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Marco Massoudi wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:
Uuuh, did I miss announcement about shipping orders being later again? I guess its summer after all ._.

Shipping starts either tomorrow (june 14th) or friday, june 15th.

I believe to remember that it was similiar last year after Paizocon, which is quite understandable.

I imagine Gencon will have some repercussions too.

Paizocon or not, this feels like a pretty normal timeframe for a shipping window for me.

Given it is just past Paizocon then grateful to the Customer Service / Warehouse teams for making this happen.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Plus, many people gain a lot of satisfaction at seeing a printed book. Something about holding a bundle of pages in your hands and knowing there's a whole story contained in them is a rather wondrous feeling that simply doesn't transfer to a pdf.

I completely agree with this. I am lucky enough to have a complete set of Pathfinder AP volumes in hard copy and sometimes I just like looking at them on my shelf (well, shelves as somewhere around Hell's Rebels they spread to two shelves). Paizo does put out great quality printed products that are good to enjoy in physical form.

I would encourage you to browse the more obscure online retailers if you haven't already done so for copies that might have been left behind and be available for reasonable prices rather than the ridiculous prices that are charged by some Amazon Marketplace and E-bay sellers. I also agree that it is frustrating that Paizo does not reprint out of stock books even though I also understand their business reasons for not doing so.


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Auth email received. All looks good.


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Just to flag that Pathfinder AP #130 is not showing anywhere on the My Subscriptions page in my account. The next volume to ship according to that page is PF #131 which is incorrect. Appreciate that info is not always accurate but given I've not had April SF AP volume yet I wanted to avoid a problem with May's shipment as well.

Thanks


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Steve Geddes wrote:
Medriev wrote:
Medriev wrote:

Hi

I've received my April shipment and despite all emails and the shipping note saying that the SF AP volume I would receive would be The Thirteenth Gate (and having access to the right download), the book in the package is The Ruined Clouds.

Order number is 4754732. Grateful for advice please on what I should do as I've no desire to pay for separate shipping to the UK for the book I should have had nor do I want to be out of pocket returning the duplicate book I've had by mistake to the US.

Thanks

Hi

I've now sent three emails about this and not had an acknowledgement which is not at all like the Paizo customer service I have come to know and love.

Grateful if someone could look at this order and advise on when i might receive my subscription copy of The Thirteenth Gate please.

Many thanks

Medriev

They’re currently behind and only up to emails prior to April 16th

I daresay the end of the PF Playtest preorder window, together with the shipping charge errors last month have both caused a significant deluge of customer queries.

I appreciate that doesn’t really help but it may at least offer something in the way of explanation. (I’m sure you won’t need to return the wrongly shipped book).

Thanks Steve. Finally noticed this thread today so will stop pestering now. And I had assumed the good people at Paizo would not be likely to ask me to return the duplicate copy of The Ruined Clouds but I'll wait to hear from them.

Sorry Customer Service people, I will shut up now and wait until you reach my emails.


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Medriev wrote:

Hi

I've received my April shipment and despite all emails and the shipping note saying that the SF AP volume I would receive would be The Thirteenth Gate (and having access to the right download), the book in the package is The Ruined Clouds.

Order number is 4754732. Grateful for advice please on what I should do as I've no desire to pay for separate shipping to the UK for the book I should have had nor do I want to be out of pocket returning the duplicate book I've had by mistake to the US.

Thanks

Hi

I've now sent three emails about this and not had an acknowledgement which is not at all like the Paizo customer service I have come to know and love.

Grateful if someone could look at this order and advise on when i might receive my subscription copy of The Thirteenth Gate please.

Many thanks

Medriev


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I've been playing RPGs for 30+ years and I don't think I've ever sat down and read a rulebook cover to cover. I skim the rulebook so I know where things are. Read highlights and then look up rules as I need them so I don't think what you're highlighting is a new thing.

I also think tabletop RPGs will always offer something that computer games and even VR games will not and that is the fact that their scope is infinite. You can literally go anywhere and (at least try) to do anything within the world you're playing. Even with the most powerful computers we are still unable to simulate an entire living breathing planet which is what an RPG allows the GM to put in front of players if they want to. Until computing power catches up to that I don't see RPGs dying by the wayside anytime soon.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Medriev wrote:

Hi

I've received my April shipment and despite all emails and the shipping note saying that the SF AP volume I would receive would be The Thirteenth Gate (and having access to the right download), the book in the package is The Ruined Clouds.

