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Wow, a whole page went by, and no one mentioned Evasion at 2nd?

That's surprising.

-Matt

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Thanks for that link as well, Dudemeister. I had only heard of "Gamergate" in passing before that. It looks like what's going on here is that, well, the human race has this thing now called the Internet, and our connected society, we're having growing pains.

That being said, death threats are not OK. I have a feeling that our collective privileges, like anonymity, will be going away in time, because a few trolls are going to ruin things for everyone, and there's really nothing we can do about it.

I wonder... is this Internet social problem a uniquely American thing?

-Matt

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Captain K. wrote:
PCs have an incredible amount of money. Or at least they should have.

This is a major assumption that you are making here. The thing is... PCs, by and large, don't have very much money. They have magic items.

Just as I can't lug my television down to the grocery store and buy some yoghurt, PCs aren't really able to take their magic girdles and vestments down to the town square and buy some lettuce. Conversely, the idea that magic items are freely bought and sold is ludicrous. How much effort would it take for the owner of an apparatus of kwalish to find someone willing to pay him 90,000 gold pieces in coin? How difficult would it be for a player character to find the exact apparatus he is looking for in the exact color he finds pleasing, just sitting on a shelf to be sold?

That would be like trying to go to 7-Eleven to purchase a fighter jet. "I'll take that F-14 over there on Aisle 2, in periwinkle blue please. And a Slurpee."

It's just impractical to assume that magic items are the equivalent to cash.

Also, PCs tend to not have any actual incomes that perpetuate beyond whatever they take off of cold, dead corpses, barring certain infinite-wealth spell schemes. PCs have to do actual work for their items which are not actually money.

"But Mr. Strophic! What about the wealth-by-level table?"

All that table does is create an artificial method of showing the DM how many magic items the game expects him or her to hand out to the party. All the magic item gold-piece values do is create an artificial method of saying that a belt of incredible dexterity +2 is equivalent to four pearls of power I when taking up space in a character's magic item loadout. The only reason gold pieces are referenced is because the developers haven't found another way to codify magic item limits.

What this means is that PCs are actually as wealthy as the coins in their pockets, of which, in the case of your witch, there aren't many. Once the assumption of magic items being equivalent to cash is dispelled, your average player character, turns out, is not wealthy at all.

-Matt

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I started looking at feat chains which are pretty long by pulling up the Advanced Player's Guide. The list got very long very quickly, so while commentary would take a long time, I'll submit a list of long feat chains for discussion...

-Two-Weapon Fighting/Improved Shield Bash/Shield Slam/Shield Master/Bashing Finish

-Combat Reflexes/Bodyguard/In Harm's Way

-Power Attack/Improved Overrun/Charge Through

-Step Up/Following Step/Step Up and Strike

-Dodge/Mobility/Sidestep/Improved Sidestep: Dang, that's a long chain.

-Combat Expertise/Gang Up/Team Up

-Combat Expertise/Second Chance/Improved Second Chance

-Scorpion Style/Gorgon's Fist/Medusa's Wrath/Cockatrice Strike

-Dodge/Mobility/Combat Reflexes/Combat Patrol

-Point Blank Shot/Rapid Shot/Rapid Reload/Crossbow Mastery

-Power Attack/Furious Focus/Dreadful Carnage

-Blind-Fight/Improved Blind-Fight/Greater Blind-Fight

-Improved Unarmed Strike/Combat Expertise/Improved Trip/Ki Throw/Power Attack/Improved Bull Rush/Improved Ki Throw - The longest feat chain in the game?

-Nimble Moves/Acrobatic Steps/Light Step

-Shield Focus/Missile Shield/Disruptive/Spellbreaker/Ray Shield

-Mounted Combat/Shield Focus/Mounted Shield

-Dodge/Mobility/Shot on the Run/Parting Shot

-Combat Reflexes/Disruptive/Spellbreaker/Teleport Tactician

-Dodge/Mobility/Underfoot

-Mounted Combat/Trick Riding/Mounted Skirmisher

Then I made it to Ultimate Combat...

