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I'm working on Lady Gabrielle's estate... Does anyone have any tips on how to build one step-by-step? The text seems pretty daunting.

-Matt


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It's okay. Having an evil character in the group means I have someone to pin things on.

-Matt


CRFaye wrote:


Lady Gabrielle D’Apcher (I think this might be an older profile for her, but it works to give us an idea of her character.)

It's up to date. That's the alias I'll be using for the campaign.

-Matt


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Mattastrophic in 2013 wrote:

I am looking forward to Pathfinder Second Edition.

-Matt

I am still looking forward to Pathfinder Second Edition.

-Matt


I like exploding threads. Gives me something to really anticipate while at work.

-Matt


Hey, I said I got all inspired and stuff! I'll probably tighten it up a bit once I've slept on it.

-Matt


OK, so it got pretty long and involved, but I was struck with some inspiration for a sweet background plot for Lady Gabrielle, involving her ambitious mother, her family estate, and the evil Andoran Lumber Consortium. Lady Gabrielle's estate lies on the front lines against the expansion of a ruthless group of merchants into Taldor, and by fighting them in Oppara, she is both saving her family and protecting the Empire.

Lady Gabrielle's profile

There are some cool plot seeds there for you to use, Leviathan!

-Matt


Lady Kyra: It's worth noting that the one time Lion Blades showed up in Pathfinder Society as NPCs, none of them had levels in the Lion Blade prestige class.

As for the cohort, I like the Magus. I am actually really liking the thought of a campaign with zero full casters!

-Matt


If it influences your decision, I am intending to hand the reins over to the GM the NPC representing Gabrielle's mother, and she's very much like the Queen of Thorns. Lady Gabrielle might be a clever girl, but her mother runs circles around her.

-Matt


Take a look at the Unchained talent again. +1/Rogue level on jumping checks.

-Matt


Yeah, it's the +10 (+1/class level) to jumping checks, which effectively becomes +20 when combined with the Ninja10 ki ability, that has me pretty stoked (Ninja10 halves all jump DCs). We'd have a Parkour Queen on our hands.

Similarly, Coax Information would yield a pretty hefty bonus to virtual-Intimidate rolls, because her Bluff and Diplomacy modifiers are significantly higher than her Intimidate modifier. It would also mean that if she pleasantly talks to someone for long enough, they tend to give her what she wants.

How often do you guys think Follow Clues (essentially, tracking with the Survival skill) will come up?

She's already got Fast Stealth, and Combat Trick is one she'll call up with Forgotten Trick when needed.

I'm also debating between the Sense Motive and the Diplomacy skill unlocks. Thoughts?

-Matt


Hmm... one last Unchained talent to take, debating between:

-Coax Information: I don't know if this will be necessary, because it's one of those DM-dependent social talents.
-Expert Leaper: Move really fast in an urban environment. Combined with Ninja10's halving of jump DCs, that's a lot of jumping.
-Trap Spotter: Passively find traps and other hazards.

Here's a reference. Any advice?

-Matt


As the player of the skill/social skill-based character, I'll say that she is largely concerned with getting her older brother out of the way and acquiring her family title for herself. She's doing the best she can at weaving her way through court politics while avoiding marriage. Every once in awhile, a masked hero shows up to shake up the game, though, by removing one of its more corrupt players though exposure and humiliation.

-Matt


Hey... what do you think of the 7500gp circlet of persuasion +5, the one that Lord Rook priced out above?

Hmm... I'm wondering if it should be 12,500gp (5x2500 for +5 to five skills, compared to 5x900 for +3 to five skills)?

-Matt


That's the idea, he'd build the cohort, and if he gets busy, I can take over as needed.

-Matt


Speaking of cohort ideas, I have a friend who's interested in this game, but he doesn't have tons of time to run a full suite of two characters. What do you think of handing part-time cohort duties to another player, with the expectation that if he's out for a week or so, I take over as the copilot?