Order number is 4754732. Grateful for advice please on what I should do as I've no desire to pay for separate shipping to the UK for the book I should have had nor do I want to be out of pocket returning the duplicate book I've had by mistake to the US.

Thanks

They generally will arrange for a free replacement (with free shipping) for mistakenly packaged products.

Furthermore, they generally don't ask people to ship them back, especially across the pond.

They're off for the weekend by now, otherwise they'd probably say the same thing. :-)

Thanks. Assumed that would probably be the case but in ten years of subscribing I've never encountered this before so I was a bit surprised. I've emailed Customer Service so will wait for a response.


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Hi

I've received my April shipment and despite all emails and the shipping note saying that the SF AP volume I would receive would be The Thirteenth Gate (and having access to the right download), the book in the package is The Ruined Clouds.

Order number is 4754732. Grateful for advice please on what I should do as I've no desire to pay for separate shipping to the UK for the book I should have had nor do I want to be out of pocket returning the duplicate book I've had by mistake to the US.

Thanks


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Also loving Natural 11. A great podcast.

First since GCP to really hook me. Keep up the good work.


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Not clear exactly what you're asking for but a few thoughts:

- Tracking time in the campaign is easy enough. Pick a start date and use the calendar from the Inner Sea World Guide (or the PF Wiki) to track from there. I tend to use the publication date of the module / book 1 of the AP as a start date (eg. August 2011 = Arodus 4711 and so on).

- If he's asking about events in other APs then it's your call if they've happened off screen or not. My personal preference is that an AP / module doesn't happen unless the group has played it thereby maintaining a single continuity for my own personal Golarion but I'm a bit OCD like that.

- Historical events outside APs and modules should happen when their time rolls around although Paizo rightly keeps these to a minimum to ensure PCs are driving the setting chronology forward.

Hope that helps but if there is specific advice that's missing then shout.


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James Jacobs wrote:
Steve Geddes wrote:

Paizo celebrated issue 100, it just didn’t get a lot of buy in from the fans (at least that was my perspective, anyhow. I don’t mean that in any accusatory way).

For what it's worth, this is 100% my take on how it played out. Issue 100 was a BIG deal for us; we made it a bigger issue, put a poster map in there, and did our best to make sure the adventure and content were extra awesome. But it ended up being a non-event for whatever reason. As the author of said adventure, it was more than a little disappointing, I must admit, but not everything in life can be super, I guess!

I'll add here that I loved issue 100, particularly the adventure and the extra NPC guest stars for each prior AP (an inspired idea). Sorry for not making more of that at the time.


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Hmm wrote:

I want more AP flipmats for Starfinder too!

Hmm

Me too.

Never understood why PF doesn't do this more often. Cheaper to produce as no new art order. AP customers are practically guaranteed to buy and homebrew customers will buy because they don't care that it's actually a map of a dungeon under Sandpoint (or wherever) since they don't use the setting. Everybody wins surely?


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Vagabond? wrote:
As listed above, what adventure path would be solid for a party of investigators who investigate various things?

Curse of the Crimson Throne could certainly work, for the earlier books at least. The first two books of Rise of the Runelords could work with some effort. I struggle to think of any others if you want to focus (even just initially) on investigating things.

Of course, a party of investigators could easily be shoe-horned into any AP if they are intended to be the party that happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when everything starts.

Interesting party concept though. Should be interesting.


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Douglas Muir 406 wrote:
Urath DM wrote:
Paizo will only do a compilation book if they feel 1) it will sell enough to be profitable and 2) that they have the resources available to work on it.

^ This this this.

There will continue to be threads, because there are a fair number of people who loved the hardcovers, and because everyone has a favorite AP. So this conversation will go on indefinitely. But Paizo doesn't look like it has the resources right now, and it's an open question whether they would throw them at a hardcover even if they did, because it's not clear whether the hardcovers were all that profitable.

People don't want to hear it, but "None" and "Never" are strong contenders here.

Doug M.

I agree (mostly) with what you are saying here but we heard "none" and "never" right before the Curse hardcover was announced. Mostly because I (literally) dreamed of big hardcover adventures when I was playing AD&D 2E and only Paizo ever really delivered it (there were some smaller 3E ones) I will continue to hope that there is another hardcover AP in the pipeline (and follow the conversation as it continues).

