Matthew Morris's page

So the Paladin has to pay for atonement spells or the wizard has to pay to replace their imp.

I have to say, I'm on the side of the Paladin on this one.

The defense of the Imp is that its so uberly powerful that its the very bestest familiar there is. Oh goodie.

The Defense of the Paladin is that its .. well, what paladin do. They go killing and smiting evil. I'd hazard a guess that a paladin *without* this special oath is going to want to play whackamole with the imp anyway.

Why is the Paladin the source of this issue? The Wizard knows at character creation that unless it's a home and private game that he *is going to* come across a paladin. Probably several. Most likely quite a few. Yet he chooses this E V I L familiar anyway. He is the guy who needs to be made to swap characters. Every. Single. Time. Bar none.
Why? Because his mere presence is griefing the paladin.

It looks like I'm in the minority here, and i'm fine with that. But it really does just boggle me how folks are falling in with Sir Evil Pet here and not with Sir Good Guy. Are there that many neutral pathfinders who really just don't care about imps? cuz really- every Good aligned person should be very much against Sir Evil Pet even being in their group.

Imps are enemies. They are to be killed and looted or banished.

Two people made a choice.
One made a choice for more power, knowing it would 100% create a conflict down the line.
The other made a choice to combat evil in the most effective way possible.

Why are we siding with the evil guy?

I am confused.

-S

Why do they exploit men??!!?! They just KNOW that if I see a picture of Ezren, I will be lost for hours in his chisiled chin, luscious lox of hair, strong fatherly presence. And don't get me started on his cane.

First, to "exploit women" there have to be real women to be exploited, Paizo uses cartoon images.

Second, Paizo has a strict PG-13 rule. There are no nude men or women in paizo's products. Period. Saying that there are only shows how little you know of their product.

Third. . . Seriously? This is what you want to crusade against? The sex industry exploits people every day, they traffic in humans, many of whom are under age. Ditto with the drug industry. Warlords in third world countries have kidnapped tens of thousands of children and turned them into soldiers. And you want to crusade against cartoon images of women in pg - 13 situations? Wow. . . Way to try and make the world a better place.

Sorcerer: "Hi! I'm a spontaneous caster. I can cast spells without preparing them so I'm always ready."

Wizard: "Hi! I'm a prepared caster. I can prepare any spell in my book and cast it when I'm ready."

Level 8:

Sorcerer: "I cast D.Door"
Wizard: "I cast D.Door -- then I cast summon monster 4."
Sorcerer: "I cast D.Door again."
Wizard: "I cast stoneskin."
Sorcerer: "I cast D.Door again."
Wizard: "Is that the only spell you know?"
Sorcerer: "Um... yeah."
Wizard: "Oh... so how is that greater diversity and ability to choose your spells on the fly working out for you?"
Sorcerer: "P*## off."
Oracle: "I don't know why he's so upset -- is he hurt? I can cast cure critical wounds if he is. No? Hm... well is it ability drain? I've got restoration too. There are a lot of little monsters in the area I think I'll summon monster 4. It's a good thing I can choose what spell to cast out of these three spells I know."
Sorcerer: Stares daggers at the oracle

In my games there's also the fact if a wizard casts a spell it goes off, if a cleric prays for aid (spell) there's always the possibility their god will say "no".

A button to turn off dueling

Please, Its one of the things I most dislike about WoW, duel spam.

This is a product thread. Please would the parties involved in this dispute take it to another thread, or better yet, just stop.
Product threads are for discussion of the product, and may be the first thing somebody sees when approaching the Paizo boards for the first time.
The tone of this thread is not a good representation of the company and the principles that guide it. This is their space.

I eagerly await my set of minis, and am also excited for the case we ordered.

Shocking news: Cartigan isn't happy with something.

Things change. All things.

Pathfinder itself will change. They won't stay good forever and one day they'll make a big mistake and people will leave in droves, particularly if something new and good has just arrived.
I will look at D&D5 and see if it's any good, and if it is and if Pathfinder is getting tired, then I'll probably move back to D&D. Most people will despite their professed loyalties. They'll play what their friends play.