The concept we're kicking around, by the way, is of a religious leader who also has enough wits and social skills to cut it in a game of noble intrigue. Think Cardinal Richelieu from The Three Musketeers. So, not a noble, but still very charming and influential.

-Matt

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Euan: I would imagine that a big problem is that any play-by-post platform that isn't free won't get a large enough number of participants to be worth checking out over the free options. It's a classic chicken-egg problem.

That being said, I imagine that Roll20 is in a good position to add in asynchronous-play features. I think what you're looking for would be better accomplished by a VTT rather than by a bulletin board.

Speaking of... Whatever happened to the Gamespace VTT? Wasn't that thing positioned to make tons of money selling licensed AP content?

-Matt


Another of the players here. I've been thinking of the magic-user thing, and I wonder if the campaign would be better served if we didn't have any primary casters. We'd need to rely on our wits and guile rather than spell slots.

Just a thought.

-Matt


I like the idea of the two of them being friends since childhood. It would be nice for Gabrielle to have someone who was close to her before she was sent away to the far side of the world, back when she was a cheerful teenage girl who was at her happiest when she was singing opera in front of an audience of her peers. Someone who wouldn't want to see her become a Dark Lady...

-Matt


Cool! I also think that we may have an interesting conflict of friendship that could come up. Where Genevieve seems to want to be a rather honorable and knightly Lady, Lady Gabrielle tends to solve problems with cleverness and deception.

-Matt

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What's the next AP?

-Matt


Perhaps Genevieve and Lady Gabrielle could know each other? They are both daughters from faraway estates. Friends, even?

-Matt


Thanks Lord Rook. The reason I ask is because it would be nice to have one item handle +5 to Bluff, Diplomacy, Intimidate, etc. instead of having to cobble it all together using multiple items that overlap each other and take up multiple slots.

-Matt, kicking around skill unlocks and rogue talents now...


I'm working on Lady Gabrielle's inventory here. Does anyone know how to price a circlet of persuasion that adds +5 to Charisma-based checks instead of +3?

-Matt


I am really enjoying the challenge, hehehe.

-Matt


I wonder if this book due out this month will have any interesting ideas for us:

Cohorts and Companions

As for the role of Lady Gabrielle's house, the backstory has her family estate being from Margeride, a province up the Sellen river from Cassomir, bordering both the Verduran Forest and the nation of Andoran. Her family lives about as far away from Oppara as possible, but Gabrielle's mother, Lady Florianne, manages to wield a large amount of influence by being the center of gossip, fashion, and funding for the arts. Gabrielle is constantly in her mother's shadow.

This is largely because Gabrielle has outright refused to be married off to the wealthy matches her mother has arranged for her. Lady Florianne has very expertly concealed the fact that Margeride is facing incredible debt, and intends to leverage her own popularity and influence into a joining of houses which would effectively end their debt problems. The only problem is that her rebellious daughter Gabrielle has no desire to go along with it.

Lady Gabrielle, though, is a clever individual herself. She knows that her family will not meaningfully punish her as long as she stays youthful and attractive enough to keep charming Florianne's choices of husband. Gabrielle's goal is to find a way to undermine her mother, get her older brother Gérard out of the way, and take the family title for herself. Then she'll be perfectly able to get Margeride back on track. Just how terrible can the debts be? It's not as if there were any infernal bargains or anything.

And then, worse comes to worse, she has the Dark Lady to eliminate her obstacles for her...

-Matt

P.S. As for how she picked up Ninja powers in the non-PFS environment, I'm still working on that one.


I'm not sure if this question has been answered. I was browsing through the Stamina section and I saw that the stamina power for Improved Feint doesn't actually do anything. It lets the feat-holder spend stamina to Feint as a move action, even though Improved Feint lets you do just that.

Also, the stamina power for Gang Up also does not actually do anything, based on the current FAQ about counting as your own ally.

