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Ross Byers wrote:
Not 'abandoned' so much as conquored. (plus, a sword shaped ship named Damocles, that's too good to pass up. I wonder if Agent Brand is in the shared zone?
Charon's Little Helper wrote:
"A Lie?""An... error."
Me: From a Marvel Superheroes campaign.
Bad guy is ranting about the disaster that ruined his life and cursed him with his powers.
"So you didn't intend to be the irradiated skeleton guy?"
"Ok, tell you what, I'll fix it."
At this point the GM and bad guy go 'what?'
"I've the gateway power. I can go back in time, and warn you not to turn on the machine. Write me out a co-ownership of your tech business, I'll leave my secretary here, and go fix it."
"Look, you don't want to be a bad guy, I don't want you to irradiate the city, I live here. Win Win."
Thus was the Dr. Doom wannabe turned into an ally.
So they fight and kill him, bring his body through the portal and raise him gaining a powerful ally. *sigh*
Not sure about 5 books in. Thunderbolts made it through their first issue w/o the reveal, 2nd if you count their hulk appearance (and that he slipped up and called Meteorite Moonstone.)
Freehold DM wrote:
First Justice League episode I saw was the part 2 of the Aquaman story. When he goes "I believe this is mine," and walks away leaving Ocean Master to die, I went "Superfriends, we are not."
*shrug* I've no PCs impacted by the ruling, but it makes sense.
As to the Tiefling/Aasimar thing...
The furor over the grandfathering window always amused me. I've two of each in limbo, plus my three active planetouched (assimar archeologist, tiefling archeologist and tiefling inquisitor). The four 'spares' are sitting there, not for power, but for when I've an idea for another character that being planetouched fits. So far, nothing has 'sang to me' that it needs a planetouched background. Closest I've had is a slayer or inquisitor grimspawn of Pharasma who also has the soul eating trait from the DArchive.
"I'm just the guy who arranges the meeting between the Lady and the pentient." *casts deathknell on the guy he just dropped*
"What the hell was that for?"
Though the idea of a pit spawn bard, who takes spell focus enchantment and specializes in those kind of spells, is funny. "I can't help it I'm good at making friends and seducing people... succubus blood."
Edit: I am sad that it closes the rogue/arcane strike trick. (minor magic/major magic, not racial SLAs) since they could use the damage bump and a pure rogue has little use for swift actions.
John John wrote:
Funny, the people who agree with him include the Paizo staff.
Inner Sea Gods wrote:
For higher level characters, remember that these armors can be upgraded like any other magic item by adding “plus equivalent” or “gp value” abilities, then paying the difference between the original item’s price and the price of the item when upgraded with the additional special abilities. Likewise, variants of these armors may exist using different types of armor, such as Deadeye leather, which is made from leather armor instead of studded leather. The full rules for customizing magic armor and shields can be found in Chapter 15 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook.
And believe me, I wish such upgrading was possible in PFS. I've a GM credit baby with a Sidhidron Medalion that I'd love to upgrade.
Common sense, isn't. :-)
You do get me wondering about the MCU though. Rumors point to Steve dying in Civil War, and Bucky/Winter Soldier picking up the shield.
Don Cheadle is 50 himself, RDjr is 50 this year. Sebastian Stan is 32, Anthony Mackie is 34. So Rhodey = Taking up the armor runs into the same aging concerns as Tony, short of recasting.
So, how will the movies affect the comics if we get 6 movies of Bucky (or Sam) as Cap?* Could the MCU do what the comics have never been able to do for long, put someone else in the title and make it stick? If we don't get Rhodey taking up the Iron Man-tle, do we get a new character in the movieverse? And does he jump to the comics like Phil Colson did?
Unless we see the Mind Gem used to bring 'Bucky Back' like the cosmic cube did in the comics, I'd like to see 'Captain America 4' be Sam and Natasha saving Bucky and bringing him back. Essentially it would be the reverse of the comic timeline, with Sam being Falcap, and then honoring Steve's request and bringing Bucky to be Cap.