I was with you right up until that last part.

That really sounds like what a fair amount of the rabid pro 4E people were saying to people like me who were still playing 3.5 (pre-Pathfinder). I find it a little offensive that the implication there is close to "you'll play D&D and like it because it's the 800lb gorilla and everyone else is going to be playing it so what choice do you have?"

I have plenty of choices, including walking away from RPG's altogether, which is what I almost did if not for Pathfinder.

If Pathfinder 2.0 is bad, I'll keep playing Pathfinder 1.0. I'll probably keep buying map packs and cards and such.

But WOTC gets none of my money unless what they come up with is simply AMAZING. While I'm a huge fan of Monte Cook's I'm not a huge fan of Mike Mearls or 4E. There are parts of 4E that I like but there's more that I dont and if 5E (or whatever they'll be calling it) is still using the 4E chassis then I can tell you right now that I'll take a pass.

WOTC did a great job of alienating a fair amount of their fans. While I dont hate them or have the rabid anger toward them that a few people do, I'm not eager to give them my money anymore. It's gonna take a lot for me to come back into the fold and honestly I dont think they'll be able to get me to come back.

I trust the leadership at Paizo and they havent let me down in a big way so far. On the contrary WOTC has disappointed me quite a bit, on a few occasions. So there's that.

Zombieneighbours wrote:

It offers an option.

It is up to individuals if they use it or not.

Obviously. It's also written with words. It's an archetype. It's in the cleric section! Now that all the obvious things have been pointed out...

It's a badly designed option. It's badly designed because it requires heavy negotiation with the GM to work in the first place, and involves a power hit with no compensation whatsoever, when the rules to do exactly the same thing are already in the core book.

Not only is it wasted pagespace to tell people they're allowed to do a thing they could already do, but it also implies that god domain pools are somehow a balancing factor (they're not), and that being able to mix and match domains is somehow a more-powerful option that needs to be offset by some sort of cost (it's not). It reinforces the same old tired horsecrap that wanting to play a cleric that isn't part of the already-made churches for the setting is something that needs to be punished, to prevent (imaginary) powergamers and to protect the purity of the setting or its canon.

On top of all of this, it obstructs roleplay in order to place a completely ineffective obstacle in the path of supposed powergamers. If someone is concerned only with the most effective character they can make, they'll simply choose the god that offers the most effective domains. (You stymie that player by making all of the domains more or less about as good as each other.) Instead, the only players affected by this are the ones with offbeat concepts, like the Death domain cleric of Iomedae or whatever. That player gets a less-effective character despite trying to make a more-interesting character, just because they aren't playing the way the designers wanted him to play.

That kind of crap has to stop.

All character creation requires negotiation with the storyteller.

Campaign power levels, base assumptions and setting all influence what is and is not an appropreate character in a campaign. A campign designed for fred and Tom, murder hobbos inc, has different character creation requirements to a campaign designed for the wizards guild of awesome. So making Magnus the red, god wizard of awesome, in fred and Tom, murder hobbos inc game is going to such for everyone. How exactly is 'I was thinking about maybe playing a Iomedae cleric from an order of undead slayers, using the sepatist archetype and the pharasma version of death domain', a massive increase to the discussion you should be having with your DM and fellow players before making the character?

Secondly, there is compensation for the power hit. It allows you to achieve something that a campaign setting does not normally allow. It opens up a wide variety of builds to you.

Your entire argument seems to be predicated on the concept that taking a power hit is a bad thing.

It isn't. Encounter difficulty should be tailored to the player characters. Super optimised parties should find their adventure just as difficult as the murder hobbos find their adventure.

Keep in mind that neither Paizo nor Wizards of the Coast are likely to post in this thread any secret future plans, so everything posted in here is going to be pure speculation, based on pure speculation.

So when you feel like disagreeing with someone (and you probably will, I can tell it has the potential to be that kind of thread), keep in mind that it's just their opinion. They're no more privy to the truth than you are.

