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A discussion I was having with Ben Bruck, combined with flipping through the Game Mastery Guide's NPC Gallery on the PRD and re-reading certain Kingmaker volumes, has led me to build incredibly stupid (yet technically effective) mass combat armies. The problem is, now I can't stop doing it. I encourage you to join along. Maybe your kingdom needs fields of barmaids or an elite cadre of prisoners, too.
Here's a couple examples:
VILLAGE IDIOT HORDE CR 1
Huge army of humans (commoner 1)
COMBAT
hp 2; DV 11; OM +1
LOGISTICS
Speed 2; Consumption 1
Prerequisite excessive mercury in the drinking water
ELITE PRISONER CADRE CR 2
Medium army of humans (expert 4)
COMBAT
hp 9; DV 12; OM +2
LOGISTICS
Speed 2; Consumption 2
Prerequisite must have watched at least one prison break film; cannot act unless Thin Lizzy's "Jailbreak" is playing
TOURING MINSTREL TROUPE CR 1
Tiny army of humans (bard 6)
COMBAT
hp 4; DV 11; OM +1
LOGISTICS
Speed 2; Consumption 1
Prerequisite lute sale
WAVE OF HOOKERS CR 9
Colossal army of humans (expert 1/rogue 1)
COMBAT
hp 40; DV 19; OM +9
LOGISTICS
Speed 2; Consumption 9
Prerequisite Nevada
EDIT: After talking to Booms, I have added the following:
OH $#!@ MONKEYS CR 4
Colossal army of monkeys
COMBAT
hp 18; DV 14; OM +4
LOGISTICS
Speed 2; Consumption 4
Special Abilities fling poo
Prerequisite kingdom ruler must speak French; bananas must be in season
Nanamber wrote: Lunamaria Hawke wrote: I am known as Valentinez Alkalinella Xifax Sicidabohertz Gombigobilla Blue Stradivari Talentrent Pierre Andri Charton-Haymoss Ivanovici Baldeus George Doitzel Kaiser III. how I am suppose to fit this in that tiny line? Vash works too. Love and peace, sir. :D
I.Malachi wrote: I agree with N'wah (hey, how've you been? Good to see you!)... Good to see you, to! Survivin' so far. Gazin' down the barrel of my impending 30th in less'n four months. Haven't punched out yet, at least. :P
And...
/END THREADJACK

I'd assume that if - IF - Paizo would touch this, it'd be in some kinda epic-level book. as mentioned before, the ascended gods were above and beyond even 20th level when they ascended via their various means, even if only inferred in the reading. Now me, I've never had my PCs go beyond 21st (good ol' Savage Tide made it to the 21st-level mark), and I dunno if I'd want them to, 'cept maybe as a wacky one-shot where they tear through a series of BBEGs in the way that old 1st-Ed folks would pit Demogorgon against Orcus when they were eight years old.
I think, though, that any or all of these godhood-ascension details will be left vague for GMs and players to discover together. You could easily decide that once your PCs hit 20th, they can go on a quest or whatnot to prove their divine right to ascension. The Irori way is prolly less quest than, "off you go to further your studies and hone your skills, and blah blah blazing star rises from the heavens blah blah pick your domains so your next PC can worship your last PC."
As to the OP's query about handling ascension: no one in my game, so far's I've seen, has shown a lick of interest in becoming a god, save a buddy of mine back when we were ten, and we just had him kill a god. We hand-waved pretty much everything back then. If they did, I'd work something out between them and me. If they wanna quest for it, I'd make a whole quest deal. If they just wanna have their PC become a god so's their other PCs can become devotees of said god, well, that's just picking domains and whatnot, maybe write up some deets on the god's mortal exploits and whatnot. I see more interesting options in playing the first breed of new-god loyalists in a world full of established faiths trying to figure out how you're gonna muscle into their established placement in faith and society than a guy bench-pressing the Tarrasque and pissing in Lamashtu's eye.
Just a thought, though. I'm-a gon' eat this pizza.
I keep forgetting about you crazy kids until I get lost and stumble into your room, as I've done I think at every PaizoCon you've run it so far. I intend to do so this time as well, if only to keep the tradition alive.
One of these days I'll run "Antipaladin in Heaven" and give you guys a run for your money, I do so swear. :D
Lazaro wrote: This makes me sad... I so WANT! Well, there's a baby-eating contest up in Hudsonville, MA. $5,000 top prize to the first place winner, $1,000 for second, and $500 for third. If you can stuff an infant or two into your gorge without puking, you'll stand a good chance of coming home with enough cash for the trip.