Oh I firmly agree. Dick was successful as Nightwing, and he could be Batman, but he was successful as Nightwing. I want Sam-as-Falcon to be as successful, Rhodey-as-War Machine, John-as-Steel etc. Sam-as-Cap may be successful, but it feels like he's still in Steve's shadow.
(I've said in the past that Steel should be DC's Iron Man, successful businessman and power armor user. Superman can be his inspiration, like how people are inspired irl by the comics as kids, or many scientists cite Star Trek as what 'got them into' science. But a John Henry enterprises that builds robotics and light exoskeletions to help people, and he builds the Steel armor to be a hero would rock.)
Of course, with Secret Wars, we might have a universe where Tony, Thor, and Steve are out of the picture, and a new Iron Man, Thora, and Falcap are the 'default'.
I doubt they'd go that way either, and it would need some rebooting.
(getting off topic, so I'll spoiler it)
My Avengers, for example, would need Tony and Thor out of the way, and would keep Steve old doing the Bruce Wayne to Sam's Terry McGuenniss (I've seen some people call the current book "Capman Beyond.") It also would have a rebooted Hank and Janet, since current Janet is way different than her EMH counterpart. Earth's Mightiest Heroes Hank also is different, since he's more of a 'treat and cure the bad guy' character than current Hank. I'd actually kill/remove Tony for at least 5 years, so Rhodey could really be his own Iron Man/War Machine.
I'd also remove/merge 616 Hank and Jan, and then destory/seal off the EMH universe, so EMH Hank and Jan aren't always trying to 'get home' and 'settle in.' In fact, it could be a story point if EMH Hank and Jan are from 20-30 years ago, they could take the 'man out of time' aspect that Cap always had for storytelling aspects.
Rhodey (and his own book) would be an interesting challenge. I mean he should be able to do basic repairs of his armor, but he's no Tony Stark. He'd have a supporting cast in his own book, I'd not want Tony to be his armorer, rather have a mechanic, and distance himself from Stark Industries (being run by Pepper, who would be a recurring character) for liability reasons. Maybe Parker Industries could tie in? One reason I like Rhodey is that he can't just 'invent a gadget to save the day' He uses his skills as a soldier and a professional and his armor when written correctly.
Hmm, another team book just came to mind.
The Professionals. Pepper Potts, Jen Walters, Dwayne Tayor (Bring him back from the dead) a rebooted Warren Worthington and Peter Parker in a book of corporate espionage and challenges. Essentially rotate through the roster and tell stories of business in the super hero world.
In fact, I'd love to see a 'Spider-men' book, with Married Peter Parker and Parker Industries. Have Peter taking Miles Morales under his wing. It would have the dual hooks of Peter mentoring someone with different powers than himself, and trying to balance his 'great power' as Spider-man, as well as the 'great responsibility' of what Parker Industries can do (and being a family man).
Hmm, if you use the terregen bomb from the current storyline, and have Parker industries make it worse somehow, it means that Hank and Peter can be trying to make a 'cure' for Terragenesis, which would put them in direct conflict with Medusa and Blackbolt.
Medusa: "They're inhumans, it's who they are!"
Hmm lots of comments
My two c-bills.
Depends on how it merges. Spiderverse is interesting to me, since it appears they really went all out on all the Spider man realities, from the newspaper comic, to the 60's cartoon, to the current cartoon (and then the cartoon was supposed to have an episode tying in, but I dropped cable, so I don't know.)
What I'd like to see spin out of itr.
An Avengers (With She-Thor, Falcap and Rhodey as the 'big three' Avengers EMH Wasp and Hank)
Then a number of alternate books.
Spiderman and wife.
Spider Gwen (would be interesting to see how you could go in a different direction)
X-factor forever (Seriously, if you can find this mini-series, read it.)
etc. Self encapsulated books that could cross over.
But then again, the marvel comics I read are X-factor (sob) and Spiderman 2099.
(Aside, if PAD could handle it, I'd love to see an 'Avengers-Factor' Where he does for C-list Avengers what he's done for c-list mutants.)
