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I wanted to take a minute to welcome aboard the new Venture-Captain assigned to Montreal. I will let Charles-√Čric Savaria introduce himself, advise about the websites he will utilize for coordinating, and any other information he wishes to share.

Welcome to the team!

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Sebastian Hirsch wrote:
TetsujinOni wrote:
Walter Sheppard wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:

Maybe one day, it is something we can consider. That day is not today, though. It is on my radar. If there ever is a time we can fit it in and do it right, you can bet I will give it serious consideration.

I have four words for you, Mike.

Aspis. Consortium. Organized. Play.

You don't have to make a decision on it now. Just think about it for a bit and let it sink in. How cool could those missions be? Perhaps some intersecting plot lines where PCs undo some of the "good" done by previous PFS scenarios.

Necro to add:

THIS YEAR AT PAIZOCON AND GENCON.

THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING.

RISE OF SERPENTS: Now you will learn how it feels to fall under the blades of Pathfinder Agents.... firsthand.

Sorry, just having a continuing moment of glee - I'm very excited about this year's specials.

That Necro really was not necessary, I read quite a lot until I saw the orginial posting date.

The serpent thing might be exiting for a number of players, but not being on that particular continent, does temper my motivation somewhat.

Reread my Gen Con blog then. As normal, the multi tier specials are available for regions to run. The two pregen specials will be four and five star GM exclusives that can be run anywhere the 4 and 5 star GMs want to run them, you don't have to attend Gen Con to have a chance to play it. Gen Con nets the first chance to play one and PaizoCon nets the other one. After Gen Con, they will be available for play worldwide.

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pauljathome wrote:
"Inari" wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
John and I discussed grandfathering at length. As John and I both advised in the first thread, this is the decision that the PFS team has made and is what we are going with.
Okay, this is a good answer.
Actually, it does not answer the OP at all. The question was "Why was this decision made?". Saying that it was made after discussion and that it won't change does NOT answer "Why".

It was already advised why the decision was made Here.

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We have already advised that there will be no free retraining option.

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Muser wrote:

I wish replaying Specials was legal. There's a lot of content to be missed in TPWC, SotDC and LotSL, for example.

I...am not so sure I would replay Bonekeep. There're Fort saves and then there is Bonekeep 1. It was like running a Cooper but with dice as your legs and feet.

They are replayable in Core mode.

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John and I discussed grandfathering at length. As John and I both advised in the first thread, this is the decision that the PFS team has made and is what we are going with.

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Soluzar wrote:
I assume that the beginning of Season 7 will still be on GenCon weekend? Also, I've heard there may be a new Guide to Organized Play v6.1 to account for some of the new changes (especially Core), is this true? Lastly, are we going to see the Faction Cards before or at the introduction to Season 7?

Yes

No

I don't remember off the top of my head.

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Hi all.

For PaizoCon, I still have one full volunteer spots available. I have seven open tables of Card Game OP to fill for the entire convention with three of those on Monday morning.

For Gen Con, there are 20 Tier 1 and 2 spots remaining. Twelve of the 20 are for Card Game OP and Card Game Demos. Tier 1 and 2 rewards include a free four day badge, free one-quarter share of a hotel room (you are assigned to a hotel room with 3 other volunteers), $10/slot store credit, volunteer goblin shirts, etc....

I also have approximately 4-5 Tier 3-5 slots remaining as well.

If interested, email me at mike.brock@paizo.com.

If you can offer to volunteer even one slot worth of time for the Card Game OP or demos at either show, every little bit helps.

Thanks!

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There are 20 Tier 1 and 2 spots remaining.

12 of these are for Card Game OP and Card Game Demos.

8 of these are for the RPG, including scenarios, Quests, and We Be Goblins/WBG Too.

We also have approximately 8-10 Tier 3-5 slots remaining as well.

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Jeff Morse wrote:
Guessing still sitting at 8 left. Tick tok

No. 3.5 rooms remaining. 2.5 of these are being held for tier 1 and 2 card game volunteers.

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thaX wrote:
Then why get a Wayfinder?