Good ol' Hudsonville. Always there when you need to make a buck.
Vic Wertz wrote: The part I'm most looking forward to is that we'll get to share some details about that awesome thing that I can't even tell you about yet! D'aww, my public execution, Vic? You can tell the folks all about it. I'm happy to return the spirit of Roman blood sport to the greater Seattle area.
Side note: Tiny Coffee Golem's technique with the <i>explosive runes</i> was used to amazing effect in my old Savage Tide game for a certain stone head. I don't recall how many dice of force damage were thrown from multiple <i>explosive runes</i> going off, but I think the counting up took a few minutes. And the kitchen floor.
Our kingdon name and capital city were hard to come by; my group has a hard time even coming up with their character's names, so when I giddily exclaim, "LET'S NAME THE KINGDOM!" they all kinda twiddle thumbs.
Lucky for us, we had an in-game in-joke to work off of: a sign left in the trapped glade announcing the reclamation of all the traps by "The Bears." It ties in extra-nice with our ruler being from that Brevic noble house with a bear as the coat of arms.
So without further ado:
Kingdom of Urseine (a combination of Ursus and the Seine river; so, basically "Bear River" in our mutated minds)
Capital City: Oso (Spanish for bear)
Other Cities: Firstgate (formerly Oleg's Trading Post; now a military garrison); Elgerhall (located around the Temple of the Elk; rural town and center of Erastil worship in Urseine), Tatzylford (recently annexed)
If one of our players has his druthers, there will also be a Stabbingtown or a Pokeville sometime.
Did I mention we all have the brain worms?
I just read the reviews. Now I'm shedding the tears of a rapper.
Tell me it's okay, Ben. Tell me the mean reviewers simply have PCs made of glass. :P
You know me, Timmy-Tim Tim. Always ready to lend a stylus.
Now gimme many artings to do!
I'm taking an impromptu poll to see if anyone would shed tears of scarlet if the generic gnolls (hereafter referred to as "generignolls") can from earlier stuff. Named and leveled gnolls get the new ert, but the outta-the-box guys get stuff from PF 19 and 20. Any beefs?
And thanks for the positive reviews! I'm hoping to fix the low reviews back when the set was, like, 1/12th the size.
Glad you liked the Unchosen, bignate. I came THIS close to re-drawing them, but that could just be the usual artistic dissatisfaction.
John Mangrum wrote: Oh, I'm definitely interested. Cool. Drop me a line, when you got the time; my e-mail's in my message board profile.
John Mangrum, sir, you're doing the Lord's work in here. I've added this thread to my bookmarks, and have been diligently grabbing stats since I found it, about three hours ago.
I'm willing to offer recompense in the form of artwork for the diligent efforts you've provided, BTW. This has been an amazing resource. We can talk details soon enough, if you're interested.
I assume you guys are hep to my availability for artings, yes?
EDIT: Might even write for this one. Hmm...
darlos04 wrote: Very nice, my group has just entered house of the beast. This will be great to use, thanks. My pleasure! I'm excited to print out my copy soon. My group's almost finished with the first adventure, so it'll come in handy for me, too. :D
So, been working on the upcoming third set of LoF minis (no, seriously!), and I took a quick break to whip up a copy of the Scroll of Kakishon. It's sized to be 11" x 17" if printed out at 300 DPI, so it should make a pretty sweet handout for some PCs to discover, I hope.
Anyhoo. Enough jabber. Here's the link to its home on dA; just hit the "Download" button, and be prepared to wait a bit. It's pretty big.
Hope y'all enjoy it!
Volaran wrote: This looks great, though I am glad I have the previous version. Not running Legacy anymore, but my group is playing in Katapesh, so these are all welcome. :) I'm seriously considering, with Liz's say-so, putting the old sets I did up on my DeviantART page for free.
I'll have to dig 'em off my computer, though. Wonder if I still got all the old files. Hmm...
Volaran wrote: This looks great, though I am glad I have the previous version. Not running Legacy anymore, but my group is playing in Katapesh, so these are all welcome. :) The next one should be especially pleasing then, what with all the non-combatant Katapesh residents like Rayhan, that cleric of Abadar, and whatnot.
