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RPG Superstar 6 Season Star Voter, 7 Season Dedicated Voter, 9 Season Star Voter. Pathfinder Society Member. 3,804 posts (3,905 including aliases). No reviews. No lists. No wishlists. 2 Pathfinder Society characters. 7 aliases.


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I think its important to recognize that an old school playstyle isnt married to early game design. If you were to compare a recent OSR product with original D&D I think you would see the advancement. Those crappy game design limitations gave way to innovation and modern gaming. There is still some great inspiration from that early era no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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Like the movie Cube but with monsters too.

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Old school to me means gaming playstyles and sensibilities of earlier editions of the game. Over the years and editions the game has evolved and game element focuses have changed for both designers and players. I think there are certainly queues that will help indicate if a person leans towards old school style or not.

Highly lethal games (save or die is A-ok)
Dungeon crawling survival focus
Combat as war
Rulings over rules

I believe 5E to be a pendulum swing back in the direction of many old school sensibilities. The interesting thing is how they reconcile those sensibilities with modern design and tastes. The game is still evolving and eventually the pendulum wing swing again towards a more combat as sport rudimentary rule system. Though along the way you really cant completely separate old from New.


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Kalindlara wrote:
thorin001 wrote:
Why do people think that this is okay to do with skill checks? You would not be okay with it if it was for attack rolls or saves.

One of my GMs actually does a lot of this. I just spam save-or-die effects.

I'd leave, but that would just result in another night spent at home alone...

Sounds reasonable.....

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Try it before you drop it. If you feel out of your element then Id suggest you bring that up at the session end. Personally, I never dive into campaigns with strangers and do some screening for playstyle before engaging. Typically one shots or PFS scenarios combined with meetup.com type evenings. Food for thought for next time. I hope things work out for you.

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I dont have an issue with modifying the DC as player or GM as long as it is situational and used sparingly. If it was becoming a pattern of shutting down a particular PCs talent, I'd probably speak up about it. Respectfully and constructively of course.

These types of things should be discussed as a group. The GM could be unaware of the impact or the PC might have stumbled onto something that makes the game a bit trivial. If a GM insists on ramping up challenges or shutting down talents frequently without good reason as a playstyle, I may excuse myself from their game. If a player insists on becoming a hyper specialized hammer and treat every game challenge as a nail, I'll choose not game with them. Ultimately, it comes down to playstyle, and I dont have time for folks who are inflexible.

Some folks might want a straight up RAW interpretation of the game and thats A-ok too. I would advise you to be aware that folks might differ on the subject and you may have to find some common ground. Usually folks can work it out and get back to the fun but occasionally the grounds too far to cover. Dont get upset, dont get incendiary, just be real about it.


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I dont worry too much about what stats mean. I keep them under the hood and they serve only mechanical purposes. I let my players roleplay however they see fit without forcing my idea of pretty/ugly or smart/stupid on them. Obviously, I would call foul if somebody tried play a genius with low Int and expected actual genius results in gameplay. Fortunately for me, my players have never tried such shenanigans so it has never come up.

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Milo v3 wrote:


Why would simply being immortal change someone core identity so completely?

I think this is the heart of the issue right here. Some may see becoming a lich as simply gaining an undead template and an evil alignment. Perhaps im too hung up on much of the write ups, but I see it as fundamentally changing the individual on a core level. At the point of becoming a lich there is a transformation, a severing from mortal being. A lich no longer has hunger, fear, or passion. A lich is basically an echo of the person they were and as time goes by less and less of their humanity will remain. Ultimately, a lich will become nothing more than a collector of tangible elements like rudimentary power. Anything that mattered before transformation will become unimportant and inconsequential to a lich. All that drove a lich previously, has been imprisoned with their soul as cost of immortality. Clearly my take on things influenced by gaming material and literature I have read. So no not memory loss or damage, but loss of empathy and emotional destruction.

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Other peoples addiction is pretty much why I do not have a cell phone smart or otherwise. I find not giving the people I'm with my full attention to be extremely rude. Though modern mores make it A-ok for folks to be on their phones everywhere and at all times, so this is sadly now a thing.

My group typically uses tablets for rules lookup and digital char-sheets. Everyone gets quite into the game. Sure we have moments where one person has the spotlight, but I never felt 80% downtime. Perhaps its because we are older (30's and 50's) and don't relate as well to millennials that we dont experience phone-out at the table. I'm not sure how one goes about combating it.

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Sometimes you cant be on the same page because you are in different books. Over the years I have learned well that getting on the same page is the goal. However, sometimes that goal cant be met or isnt worth the effort for either player(s).

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The original night of the living dead was freaky because of the atmosphere. Romero did a great job with the feelings the film incited. It still was all about the humans and not the monsters. You dont need to make the zombies themselves scary they are immaterial. I dont believe zombie flicks have ever been about the monster and dont think they need to be about the monster. If you want a scary horror film you should pick a different monster IMO.

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Id reconsider assuming 4E fixed all problems with the game but was simply presented poorly. I do think they bungled the launch but it is also reasonable to just simply not enjoy 4E. Some of the things I do not like about 5E came out of 4E era as well as some of its 1,2,3 era influences as well.