-Quick maneuver feats

-Maneuver strike feats

-All the style feats

-Improved Unarmed Strike/Adder Strike/Improved Two-Weapon Fighting/Pinpoint Poisoner

-Quick Draw/Persuasive/Betrayer

-Two-Weapon Fighting/Improved Two-Weapon Fighting/Break Guard

-Point-Blank Shot/Charging Hurler/Improved Charging Hurler

-Power Attack/Cleave/Cleaving Finish/Great Cleave/Improved Cleaving Finish

-Dodge/Weapon Focus/Close-Quarters Thrower

-Diehard/Deathless Initiate/Deathless Master/Deathless Zealot

-Combat Expertise/Improved Feint/Deceptive Exchange

-Vital Strike/Devastating Strike/Improved Devastating Strike

-Dimensional Agility/Dimensional Assault/Dimensional Dervish/Dimensional Maneuvers/Dimensional Savant

-Combat Expertise/Improved Feint/Disengaging Flourish/Dodge/Mobility/Disengaging Shot

-Combat Expertise/Improved Trip/Drag Down

-Dodge/Weapon Focus/Close-Quarters Thrower/False Opening (or the other way)

-Combat Expertise/Improved Trip/Felling Escape

-Combat Expertise/Improved Trip/Power Attack/Felling Smash

-Final Embrace/Final Embrace Horror/Final Embrace Master

-Weapon Focus/Dazzling Display/Gory Finish

-Haunted Gnome/Haunted Gnome Assault/Haunted Gnome Shroud

-Weapon Focus/Weapon Specialization/Critical Focus/Impaling Critical/Improved Impaling Critical

-Combat Expertise/Two-Weapon Fighting/Improved Two-Weapon Fighting/Improved Two-Weapon Feint

-Weapon Focus/Dazzling Display/Intimidating Bane

-Improved Unarmed Strike/Stunning Fist/Jawbreaker/Improved Grapple/Bonebreaker/Greater Grapple/Neckbreaker - That's seven! A tie with Improved Ki Throw!

-Dodge/Mobility/Landing Roll

-Blind-Fight/Combat Expertise/Moonlight Stalker/Moonlight Stalker Feint/Improved Feint/Moonlight Stalker Master

-Exotic Weapon Proficiency (net)/Net Adept/Two-Weapon Fighting/Net and Trident/Net Maneuvering/Net Trickery

-Improved Unarmed Strike/Nightmare Fist/Nightmare Weaver/Stunning Fist/Nightmare Stalker

-Dodge/Mobility/Combat Expertise/Improved Feint/Passing Trick

-Weapon Focus/Dazzling Display/Performing Combatant/Master Combat Performer

-Improved Unarmed Strike/Improved Grapple/Greater Grapple/Pinning Knockout

-Improved Unarmed Strike/Improved Grapple/Greater Grapple/Pinning Rend

-Power Attack/Improved Bull Rush/Raging Throw

-Improved Unarmed Strike/Improved Grapple/Greater Grapple/Rapid Grappler

-Power Attack/Improved Bull Rush/Rebuffing Reduction

-Rending Fury/Improved Rending Fury/Greater Rending Fury

-Weapon Focus/Point-Blank Shot/Rapid Shot/Snap Shot/Improved Snap Shot/Greater Snap Shot

-Improved Unarmed Strike/Combat Expertise/Improved Trip/Ki Throw/Power Attack/Improved Bull Rush/Spinning Throw - Another seven-feat chain directed at monks. Very similar to Improved Ki Throw as well.