Re: DC. Dick becoming Batman was well done, and it was one of the saddest bits of the reboot how they destroyed him. I liked the vibe towards the end that Damian was Dick's Robin, but Tim was Bruce's Robin.
And I loved Steph-Batgirl.
(Aside the second, I'd loved to have seen a book with Steph, Wendy, Rose and other 'children of villians' as an Outsiders kind of team. We could include Conner in that list as well)
I really was exposed to DC through the DCAU, so John is 'my' Green Lantern too. :-)
Season 0, Mists of Mwangi
Season 1, The Devil We Know series.
Season 2 Strangely enough, I've not played many of them. The Bloodcove disguise is one I did play, and enjoyed it.
Season 3 Quest for Perfection*
Season 4 Nightmarch, The Disappeared** Fortress of the Nail***
Season 5 The Stolen Heir (for making Andoran players squirm) The Confirmation (My Janeira has a Kathy Bates/Misery crush on Kreighton Shane), Library of the Lion.
Season 6 So far Valley of the Veiled FLame.
And now the footnotes.
Pt 2 led to way to many innuendo jokes about the party's junk. I played the Magnificent Seven theme during the briefing for pt 3. (Then felt old that no one caught it.) And the A-Team theme during the 'defending the village' bit.
I do modify the mission briefing a bit. "Good morning Pathfinders. This is Zarta Draleen, the Paracountess. The Cheliaxian embassy now denies she ever existed. Your mission, should you choose to accept it...
And end it with, "if discovered, the Ten will disavow all knowledge of your team." Complete with the music playing in the background.
I then cue up the plot when the party tackles the cypher. Just the first 50 or so seconds though.
When I played it, I was playing my Tiefling inquisitor/Lawyer. So I got to present the evidence. We still believed that prestidigitation did the soft music bit from 3.5, so I walked to present the evidence to This. Again, a clear gap in age between who got it and who didn't.
It's on Hulu+, I've been rewatching.
Nice to know I remembered correctly they flushed two redshirts out of the airlock in one episode.
From The Green Market
NPC guard "You can't bring that lion in here!"
Me: (playing my sczarni aasimar bard) "It needs to come in, it's her service lion, he comforts her when she has panic attacks." (Rolls 41 bluff)
Me: "So they're extorting you for money? I know a few relatives in the family who I could likely get to protect you, for a lesser fee."
PC: "Did you just offer to have her pay your family protection rather than them?"
Me: "It's just business."
Green Lantern Tangent.
Too many villians. If they were going to do it as a trillogy, I'd rather have seen them go.
1st movie. Hal gets the ring and the lantern, Ring does the "Hal Joran of Earth.." bit Hal enjoys becoming a hero. Keep Hector Hammond being mutatned, they bring the big fight, Hal wins. End of film (or post credits scene) Sinestro shows up to find out what happened and ends with them leaving for Oa.
2nd movie. Basically Emerald Dawn. First movie is Hal Jordan, second one is green lantern corps, buddy cop flick as Sinestro teaches Hal how to be a GL, Sinestro style. Ends with Sinestro stripped of his ring and one a barren world, exiled. A yellow streak comes from the sky, "Thall Sinestro of Krougar, you have the ability to inspire great fear. Welcome to-" Sinestro catches the ring and slides it on. "The Sinestro Corps." He finishes.
3rd movie big knock down drag out between the GL corps and Sinestro corps. Movie ends with Hal winning and becoming part of the honour guard, restoring the corps. Last scene is a new ring streaking towards earth (and in my dream version) "John Stewart of Earth..."
Well to be honest my ideal green lantern movie would translate the DCAU John Stewart to the big screen. Might as well let Dave Batista take the role. ;-)
I've been calling PFS a three legged stool for a while.
I see it as
A) Getting players together, and new players a place they can standardize rules.
All three stools are important. No players, no PFS. No place to play and people to buy from, no PFS, no product and support from Paizo, no PFS.
Likewise, if someone is using, say, an alchemist with tanglebombs, I'm going to want to see the raw text, not d20 PFSD (Had this happen at Origins. It's not funny to have my own trick (entangling spam) thrown back at me.)