As for which one it might be. My head is persuaded by the arguments for Kingmaker (and I would buy it) but my heart would like Second Darkness revised and updated to PF if only to save me doing that myself. Updating SD also appeals to the part of me that thinks Paizo should update the 3.5E APs for neatness. I understand that neatness does not equate to profits and so my money would be on Kingmaker with "None" and "Never" a close second and third but here's hoping.


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Erik Mona's recent interview with Know Direction is worth a listen He explains, as I recall, that Paizo has had to deprioritise some lines due to launching Starfinder and losing several key staff recently who haven't all been replaced. They want to get the Modules line back up and running but just don't have the resources within the company right now.

Interestingly, on a separate issue, he also said they had half a dozen Pathfinder Tales manuscripts ready to go when they find another partner.

If I've misremembered any of the interview then anyone else who's heard it (or Paizo people) please correct me. I wouldn't want to spread misleading info.


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walter mcwilliams wrote:

This biggest problem in our game is that death, especially at low and mid levels can be beneficial. With wealth-by-level returning PC's can cherry-pick their hardware, where as the surviving PC's have live with what's found in treasure hoards/player created/purchased in the campaign world.

My group doesn't have any real solution to this but as a GM and Player I don't like it. Next time I'm in the DM chair I think I will have a house nerfing this

Agree this can be an issue but it quickly disappears once the new PC has to live with whatever is found / created / bought.

On the OP's issue, the story-minded part of me thinks a new PC should be at level with a well-developed backstory to explain how they got from 1st level to level x while the simulationist in me leans towards the Order of the Amber Die approach where death means rolling up a new 1st level PC. On balance, the story side of me wins but it's a tricky problem.


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RedXian wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:

Erik Mona was interviewed on the latest Know Direction podcast.

He said that they were not getting any better distribution or sales with Tor than before. They want a partner who can improve this.

Also, people leaving has disrupted the hunt for a new partner. PF Tales doesn't even have an editor for the line at the moment.

And, as a low-profit line, it's not first on the list to get sorted.

FWIW. You can find the full interview on Youtube, it's Know Direction 171 and the PF Tales question is asked at around the 43m56s mark.

Erik also mentioned there is no plans for a Starfinder Tales until they have resolved the Pathfinder Tales distribution issue.

Also there are a couple of big projects they are trying to get through and "once we get done through those we going to take a very serious hack at trying to figure out what to do about this fiction".

There was no mention about the missing Audible versions of last 3 released books.

I thank Erik for his candor.

There is good news in the interview which is that they have five or six books ready to go once this does become unstuck.

And I agree that Erik's honesty in the interview was welcome.


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Got mine too. Thanks


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Just went to look over the new scenarios and found they weren't in my downloads despite being available on the site.

Disappointing this keeps happening. Hope it's fixed soon.


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Thanks Palidian for starting this debate and articulating your arguments so well throughout.

I don't agree with your assessment of Starfinder but I understand some of the points raised. So far, I have enjoyed SF but there are things in the system that I think PF does much better.

Crucially, I agree with others that building NPCs differently from PCs can break immersion in the game. It hasn't so far in SF but I played 4E for a while and the deal breaker there was that NPCs were completely different from PCs. My key test with that was whether you could build a rival NPC party at the same level as the PCs at the same encounter level. In 4E that was impossible by RAW but I haven't reached a point in SF yet where that might become an issue.

I would say, in case there are plans for a PF 2E based on SF, that I would not buy that. PF stands very effectively on its own as a fantasy system and turning it into a Starfinder clone would put me off it (and I have enough PF material to run / play games for the next 200-300 years anyway).

Anyway, I agree that SF is not for everyone so best of luck with your Pathfinder AP. There are so many and they are all brilliant (a seperate debate I'm sure) so I'm sure you'll have a blast.


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Worth noting as well that if you link your Paizo account to your FG account and you have the Anniversary Edition PDF you get a huge discount on the FG package.

I bought the Curse FG package in the last couple of weeks just because with the discount it was too good a price to ignore, knowing how well Smite Works put this stuff together (I have RotR and some of Kingmaker in FG too).

Agree with Steff as well that you need to familiarise yourself with it and develop your own way of using it as there is just so much material you could get lost in it.


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Thanks both. Will check out those suggestions. Found one Dead Suns podcast that wasn't bad but it wasn't one of those. Will check out Critical Role and Adventure Zone as well.

