adventurers trying to get out. These encounters can help replenish the diminishing party size from the fantasy vietnam dungeon crawl. Fill the rooms with deadly puzzles, traps, and encounters and go. Bam, there is my D&D movie.
I know that wont happen but a guy can dream. One thing they could do though is get away from orcs. Use kobolds, trogs, anything besides fricken orcs!