Is your Core Rulebook wizard going to be as powerful/flexible as one I can make since I'm a subscriber? Likely not. Is he still functional and enjoyable as mine? Yeah, he is. Maybe someways he's a better society character since he's not going to have a trait to know UMD, or to have it function off of intelligence, so he has to rely on someone else to heal since he doesn't have as many options to self heal.
My Archeologists have personalities and backstories that are growing still. (For example, after some amazing acrobatics and climb checks, Shankar now yells 'Parkour!" right before he makes a jump.
I've three (maybe 4 after tonight) blobs of outsider, one assimar, two tieflings in case I have to move to Florida.*
*[spoiler]Most of my characters records are a mess, including the archeologists, so I wanted a couple spare outsiders if I have re relocate outside of Columbus, where that would be an issue.[spoiler]
It's ok to be confused. I live in that a lot.
My point posting here was to address the subject, not the character. Basically Paizo does engage in viewpoint discrimination, and it's not a bad thing in and of itself. On reflection, I find it kind of sad that the character is being defined as 'the trans iconic' rather than 'the shaman iconic' I mean Seelah isn't 'the black iconic' she's 'the paladin iconic'* Valeros is 'the fighter iconic'.
Likewise, if the iconic swashbuckler was defined as 'the left handed one' I'd still want her to be 'the swashbuckler iconic' and not 'the left handed iconic'. Just like Kyra is still 'the cleric iconic' and not 'the gay iconic' to most. I see it as a paradox, the stated goal of the LBGTALPHABETSOUP group is 'tolerance' but then when one is included as 'just another character' like the shaman, the conversation (for good and bad) focuses on what makes her different.
Funny story. I was running a scenario where a new (to me) player was playing the Seelah iconic. The BBEG becomes obsessed on one of the PCs, I chose him. After some probing questions, he looks at her picture, looks up at me and says, "This is because i'm black, isn't it!" Laughter ensued.
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Amusingly I looked around the movie theater at the end of X-2 and you could tell the comic book readers from the people who didn't. The comic book readers were leaning forward hoping to see the Phoenix Force in full CGI glory, while the non readers were 'what's with all this fire stuff?'
it's my understanding that the *original* X-3 idea was to build on Magneto's gadget in X-1, that not only did it mutate humans, it increased mutant powers. So the original cast, along with Magneto's Brotherhood were getting more powerful in the second movie and that would foreshadow a powered up Jean/Phoenix in the third movie. Would have made a nice compromise between giving us a movie Phoenix force and avoiding all the comic baggage. Might also have given us Fameke Jansen vamping it up as Dark Phoenix and not Zombie Phoenix.
Cintra Bristol wrote:
Cintra, that's the point I'm trying to make. Paizo doesn't *need* to make Seelah dark skinned, Kyra bi/gay (per the comics) or any female iconics at all. They *choose* to. Which means they spend the tine and effort to take those steps. I'm not complaining about it.
Erik's post confirms what I've said, they choose not to check the 'diversity box' of making a left handed iconic to represent lefties, because they feel the effort isn't worth it.
understanding that, some people might not feel it is worth the effort to make a Transconic, or a female iconic. You can disagree with them, but understand they feel they have a valid viewpoint.
(Aside, actually the minis are a perfect example. the first iconic Valeros mini was 'flipped' from the art, resulting in the longsword in his left hand. new Valeros matches the art, and as a result the minis don't match. I noticed it, but didn't think it worth commenting on. i chuckled and moved on.)
(Second aside, Mikaze noted that all the pictures of Aroden show him left handed. I joked that it meant the left handed iconic was a god)
As said above, Viewpoint discrimination is fine for private companies/organizations.