Much appreciated.


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As a more or less solo player for many years (I've just started teaching my daughter Pathfinder) I'd encourage you to please keep this up. Writing and playing is a struggle and I've experimented with many many methods over the years but it is good fun and worth persevering with.


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Just found this thread and so, as I only use Twitter to complain, thought I'd put my praise for the GCP here.

Discovered the podcast during my summer break and binge-listened through August and into September until I was caught up. As others have said, there are numerous episodes where I have laughed out loud and I always end up smiling when I'm listening (which attracts weird looks on commuter trains).

Brilliant work guys. I am now an avid weekly listener and Patreon supporter. My only (minor) critique is that there isn't enough. I miss the days of binge-listening when I had dozens of eps to catch up on and despite searching have not found anything that's anywhere near as good. Can't wait for the planned new content. Keep it coming!!


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I've had the order confirmation email but have no PDFs in my downloads (same as last month).

Not a big deal. Will patiently await your work to solve the problem.

Thanks and keep up the good work.


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Fedor Checherov wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Fedor Checherov wrote:

Pathfinder Society Subscription charged card yesterday - but no scenarios in downloads and still pending order.

For instance, today bought Starfinder Subsription and five previous scenarios - all are in downloads immediately!

I am just unlucky, or PFS scenarios are not distributed yet?

The scenarios released yesterday, though I'm not involved in the distribution side of things such that I would know why you might not have received yours. If you have experienced an issue with payment or delivery, I recommend making a post in the Customer Service board or emailing customer.service@paizo.com.
Did that - emailed customer.service - already, but didn`t get even automatic "do not reply we are busy" reply

This is a problem that is affecting multiple customers. See this thread:

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uos7?October-2017-Society-Scenario-New-Release s#16


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Hate to nag and appreciate I'm in a different timezone but is there any news on a fix for this? Annoying to pay for downloads that aren't available.

Thanks


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Can I add my name to the list of those who have received an email but downloads not available?

Thanks


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Been unsure about Starfinder but think I'm sold. Can I start a subscription with AP volume 1? Website doesn't seem to allow this.


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Steve Geddes wrote:
However, Amazon is notorious for being late. It's often the cheapest option, but there have been many, many threads over they years imploring Paizo to 'fix' Amazon's tardiness and there isn't really anything Paizo can do about it.

Agreed. I'm in the UK and my experience of Amazon (as a Prime member) is that Paizo products arrive several weeks after the release date. My preferred option for Pathfinder (and will be for Starfinder as soon as it's confirmed) is subscription direct from Paizo. Even with shipping from the US I get products around the end of the month and way earlier than Amazon would ship.


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Not got through the whole PDF yet (and hardcopy on its way) but can I say that Crystal's foreword for this AP volume is outstanding.

A brilliant piece of writing and a credit to Paizo. Well done to everyone involved.


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Sara Marie wrote:
The issue that caused this has been dealt with. Individuals who had this issue should contact HB support via the contact address I listed above and HB will assist in resolving it.

All sorted. HB have sent an updated code that works perfectly.

Many thanks both.


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Sara Marie wrote:

We are looking into this and it appears to be on the Humble Bundle side a code generation issue. We are working with them to resolve this as soon as possible to get folks who went with the $15 tier the correct PDFs. If this happened to you, you can contact them at ** spoiler omitted **

thanks
sara marie

Edited to update details.

Thanks. I have raised this directly with Humble Bundle as well. Hope someone can resolve this.


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Not sure if this is the right place to put this but just donated to the Pathfinder Worldscape Humble Bundle mostly to get the comics and Season 5 PFS scenarios but despite donating at the $15 tier the codes I redeemed seem to open the $8 tier twice and not the $15 tier. I certainly have no access to the season 5 scenarios.

Is this a glitch anyone else is experiencing and how do I fix it? Have also raised on the Humble Bundle site.

Thanks


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Katina Davis wrote:

Hello Medriev,

Thanks for letting us know about this! I've taken a look into your account, and it seems that your subscription was started after your November order had already been generated, which is why it didn't join in automatically. Once our subscription orders are generated, you'd have to either add items to that order during the shipping step of checkout, or we'd have to move them manually.

It looks like the Villain Codex was put into your sidecart, so it should be sending out with your next round of subscriptions. This way, it shouldn't incur any extra shipment fees. However, if you'd like to have it sent out earlier, just let us know and we can get it on the way.

