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Count me VERY interested!

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Understood. Thanks for the swift response!

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Half of it's not on your approved class list, but I was envisioning a Brawler(Shield Champion)/Magus(Skirnir) with a sort of She-Ra flavor/aesthetic to her could be really fun. How do you feel about that?

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Ugh. Work was really bonkers this week and I just don't have all of Puckmuch done in time.

Thanks for the opportunity! The random generation was really fun.

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BC4Realz wrote:
BC4Realz wrote:
Orannis wrote:

@GM BC, I have a question...

I have sort of fallen in love with the idea of Big Puckmuch carrying Puckmuch around in a backpack like Master Blaster, but am fuzzy on what sort of mechanical impact that would have. My desire is solely to build on the hilarious concept, but mulling it over I am concerned that it would enable unintentional advantages. What are your thoughts?

Let me ponder how it would work. You are obviously going for a biped, which makes it being a mount a little awkward rules wise.

Need to do some reading and research.

So I have put some thought into it...I think you could craft carrier harness for your Eidolon to wear. You probably could have asked one of the craftsmen in your tribe to do it, but you had the temerity to write down your request, like some full of themselves tall pinkskin.

Each level you can explain in character what you are trying to do (I want my arms to be more free), and then make a craft (woodwork) or craft (leatherwork) to work on and improve the harness. The results of this check will determine stats of the harness like toughness, hp, and it's restrictiveness {eg if it gives you an ACP to skills (most skills subject to an ACP would be moot when you are in the harness anyways), a spell fail percentage, or any kind of penalty on attack rolls}. Your Eidolon would be subject to the ACP and dex to armor penalties that are given by encumberment. Also, if the craft check is really bad there may be penalties to him as well because it doesn't fit right or something like that.

If you can explain how different craft checks would help with that then they may...

I think that sounds extremely fair as well as a ton of fun!

I have hit a hiccough, though, in that I'm starting to realize I may absolutely need Big Puckmuch to carry my stuff for me, which would mean a backpack full of gear instead of a backpack full of goblin. :-/

Much as I'd love to say "screw mechanical viability, let's do the fun stuff!"... Carrying capacity is a difficult hurdle to ignore.

I'll futz around with things and see how it comes up.

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Ah! Inspiration has struck me!

Capsule Concept: Changeling Metamorph Alchemist who delved into metamorphic alchemy in an attempt to try and prevent the inevitable calling from her hag mother.

I like this. I will ponder it more, and if I still like it I'll get going on it when I'm off work.

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Oh! You got this up sooner than I expected.

What to play. Hmmm. Hmmmm. Welp, Monday is my Friday so I'll have plenty of time tomorrow to cook something up!

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Dotting the hell out of this. Will almost certainly submit an occult class, or a non-occult class with one of the occult archetypes.

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@GM BC, I have a question...

I have sort of fallen in love with the idea of Big Puckmuch carrying Puckmuch around in a backpack like Master Blaster, but am fuzzy on what sort of mechanical impact that would have. My desire is solely to build on the hilarious concept, but mulling it over I am concerned that it would enable unintentional advantages. What are your thoughts?

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Looks like the RNG really likes Goblins. Starting to think it might have a sense of humor! :P

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First, some HP rolls for my gobby:

HP!: 3d8 + 6 ⇒ (7, 4, 7) + 6 = 24

And his eidolon:

More HP!: 3d10 + 3 ⇒ (4, 3, 8) + 3 = 18 Ah! There it is, there's the "eff-you" from the RNG

Here's the "rough draft" of Puckmuch:

The Greatest Goblin That Ever Lived:

Str 5; Dex 21; Con 15; Int 17; Wis 15; Cha 16

Favored Class Bonus: +1/4 extra Evolution point, must be spent on fire-related evolutions
Traits: Balloon Head, Greater Purpose
Feats: Extra Evolution, Spell Focus: Conjuration
Knowledge: Arcana +9
Perception +9
Spellcraft +9
Stealth +16
Use Magic Device +9

0: Acid Splash, Detect Magic, Mage Hand, Mending, Message, Read Magic
1: Grease, Mage Armor, Ray of Sickening, Unseen Servant

I could really use some helpful suggestions for gear? My light load is 12lbs (ahahahahaha!) so I'm not even going to speculate about armor (I can rock a 20AC if I need to anyways), but I've got 1500 gold to spend on, what? Scrolls maybe? A masterwork blowgun???

