Interesting, I'll have to look it up. Thanks GreenDragon.
I've been rewatching JLU. I'd forgotten that it strongly implied/suggested that Dianna is Hades daughter. Whether 'your mother and I sculpted you from clay' is accurate or a metaphor (or a cover story) is left vauge.
I read this and all I could think of is "It looks like a ball of poo with knives sticking out of it."
"It's a porcupine!"
Not Sean (I'm much more handsome, and have hair) but I recommend Nightmarch of Kalkamedes (nice mix of skills and combat) First Steps pt 1 (Ditto) and The Devil We Know pt 1 (swarms, spells, and traps).
A season 4, a 'training wheels' season 3 and a season 1
I agree with the concerns of the Warpriest. "Anything it can do the Inquisitor can beat the heck out of it and steal its lunch."
So, Warpriest fans, take the class attributes and suggest how to make it a d10/good BAB/not an alignment version of the Paladin class? Propose how you think it can work. I'll take a look tonight, since that is a niche that's missing (as far as I can tell, 3pp don't count (unfortunately)).
I think the issue is, that right now the Swashbuckler can't be a pirate, without a) being a rapier pirate or b), dumping a lot of feats and reskinning a scimitar into a cutlass or sabre.
I liked the early Elminster better. Not quite sane from the burden of responsibility he bears and the sheer number of friends he's seen die, he keeps sending people out to die or worse because there is no other option. Second edition had many things slanted toward happy-go-lucky in the Realms, but honestly, look just a little deeper, and there was darkness everywhere, even then. The various villain groups were powerful indeed, the evil gods were terrible things. Monster-infested wilderness was all over the place. Elves and dwarves were disappearing. All in all, Elminster was a reflection of this, and much that was written about him did not use him as a Mary Sue. He lived in Shadowdale, because he wanted to protect the freedom of the Dalelands, and so made himself a target. Even so, he was only moderately successful at even this.
There was a scene in Knights of Myth Drannor where El and Khelben argue about how best to bring about Mystra's will. When you add in some of the ideas of the Seven Sisters (Simbul wanting to terraform Thay, for example) you got a much more complex (and insane) image of what being a Chosen meant.
As for the whole scimitar/rapier thing, the class boxes itself in. You Must use a one handed piercing weapon (thats a short list), rapier is hands down your best option, scimitar is better if you have dervish dance. Crits get you back your primary resource, again this means that anything but a high crit weapon with keen/improved crit is a huge step back. Without changing those 2 facts, you arent going to get away from those two weapons, and scimitar will always be the best option by a mile if you can use dervish dance.
Mechanically I don't argue those points. In fact when I meant it boxes the class in 'it' was the classes limited list. If the weapon list is expanded it allows our Aldori duelists, our Rolendo style practicitioners, our 'wandering duelist' with the katana, etc etc.
As it stands, the swashbuckler can't swash his buckle with a sabre or cutlass, for example.
You under estimate how much panache a swashbuckler will have. Most are going to use a high crit weapon (the best choice for them is the scimitar with dervish dance, other will probably use a rapier). With keen or improved crit, 1/4th of their attacks will be crits.
Will be threats you mean, the actual crit rate will be lower.
That people are automatically going to rapier/scimitar and assuming keen/improved critical is a flaw to me. It boxes the class too much. Kind of like now how a scimitar is standard issue for magi.
If it can't do Swordlord swashbuckler, buckler-and-shortsword swashbuckler, rapier-and-dagger swashbuckler, and cutlass swashbuckler, it needs more time in the oven.
Add falcata and buckler...
"How did Qaderia get so rich?"
"Selling scimitars to all our Taldan magi and swashbucklers, sir."
(waits for it to be moved)
And that's not including you're either a) spending gold on a rapier you're trading out eventually, or b) using a sword that won't regenerate your panache.
I think an archtype would be the answer.
But given how the red martians were handled in John Carter (safely ethnically non-denominational rather than red-like-a-fire-engine-is-red red skinned) I'm betting that drow on the big screen is just a non-starter, because Hollywood wants to leapfrog any potential misunderstanding, rather than because those misunderstandings would even happen.
As a small kid reading John Carter, yeah my mind painted the martians in technocolour. (fire engine red, lemon yellow, obsidian black) As I got older I 'softened' them to match more human colouration (not consciously, I didn't wake up and go, 'y'know, the red Martians really shouldn't be that red...') Then it never clicked to 8 year old me that the White Martians should be 'white-like-me' not 'white-like-paper' if John Carter could pass as one of them...