I hope this helps! Just let me know if there are any further questions or concerns that you may have, and I'll be glad to help out.

Thanks, and have a great day!
Katina

Thanks Katina. It's now showing in my next subscription shipment so all sorted.

Appreciate the quick response and resolution.


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I restarted my Pathfinder RPG subscription in the last few days hoping Villain Codex would ship with my other subscription items and it seems to be stuck as a separate order. Any reason it didn't ship with my subscription as shipping costs to the UK are not cheap and the exchange rate is upping the cost even more at the moment (our fault admittedly)?


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Marco Massoudi wrote:

I just ordered Second Darkness #1 (AP13) for €32 & SD#2 (AP14) for €20 from amazon.

I would have ordered them from Paizo directly BUT with unknown shipping and tax costs it is too bothersome.

I wish Paizo had a european warehouse and have been saying so for years but sadly it ain't so.

Without wanting to threadjack (Great news on the hardcover CoCT - can't wait!!), I'm also a European (UK) customer and I understand the issue.

Frankly, though, as a subscriber I find it easy enough to order additional products and sidecart them so they ship at minimal cost with everything else. I ordered the Emerald Spire Flip Map pack this month as a birthday treat and it will arrive with my sub order at a reasonable shipping cost.

Amazon is useful but generally I only catch up on Pathfinder RPG books there where the PDFs are less useful (as the PRD covers the rules).


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bugleyman wrote:
Arachnofiend wrote:
Oh no, using a computer to manage information. In 2016. How horrible.

There's difference between using a computer because it's handy and using one because it's necessary.

But I suppose if you enjoy complexity for complexity's sake...

I don't necessarily enjoy complexity but I don't think most PF books add complexity. They add new feats or new monsters or new classes but all of these obey (for the most part) the same basic rules in the Core Rulebook.

I do think that for most modern RPGs that expand beyond a few supplements computer tools are very useful to save referencing multiple books at the table.

Ultimately, I like what Paizo is doing and I very much hope they are making enough money out of it to keep doing it. Reinventing everything with a new system is something I've been burned by before and I have no desire to have the dozens and dozens of PF products I have on my shelves made obsolete by the launch of a new edition. Realistically, I have more material now than I can use in my lifetime but I (as many on these boards seem to be) am a collector and I will keep buying the latest PF products as long as they are useful. Once they become less than useful or incompatible with what I have then I will stop buying them.

PS. This thread is such a deja vu throwback to the WotC boards it's almost depressing me.


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Frankly, nothing would make me stop buying PF products quicker than an announcement of a new edition.

PF is well supported by technology options that make managing the volume of content easier (Hero Lab is the best example of this IMHO) and in the published lines references to non-core products almost always include a full stat block / rules summary in case you haven't hoovered up every product (which I for the most part have anyway).

The big problem with 3E/3.5E bloat was that later products almost required you to own previous products and it was so difficult, in the absence of good IT solutions at the time, to keep track of every feat you might want or every monster you might want to use. PF solves both of these problems with a commitment to repeat non-core info where it's used and licensed software solutions (plus the PRD).

To my mind, the problems for players / GMs that usually lead to new editions therefore don't exit so unless there is a business reason (which I highly doubt there is at the moment) I see no reason for there to be a PF 2E in the foreseeable future.


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Steel_Wind wrote:

For some groups they are too long; for others (though a smaller number) they are too short.

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Here's to issue #101-200. Salut!

This. Brilliantly put.

AP volumes are without a doubt the most usable RPG content I have ever come across in 30 odd years engaged in this wonderful hobby of ours. I have every single one (despite lapsing my subs occasionally when finances required it and having to catch up) and I intend to get the next 100 as well.

Use them as setting books, use them as standalone adventures or use them as intended but this is the model that works for Paizo and clearly the one that works for a lot of us so let's not tinker with it.


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I don't really see any of the APs as short in-game, particularly at lower levels. Before the heroes start accruing some really useful healing, just recovering from a day's adventuring can take a few days.

Travel time adds more time and presents an opportunity for side-quests depending on how wedded to the strict AP storyline you are.

I'd also recommend adding training time (costing no gold) whenever PCs gain levels. Creighton Broadhurst (of LG fame) uses a 1 week per level gained method which would certainly slow down any campaign to a more realistic pace. You can see how it is used narratively in his session summaries here. As you'll see, this offers those not training the opportunity to go off and accomplish things on their own although this may not work with groups where everyone makes it to every session.