I know, I'm probably the only player in the world who does characters that are affected by these sorts of things, but...

Does anyone know whether there been any clarification on these particular stamina powers?

-Matt


Heh, "Barman..." sounds like a fun guy to hang out with on a Saturday night.

I'm thinking that this "Dark Lady" doesn't show up very often. Only when Lady Gabrielle can't find any other clever way to inflict due suffering on her enemy will she resort to the costume. The reason being... Unlike, say, Bruce Wayne, she really likes being herself, and her primary motivation is to hold on to her freedom to be herself. Note that a lot of this is coming from a pretty elaborate backstory that I am in the process of de-PFSizing. The Dark Lady is a tool in the box, not her primary hobby.

As for a cohort, man... I'll figure that out next.

-Matt


On the other hand... some say that at least one of her targets committed suicide after receiving cruel humiliation by the hand of the Dark Lady. She might avoid killing, but is her harsh treatment any better? It makes her a rather controversial figure, I would imagine.

-Matt


The Dark Lady, eh?

Challenge accepted. Let's have the persona be a black-clothed, hooded lady with some Calistrian iconography here and there. She is known for cruelly and publicly embarrassing her targets in all sorts of vicious and ironic manners. One time, when the sun rose over the city, her target was discovered hanging upside-down from the roof of the orphanage he was using as a front, tarred and feathered. Another time, she left her target so bewildered that she appeared at the autumn ball wearing all the jewelry she had stolen from the royal family. And another time, she smuggled the baron's secret mistress into his own birthday party by hiding her in the twenty-layer cake. The Dark Lady doesn't just bring the corrupt into the light; she goes as far as ruining her targets and everything they have ever accomplished. Those who have seen her quickly make note of her impossible agility, her mocking laugh, and her uncanny ability to strike in the moment of her target's triumph.

-Matt


Hmm...

The more I think about, the more I imagine the Lady taking on different personas as needed. She's clever, she's capable, and she knows it, so if she can't get things done as Lady Gabrielle, she can just dress up as something else. She loves reading adventure novels, and she was an actress before our story begins, so she understands how to craft a narrative in the minds of her audience. She knows how to use theatrics in order to achieve the desired effect. Kinda like what Ra's al-Ghul talks about now that I think about it, to circle us back around to Batman.

So, if she were to take on the role of a caped crusader, it would be a persona tailored to the situation. Like... If she needs to inspire the underclasses, she'd dress up as a folk hero and make very public appearances. If she needs to scare a particular noble, she'd dress up as some nightmarish creature and stalk him as he travels around the city at night. If a costumed hero can get things done better than she can, she is able to make that change.

So I guess the question is... Does Oppara need a Dark Lady? And will the emergence of one further the party's desires?

-Matt


She originally got created in Season 3 of PFS, when Ultimate Combat first came out. The idea was centered around an armorless aristocrat who uses her ladies' fan as her primary weapon. Turns out the fan is a Monk weapon, and thus the rest. Also, Forgotten Trick as a toolbox power is tons of fun.

That being said, if Taldan Batman is what the city needs, then she does have a pretty good Disguise modifier.

-Matt


Can'tFindthePath wrote:
By the way, anyone ever notice Ninjas can take Rogue talents, but not Advanced talents.
Ultimate Combat wrote:
Advanced Talents: The ninja can select a rogue talent from the list of Advanced Talents in place of a ninja trick. The ninja cannot select a rogue talent that has the same name as a ninja trick. The ninja cannot select improved evasion unless she has evasion (either as a class feature or as a ninja master trick).

Also, Apocryphile, you left off Light Steps.

-Matt


This is going to be tons of fun. I'll have to familiarize myself with the downtime rules as well as de-Pathfinderize Lady Gabrielle's storyline going into this, and I look forward to it.