I do remember finding early on that the white Martians being the degenerated proto-ancestors and the black Martians being highly advanced pirates/slavers kind of interesting. Likely the cause of my experimenting with alternate civilizational norms in my musings.
Sure, Matt. Or maybe as a guy who does look for left-handedness in everything, you're just unwilling to hear anything said against Drizzt because his ambidextrous two-weapon fighting suits your political agenda . . . :P
LOL, well played. (To point, I don't bother with my sinister agenda until I see people demanding something that caters to their own agenda)*
*shrug* Basically I've never seen 'isms' where others have. I didn't find ERB racist (Tarzan, for example treats his tribe as peers, most of the blatent racism I read was from the bad guys) don't find the Drow = black people bit etc.
Now I understand some of TSR/WotC's missteps didn't help. (In addition to destroying the FR Drow pantheon (which I thought was a stupid idea), the "brown skin elves good, but black skinned elves are irredeemably evil" set a lot of people off.) I just don't see the need for a disclaimer. espcially as motion capture and overlay become cheaper.
I noticed today, that my kindle browser has the menus off the left hand side, it makes it difficult to use the browser since my thumb keeps pulling up the menu rather than moving the page. Annoying but I adapt. No need for a "LEfties might find our product offensive to use" disclaimer.
Sooooo... add a warning before the film starts that "The fact that a black-skinned people is portrayed as sadistic, incestuous, murderous, demon-worshipping, perverted and generally foul people is not, in fact, due to the writer of the book this movie was made from. It is, instead, due to Gary Gygax, who designed the original game system for the setting the book was written in. The movie company does not intend for this to come across as racist in any way. Thank you."?
Y'know, I never saw the idea of a group of cursed underground dwelling fantasy elves being in anyway related to real life surface dwelling humans.
Then again, I'm not looking for race in everything.
Well for high level season 5 (or the Moonscar) I can see using the +4 option because you want cold iron...
That said, I miss 'golfbag of weapons'.
Aside to the OP, it's adamantine, not Adamantium. (OR Promethium for that matter).
"In my day, we didn't have fancy adamantium alloys. We has vibranium/steel alloys. And LIKED IT!" - Captain America. :-)
I've ran enough immortals to give it a lot of thought. You'd see everyone you know die around you, friends, family, their kids... After a hundred years pretty much everyone who knew you would be gone, and you'd be a bit more isolated/used to it.
I played an immortal character 1K+ years old once. Realized as I developed his personality, that he looked on spending the rest of her life with a normal woman as a 'short term engagement' He'd love, truly passionately, deeply, but when she was gone he'd morn and move on. For her it would be the rest of her life. For him? A weekend.
Elans are cool with the 3.x fluff. Played in a party with a young copper dragon PC. She was always going on about how she was so superior to the humans in the party. Finally I said, "You are what you are, by an accident of birth. By two creatures rutting and dropping you in a nest. I have been rebuilt from humbler origins into what I am now. Because of who I am. You are a lucky coincidence. I am truly a self made man."
(And that last line is why David Xanatos is awesome.)
Dammit, misread. That should be "I'd roll with her not granting spells in that case.
Funny thing is, I read, "I'd roll with that." as "The cleric of a community based deity would be turning the community against itself, that should answer your question."
That said, how far a cleric can go is a recurrent question in Pathfinder. The burner sect, for example, do they still get spells? The cleric in Death's Heretic was working directly against his deity's will, but still got spells.
Rob McCreary wrote:
But will the book have a monster/prestige class that can absorb cosmic rays and shoot plasma from his chest?
I haven't gotten to the fungal creature template yet in my Bestiary 4 read. Does it reproduce by spores, and how much control does the fungal creature have over spore production? I could see letting a fungal creature formed from a dead compatriot live, but bringing them back to civilization could be extraordinarily dangerous, as you could quickly create a fungal epidemic.
On reading it, I wonder if the fungal creature even really knows that reproduction via spores is wrong (because it kills the host). While fungal creatures with decent intelligence scores could be taught "No, making more fungal creatures by infecting beings with spores is bad," we don't know how much control over it they have. Is it like sex (takes conscious effort) or like breathing or sweating (mostly involuntary)?