Also, I realize Snowball would be a much more mechanically sound selection than Ray of Sickening, but Puckmutch has no time for Cold damage! It is the opposite of Fire, and as such not worth his time!

Aaaaaaand, here's a rough draft of his best fweind in da whole wide woild...

Big Puckmutch:

Str 19; Dex 13; Con 13; Int 7; Wis 10; Cha 11

Feats: Toughness, ???
Claws (Free)
Limbs: Arms, Legs (Free)
Ability Increase: Str (2pts)
Gore (2pts)
Improved Nat. Armor (1pt)
Magic Attacks (1pt)

Acrobatics +7
Climb +10
Knowledge: Planes +4
Knowledge: Religion +4

I wasn't sure at all what to spend his feats on, though those HP rolls up top have made Toughness an auto-select :P

Possibilities for the second? Dodge? Power Attack?

Anywhosit, the general concept: Puckmutch was basically best at everything in his tribe EXCEPT fighting. The chieftain saw him as a huge threat to leadership of the tribe, as he was smarter than the rest of the tribe by leagues. However, Puckmutch slipped up and it got out that he could read, and that was all the chieftain needed to exile him.

Puckmutch is a fanatically loyal worshiper Zarongel and he believes his Eidolon is a blessing sent to him from his god, specifically that it is an incarnation of Puckmutch's future as a herald of Zarongel. Puckmutch is half right: his Eidolon was indeed sent to him by Zarongel, but the crafty deity has no plans to actually elevate Puckmutch in any capacity beyond the mortal power he is capable of.

While innately brilliant, Puckmutch is poorly educated in every subject outside of magic, and relies on his eidolon for all other information (an arrangement his manipulative god is all to happy with).

So! GM, if you've got any suggestions, or if I've got something that doesn't work right in this first pass, please let me know!

(I've got fairly solid system mastery overall, but precious little experience with Summoners!)

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I'm going to avoid many of the typical Summoner abuses. For one, that'd defeat the purpose of this (FUN!), and for two, well... A huge-size Eidolon doesn't exactly sound particularly dungeon-friendly.

Since he's a goblin, I think the Eidolon is going to be sort of an absurd vision of his idealized self: Tall, terrifying, probably breathes fire. Hmmm... This could be entertaining...

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So let's see what happens on a mulligan!!!

1d28 ⇒ 12 Goblin! That's fun!
1d39 ⇒ 18 Summoner. Eh...
1d2 ⇒ 1 And Classic as well! I suspect these dice are lulling me into a flase sense of security here...
1d9 ⇒ 3 Lawful Evil. Well, at least I'm not a murder hobo.
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (9) + 6 = 15
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (11) + 6 = 17
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (9) + 6 = 15
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (12) + 6 = 18
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (11) + 6 = 17
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (1) + 6 = 7

The stats! The RNG is definitely setting me up for a BIG fall... >_>

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This is... Beautiful.

Now that I've said that, let's see how bad the dice destroy me. :D

1d28 ⇒ 2 Elf
1d39 ⇒ 38 Psychic
1d9 ⇒ 1 Lawful Good
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (11) + 6 = 17
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (6) + 6 = 12
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (11) + 6 = 17
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (1) + 6 = 7
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (7) + 6 = 13
1d12 + 6 ⇒ (6) + 6 = 12

Huh. Powerful, SAD class with a strongly compatible race and good stats.