-Diehard/Stalwart/Improved Stalwart

-Improved Grapple/Stunning Fist/Stunning Pin

-Weapon Focus/Two-Weapon Fighting/Point-Blank Shot/Rapid Shot/Snap Shot/Sword and Pistol

-Weapon Focus/Two-Weapon Fighting/Twin Thunders/Twin Thunders Flurry/Twin Thunders Master

-Combat Expertise/Two-Weapon Fighting/Two-Weapon Feint

-Improved Unarmed Strike/Combat Reflexes/Vicious Stomp

-Exotic Weapon Proficiency (whip)/Weapon Focus (whip)/Whip Mastery/Improved Whip Mastery/Greater Whip Mastery

-Weapon Focus/Dazzling Display/(Dramatic or Hero's or Savage) Display

-Point-Blank Shot/Precise Shot/(teamwork feat)/Enfilading Fire

-Combat Reflexes/Improved Critical/Seize the Moment

-Combat Reflexes/Dodge/Mobility/Matt...

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This discussion brings up a question... where does the perception that one needs non-Core material to participate come from? When did Additional Resources turn into Required Resources?

-Matt

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Pathfinder seems to be stuck between the simulationist design philosophy and the, well, fantasy design philosophy, which is not unexpected for a system using 15-year-old rules.

It appears that we have an Old Way of, for example, longbows being Just Better than shuriken, in competition with a New Way of a style-first, any-concept-flies fantasy approach, where a shuriken-user is just as viable as a longbow-wielder.

In other words... let's hope that 2nd Ed does away with backwards compatibility, so it can jettison the Old Ways which hold the system back.

-Matt

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I'd like to see a new edition largely because I'd like to have something Pathfinder-related to buy again. The system has gotten so bloated and powercrept that new options are a detriment to the play experience, and the APs haven't been compatible with with the power level of the game since around Ultimate Magic or so.

It would also be nice to see a departure from certain outdated mechanics, like Challenge Rating's single-monster combat assumption and the four combats/day assumption. It would also be nice to see a well-functioning and well-supported higher-level game. But now I digress; we each have a laundry list of desired changes.

-Matt

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Is "The Paths We Choose" considered the faction retirement scenario for all eight factions, meaning that we can GM it and apply the Chronicle received to any of our characters?

-Matt

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TetsujinOni wrote:
I would wish to remove the class of players who call for the removal of character classes from PFS.

Given enough time, and enough terrible table experiences, this class of players will eventually leave the campaign. I would imagine your issue will likely solve itself, Oni!

-Matt

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*bump*

I miss the old way. I wish PFS would have at least kept the old style in place in Seasons 0-4. I've only had bad experiences with Secondary Success Conditions, and I really enjoyed having a task all to myself every session, and how I could challenge myself to complete the task in a cool and clever way.

-Matt

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There's no reason to worry. People who complain about Hard Mode not having additional rewards don't actually want Hard Mode. They just want to stomp everything in Easy Mode and brag about how easy they have it due to their their super-genius powergaming skills.

-Matt

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David Neilson wrote:
Really, it sounds more like "Hey lets start the Illuminati!"

Golarion already has an Illuminati. There are (supposedly) ten members.

-Matt

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That doesn't actually work as a contingency. The wall of force does not affect your person.

-Matt

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So do critical hits at the dinner table.

-Matt

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The Inner Sea Pirate prestige class seems quite fitting.

-Matt

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Kyle Baird wrote:
How about a scenario where the PCs try to help one of the Society's 20th-level Seekers prepare for the test?

An entire scenario? I admit I am blushing; I did not know that I had such a distinguished admirer among the authors.

Best wishes,
-Lady Gabrielle d'Apcher

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For the issues with the Rules forum, it would be nice to see some sort of mechanism for curation of rules questions and their answers. Like maybe an upvote/downvote system to promote the posts which answer the question. Sort of like Stack Overflow.

As it is right now, the Rules Forum is the place where good questions go to die, as well as clog up the search function for future users with rules questions. I wonder how many hours the Pathfinder community has wasted wading through so many useless and misleading posts in the Rules forum.

-Matt

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It's also entirely possible that the spread of the church of Sarenrae actually is a Qadiran plot to conquer Taldor without going against the wishes of central leadership. It's possible that Taldor had very good reasons to institute the ban.