Because they are the symbol of being a Pathfinder agent and are rewarded for successful completion of The Confirmation (though generally not a field commission)? Sometimes an item is more than just the numbers it represents.

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kinevon wrote:

@Sarvei: That is probably why your VC has a VL, to cover an area that is difficult for him to reach regularly.

@Roger: If there is a nearby VC, you could discuss with him/her becoming a VL for them in your city. That would give you additional support you can call on, if you need it, without breaking the Paizo model. VCs cover a lot of territory. So much, in fact, that a recent VC retirement included splitting her territory in two.

Actually it was split into four and we currently have only appointed two of the four VCs.

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Roger Corbera wrote:
But can I be an independent venture lieutenant, without a Captain above me? There isn't any captain in my city, and I'm not sure I've enough time to be captain.

You can email me and we can discuss

I have tremendous appreciation for everything VCs and VLs do for their regions. Without them, PFS simply wouldn't be as awesome as it is.

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deusvult wrote:

Mike,

I'm pretty sure the OP was being passive/agressive sarcastic. He wasn't actually trying to get the GMs to cry, but to get someone (You) to address how giving Wizards easy access to noncore resources is unfair/biased towards what he (and presumably, others) consider is a class that is OP yet still allowed in Core. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you completely missed his point.

Fair enough. Post removed. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Well thank you Michael for being such a patient listener. I understand that from an OP perspective it may be hard to accommodate everyone. I'll stick to the "Encore" PFS mode for a while more I think, just keep in mind that some of us spend significant amount of $ on Paizo (darn shipping!) and perhaps ease up a bit more on what's allowed in future products (Scribe Scroll for wizards, yes? ;) )

Trust me, I'm aware of what subscribers spend. I converted my Dragon and Dungeon Magazines three year subscriptions into a charter superscriber spot before I was hired by Paizo. Part of the selling points to my wife and being able to accept the job was that I advised her how much money I would be saving on RPG books every month ;-)

We only limit things for op that simply aren't a good fit. To make sure it isn't just John and I imagining the poor fit, we have content review teams for every product released. These teams are made up of five VOs. Some products, such as Unchained, get multiple review teams (3 in the case of Unchained). John and I then take the report from the content review team, discuss the recommendations, and then I make a final decision what goes into Additional Resources. I understand that people want to use all of the options. I encourage it for home games. I allow almost everything in my home Giantslayer campaign. Unfortunately, not everything that is published fits well into a global organized play camipaign of 75000+ players.

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Lamontius wrote:


EDIT: AGGGGHHHHH MIKE BROCK STOLE MY IDEA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

2ND EDIT: okay so they were crayons and not pencils but STILL

This sounds like more Lamenting by Lamontius.

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
Can you please specificy what constitutes "everything" that I am controlling that you don't like?
With all due respect, no. I'm not going to go into specifics. Just know that I've been trying to promote PFS in my own little corner of the world here for years, and that it's fallen mostly into deaf ears for some time now. The going was good back in Season 1, but somewhere along the way something went wrong. The onerous guidelines, additional resources, etc. have become a huge detractor for newbies and experienced players alike. I'm trying to make the case to simplify the process while allowing people to play whatever they want. That is my request. I understand that it would take one year or more to get there, assuming there's even willingness to make this happen, so I'm not going to hold my breath. But if you want my honest opinion, this is what has become problematic for the campaign... the factions... not so much. When I'm off work come Friday the last thing I want to do is to spend another hour figuring out certs and the whole accounting part of the campaign. I do it reluctantly still, but for most GMs out there, they've stopped bothering and refuse to organize PFS events, instead reverting to home campaigns. It's there for you to do whatever you wish with it, and for the minions to come and dissect into ridiculousness.

Well, I guess I will exit this conversation then since I can't help provide further answers for you. On a side note, we did simplify the process. It's called the Core Mode for Pathfinder Society Organized Play. The Core Mode has no onerous guidelines, very little additional resources that affect it, etc...