I know I should feel lucky, but I was hoping for something a bit more... Unorthodox. :-/

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Count me interested. I'm thinking an Warpriest (Cult Leader) of Bastet (I did a quick scan of the previous entries, and I don't *think* I'm stepping directly on anyone's toes with that?). Additionally, assuming you're allowing VMC, I'd likely go Rogue with that.

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Into Darkness and Dragon Kings both sound fun!

As for other "non-Inner Sea" ideas, Arcadia has always had a very appealing sort of mystery to it in my eyes.

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Ah! Always wanted to do Reign of Winter! I've been itching to play a Sensate Fighter for a while, and I think I could build one into a neat facsimile of a Rondolero duelist, since she'll be hailing from Taldor.

It's gonna be super feat-intensive, so no VMC for me. Making it work on a 15-point budget should also be a fun challenge!

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The most truthful answer to this question, for me, would just be "Bard" ad infinitum, but in the interests of keeping things a bit more interesting:

1. Bard. Always and forever, any Edition.
2. Inquisitor. The only class I've ever even approached speculating loving as much as the Bard.
3. Ranger. 3.5ed put this class on the path to becoming the full BaB option that most closely fits my play style and Pathfinder took it the rest of the way, especially with the plethora of wonderful archetypes.

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I'm cooking up a Qlippoth Ectoplasmatist. I'm trying to avoid particularly fine details until the Player's Guide is out, but the more work I do on her the more pumped I get about this AP.

I'm thinking True Neutral, with a kind of Boromir angle: One of the good guys, but a bit too eager to try and harness the very dark powers they're fighting against in order to gain an edge. Also, really want to play up the trope of "Looks like she's doing something suspicious/evil/traitorous, but it turns out she is actually helping you", given that she's gonna look a whole lot like some sort of shoggoth herself.

Also, depending on how much work I want to make for myself, she might speak entirely in iambic pentameter... >_>

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4d6 ⇒ (1, 3, 2, 5) = 11
4d6 ⇒ (5, 3, 5, 5) = 18
4d6 ⇒ (5, 1, 2, 2) = 10
4d6 ⇒ (6, 3, 1, 1) = 11
4d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 6, 5) = 23
4d6 ⇒ (2, 4, 3, 5) = 14

Welp, that corners me pretty squarely into some SAD builds. A Witch, maybe. Or perhaps a total DGAF Barbarian with archetype like Invulnerable Rager or Savage Barbarian.

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I'm not picky: I'd be varying degrees of fine with just about any way they went with this.

Oh, except, put me with everyone who's suggesting the game stays far the hell away from anything like WH40K. That's about the only setting/aesthetic that is just an absolute turn-off for me.

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Cool! Thanks much!

Everyone always underestimates the old lady, until she knocks you off the boat with magical jet of water!

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How do you feel about age categories, i.e. starting at middle age?

While I admit there would be (small) mechanical gain, the idea I am working with works best flavor wise with a character that is a bit older. Of course, I can make it work without, should you decide against it.

The concept: Undine Monk, with the Qingong, Ki Mystic, and Sensei archetypes. Her "Monkness" is less an official monastic order, and more a manifestation of how she worships/perceives the nature of the sea. She "feels the sea" move her to where she needs to be, and I'd like to angle for a character motivation along the lines of, after being press-ganged, she feels like she could escape easily enough but believes she is where the sea wants her to be, assisting the rest of the PCs (Whether or not this is actually the case is academic: she believes it to be so.)

Mechanics-wise, she'd do very little outright punching or anything. Out of combat, she'd be skill focused, perhaps with some party-face capabilities, and extremely proficient at handling things underwater via the Aquatic Ancestry feat. In combat, she'd provide party buffing via the Sensei's Baric Performance analogue, battlefield control via Hydraulic Push and the Hydraulic Maneuver feat, and occasional spell support through various Qingong abilities.

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Dragoncat wrote:
I think I'm going to withdraw from this. Best of luck to the rest of the applicants, though!

