Bitter Thorn wrote:Freehold DM wrote:Healers and Ranger are my personal favorites, but I love me some rogue too just the way they are. My only complaint with healer types is the lack of skill points. I really like having a broad range of skills. Traits or class dipping let me diversify my skills, but I find it all but impossible to improve them with a cleric's skill points. I really liked the 3.5 cloistered cleric.
Alignment in general has come under fire as alignment-light mmo games have increased in popularity and class abilities are seen as party resources- if the party needs the paladins abilities in a situation that the paladin wouldn't enter as a character, that's tough nuggies: the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the individual.
I'm running into issues with complaints about rogues in my kingmaker game along with complaints about finesse weapons and rapiers specifically, the idea of a single class having so many skills and being able to do so much damage through what some see as clever rule exploits is causing some friction. People seem to either want the rogue more or less powerful-noone is happy with the way things are currently.
Note that this is only my experience and opinion.
I hear that. I played a Cleric in my first PF game, and really enjoyed the class, but the lack of skill points was frustrating. I ended up not putting any points into KN (Religion), which made for some funny impromptu roleplaying of trying to make up religious practices on the fly (which no one believed anyways because I also had no skill points for Bluff :P ).
Playing a Human Wizard currently. Now I have ALL the skill points! :D
Yep, that's another problem for me - I don't like playing humans. So if I get stuck with a class with low skill points, I can't just get the racial bonus to make up for it. And if a favored class option (which we no longer tie to race) is super appealing, like extra spells known for spont-casters... yeah.
Thankfully we as a group have bumped all classes' skills per level up by two, so there's less stress there.