As for "most GMs out there" have stopped bothering and refuse to organize PFS, that's a bit of a stretch. Maybe in your region that is the case (it's actually not since we are about to add a second VC to that region due to popularity of PFS) but the numbers I get from IT show that we have 200-400 new players join each week. This week alone we've added more than 15 regional coordinators in five different countries and eight states and now have more than 430 VOs, compared to the original 13 a year into PFS and 280 or so this time last year. On average the campaign has continued to grow at a rate of approximately 13,500 new players each year.

As for reverting to home campaigns, that's fantastic! They get to play Pathfinder RPG in the manner they deem fit and aren't "handicapped" by the rules set forth for OP. Sounds like a win-win to me.

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:

Have I reached that point where I've become jaded about buying tons of books that I can't use? I guess I have... there's no amount of homebrew, PFS (Core or Encore), or one shot that will result in a potential 20% use of all the Pathfinder stuff I now own.

Look, yes: I believe there should be a free for all Pathfinder campaign that allows all official Pathfinder Roleplaying Game and Pathfinder Campaign Setting content. I'd be ok if you limit the campaign to non-evil only for the sake of weeding out the undesirables, but at some point I'd also be ok if you create a side campaign that's for all evil PCs as well. If it's Pathfinder, it should be allowed. The world of Golarion has been set to "emerging guns" as a default, and so I'd be fine with such a campaign following that guideline. High tech stuff should be limited to Iron Gods campaign, so I'd be fine with a ban on that (unless a specific module starts with a few ray guns on the floor, each with enough charges in them to fire a dozen time... i.e. they fizzle to useless junk on module completion, etc.)

I completely understand that with the years, Pathfinder stuff has expanded to a level where it has put a load on campaign staff to keep tabs on. The solution is deregulation and simplicity: gold value caps should make sure nobody walks around with a golem or siege engines. I mean come on. Siege engines? miniaturized? you're aware some of them have a puny Ref save of 15 right? sigh...

So, I guess we've gone from "Pathfinder Society should do a 180 and allow all contents from all the books" to "Pathfinder Society should do a 90 and allow most contents from most of the books"?
Actually I think we're talking about 150 degree. I agree that certain limits on alignment and setting-specific guidelines on the level of tech available are not avoidable. Other than that yes, please simplify the darn process and stop trying to control everything. It really doesn't add to anyone's fun,...

Can you please specificy what constitutes "everything" that I am controlling that you don't like? Perhaps that would be easier to address. As people have already stated, PFS opens more than *most* home games as it is.

What is it that is specifically banned that you would like to see opened as legal? Once that is known, I'm sure there are a handful of explanations that can be provided why those things simply don't work in an OP setting.

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:

Have I reached that point where I've become jaded about buying tons of books that I can't use? I guess I have... there's no amount of homebrew, PFS (Core or Encore), or one shot that will result in a potential 20% use of all the Pathfinder stuff I now own.

Look, yes: I believe there should be a free for all Pathfinder campaign that allows all official Pathfinder Roleplaying Game and Pathfinder Campaign Setting content. I'd be ok if you limit the campaign to non-evil only for the sake of weeding out the undesirables, but at some point I'd also be ok if you create a side campaign that's for all evil PCs as well. If it's Pathfinder, it should be allowed. The world of Golarion has been set to "emerging guns" as a default, and so I'd be fine with such a campaign following that guideline. High tech stuff should be limited to Iron Gods campaign, so I'd be fine with a ban on that (unless a specific module starts with a few ray guns on the floor, each with enough charges in them to fire a dozen time... i.e. they fizzle to useless junk on module completion, etc.)

I completely understand that with the years, Pathfinder stuff has expanded to a level where it has put a load on campaign staff to keep tabs on. The solution is deregulation and simplicity: gold value caps should make sure nobody walks around with a golem or siege engines. I mean come on. Siege engines? miniaturized? you're aware some of them have a puny Ref save of 15 right? sigh...

So, I guess we've gone from "Pathfinder Society should do a 180 and allow all contents from all the books" to "Pathfinder Society should do a 90 and allow most contents from most of the books"?

