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I think the idea of chaotic neutral / evil seems to differ from people.
Once in a campaign I played a "chaotic neutral" barbarian, but the DM claimed the character was "evil" so the character got banned and I had to reroll a new char.
Why was the character evil? Because he didn't save a dwarf child cased in magical crystal during one quest.
In a magical world with all kind of foul sorcerery, curse, etc., not being paid handsomely to do a quest that may endanger the character's safety seems none persuasive, unless he's aligned toward good. In my opinion, the character I played was chaotic neutral.
But in my DM's eyes, he was chaotic evil. So, maybe communicate with the DM first to get the idea of chaotic neutral/evil in his mind.
To play a witty&smart chaotic neutral character, I would say plot against everyone who seems profitable, but not necessarily trigger it at any chance.
Medieval mercenary might fit the role with them raiding on their ex-employers' land once unemployed, slack off when possible, fought without passion when pitched against fellow mercenaries, Chevauchée on villages, etc.
I would say video games tend to grant players who do good deeds with better rewards while taking less risks.
Good aligned quests will give more exp than evil acts. It's weird because evil seems to be a easier way to gain power, glory and wealth, but most of the time it would not be implemented in video game.
You cannot even rob the magical sword you just saw from the shopkeeper because players are often blocked by magical dimension shop space so murdering shop keepers grant you only a few useless trinkets.
Auto-pause system don't work well though with RTwP games from past experience.
For example, arcanum. You can get more tactical that mode but it makes the game feels frozen, due to no (breathing) animations when auto paused.
Now I just hope there is a choose one character and rest of party controlled by AI mode.
Seeing this line from the update
*Our AI can help you control the characters in battle.*
I wonder if we can simply choose a character and let the rest of party follow the chosen leader.
Really lazy to control a full party in cRPG,unless it's turn based, then I can play it as a war board game. Much prefer NWN: HOU or DAO style.
I was really hyped when I saw the news, then I saw it has real time with pause system.
Playing none casters in said system seems to be rather uninteresting and none responsive imo.
The only RTwP crpg with okish gameplay was dragon age origin, and it added many mmo-esque cool down abilities for the none casters.
Still waiting for a TOEE sequel with enemies that can grapple...
It definitely helps, thanks.
Not sure if I'm correct, but 2E seems to have 2 editions?
4000 / 10 (assuming it's still priced at this)= 400 cows
There seems to be more deflation with cows in this edition!
With cheese I'll have to guess with 1 day of servings = 3 meal (though medieval people usually have 2 meals, rich got 3 or more and adventurers belong to the 1% rich)
1 serving = 1.5 ounce x 3 = 4.5 = 0.28125 lbs = 4 silver
1lbs = 14.222 silver
2 ounce x 3 = 6 = 0.375 lbs = 4 silver
1lbs = 10.666 silver
Seems cheese become overpirced in AD&D..
Does this still use the vigesimal system?
Orfamay Quest wrote:
The old vigesimal system looks like how shillings to £ worked. :P
7500lb of cheese equivalent to 400 gold would mean 8000 sp, about 1.067 s/lbs. About the price of a merchant's meal.
Just a little conversion with plate armor to cows.
real life England
10 gp: one cow
Cow (good) 10s 12 cen(?)  30
6s = 0.3£
16/0.3 = 53.333
16/0.5 = 32
3.0 and later
1500 / 10 = 150 cows
400 / 10 = 40 cows
So the earlier edition is actually more close to the actual English number!
I wonder why price of cows got deflated in the later edition.. >_>
Hi, recently I did some easy (google) search and found the price gap between cheese and plate armor is nearly identical in pathfinder and D&D 3e as in 14th century England!
price of plate armor
From one of many quotes
Although examples of the price of armor, weapons, and equipment are known from several periods in history, it is difficult to translate historical monetary value into modern terms. It is clear, however, that the value of armor ranged from low-quality or outdated second-hand items quite affordable to citizens and mercenaries, to the cost of an entire armory of an English knight, the contents of which were valued in 1374 at over £16. This was equivalent to about five to eight years of rent for a London merchant’s house, or over three years’ worth of wages for a skilled laborer, a single helmet (a bascinet, probably with aventail) being worth the purchase price of a cow.