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
And this is why I respect you and the parties involved... professionalism.
(So can we have more Vanguard stuff, please?)
Michael Brock wrote:
And having players in rural areas is the exact reason that online play was opened. It is a two way street and people have to be willing to put in a little effort. People in rural areas who refuse to play online, and refuse to travel to a convention or refuse to GM, are probably never going to have a shot at a race boon for an exotic race.
True, if you know it exists. I'll be honest, I'd never heard of an online con until recently, and I hang on these boards a lot. (like that isn't obvious).
And I am all for people GMing. maybe even in conjunction with race boons. :)
I think part of the confusion is that people don't *just* play the races for a mechanical advantage.
For example, Dex I played as a tiefling just for the 'lawyer from hell' aspect. If I played a kayal, I was looking at Lore Warden/Shadowdancer for the creepy aspect of a high level shadow based character with his sister as his companion shadow.
Likewise, I had the idea of a gruff Russian/Ulfen Fanglord, since people always forget the Siberian tigers, and I had an image. I could play a barbarian and do the same thing, but the blood of the moon book got me thinking.
When someone in a more rural area (like, say West Virginia) or in a distant area (like Singapore, above) has an idea that they think would 'click' for X-race, and are told their being cheesy, or travel to a big con, or 'sucks to be you' it can be seen as hostile to that person in particular. When a request for a change is met by "We don't want more of a freak show!" by people who are already playing/have access to 'freaks' that can across as hypocritical.
Especially when the person really does want to play X-race because of Y-concept.
Thank you again everyone for keeping the conversation civil.
I've seen a couple Tengu, but the power builds of choice usually go to Aasimar.
I'm still hoping to play a kayal shadow dancer someday.
For Jiggy, 41, 42 soon.
Edit: Just saw this
Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:
Lastly, before anyone asks, the way the rules would be written are pretty simple: "Tiefling, Tengu, and Aasimar characters are only legal if (1) there is a Boon specifically allowing them or (2) the first Chronicle assigned to the character is dated between [start] and [end]."
This might also have the benefit of getting people to GM, just to get someone in under the wire.
Barring typos, the RAW can't be wrong. It can be misunderstood, or read differently but it can't be wrong.
My argument is simple.
I do not expect Paizo to use WotC's faq, and am unaware of anyone who suggested otehrwise in this thread.
I've used their FAQ to show that the exact ame text has been read two different ways by two different design teams. I accept Paizo's ruling, and don't have an issue with it.
I do disagree that 'no response is required'. That the question comes up every few months, to me, is the definition of a Frequently Asked Question.
Yes, in a perfect world, the issue would be solved by taking the rule from the ARG and putting it into the Bestiary. I accept that the logistics of doing that may be too difficult, but that is what the FAQ is for.
Please reconsider and add it to the FAQ.
Eric Saxon wrote:
Common, let's be honest here. If you can do it in public, someone will. And as soon as they do, there will be consequences. That's why this will never be allowed.
To derail the thread even further, that's where peer pressure and encouraging adult behaviour come into play. If you're being a Richard, you stop when called out on it.
To use a non-evil version. Whne I play Mayim, she's a flirt, when I play Ksenia she's a witch (she's working on changing through, really!) when I play Dexios, he's preachy. When I play Kodiak, he's old fashioned, etc. I have to be really careful with Mayim (and to a lesser extent, Ksenia) because Mayim being a follower of Calistra, complete with a 100GP holy symbol tramp stamp, is sex on steroids. That can really creep people out coming from an ogre like me at the table. With hte right people it's great. We all laugh. With the wrong people, I put her in a (mental) chastity belt.
Likewise when the 10 yo plays at the table, we all try to curb our language. I described the paracountess' room in The Disappeared as "This room is full of things we won't talk about at this table, and a bed." We try not to swear, etc.
Ravenstone is a small store, so anyone who comes in sees us. Whne I'm GMing I often try to get people to come over, and answer questions. (hey, I'm all for keeping my FLGS afloat and growing the hobby.)
Basically, there's a difference between, "Cackling wildly, I pull out my sippy straw" and "I cast blood transcription, what can I get." When a player crosses that line, you call him out, plain and simple. Don't make Paizo police your table, Mayim may not be welcome at a table of 10 year olds, she is welcome at a table of adults.