Anyways, we really could use a new Taldor book. Hopefully, this interesting piece of shades-of-grey canon will be either reinstituted or replaced with some other really interesting shades-of-grey aspect of the country.

-Matt really enjoyed helping out the cultists while planning how to sell them out while playing in that PFS scenario.

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David_Bross wrote:
Lessons of Chaldira is fine now though, it was nerfed to allowing you a reroll before the failure/success is revealed, which is far less powerful.

Okay, that's good news, thanks for that.

Alchemical allocation basically lets an Alch4 get the extract benefits of being an Alch7. And if the Alchemist can find a higher-CL potion on a Chronicle (ex: Ruby Phoenix Tournament), it really gets out of control. Also, there have been some items printed since Allocation which make it really spin out of control even more.

I'll have to think about the Pageant of the Peacock masterpiece. My off-the-top-of-my-head reaction tells me that Bards need a bone considering what's allowed in PFS these days. Either way, Pageant is definitely not the highest-priority option to remove. It would be silly to remove Pageant but keep Slumber Hex, for example.

-Matt

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Speaking of flying-pouncing monstrosities, I can make a few contributions to this list off the top of my head...

-Source severance
-Slumber Hex
-Lessons of Chaldira
-Summoner
-Gunslinger
-Bladed dash
-Alchemical allocution
-Clustered Shots
-The resonant power for the clear spindle ioun stone
-Emergency force sphere

-Matt

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It's my experience that chases are great when the GM goes for the abstract, highly-descriptive approach instead of the concrete "these are 30' foot spaces, here are the very-specific obstacles with very-specific ways to get past them" approach.

The players need to be on board, too, as they need to be willing to play along and be abstract and descriptive instead of bludgeoning every obstacle with numbers alone.

-Matt

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Nicos wrote:
But if for some reason you go for higher optimization (without even going for broken things) the rogues fall behing the other roguish characters, do we agree on this?

I won't disagree with that. I took the DPR challenge with Raquel, and she fell short of an Archaeologist10's DPR. However, the Archaeologist busted out a bunch of daily resources. At the same time, though, I never sat at a PFS table with a roguish character that outdid my Rogues.

So, if the daily resource use doesn't come up, the Archaeologist will win out. If the daily resources are an issue, Raquel is looking a lot better.

This right here is, IMO, one of the fundamental problems of Pathfinder. So much of the game is balanced around daily resources, yet there are no built-in mechanisms to enforce that restriction.

The Rogue and the Fighter have zero built-in per-day abilities. The board really dislikes the Rogue and the Fighter. I do not believe that this is a coincidence.

-Matt

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Gelmir wrote:
So, in short, after 2,500+ posts the answer is NO, we CANNOT make the rogue "work" ... There will always be a class that can fill the rogue's role more effectively.

The existence of a more powerful option does not invalidate the less powerful option. You're basically saying that bicycles can't get you a mile down the road simply because cars exist.

-Matt

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Chengar Qordath wrote:
The problem being, of course, that applying a similar level of system mastery to non-rogues produces characters who can shatter published content.

I agree with you, Chengar. It's not very difficult to produce characters who blow through published material. The APs are designed for a party of four 15-point characters with very few non-Core options, meaning that adding in all the powercreep which has occurred since will smash things. The Rogue, I'll say, started off behind a bunch of other classes, and hasn't gotten the same powercreep boost that other classes have received.

That being said... Can we make the Rogue work in published content? Absolutely. The Rogue just doesn't turn published content into Easy Mode like several other classes (with their powercreep) do.

So, if you and all of your group enjoy Easy Mode, I can understand avoiding the Rogue. There's plenty of material out there for you and your group to build whatever Smashy McSmashersons you want. But if you or any of your group don't enjoy Easy Mode, the Rogue is a pretty good idea.

-Matt doesn't enjoy Easy Mode.

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Has anyone mentioned source severance yet?