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
So if we open all books and everything, you are ok with artifacts from the artifact books? Same thing with Mythic? Advanced firearms? Frag grenades and flame throwers? Laser guns and cybernetics? CE characters? How about antipaladin and lich characters? Piecemailed armor? Characters with siege engines?

artifacts: no

mythic: as long as it's given some thought
advanced firearms: no - emerging guns only
frag.... flame... laser... cyber...: you're being silly
CE characters: YES! finally!
antipaladin: YES
lich: you're being silly again... no limit playable undeads to ghouls, and maybe throw one vampire template out there once a year at GenCon...
piecemailed armor: is that in Ultimate Combat?
siege engines: if you're running a season of PFS on the high seas, hell yes, I'm counting on it.

How am I being silly? I took exactly what you said and asked questions from it. Your statement:

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
IMO the Pathfinder Society should do a 180 and allow all contents from all the books, and do away with that silly fame thing, and item tracking through adventure certs.

All contents from all books as you requested include everything I listed, even the stuff you called silly.

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:


mythic: as long as it's given some thought

If we are opening all content from the book as you suggested, why do we need to give it additional thought?

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:


advanced firearms: no - emerging guns only

This doesn't fit your request for "allow all contents from all the books"

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:


frag.... flame... laser... cyber...: you're being silly

This doesn't fit your request for "allow all contents from all the books" AP71 has Frag grenades and flame throwers. The Technology Guide has laser rifles and pistols and all manner of other weapons (sonic, arc, atom guns, grenade launchers nuclear resonators, etc...). Again, you did say "allow all contents from all the books"

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:


CE characters: YES! finally!
antipaladin: YES

How do you suppose this would work in OP where one of the three beliefs is cooperate?

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:


lich: you're being silly again... no limit playable undeads to ghouls, and maybe throw one vampire template out there once a year at GenCon...

Again, why are we limiting it if you advised "allow all contents from all the books"? The Bestiary has rules on creating a lich as a character.

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:


piecemailed armor: is that in Ultimate Combat?

Yes

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:


siege engines: if you're running a season of PFS on the high seas, hell yes, I'm counting on it.

How about for non high seas adventures? Players haev found a way they can shrink a siege engine, take it into a dungeon, unshrink it, and then use it. Why wouldn't that be allowed in all circumstances outside of High seas adventures.

Additionally, I forgot to add Hero Points. Should we include those as well?

I think it is safe to say that "allowing all contents from all the books" is probably not the healthiest choice for organized play though I encourage you to do so in a home game.

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Where are you located at?

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Lamontius wrote:
Mythic 1/2-Dragon Gestalt Jiggy wrote:
Lamontius wrote:
my level 32 chaotic evil psionic shadowcaster laser-guided machine gundragon antipaladin with mythic levels is ready
THERE IS ROOM IN MY PARTY FOR YOU

cool we will be placed at any table that complains about limitations or does not understand that core is core is core

srsly though
he has a really awesome backstory you will love it

"Limitations by Lamontius"

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:

Wayfinder-slotted ioun stones are a feature unique to the world of Golarion, with deep ties to the Pathfinder Society. I understand Core is Core, but the stuff that is unique to the Pathfinder Society should be allowed, as well as anything found in the Inner Sea World Guide. If "there's just too many books now" is the reason for Core, at least put some key Golarion-flavored items and feats in your Core Campaign guidelines... that way those who won't buy the Campaign Setting can still be on an equal footing.

Otherwise, the Core is Core movement starts looking like the Core is Greyhawk movement. I honestly don't get this Core shame limitation trend. IMO the Pathfinder Society should do a 180 and allow all contents from all the books, and do away with that silly fame thing, and item tracking through adventure certs. For GM audit purpose the only thing a player should have to spit out is the total GP value of his character's gear... there. You've dealt with 99% of all the abuse and rules misreading in one blow.

So if we open all books and everything, you are ok with artifacts from the artifact books? Same thing with Mythic? Advanced firearms? Frag grenades and flame throwers? Laser guns and cybernetics? CE characters? How about antipaladin and lich characters? Piecemailed armor? Characters with siege engines?