My 'issue' with the Transconic is the fanfair. Really, my real reaction is 'ah, so that's the trans iconic. *shrug*' If it was an issue at my tables I'd edit it out.*
Part of my semi-sarcastic pointing out of there not being a left handed iconic (seriously, we're 10% of the population!) is that being 'diverse' always runs into limits. Paizo expends the effort (in art orders, writing etc.) to make 'diverse' iconics of colour gender and sexuality. Paizo also puts a limit on how many resources they wish to put into making their iconics and their products truly diverse. Thus no left handed iconic because the expense of layout and ordering art is too much for them to justify making 10% of the population feel included.**
Aside the second, the Yeth Hound's 'Sinister Bite' needs to be renamed. That attack is using an offensive word.
There is nothing stopping someone from putting "PATHFINDR SUX ROX BECAUSE OF THEIR QUEERTY ICONICS" on a Facebook post, or a blog post, or putting it in the paper (well except those sites policies as well). If someone wants to put the same thing on the boards, then they can deal with the consequences of their actions.
Also, remember tolerance works both ways though. If a person gets enraged that their choices are considered 'wrong' by someone, then take a deep breath before attacking them for being 'wrong'. Else you're guilty of the same thing you're accusing the other of.***
Just like I edit Zarta's BDSM fetishes if I'm running First Steps, The Disappeared, or anything else that involves Zarta's bedroom, if there are kids there. Hells, for all I know, the kids are growing up in a D/s household where they know full well what those things are, because they've seen mommy cleaning them. But it's not my place to bring in the PG 13 aspects of life to kids. Better to err on the side of caution.
Of course, Left handiness makes us inherently superior, so we don't need iconics. :P
I'm specifically thinking of the 'change the body vs. change the mind' aspects of the transconic discussion. I just commented on the depression treatment changing the person inside, since I can speak directly to that. When I read the hostility to it in 'no that's wrong, you should change the body' I find myself wondering if they'd support amputations of Body integrity identity disorder instead of medicinal/psychological treatment.
Just getting caught up.
I heard about the ruling from the local VL.
My thing is, since I'm unemployed (again) I'll be able to make gaming tomorrow. I was planning to play a couple high tier scenarios, but now will likely be playing Accursed halls and shades of ice, with brand new level 1's to get a couple 'planetouched credits' under my belt for future concepts that might come up. As opposed to going for that half orc slayer. She can wait until after the 14th.
As to the new races, no concepts come to mind for me yet. Well except for the musket master kitsune. Think Rocket Raccoon as a fox.
Freehold DM wrote:
Loved transformers prime. Loved arcee, the approach to violence and death, and the kids grew on me over time.
They grew on me too, though I was glad for a kidless conclusion movie.
Of course I loved Arcee, I'm biased though, her voice actress is a) hot and b) a local girl.
One other thing I forgot about running this...
I have an 'Appalachian twang' that normally lays dormant, but I brought it out in force for this. Every NPC they met looked them up and down, and said, 'y'aren't from 'round here, are ya?"
So much that the party started saying "No, we're not from around here." before I could say it.
If you really play them up as nice but strange backwoods folk, it works best.
An excuse to watch the Mummy and drool over Patricia Vasquez and Rachel Weiz again? How can I resist?
It seems to me they've set up the second season for themes of identity.
*Colson's dealing with the influence of the drug/Supreme intelligence
*Fitz recovering from brain damage. How much of him is still him if he's normal intelligence?
*Skye dealing with her inhuman/kree/badoon heritage?
*Hopefully Ward trying to find who Ward is without a "Garret and" in front of his name.
Heck, depending on Fitz's state, there are some potential parallels between him and Ward if they've both lost key parts of themselves.
Edit: and Fury confirming that T.A.H.I.T.I. did save an Avenger was a moment of heartwarming by itself.
Edit 2: what if the doodle is a circuit diagram for a certain maleveloent A.I.?
Are human ethnicities and languages always available - or do you always need to bring the ISGW if your character uses them?
Have you read The Redemption Engine?
I was pleasantly surprised to find the two members of the Iridian Fold had a belief that women couldn't have that close of a bond. It made them more real to me, that their belief had a very visible flaw. Then again I like a Saranrae persecuting Taldor and a slightly misogynistic Erastil too as it makes things more "real" to me.