-Matt

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Over the years, I have come to the conclusion that the canon speaking of the current state of the Empire is in a place where the primary elements are all in the mind of the reader. Josh Frost spent quite a lot of his word count on Cassomir rather than on developing the Empire itself. Consider that this thread speaks more about Princess Eutropia than the canon's two sentences ever did.

The answer to the original poster's question is whatever you want it to be. We would need a new and well-done setting book to have any more to work with.

-Matt

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It is worth noting that Lady Gabrielle d'Apcher, the esteemed and talented aristocrat hailing from the Empire of Taldor, has reached 20th level.

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Yeah, that article has me curious and excited for what's coming this fall. I wonder what sorts of fresh ideas the three global admins are bringing to the table, and how both PFS and this Moonsea campaign can learn from each other as well as provide a good experience for a greater variety of players as a result of there being more content out there.

-Matt

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MrSin wrote:
Rogues aren't actually a very good face because they don't get much to go into their face skills other than skill ranks and in class.

And that's kind of my point... skill ranks, the class skill bump, a decent attribute, and maybe some magic items... that's all you need. And once you can hit all your DCs, just like when you're spanking every combat you run into... any further improvement is unimportant.

It's not about achieving the highest modifier after expending a whole bunch of traits and daily spells. It's about being able to hit your DCs. I'd even say that the characters who can do that with the least resource expenditures are the "best" face characters.

-Matt

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Assuming that figure is correct, I'd say that the real question here is:

Why?

Why are so few games at Tier 7-11? Why are so many players dropping out of the campaign before they play Tier 7-11?

Even if the campaign were to add fifty Tier 1-5s a year, that would not address the issue of player retention that the Tier 7-11 figure is indicative of.

-Matt

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This is likely an un-repliable thread. The people who are excited don't know enough to cite anything specific to be excited about, and the people who aren't excited would be accused of trolling if they posted.

-Matt

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There's also the option of working things from the other end. If your players crave action and danger, kindly inform them that bringing Easy Mode PCs will deny them and their tablemates of the desired experience. PFS won't let you adjust the scenario to the PCs, but you can adjust the PCs to the scenario.

-Matt

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Alexander Augunas wrote:
Rogues get an at-will Dex-to-damage option in Flight Stunt; while clearly not a Level 2 talent, flight isn't exactly hard to pull off at higher levels.

Note that Rogues cannot actually take ranks in the Fly skill. On top of that, the flight stunt requires a Fly check against CMD, as a swift action, while charging from the air. That's not exactly at-will. But apparently it's so powerful that the extra damage needs to be precision damage.

Alexander Augunas wrote:
Swim Stunt is great if you're playing an unterwater game, or better yet, if you're GMing a game where the PCs are forced to go underwater. It's situational, sure, but it's situationally deadly.

Do you know how many rounds, and thus how many dice of sneak damage, would have to be sacrificed for this talent to have any actual effect at all?

A 14-Con enemy can hold its breath for 28 rounds. We're looking at at least 20 rounds the rogue would have to strip away, by sacrificing 20d6 of sneak attack. Keep in mind that the Rogue can only make the attempt (which fails on a missed attack, might I add) once per round. And this stunt doesn't actually kill the target, it just forces the target to start making Constitution checks. Sneak attack damage, that does work to kill the target. Simple mathematics tell us that using this stunt actually makes the target live longer than it would if the Rogue rolled his d6s.

-Matt

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TheSideKick wrote:
i cant seem to find the quote, but you can always count as your own ally unless it says otherwise.

Here we go.

-Matt

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Sneak attack was nice in 3.5, when you could give a halfling rogue a ring of blinking and a sackful of acid flasks. In PF, it's not so good.

Though blink may not work so well for achieving ranged sneak attacks, tiny hut still does.

-Matt

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I love how he's such a stock version of his class, with nothing from all the splatbooks that players have access to.

-Matt

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Thomas Graham wrote:
Any scenario in the 7-11 range that lets my Gunslinger Kyrie put a bullet into Torch's head for good please.