All in all, I think there are plenty of ways a GM can pace an AP outside the adventure as written.


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Medriev wrote:
Me too, plus 7 other votes for my wife, daughter, 2 dogs and 3 cats. All big Sandpoint / Paizo / PF / AP fans (honestly, I'm almost certain they are). ;)

On the made up basis that I can vote here once a year for this, count this post as my big Hell Yes for 2015. Plus my eight completely unrelated votes above should also be counted if any independent election observers are checking this ;)


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Personally, I would throw a whole lot of Skull and Shackles in there and depending on where you are setting this (Greyhawk? he says hopefully), plotting to overthrow the nobles of Sasserine could morph into overthrowing the pirate king (or Sea Prince as you prefer).

There was also a very good Savage Tidings article in Dragon that detailed the area around Sasserine including lots of juicy dungeons to explore. Kain mentions War of the Wielded which is worth a look as well.

I have been mulling over a Shackled City / Savage Tide / Skull and Shackles / Serpent's Skull mashup for years but never really got far with details.


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Ok. Had my shipping e-mail today so all good. Off to download my new shiny things. Thanks all.


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Medriev wrote:
Sharaya wrote:
Medriev wrote:


Had no shipping notice so far. Not really worried yet as shipping to UK takes a while anyway but like having access to the downloads. Should I assume this is still pending as I restarted my lapsed subscriptions earlier this month?

It looks like there were some submission timing differences that resulted in your items staying in your sidecart.

I've kicked them out of your sidecart to an order that is set to ship as soon as possible. You should get a new order confirmation email and we'll get those on their way soon.

Thanks!
~Sharaya

Brilliant. Thanks. The quick response and resolution is much appreciated.

Sorry. Whilst the order has gone through again I've had no shipping e-mail and so no access to downloads. The shipment has disappeared from My Subscriptions but not shipped apparently. A bit disappointed by that since, as I say, access to the downloads is great while the shipment makes its way across the Atlantic (and presumably across the US first).


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Sharaya wrote:
Medriev wrote:


Had no shipping notice so far. Not really worried yet as shipping to UK takes a while anyway but like having access to the downloads. Should I assume this is still pending as I restarted my lapsed subscriptions earlier this month?

It looks like there were some submission timing differences that resulted in your items staying in your sidecart.

I've kicked them out of your sidecart to an order that is set to ship as soon as possible. You should get a new order confirmation email and we'll get those on their way soon.

Thanks!
~Sharaya

Brilliant. Thanks. The quick response and resolution is much appreciated.


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Sara Marie wrote:
The warehouse has let me know that they have wrapped up shipping all packing slips that had new release subscription items that could be shipped. If you have not had your order ship and you do not know why, please let us know! Please keep in mind we will be out of the office Friday, May 22 and Monday May 25th for PaizoCon/Memorial Day.

Had no shipping notice so far. Not really worried yet as shipping to UK takes a while anyway but like having access to the downloads. Should I assume this is still pending as I restarted my lapsed subscriptions earlier this month?


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Bit late to this thread by had to throw in my views.

For the most part, timeline advancement as it has been done for other settings (GH and FR being my main points of reference) has worked very badly.

My main gripe with GH was that so little of the setting had actually been explored in books when they decided to tear it apart with the Greyhawk Wars. I also didn't really buy the whole world war scenario anyway as in a pseudo-medieval setting such a war would be very unlikely.

FR suffered from too many authors writing their own grand stories in the same setting. It became a setting that was dominated by events beyond the PCs' control. The Avatar series has been mentioned above but there are many many others. PCs should change a setting not authors or else what's the point of playing.

That brings me to my wholehearted support for the Paizo approach. As James says above, advancing the setting almost requires a new GM to be familiar with everything that has gone before. Authors certainly need that knowledge and so attracting new GMs, players and authors becomes harder and the setting and the game suffers as a result. I don't actually use Golarion (at the moment) as I shoehorn Paizo stuff into Greyhawk but the setting is well designed and the fiction I have read so far focusses on relatively small players dealing with their own local struggles. Advancing the setting so that APs have happened would immediately make those APs irrelevant to some players and so affect the sales of those products. Paizo is in a great place and producing great products so I think the approach works very well.


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Very sad news. Condolences to his family and friends. Rest in peace Mike.

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