Oh hell, I just realized I floated exactly the same character concept as you! That was entirely unintentional, result of me not paying close enough attention, I am sorry.. I will gladly drop that for something else. I hope it wasn't a factor in your decision to drop from the running. :(

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Ah, thank you! Excellent, excellent. Rogue (Eldritch Scoundrel) VMC Magus it is! Always wanted to have the Magus' general shtick attached to a chassis that isn't 100% combat focused. Let's see how this works out!

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Any hope for Variant Mulitclassing? Seems like a lot of folks don't allow it, but it's made a lot of concepts I've wanted to do feasible for the first time.

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What's the word on starting gold? Max? Average?

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Goblinsaurus wrote:

You do realize that the entire class is still a steaming-hot pile of garbage, right? "Buff" or not, the entire burn mechanic is 100% awful.

That's a nice, totally "objective" opinion you've got there.

My subjective take: I've got an earth/fire kineticist I've taken from 1 to 12 so far, under a tough, not particularly forgiving DM, and I'm doing fine.

But, yanno, YMMV.

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Y'know, I typically avoid playing drow like the plague, to avoid being "that guy", but with the Expatriate trait there could be some fertile ground for contextually appropriate "grey area anti-hero turning towards the light". Plus, while the trait comes with a high risk factor, it's benefits seem really good in a "dramatic plot advancements" way.

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Awesome! Excited to submit!

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I would be so, so, so in for this. I've wanted to do ToEE since I was 10 and have never had the opportunity.

Bards are my all-time favorite since I started playing in 2E, so 90% likely I'd go with that. Preferably an Arcane Duelist or Arrowsong Minstrel, though there's a Bard archetype for literally any party role so I'd be happy slotting in wherever.

I also kinda want to do a Halfling Cavalier, but that's a *very* distant second choice.

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I'm about 80% done on my character's crunch, and 60% with the fluff. It's been a busy week for me, but I should have the whole thing up soon.

Just to give everyone an idea of where he'd fit in to a group dynamic, since Occultists can go so many different directions:

He's primarily a blaster (something Occultists can actually do quite well!) with a secondary focus in defensive magic. Initially it's going to be primarily to shore up the fact that he is the brittlest of glass canons, but by the late early levels I'll have nice protective stuff I can share around with the party.

Skill-wise he's got a handful of the Knowledges, solid competency with UMD, and he can deal effectively with non-magical traps (and if there's a superior trapsmith in the group, he's virtually guaranteed to succeed at handing out a +2 from Aid Another. Yay teamwork!).

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Very interested, especially as Serpent's Skull is one of the precious few AP's I have not only never played, but never even read through.

I've been wanting to try out Occultist, and this campaign feels like a perfect fit. Time to cook something up!

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GM Shady wrote:
Orannis wrote:
Is Variant Multiclassing on the table?
No, sorry. I don't (as a generic answer) expect to be running any optional rules.

Ah, okay. I've got a complete character, but she doesn't work without VMC.

I'll draw something brand-new up, then. To the drawing board!

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Is Variant Multiclassing on the table?

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Hey! Still here, sorry. Got wrapped up in real life plus home internet was having issues, keeping me off the computer for much of my downtime.

I'll do my best to have D5-X9 up by tonight!

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I want to thank everyone for all the help!

Also, I know that a droid can take any PrC they qualify for. I should have more clearly stated that there are no PrCs in the Core Book that do anything at all for the specific droid I am building.

But thanks to your lovely assistance, that should be much less of a problem!

Thank you again, very much. You are all gems.

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I only have the core book, and the droid options are a bit... sparse... to say the least, like not all of the droid equipment presented in stat blocks actually being detailed anywhere in the book. And especially when it comes to taking a prestige class (which is something the game essentially expects you to do, given the huge defense boosts a PrC gives you).

As the game is long-defunct, is there perhaps a wiki or some other sort of free source for content? I would assume there was a book that expanded on droid options.

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Also, I know I said I'd have stats up today but, ahahaha, forgot it was Xmas so I've been running around doing family stuff all day and now I'm exhausted. I'll have the numbers up soon, though!