Many website has this but not sure where it comes from.
price of cheese
80 lb cheese 3s 4d late 13 cen 
1 lb = 0.5d
In D&D and pathfinder, 1lb of cheese costs 2sp.
Plate armor costs 1500 gold, 15000s, aka 7500lb cheese
7500lb x 0.5 = 3750 d
3750d / 12 = 312.5 shillings / 20 = £15.625
Yeah, I know later these armor got their prices inflated but still I would say it's pretty close to the £16 figure.
Did earleir D&D already have this close number, or was it a later change to make the economy more realistic?
In the elemental annihilator's ability description, it says you can not get utility wild talents.
Dampened Versatility (Ex)
An elemental annihilator can never gain utility wild talents.
In the Augmented element feat description, it says if you've tread utility talent away, you can gain the wild talent back.
You have the spark of psionic power, allowing you to broaden your elemental abilities.
In addition, you gain the psionic subtype, allowing you to take psionic feats, metapsionic feats, and psionic item creation feats.
If you do not have your primary element’s basic utility talent (for example, if you have traded it away with an archetype), you also gain that wild talent.
So do these two work together? Or is augmented elements a specific feat for blood kineticist since no other archetype trading away utility wild talent from what I read.
BTW, Is Kineticist's level eligible for taking feats with manifest level? Some descriptions in Kineticist's page did mention about manifest. In the description under psionics, manifest was mentioned 9 times while under kineticist's page it was mentioned 5 times.
The thread is about worthless spells though, not worthless ability.
Stinking cloud also has better DC, which equates to 10 + 3 (spell level) + dependent ability to cast modifier + any feat the character may have with a 100+ feet range.
With a 16 casting dependent mental score, the DC would be 16.
Weedwhip's poison DC equates to 12 + con modifer +1 (from the con +2 buff from spell)
You would need CON 16 to get to DC 16.
You'll need to be almost MAD (only charisma to dump) to boost this attack's DC, to hit, and have a decent AC while being able to cast.
It's a wizard/sorcerer/alchemist spell though. The minimum level you obtain it would be at level 9 and above, even with a druid you can only get it at level 8 through wild shape.
Since it uses fortitude save, it probably might work on totally unprepared enemy casters with low fortitude saves.
Might be decent if you gain it at level 4(it's from a cr2 creature so doesn't seem overpowered even at lv3 and may stay relevant for a few levels).
Otherwises, just cast lv3 stinking cloud is better in every possible way other than duration. (the spell doesn't even get resisted by spell resistance)
*plants shape also don't grant immunity unlike element body and other spells
Element body III specifies this.
You are also immune to bleed damage, critical hits, and sneak attacks while in elemental form.
None of this had been said with plant shape.
The only thing plant shape got is this line.
Plant Shape II
This spell functions as plant shape I except that it also allows you to assume the form of a Large creature of the plant type. If the creature has immunity or resistance to any elements, you gain energy resistance 20 to those elements.
At level 11 with 1 slot of level 6 spell, or a level 10 druid, the shape can finally gain energy resistance of 20.
I was in a 3.0 campaign and we encountered a werewolf but no one in the party cann bypass its damage reduction, so the fighter bullrushed it from the top of tower and called it a day.
We also bullrushed a villain in plate armor unto a pit so he cannot climb up and we just shot him to death from above.
It's rather situational but may come handy sometimes, such as pushing enemies into traps that they avoided.
Agh, I see. Thought it gave 1d6 minimum then having 3d6 kinetic blast damage would grant additional 1d6 damages.
Do psychic with mutation mind archetype get tentacles?
I think you add the attack bonus to the synthesist shape so it would be +4 bab (+1 from eidolon and +3 from kineticist), same as a full e6 kineticist would get.
Well, in 14th century I believe European forests had been shrinking down considerably due to human society's usages of wood till black death spread out.