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Usual Suspect wrote:
I am marginally familiar with how room assignments get sent out. I've volunteered for other groups running games at Gen Con; and we get e-mailed when rooms are assigned closer to the con. Are rooms assigned the same way by Paizo? I don't have a roommate preference, just curious as to how things work.

I assign rooms as people volunteer. Once a room fills, I send out notice to all four people in the room of who each is so that sleeping arrangements, ellergies, etc.., can be discussed. Once Gen Con sends me confirmation numbers 2-3 weeks before the show, I send those to each volunteer for their records. I believe I've already sent notice to you about whom your room mates are.

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Dave Setty wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
End of night one and I was able to get through all the emails sent to me today. We have about 10 hotel rooms remaining.
In light of this post, did you receive the email I sent last night? I haven't heard back.

Yes and I sent your schedule. I will email again.

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Soluzar wrote:

I guess I have two questions:

There are three specials this year? Are any of them GenCon exclusives?

Is there a snowballs chance in hell in actually getting a room?

None are Gen Cn exclusive. We tried that once and it didn't go over too well.

I have 8 rooms left for 32 tier 1 or 2 volunteers.

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Queek Thornflower Fizzlewaithe wrote:

I've never Ben to GenCon before but I've heard its a great time. This looks like the year I will finally get to go. Before sending in my volunteer email, I have two questions:

What days does the hotel booking cover? (So I know whether I can make it out for the 8am Thursday slot) and

Is there a practical difference between tier 1 and tier 2 other than the extra slot of GMing?

Thanks for helping a noob. :)

Check in on Wednesday. Check out on Monday.

The boon will be different for tier 1 vs tier 2. You will also received additional store credit.

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thaX wrote:

Darn it! I missed the posting for volunteers again.

Any chance that any tier 1 positions are still available?

Yes. I have about 8 rooms left.

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End of night one and I was able to get through all the emails sent to me today. We have about 10 hotel rooms remaining.

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medtec28 wrote:
Billy Darios wrote:
medtec28 wrote:
Was hoping there would be more than just season 6 up there this year. Guess I'll be doing other things at gencon this year.
There is season 7 as well
And I'll try to play those, but i was at gencon 2 years ago and they had a smattering of older play. I haven't played season 6 since my bad experience at gencon last year, and neither have any of the group I'll be going with.

That smattering of older seasons was to celebrate the five year anniversary of PFS. But, having to muster 65 different scenarios every slot almost killed my HQ staff and I don't want to put them through that again.

You should try some of the rest of the Season 6. Judging an entire season on the first three scenarios isn't likely the best practice. Read the reviews. A good many have nothing to do with technology and you might be pleasantly surprised.

In addition to the three new season 7 scenarios and the four new specials, we will also have six new quests based around the new Occult Adventures.

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Matthew Pittard wrote:
How many of the original 13 are left?

5 (6 if you count me)

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250 Volunteers processed. 50 of 65 hotel rooms filled. Time for dinner and drinks and I will get back to assigning more volunteers.

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I have replied to 9 emails thus far with the following:

Do you need shirts? If So, what size? Is this the email tied to both your Gen Con and PaizoCon email accounts?

Please include this info on your initial email.

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Jeff Merola wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:

Added a spoiler tag

Can you fix the title, too? It still has a spoiler in it.

Done

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Please join me in congratulating Royce Thigpen on his promotion from Janesville, WI, VL to Madison, WI VC!

Job well done, Royce!

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I wanted to take a minute to welcome aboard the new Venture-Captain assigned to South Dakota. I will let Phillip Goettsch introduce himself, advise about the websites he will utilize for coordinating, locations where PFS will be played and any other information he wishes to share. He was previously the VC of Memphis, TN.

Welcome back to the team!

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I wanted to take a minute to welcome aboard the new Venture-Captain assigned to Novosibirsk, Russia. I will let Roman Brontisky introduce himself, advise about the websites he will utilize for coordinating, locations where PFS will be played and any other information he wishes to share.

Welcome to the team!