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spinningdice wrote:
I was going to ask if two droids submissions was too much, then facepalmed myself - it's Star Wars - two droids is a classic setup.

Protocol and an astromech, no less. ;)

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Oh oh oh.

I've had a droid concept I've wanted to play for ages:

D5-X9 is a custom-built-from-scratch astromech droid. His builder, and only master he ever had, was a mid-level criminal who preferred to avoid violence and so built D5 to be a completely trustworthy assistant in the many heists and cheats she orchestrated over her career. D5 meant she never had to hire a splicer or co-pilot who'd take part of the cut and possibly betray her.

She passed away a handful of years before the fall of the Republic, and one of her final acts was to liberate D5 into self-ownership, encouraging him to live on having adventures in her stead.

As D5-X9's memory banks have never been wiped in his almost seven decades of existence, he's developed many quirks (or, as he insists, a personality). Primarily, he's never been quite able to process the passing of his creator. As a result, he actively seeks out organics for friendship and professional partnership, but incessantly regards them as incompetent children who would be hopeless without him. Many find this insufferable, but it is in fact the manifestation of an intense co-dependency and poor ability to deal with loss.

He's also got a crippling gambling addiction, and a tendency to "borrow" items for "safe keeping", typically without asking.

I'm at work, and don't have my Saga Edition book with me, but I can have a stat block up by tomorrow. I intend to use the custom droid construction rules.

And here are my stat rolls! (Only 5, of course, since no CON score)

4d6 ⇒ (5, 1, 1, 6) = 13 12
4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 5, 3) = 14 11
4d6 ⇒ (4, 3, 1, 1) = 9 8
4d6 ⇒ (4, 6, 6, 4) = 20 16
4d6 ⇒ (1, 6, 6, 3) = 16 15

Yikes. That's... Not fantastic...

Attempt #2!

4d6 ⇒ (5, 3, 2, 3) = 13 12
4d6 ⇒ (1, 2, 6, 3) = 12 11
4d6 ⇒ (3, 6, 1, 2) = 12 11
4d6 ⇒ (4, 6, 5, 2) = 17 15
4d6 ⇒ (4, 1, 2, 6) = 13 12

Barf. Okay, looks like I'm going with set #1!

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Dot. Thinking Rogue. Young, comes from an impoverished, poorly regarded family in Kassen. Hoping to earn some respectability by doing well in the rite of passage.

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2ndGenerationCleric wrote:
Stupid question that pertains to ride the blast. Let's say I fell off a cliff. I'm plummeting to my death, and I forgot my boots of the cat. Assuming my GM let's me take a turn (big cliff) can I target a square on the ground, shoot a blast, then ride it to safety? Can I use it to cross, say, a chasm? Get out of a net? This sounds really cool, but want to make sure it works

I don't know about the rules vagaries, but I'd declare any GM that doesn't allow that an official No Fun Person.

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Dot! Always wanted to play Legacy of Fire!

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Kicking around a Magus(Skirnir)/Brawler(Shield Champion). Busy today, but will be back later with more.

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Perhaps a bit late to throw my hat in (that's a pretty long list at this point) but, eh, might have an inspired idea or two knocking around in my head.

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If I was DMing and a player did that, they'd be out full stop: zero negotiation. I'd also probably never speak to them again. I have less than zero tolerance for the kind of person that plays a game, under any context, with the thought: "Hey, you know, my character should rape this person."

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avr wrote:

A familiar with the protector archetype seems appropriate. It's all part of knowing what's coming.

Given the 'you don't know what direction I'm coming from' I'd think some use of either trip or feint would fit.

That's a good point: Even after paying for VMC, I could flesh out a decent trip build with the feats I have available before lvl8. That could be pretty nasty, too.

I definitely like the Bodyguard part of protector, and now that I'm looking at it Decoy looks like a pretty good option as well. Familiar archetypes had slipped my mind, thank you for pointing them out!

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