While pathfinder and D&D aren't a direct conversion of medieval real life, the amount of population would probably pose a threat to nature like what happened in real life.
It's odd that plant creatures and nature preservers don't fight back against human society. But then, the treants in LOTR never did anything when humans were doing it. Guess it's only evil when baddie does it.
Yeah I know it's a game but it feels like odd to me. If I put the feeling into words, it would be a pacifist living in ghetto beating people up to promote peace.
Recently I beat the game age of decadence and the idea of playing a alien-like humanoid with tentacles and jadi like ability comes to mind.
Here is a rough build.
The stats's not really optimized for RP purpose.
1st level summoner synthesist
Biped 3 evolution points.
Known spells - shield and Rejuvenate Eidolon, Lesser
The rest 5 levels go to kineticists, taking elmental water as focus so he would get the an equivalent +4 armor bonus as mage armor replacement.
Once at level 6, the tentacles (and claws) would have +2d6 damages from kinetic fist, not counting further improvements taking extra evolution twice.
The blast damage would be at 3d6 + eidolon's con modification.
Using gather power would also be safer due to synthesist's superior ac.
He would be able to use 5 levels of synthesist abilities regularly. And if the eidolon gets banished, his kinetic blast actually gets a boost due to having higher dex.
Will this build be any good in a e6 party or would he fall behind later?
Going a straight 6 level synthesist seems easier (and probably stronger) but he has no telekinesis ability other than cantrip, which defeats the idea of a tentacle telekinesis user.
Since druids are supposed to revere nature, does the act of using human society currency counter against the code?
Assuming trees are cut down to make furniture, houses, tools, toy, cart, ship or used as fuel to keep fire/maintain furnace etc., human society probably does more damages to nature than evil baddies.
To keep road safe, trees beside roads were also trimmed down in order for safer passage during medieval.
In cities, much excrement was collected and poured down in river which further damage the ecology system.
Why would a druid even use currency which not only goes against contact with man made metal, but also promotes trade flow which would require the usages of cart/ship that use woods?
They don't get overshadowed by big cat as animal companion in 3.x
Some creatures also have physical stats that I find hard to agree with.
Doppleganger STR 18
I also like the fluff write ups in 3.5 about each class attitudes toward the other classes. It's a bit stereotype but also brings up some imaginative ideas.
Where do I buy the soundtrack it mentioned on the official website homepage?
It doesn't list soundtrack on the product page nor here.
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soundtrack is nowhere to been seen.
Sorry to bump this old thread, but since now we got Variant Multiclassing, does a cleric with wizard (necromancy) as focus combine their level for determining how many undead they control?
A character who chooses wizard as his secondary class gains the following secondary class features.
School Power: At 7th level, he gains the 1st-level powers of his chosen school. If any of those powers grant an extra effect at 20th level, the character does not gain that extra effect.
A fighter multiclass varianted wizard (necromancy) at level 7 gain command undead and get 7HD undead under his control.
So, when a cleric multiclass varianted wizard (necromancy) and gain command undead at level 7, would he have 14 HD or 7HD undead under his control?
Thanks for the quick reply.
My mistake, but a Xill still misses one claw attack it seems.
Melee short swords +13/+13/+8 (1d6+3/19–20), claw +13 (1d4+3 plus grab), bite +7 (1d3+1 plus paralysis)
Melee short swords +13/+13/+8 (1d6+3/19–20), 2 arms wield shortsword
claw +13 (1d4+3 plus grab), 1 claw, should be 2 claws here
bite +7 (1d3+1 plus paralysis), 1 bite
Hi, I've already searched about multiattack threads, which most discuss about Eidolon.
Then, I just checked Xill's status chart on d20srd and found this.
Melee short swords +13/+13/+8 (1d6+3/19–20), claw +13 (1d4+3 plus grab), bite +7 (1d3+1 plus paralysis)
Multiweapon Mastery (Ex)
A xill never takes penalties to an attack roll when fighting with multiple weapons, and treats claws as primary attacks even when also wielding weapons.