Since I seem to have yet to actually ask... can I do an Unchained Ninja? I would basically swap out the Unchained Rogue's Trapfinding, Evasion, and Danger Sense for the Ninja's Poison Use, Ki Pool, No Trace, and Light Steps. I ask because in play, the concept is too cool for school and I would love to revisit it.

-Matt


Yep, tons of interest from over here. I'm looking at an Unchained Ninja10/Sohei Monk2, a version of my favorite Taldan aristocrat character from PFS.

-Matt

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That faction mission was the best faction mission ever. Erik Mona is so cool.

-Matt


It has been a long time since I played a character who wasn't a lone wolf, largely because of all my time in organized play, so this will be an interesting challenge. I wonder what I will come up with.

-Matt

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When the underlings have such a miraculous ability to consistently solve the problems, is it really blindsiding? Or are they merely putting on an act, pretending to be less powerful than they are, while arranging for every last problem to be taken care of with a minimum of lasting consequences?

It's one thing to luck into one or two particularly effective agents. It's another to have an army of them. No other power in Golarion has done that.

If the Decemvirate were to show their full strength, there is no way that, say, Cheliax would continue to allow them to operate untouched.

-Matt


Fifteen points will work. Off the top of my head, that's one mere attribute point away from Lady Gabrielle's original state array. Less work for me, hehe.

Also... What do you envision, out-of-character, to be the role of the cohorts granted by the Scion abilities? Will they be constant companions? Behind-the-scenes assistants? A second adventuring party? Something else?

-Matt

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Jeff: When their underlings (the PCs) have such a high success rate and such a small amount of negative consequences for their actions, it can't be dumb luck. They have somehow managed to recruit a veritable legion of the most effective troubleshooters in the world. That's not luck.

-Matt


Here's a thought: by how much would a typical game be sped up if none of the PCs were full-progression casters?

-Matt


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People who check out after their turn is over. These are the people who don't know about buff spells until their turn comes up, who don't know how the combat has changed since their previous turn, and who have to be notified individually that they need to make a saving throw against a party-wide effect.

When information has to be repeated multiple times, that multiplies the time those information-generating actions take. When four players have to be told, individually, what Haste does, the game slows to a crawl.

Also, bonus stacking really slows things down.

-Matt

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The Decemvirate maintains loyalty with XP, gold, magic item availability, and prestige points. Their underlings are motivated by self-interest, and they know it. Why else do so many player characters take them up on their offer to become a Venture Captain?

-Matt


I actually like that we are delving into aspects of Pathfinder that aren't often seen. I especially like the Noble Scion gestalt. It will make this game very unique!

-Matt


I haven't really gotten to do a deep read of Unchained yet, since I don't actually own the book yet. I'm mainly looking at taking Lady Gabrielle's original build (Ninja10/Sohei Monk2) and Unchaining those Ninja levels. The Cha-based ki pool is just too cool for school.

As for skills, her main ones will likely be Bluff, Diplomacy, and Sense Motive. I haven't seen the skill unlocks yet.

I have a question about the Noble Scion gestalt. Do we want to leave out Dilettante Studies? The option to increase casting level means that we'll have 14th-level casters with 12 levels of the class.

And starting in Oppara? Excellent!

-Matt


This is great, Phoenix! I'll get started on a new version of Lady Gabrielle here.

-Matt


Oh, I was just referring to using the Unchained Rogue stuff and applying it to Lady Gabrielle. I have yet to see an actual copy of the book, so I don't know the full extent of what's in it.

-Matt


Phoenix Hunter wrote:
Matt, would you like to bring Lady Gabrielle to 12th? or do you have another you would like to introduce?

I'd love to bring the Lady back out again. What do you think of my playing around with Unchained?

-Matt


How about it, fellas?

-Matt


I agree. Also, if this was the campaign that he really wants to take all the way to 20th, our hanging out and doing something else in the interim wouldn't stop him from returning.

I didn't make it through recruitment, so I would be an extra player to help the new game go off.

Shall I start on my aristocrat character?

-Matt

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