I personally have gotten a lot of use out of various minis sets from all the contributors. Crystal's brigands from the first Kingmaker set get used a lot as general human thugs, and everyone loves the goblin cook from Callous Jack's earlier stuff.
deinol wrote: Liz Courts wrote: Updated! The set now includes all of the miniatures you need to run both the main adventure, "House of the Beast", and the sidetrek adventure, "Coils of Flame"—over 100 miniatures. Does this mean AP 21 is coming soon? ;) Workin' on it right now. :D
Benchak the Nightstalker wrote: So anyone on the boards get a chance to play/run this yet? I'm waiting to find out myself. :D
I'm eager to see reviews on this. Especially my comic. 'Tis my first published one. :D
And Liz, yes, we'll prolly be using the Harrow deck creation method for Carrion Crown. Well, the PCs will, at any rate. My GMPC is already done.
Mustache Riders of the Mana Wastes, sir. Also, next year we're taking the number one spot in the trivia contest.
Assuming I can get the ticket to PaizoCon, and a hotel room (we stay at a hotel about five minutes' walk from Con-ville now, since it's A:) dirt cheap, B:) still allows smoking rooms, and C:) has a kitchen nook for easy prep of foodstuffs), AND airfare, I hope to run something. Alas, something tells me I'll be unsure of my attendance until mere days before the Con, so while I plan on running "Dungeon Keepers II: Orv-Gone Trail," I don't wanna leave people sitting in an empty slot if I find myself dead on the road from a failed hitch-hiking attempt.
So, my consolation prize: IF I make it, I will get in touch with all y'all folks and run SPONTANEOUS N'WAH GAMING ACTION in one of the open gaming rooms. Orv-Gone Trail, my 4E Mecha game, maybe something completely random. We'll see, depending on interest and my own availability/being alive. :D
Aureus wrote: Continued Kingmaker support in paper minis? GAAAREAT! We loved them for the first two volumes and hope to use them for VV as well! I'm pretty excited to see Crystal's interpretation of Varnhold Vanishing's BBEG. :D
Callous Jack wrote: Yes but I have Vecna's Unforgiving Kneaded Eraser and a Wand of Bigby's Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. I'll bow out just to watch this fight. :P
Callous Jack wrote: Yes, a frontstab is not as effective. Well, I suppose you could flank with Crystal. I lack uncanny dodge, thanks to my poor class level selections.
Then, of course, you two'd have to duke it out, and Crystal's +5 keen vorpal pen is pretty badass.
Urizen wrote: N'wah wrote: Liada the Corpse Yard Whore
Iconic necrophile FTW.
I forgot to look: does she have a shovel in her inventory? Please oh please oh please? :P Only if you draw her to be that way. </hint drops> If they ask me to, I will gladly do so. :D
Liada the Corpse Yard Whore
Iconic necrophile FTW.
I forgot to look: does she have a shovel in her inventory? Please oh please oh please? :P
Callous Jack wrote: N'wah wrote: I'd love to do Jade Regent above Carrion Crown... Well in that case, I may have to backstab you when you're not looking... ACK! Stabbing! My only weakness!
EDIT: Also, isn't the point of backstabbing that the victim isn't looking? :P
Marc Gillham wrote: Awesomeness. I'm not even playing Pathfinder at the moment but these are so generically useful I'm buying big time. Paizo, it is not possible for you to make enough of these! We're all workin' hard to make as many as possible, I promise you.
And my sentiments exactly. Can't have enough cheap-o minis. :D
sanwah68 wrote: I am happy they have updated these sets...my group is just about to finish House of the Beast, and I am hoping that the next set will be ready soon...hint, hint. I'm working my way through House of the Beast right now, in fact. :D
Callous Jack wrote: I think it comes down to what we get assigned by Liz but for the record, CC is not on the top of my list. :) So it's all yours N'wah! Alrighty! :D
I'd love to do Jade Regent above Carrion Crown, but as I'm gonna run Carrion Crown, I might end up doing art anyways. Might as well make it available for everyone. :D

Mothman wrote: ... I don’t want to come across as a whiner, but I actually kind of prefer some of the previous artwork, for example the more individual caravan guards, and the slightly more exaggerated / cartoony style of the goat demon and the harpy in the above set. I don’t suppose there’s any way I could still get the old sets, if I was stupid enough to have lost my old downloads?
Oh, and the old Dashki with his hugely oversized forearms, that was awesome.
Don’t get me wrong, this is not a complaint, with so many more minis in the revised set I am getting way more bang for my buck, and the artwork is probably ‘better’ now, I just think its lost a little bit of its original quirkiness.
I've got all the old files, if you lost yours. I can prolly send them to you. Or maybe I'll post up the old art on dA or something. Lemme check with Liz, but it probably won't affect sales too much if the old stuff were available for free. I mean, for most folks, paying $5 for all the minis vs. getting a few of them free isn't going to affect their purchase decision.