Since Xill holds 3 short sword, wouldn't it have +13/+8 from primary arm, +13 sword x 2 from secondary arms, +13 claw from the last arm?
Or am I missing something here? Thanks in advance.
A free mode (not interfered with main campaign though you can choose to have the original campaign on as an opinion)with an open isometric world (like storm of zephir but with more realism instead of monsters spawing out of air, no real population growth/loss so caravans don't really matter, etc.) which player creates a character (or a party) and there would be random events happening to the world.
It would be great if it's moddable so all kinds of ideas could contribute to the (modded) gameplay. Adding festivals, adventure hooks, disaster, dynamic events that you or even npc (depending on the npc's strength or a country's national power, etc.) may have an impact on.
Samurai Champeloo? The main character is pretty much a *commoner,* of course a fighter has no problems simulating it...
But then, in most anime fighters are crap. The hero (yussha) usually has some form of magic while being able to weild sword like magus, charismatic personalities like the bard, utilities spells like the wizard (except the most powerful spell so wizzies still got a place in the party while "regular fighters" just don't exist there), or super power like the barbarian... sometimes they even get healing spells, and let's ignore the "protagonist plot armor that grants bloodline heritage powers" that could be from a sorcerer
Unless you mean some less popular manga like Sengoku Tenshouki or Hawkwood which pretty much has the main character as a fighter (or samurai/cavalier in more specific terms), or some old anime that are based on DnD like Record of lodoss where a fighter is a fighter, no more no less. Popular anime/manga tends to grant protagonist special power like guyver (can be emulated by synthesist), shapeshifting in Terra formars (could be done by beastmorph alchemist.. though they lack the mean to turn into insectoid despite the fluff ), blood heritage that grants phenomenal skills / spells / shifting, etc.
Casting spells may also cause subdual damage. Iirc some of DnD fictions like dragonlance described spellcasters as drained after casting spells, but in the actual game this mechanic doesn't exist. It can also take extra exp drain as spell level increase & use exp to craft like it used to be so resource (exp) management would be important, rather than exceeding other classes' skills/talent/feat/power with a single low/mid level spell or two for no cost.
Is working homicide? By working, you take away another human being's possibility to have that job, and (s)he may desperately require that income to survive.
Is not helping the starving people homicide? Should provide inadequate help (from donating to encountering fatal situations) also be treated as homicide?
Using tabletop as an example, if you're a level one commoner seeing a group of poors being chased by a cannibal monster, does not helping make you commit homicide? If you're a level one warrior in the king's army and the king orders all the babies in town to be killed, does following the order make you a murderer? Does fighting back and kill your ex-fellow till you fall also make you a murderer? Would protest against the king and have you hung be self-murder? If you see someone going to be executed for unknown reasons, would not helping be murder?
Well, while the story structure may not work if the protagonist perishes, I felt sidekicks having more scenes is more interesting than the protagonist being Mary Sue. (?) For example, from Hong Kong comics to Adventures of Tintin, the main characters' "adventures" most of time involve no risks because they're set to be immortal.
Last two Hong Kong comics I read, one was about a protagonist who would have his skull getting smashed by all kinds of weapons during fights. For about 100 episodes or more, he still got hit all over, but none of the bruises ever turned into a scar. Another Hong Kong comic simply took most of the fight scenes from the main character's part to the sidekicks and suddenly the reading sucked me in. Since side kicks are none-primary characters and may suffer from all kinds of misfortune, their scenes felt more closer to risk and reward scenes than the protagonist being treated favorably.
Hi, in fictions/novels/movies and many other media, the main character usually has an extraordinary fortune which prevents him from getting seriously injured (fatal injuries that cause permanent death or permanent disability with no other ways for the protagonist to revive/recover), unless the story wants to introduce a new protagonist, is near the end, or wants to explore the world after death, etc.
I've been searching around google but cannot find any term similar. While I know it is a plot device (like deu ex machina), I cannot seem to find the adjective for this. Does such term exist?
English is not my first language; that's reason I've trouble trying to find the word for this setup. Thanks in advance.
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