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Artemis Moonstar wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Dragoncat wrote:

The AP feels more like a bunch of set-pieces connected through a flimsy plotline instead of a coherent, compelling narrative.

That's been every AP I've played in. Maybe, just maybe, hiring six writers for one AP and then barely tying the seperately written parts together with an editor's plan isn't the best idea for a single story...

Hear hear!

But....

It's time efficient! Gotta confess that.

Assuming it's not a 3.5 AP that is

I confess: I want to see Paizo re-release their 3.5 APs and modules for their PF ruleset! Some of us don't have the time nor the inclination to modify it ourselves!

I know they claim "collector's value" and that they'd lose money, but... Come on, really? Sure, don't do another "ultimate collector's edition" like with RotRL (which was just... A bad idea, a bad, bad idea. Cool, but from a marketing stand point, very bad idea). They can't, on the other hand, tell me they'd lose money putting out-of-print adventure paths back into print via Print-On-Demand. Might not make as much of a profit, but I know a lot of people who'd saw off their left foot for updated APs.

I ran Curse no problems the updating is a cinch to do on the fly. I wouldn't wait around for the update you'll need a cane or a rascal by the time its here.

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memorax wrote:


To use myself I had no clue who dream theater was. I never heard their music or even heard of them as a band until you told me about them.

Run memorax its a trap!!

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See I never saw PF as a new edition. Its was a slightly modified 3E to keep making adventures for that type of system as opposed to the alternatives. I got over a decade of experience in making the 3E engine purr, all I needs is some more adventure material. Not sure what all the hullabaloo is about editions. Clearly, YMMV.

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The making out during the movie is a Jerry Seinfeld joke folks.

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Death is entirely up to the group. There is no should be about it.


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Malwing wrote:
So.... Is Pathfinder losing money or something? Or are we getting a bunch of threads about a second edition for yucks?

Nope, just the same folks sayin the same stuff over and over.

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Squirrel_Dude wrote:


I'd like to see some conversions/reissues of previous APs like Legacy of Fire and Curse of the Crimson throne to Pathfinder as they did with Rise of the Runelords, too.

I got cash money in my hand right now for a Curse of the Crimson Throne anniversary edition!

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Hopefully many years from now. All I need is some more APs.

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I dont like Imagine Dragons or mumford and sons too stadium rock for my tastes. Mumfords newest album is especially shi!!y.

Krensky wrote:
Considering they sent Weird Al the settings and such to recreate the music track for his parody of Radioactive, yeah they're decent guys.

When Al asked Mark Knopfler if he could parody money for nothing Knopfler said only if he could play lead guitar on the track.....and did. Beyond decent.

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Im pretty sure Greentea has a travel model of soapbox :)

Currently a big fan of Game of Thrones, Ray Donovan, True Detective, Black Sails, Penny Dreadful. Looking forward very much to Walter Blunt and Ash v. Evil Dead. These are some of the best offerings in film/television IMO. They are worth the price to me.


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captain yesterday wrote:

I can get Showtime thru Hulu, but honestly none of the shows they have interest me, same with HBO so i'm good:-)

no idea what Starz is to be honest, never had cable, ever :-)

Not a knock, but judging on your television ravings, premo cable probably isnt for you anyways.

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Serghar Cromwell wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Serghar Cromwell wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Why doesn't anyone ever live in Madison, Wi.

its a pretty big town:-)

I live near Madison.

My favorites are ginger beer, cherry Dr. Pepper, and Sprecher Puma Kola.

Sprecher makes some great stuff all around, i recommend their Hard Root Beer if you can find it, they have it at Knoches Market in Madison, (on Old Middleton road for those familiar with madison) man thats some good stuff, i was actually turned onto it by James Jacobs himself (well maybe not the brand, but actual Hard Root Beer:-D)
Thanks for the tip. I turn 21 in a couple months, so I'll definitely put it on my list of things to try.

Even Sprecher non-alcoholic offerings are great. You can occasionally find them around the twin cities. Its a Wisconsin company I believe.


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Most of what I watch these days is premo cable like HBO/Showtime/Starz so I dont deal with no commercial interruption.

/lights cigar

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I still purchase vinyl and I chose my selections by the album not the single. I feel so alone...

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Aranna wrote:

Tacticslion the odd flavors might be an improper setting for the mixtures on the machines themselves. I have seen this happen with other fountain drinks that came from improperly adjusted machines. You might just be dealing with a bad technician rather than bad machines.

I haven't tried a freestyle machine yet, and the closest one I know about is in Cedar Point amusement park. So it may be some time yet before I get to try it myself.

First few times I chalked it up to technical issues or improper care. At this point, ive been to enough places that the product is just fishy itself. I dont like my soda to be fishy.

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The only people I know from Madison are those who moved to the Twin Cities after college. I been there its nice but its not big.

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captain yesterday wrote:


My daughter is in the whole selfish, what have you gotten for me lately phase, with a touch of you're not the boss of me, I f$~#ing hate it:-(

Suddenly Cheryl Tunt is not so funny lol! Hope she gets out of that phase soon Capn.