I'll have to leave it to CJ and Crystal whether or not they want their old stuff floating around pro bono, though, as mentioned above, if you got the old Katapeshi Caravan set, it's still available for download. You just get extras of all the caravan folks on top of everything else.
I, too, loved Crystal's Dashki- enough so that my version's basically just the same in my style. :D
Maybe the next recognizable fighter-type guy will have oversized forearms, to make up for it? :D
godsDMit wrote: Is there any way to see what these look like printed out in comparison to actual minis? As soon as I print out my full set- which should be soon- I'll take some photos and upload them on DeviantART. I'll post links once I do.
Might also do the same for the sets of CJ's I've got access to. We'll see how much I can print out.
Side note- I framed the PF 19 cover. It comes out pretty darn good. Might make decent art for barren living room walls. :D
Mothman wrote: N'wah wrote: The best thing to happen, EVAR. Make my upcoming birthday awesome and buy 'em all.
Even Callous Jack's stuff. :P
Heh, these are cool.
Are you (or even Callous Jack) going to do sets for the rest of Kingmaker? And/or Carrion Crown? Crystal Frasier's finishing up Kingmaker; I'm hoping for Carrion Crown, but Liz wants us to finish off our respective APs before moving on to new territory, so my money's on CJ, if he wants that one. He's a wily fellow, so who knows what he might pick next.
The best thing to happen, EVAR. Make my upcoming birthday awesome and buy 'em all.
Even Callous Jack's stuff. :P
I'M excited for these, and I'm not even privvy to the art.
I'll have to talk to Liz about my plans for 3-D rune giants now. :P
gigglestick wrote: OK, I can't find either this set or the old caravans set in my downloads anymore...
Check in your E-mail; there should be a link from Paizo to the new updated stuff.

Full set list, for those inclined to such things (and as I've learned, who isn't):
* Almah
* Garavel
* Dashki
* Father Zastoran
* 3 Male Mercenaries
* 3 Female Mercenaries
* 4 Pactmaster Guards
* Rombard (Tiny-sized goat bebe)
* 6 Pugwampis
* King Mokknokk (pugwampi chieftain)
* 3 Stirges
* 4 Baboons
* Geier (Large vulture)
* Medium-Size Wolf Spider
* 2 Slime Molds
* 3-D Dust Digger
* 3-D Giant Mamba (Huge-sized snake)
* 4 DIFFERENT Gnolls
* Kurellak (gnoll bartender)
* Ugruk (flind)
* Kezurkian (schir demon)
* Halruun
* Haleen
* Felliped
* Jank (goblin jester)
* 2 Fire Elementals (shaped like flaming winged angels)
* Undrella (harpy)
* 3 Coffer Corpses
* Hurvank the Strangler (unarmed ogre wrestler in a Luchador mask)
* Old Bonegrinder (dire boar)
* Kardswann
* Xulthos
* 4 Giant Tarantulas (Medium-sized spider)
* 3 Chokers
* Medium-Size Fiendish Asp
* 2 Animated Sphinx Statues (Medium-size animated object)
* Haidar the Accursed
* Werejaguar
...ANNNDDD A PAAARTRIIIDGE INNN A PEAR TREEEEEE! :D
golem101 wrote: Really enjoying the updated version. Great stuff.
Looking forward for the next releases!
They're only gonna get better, sir, I promise. I'm REALLY looking forward to the BBEG in this AP. :D
deinol wrote: The update is awesome, but doesn't it kind of negate the need for a separate Caravan mini pack? Well, unless you like Crystal's better. Plus, if you already got the caravan, you've also got camels and the herders. I didn't do them. :P
deinol wrote: Not that I'm complaining, I already got my moneys worth out of these. I look forward to more releases in the future! Yeah, Liz has got me working on the rest of LoF, so more updates, and the finalization of the AP, to come. Plus, I've also got my own mini side-biz. So, y'know, new stuff coming there as well. :D
Vic is, as always, correct. Many exciting developments coming so soon, even I can almost wait for 'em. :D
Almost. :P
Alright, so second PC in my group appears to be Ben' Bruck's PC, who appears to be a changeling inquisitor of Iomedae. I'll ask him to drop in and fill in his concept at his leisure.
I'll also post up Dr. Iulian Sandulescu later. At the mo' I'm a bit full of rum, so... :P
NO ONE EXPECTS THE N'WAH IMPOSITION!
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