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Robyn, as I advised at our VO dinner at Orccon when we discussed the reorganization of the LA region, you will be missed. Your efforts have been tremendous. Your leadership has been outstanding. Guiding the new changes of the region and reorganization of that area, as well as leading the nomination and changes to VO leadership team for the next phase, is much appreciated. Good luck in your future endeavors.

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From the Guide:

Any Seeker with sufficient Fame and experience can purchase scrolls containing 7th-, 8th-, and 9th-level spells, following the price guidelines in the Core Rulebook. Access to these spells is restricted to scrolls and is not available for spell-casting services. Upon reaching 13th level, Seekers are eligible to select spells or purchase 7th-level scrolls. Upon reaching 15th level, they are eligible to select spells or purchase 8th-level scrolls. Upon reaching 17th level, they are eligible to select spells or purchase 9th-level scrolls

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Interesting read this far as it is almost the complete opposite of this thread.

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Walter Sheppard wrote:

Thanks for the response Mike. I asked David to throw this question up here after last nights game.

** spoiler omitted **

I knew the answer was currently no, but I wanted the idea to be brought to your attention. This is something relatively easy and neat that could be opened up at some point in the future. It would certainly spice up older chronicles for the Core campaign.

Still having tons of fun in Core without it though. Level 5 monk!

That would certainly be cool. Unfortunately, I see it exploited where Gms list things, people then turn around and sell it for gold. Then, people ask that the GM be able to add anything found in game to Chronicle sheets and it just spirals out of control.

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David_Bross wrote:

If something is encountered in the scenario, can a GM write it on the chronicle sheet?

It seems like items such as ghost salt weapon blanch and adamantine weapon blanch would be useful if characters could acquire them in core from chronicles having them.

Unless it is a spell book or scroll that is scribed or learned, the answer is no.

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Chris Mortika wrote:
pH unbalanced wrote:

Does anyone know if the "grandfathering shenanigans" around aasimar and tiefling were all that prevalent, or were more of a messageboard phenomenon?

I know of three cities in the upper midwest where dozens of players ran through "The Confirmation" or "First Steps 1" with an aasimar / tiefling. Nobody considered it cheating or shenanigans.

for the sake of perspective, loads of people played their Lantern Lodge and Shadow Lodge characters through the respective retirement scenarios before the season end / deadline, and nobody considered that to be shenanigans. Years ago, lots of people ran their PCs through the announced-to-be-retired Season 0 scenarios, before the deadline, and they weren't accused of cheating, either.

There were also multiple, 28 minute runs of Master of the Fallen Fortress (up to 8 a day).

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Dhenn wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Exguardi wrote:
Pathfinder Player Companion: Familiar Folio wrote:
and the inside back cover are legal for play, except augur kyton, beheaded, ceru, clockwork familiar, coral capuchin, doru div, dweomercat cub, faerie dragon, impundulu, isitoq, pipefox, raktavarna rakshasa, ratling, shadow drake, shikigami kami, sin seeker, skvader, spirit oni, tidepool dragon, tripurasura, and wolpertinger
*whistles* That's a lot of exceptions! I don't have the book in front of me, but either there's an impossible amount of Improved Familiars listed or that list would be shorter if it just explicitly legalized certain familiars.
Primarily it is intended to maintain the same allowed/not-allowed familiars as noted by other resources on the page.
I noticed that the Harbinger Archon is not legal according to the Bestiary 3 entry, but is not excluded here. Is that intentional or an oversight? I didn't check for any other discrepancies, and only noticed this one because I'd had my eye on the Chosen One.

It is an oversight. I will correct in the next update.

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Gregory Connolly wrote:
I also love how some people who play PFS, namely those who are venture officers, got warning that this was coming down. The argument that this is fair because nobody had notice coming from someone who admits to having notice is rich.

We didn't warn VOs specifically so they wouldn't have to deal with this.

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John and I discussed grandfathering at length. As John has advised, this is the decision that the PFS team has made and is what we are going with.

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As others have advised, you can not retrain into unavailable options.

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Congrats! Thanks for helping make PFS awesome in your area.

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Assume the player made an error, go over the rules with the player too ensure it won't happen again, and then game and have fun.

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