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Set wrote:

That Leonard Cohen song, Nevermind, gets stuck in my head. It's awesome and I can listen to it over and over.

Everything else about this season? Meh.

Cohen write that? Because T-Bone Burnett is the one on the recording.

Edit: I stand corrected.

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Krensky wrote:
BigDTBone wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
Pan wrote:
Minor rant time, anyone notice places going to these new fancy touch screen soda fountains? Its like 77 flavors that all come out of the same spigot. So everytime you get a drink its "cherry vanilla diet grape (your pick here) very gross and annoying.

Who thought that was a good idea? Each drink having its own dispenser, while having less flavors, works much better.

what kind of eatery has 77 flavors of soda anyway

(unless you don't literally mean 77 flavors and that was hyperbole)

It's not hyperbole. They have a main corn sweetener, aspartame sweetener, and sucralose sweetener areas. Then flavor packs for every coke product (coke, new coke [read diet], barqs, sprite, high c, mellow yellow, powerade, minute maid), plus flavored syrups (cherry, chocolate, grape, lemon, lime) and an option for dasani (just filtered tap) which you can also add the syrup to.

Winds up being well over 100 options.

And contrary to Pan's statement the flavors don't mix. The Freestyle machine uses a whole series of technologies originally developed for the pharmaceutical manufacturing, compounding, and dispensing industry.

They don't need fiddly adjusting of the water, syrup, and CO2 mix, laborious cleaning (which way more places then you want to believe skimp on), tell Coke and the vendor what they're selling and what needs replacing, and (for the moment) draw customers in with flavors unavailable elsewhere.

They are better in every conceivable way than the old machines. Well, other then having a higher rental fee, but I've been told the total cost is less when accounting for waste, labor, etc.

There is residue left over in the nozzle. You will never get just coke out of them. Ice makers and soda fountains are some of the equipment I review repair quotes for as part of my job. I know how filthy they are, which is why I avoid them mostly altogether.

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Damn sorry to hear that about your KM greentea.


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Dont get the green variety of the soylent it tastes funny.

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Cal I got at least a dozen cans of Dew in my fridge from a party I threw a few months ago. I dont touch the stuff wish I could pass it along. None of my regular guests drink it either. Probably eat through the can before they get drank.

Minor rant time, anyone notice places going to these new fancy touch screen soda fountains? Its like 77 flavors that all come out of the same spigot. So everytime you get a drink its "cherry vanilla diet grape (your pick here) very gross and annoying.

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Most sodas are too sweet. I recommend Dry Rhubarb soda if you want something more crisp with far fewer calories.

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I use hero points to give PCs some lasting power so I can take the gloves off as GM. Its seems to work out for us we have 2-3 deaths on average in the lifespan of an AP. Though technically probably about 12 deaths without HP usage.


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"He once made champagne with old bread, pulpy orange juice, and an empty shampoo bottle....he is the world's most interesting Pan."

I dont always brew mead, but when I do, all I require is water, honey, and yeast. Stay thirsty my friends.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I'm not really a drinker and I hate beer :-)

I dont always find people uninteresting, but when I do, they are teetotalers.

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Nathanael Love wrote:
Or my preferred tactic- start players at low level and then just don't hand out treasure like candy. Wealth by level is a suggestion, not a requirement.

All that does is screw martials even more.


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I dont always drink soda, but when I do, its ginger beer with a shot of whiskey.

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BigDTBone wrote:
DM Beckett wrote:

While its not something I hear much, per se, it is something I encounter. Trying to give 5E a try with some of my home groups didn't have enough support for a table. People said that they had too much investment in PF/PFS. I was able to get a few WoD games going for a bit. Shadowrun, 3.5, MCWoD, Exalted, there just wasn't enough people willing to go to another system, all of which in my opinion are better games/systems.

A few even did outright say only PF.

I am really lucky that my group is willing to follow my lead on game rules. We have been deconstructing pathfinder and replacing it subsystem by subsystem. We are about to replace magic. And I think we are going to give a good portion of the weapon-combat rules a make over.

One issue that may prove interesting is the 5th table member had to leave because of work changes. If/when I advertise to fill his spot will the new comer be open to a heavily adapted pathfinder (basically our own D20 variant), and can I really even advertise it AS pathfinder?

I'd advertise it like you said, "heavily adapted pathfinder (basically our own D20 variant". I'd do a meetup with the potential new recruit and discuss the game and get a feel of them. Don't just take the first person who is interested. Then again that is my advice for any game.

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Dont you look like weird Al? Thats probably enough.

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Do you folks have inside knowledge of the rights contract? Is there a clause saying if a film sucks you give up the rights?

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I liked Conan the destroyer because it felt D&D to me.

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I was loose leaf and cast iron before loose leaf and cast iron were cool.

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Hell with that. I'm an explorer, like Indiana freaking Jones, and also a child of the '70s. I want to need a machete to find my way out.

Thats disgusting...

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Found another one

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Herolab cost some ching but it does alot of the math for you and can do so on the fly. Well some of the gamers at my table say so anyways. I am too cheap to spring for Herolab.

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