And when you post your awesome idea that Paizo absolutely must do or else we're going to go out of business, please have faith in Lisa, Erik and the rest of us that we got to this point because we're not stupid.

2e psionics were a major headache, especially the whole different methods of attack and defense and all that. I'd rather not see them replicated.

Oddly enough, as someone who likes psionics, I'd prefer if Paizo stayed out of it. Because Dreamscarred Press has already done a bang-up job presenting Pathfinder ruleset compatible psionics in Psionics Unleashed, and comments from several of the designers has indicated to me that the Psionics system the official Pathfinder design team would put together would not have the things I'd want from Psionics.

Because clearly someone else's opinion is worth more than my opinion because you agree with them and are a fanboy of the company.

Oh, Carty. I've already refuted your alleged points many times over. As have others. Sure, there's an actual argument underlying what you're saying, but you don't have any data to support it other than your over-inflated sense of self-importance. It's sad really. Reminds me of the old chestnut about being silent and letting everyone believe you are a fool instead of speaking to remove all doubt.

And yet, you keep speaking. Each time with nothing to offer except your unfounded, self-serving beliefs about the operation of the hobby market. A topic about which you have no background, authority, or credibility. Worse, you somehow believe that the volume and constant repetition of your Very Important Opinion renders you a greater expert than the company that has been most successful at marketing PPMs because of some minor distinction in the type of product. I imagine you also believe you are better than Apple at selling tablet computers with blue plastic cases because Apple only has experience selling tablet computers with white or black plastic cases.

You've lost, the home auidence knows you've lost, why not just admit defeat and quit backing yourself into illogical and indefensible corners based on your "understanding" of what price point constitutes an impulse buy for any particular set of consumers. You don't know anything of substance about this topic and, while neither do many of the others posting on this thread, we at least have the humility and self-awareness to acknowledge the limitations of our expertise.

Frankly, given your view on the Pathfinder rpg's lack of merit, and it's astounding success, I'm somewhat surprised that you haven't grown more cautious in spouting off. Maybe constantly being wrong has made you numb to the sensation. Maybe the wonder of the myopic universe you inhabit allows you to ignore reality. Or, maybe you just live to annoy other people, and these forums allow you an outlet for that. I guess everyone needs a hobby.

I suggest Pathfinder. It's a fun game.

I am confused why my questioning of Lisa, or my questioning of their transparency in their marketing plan, makes me bad, or a conspiracy theorist. I work at a huge, national company, and I see how our marketing goes. That's what marketing IS.

Your company might lie to their customers. We don't.

^_^ You have to love Sara Marie's sense of humor.

Yup, its a job requirement for customer service.

I think things are ok the way they are. I feel lucky to get the free pdf and the discount.

Personally, I like the rules, but adding crafting rules for super-science kinda defeats the purpose for me. It'd be like adding crafting rules for artifacts.

I don't think the PCs have to be able to do everything ... there's allowed to be some mystery out there. And I see no possible way that anyone in a medieval setting should be able to craft tech. Maybe chemical batteries, but those would be crude and prone to failure.

It's like of like saying that just because there's gunpowder, folks can create modern rifles - there's a lot more going on than stuffing some powder into a little metal can.

So - please - don't cheapen the super-science by making it something that can suddenly be out there. After all, there has to be a reason that the only source of the super-weapons is the Numerian mountain ...

I have no regrets pre-ordering even if Paizo offers some for sale. Because the reality is, there wouldn't be a book if significant number of us hadn't pre-ordered. Besides, even if 1,000 books are printed, that's still a very small run. By next year this thing will be a collector's item. In 10 years this thing will rare indeed.

If anyone is still considering going to see Transformers 3, I offer this "faq/review" (spoilers, NSFW language).

Congratulations Bay, you remain securely at the top spot of my Nerd Hate list {mixes up a cocktail of lemony-lime Spite with Freehold's Hateraid MaxXx}

I do not appreciate your usage of the word inferior here.

My apologies for stating an opinion and not using masked curse words or insulting the staff of a gaming company while doing so.

I'll strive for irony next time, rather than a lack of appreciation.