Hmm... I wonder what Torch ever did that made him worth killing. I thought he was the good guy, waging a campaign of accountability with a side of vengeance against the well-deserving Decemvirate.

-Matt

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Hmm...

I wonder... does greater magic weapon actually stack with furious, or does it simply provide a "constant overwrite" effect of the weapon's enhancement bonus?

If the latter... then the greater magic weapon/furious/courageous combo doesn't really work, and courageous simply requires a CL 16+ casting of greater magic weapon to go nuclear.

-Matt

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King of Vrock wrote:
With courageous he still needs to make an attack with the weapon to gain the bonuses.

How does that work with Rage, Vrock? Do the barbarian's hit points, saves, etc. bounce up and down based on whether he is attacking? If so, when exactly does the barbarian stop attacking?

See the weirdness?

-Matt

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TetsujinOni wrote:
I do not see a way to structure a card-based range-related chase which is both compelling and has any potential for entertainment past APL 7.

Off the top of my head, I'd say:

-Is there a reason why ranges can't be abstracted?
-Is there a reason why chases have to be conducted in six-second rounds?
-Why do the obstacles need to be ones which, as you say, don't stand up to ability scaling?

I remember designing a chase for The Golemworks Incident...:
meant to cover the case where Black teleports away. If I remember correctly (this was about eighteen months ago), the mod doesn't cover what happens next, because the text assumes that the players incapacitate Black. The chase scene I drew up for it had the players pursuing Black through investigation, making checks to track down Black's safehouse in the city before Black could burn his loose ends and get away. I basically came up with Law and Order on index cards. There, I abstracted both time and distance.

The chase scenes we have seen from Paizo have been low-level chases. That does not mean that adaptation past 4th level is impossible.

But that's for another day, and for scenario authors to consider, not so much for the GM running an existing chase.

-Matt

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Though this will never happen, it could make for a good discussion:

-Reduce PFS characters' point-buy down to 15, as well as sharply reduce the number of Additional Resources offerings which a given character can take, in order to align the power level of PFS characters with the power level that Paizo products expect.

In other words, if the APs assume 15-point PCs with little to no non-Core options, would PFS be better served if its PCs adhered to the same baseline?

-Matt

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It's worth pointing out that if we have table variation over something as simple as drawing or sheathing an item, based on the language of the Core book, a revision of the Core book is long overdue.

-Matt

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Hi everyone,

I stumbled across this earlier today. Looks like big changes are coming to the leadership of the Society! I was pretty blown away, but I'll let you guys read and find out about what's happening to the Decemvirate yourself.

Once There Were Ten...

-Matt

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I've updated the previous posting with a revised version of the illustration of Lady Gabrielle. The above link no longer works.

-Matt

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I recently commissioned a portrait of the lovely and elegant Lady Gabrielle d'Apcher. The Lady is pictured in an example of her adventuring garb.

-Matt

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Mark Seifter wrote:
The top Lymnieris devotion boon, which anyone can get at super-high levels for one feat, allows limitless lowering of people's age categories with no apparent duration or reversibility.

Good call. The method I'm thinking of is not a player option, though, as in not related to a feat, spell, class feature, etc.

Anyways, I'm really glad to see that we've moved well beyond "Doesn't work in PFS. Sorry." and we are coming up with ways for the original poster to accomplish his goal.

-Matt

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It is only sometimes in my nature to be mysterious. This is one of those times. Call it a PFS Mystery, and perhaps a goal for your character?

To rule a few options out, the method I am thinking of is not a class feature.

-Matt

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It is always a pleasure to learn of another of the shining examplars of etiquette which serve to define our renowned society. They are the public face which drives our glorious reputation throughout the world.

-Lady Gabrielle d'Apcher

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The Fourth Horseman wrote:

But ... It was permanent. You got better?

Yep! I can read your post right now! The 50% miss chance on all keystrokes was a real pain there.

-Matt

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