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The NPC wrote:

Mr. Mark Seifter,

Are eidolons allowed to use the variant multi class rules? What about a rogue eidolon?

Lol, we can totally create a rogue rogue eidolon now. A rogue eidolon with the rogue VMC.


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Deadmanwalking wrote:
London Duke wrote:
I didnt realize it was only a bonus to melee attacks and damage for the barbarian's new rage mechanic. It does seem like the barbarian's damage will take a bit of a nerf due to not being augmented higher for 2handed weapons combat. Or is the bonus increased when using a 2handed weapon?
It isn't, but even at Greater Rage, that's only -2 damage per hit, which is simply not that big a deal.

The real nerf is that barbarians no longer benefit from the courageous weapon enchantment because the bonuses are no longer moral bonuses. Though, the whole furious courageous weapon thing was kind of silly.


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Yay! I've been wondering if that is how mithral was intended to work, glad to hear it :D

Just a request: if you do a FAQ about taking 10, please make it cover taking 10 in general and not just knowledge checks. To this day I constantly get into arguments with people who think you can't take 10 on a climb or disable device check because they say "Failing would cause something bad to happen, so you can't take 10". D:


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Ick, I don't want to be a downer but.... don't we already have enough information about the core races? We have some races out there that have like, 2 or 3 pages of background, while the core races have dozens or hundreds of pages already.


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I think I am going to houserule that players can give up feats at a faster rate in order to gain abilities from their VMC picks. I really dislike the fact that you don't really gain the the things that make you feel like a member of these classes until like... level 15 or 19 in a lot of cases. The campaign is basically over at that point.


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Interesting fact: The dimensional feat line is so feat intensive that only a fighter would be able to afford to get that, be skiled with a weapon, AND varient multiclass before something like level 15.


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brad2411 wrote:
Fighter multi class to get the conjuration teleportation school of magic and then all the dimensional feats. Or a brawler with that nice.

That is actually kind of frightening. I think we can finally have anime style teleport-step fights.


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Hey James! I'm in a campaign right now where I've been trying to introduce Daikitsu as a more active deity. However, I've been having some problems coming up with ideas for a few reasons and was wondering what your thoughts on the subject were.

1. Diakitsu seems to be mostly a Diety for farmers, family, and craftsman. Nature as well. In what circumstances would she aid or be interested in an adventuring party? Maybe when they are protecting a village or something?

2. Daikitsu is a Kitsune, and her primary worshipers are kitsune. However, she seems to have very little in common with them aside from the whole 'mother of the race' thing. Sure, kitsune are loyal and have interests in craftsmanship, but they seem to primarily be known as enchanters and tricksters. Why do they seem so different from Daikitsu?

I know that Daikitsu is essentially a re-flavored version of the Japanese god Inari and that is why she has her domains, but I am just trying to figure out why she seems so different from her race in the context of Golarion and what it means for them.

3. If Daikitsu worship were to spread into the Inner Sea region, do you think it would change in any way or run into any barriers? I know that Gozrah is very similar, but s/he seems to have little direct interest in *people* the way Daikitsu does, so it seems like farmers and communities would find Daikitsu to be an easier god to relate to.


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Alexander Augunas wrote:
C) I don't like the idea of "spell level access = more tails" because it undercuts the idea that nine-tailed kitsune are rare. They should be. Since nine-tailed kitsune aren't even mentioned as being a thing in any of their racial descriptions (but white-furred kitsune ARE, which also comes from Japanese mythology), that leads me to believe that polytailed kitsune are rare enough that they're seen as being myths / stories among kitsune, let along other races.

I can understand that. I guess my aversion to the magical tail feat line (and why I often give the tails to a character for free) is because while the individual abilities sound powerful it is pretty much impossible for a character to get them at an early enough level that they are meaningful.

Actually, my real aversion is that in my opinion a nine tailed kitsune should be *frightening*. It should be an event to run into one. In actuality, in almost every instance, the players would be relieved to run into a nine tailed kitsune because it means he spent his feats unwisely! The idea that a nine-tailed kitsune sorcerer is inherently weaker than any other kitsune sorcerer blows my mind, but unfortunately that is the way things are. So... I just give them their tails for free for flavor sake so they have a chance to go with a real character build.


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Every time my new monk uses the flying kick, I am going to make Liu Kang sound effects.


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If you don't like the summons, why don't you just have the player use one of the archetypes that replaces summon monster rather than just banning the entire class? Spirit Summoner for example.


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DominusMegadeus wrote:
That's terrible. I can still sneak attack them, but doing the exact same thing as last round is suddenly impossible because it already happened once?

When it comes to surprise attacks, the fact that it is the exact same thing as last round is exactly why it wouldn't work.


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Oh wow, the Feral Hunter has suddenly become pretty good. The inability to have a long duration summon to use those teamwork feats with was a huge design problem in the original version.

Yay, I need to run one of these now. Thanks for taking the time to make these archetypes more effective :D


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My favorate solution against swarms: summon another swarm and watch them fight it out. Did this on a low level druid once.


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First, you should make it clear before the campaign starts that the fights won't all be tailor made for the party. They may run into something that WILL kill them if they fight it head on.

Second, if the characters are about to fight said unbeatable encounter, give them all DC 5 wisdom checks to realize that this is a really bad idea. By having a roll be involved, that makes it feel like their characters realized this rather than an out of game voice saying "no you shouldn't fight this".


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A lot of people here seem to be forgetting that the demons at least need to have a 'reliable description' of where they are going. If adventruers want to keep a surprise teleport from happening all they have to do is move their campsite. Add something to block scrying if necessary.

Depending on how reliable of a description the GM requires, a king could fool a teleport spell just by moving his bedroom to another part of his castle or changing the furniture every once in a while. Of course, this is completely ignoring the fact that a king should be able to pay to have his castle constantly dimension locked.


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Undone wrote:
feylund wrote:
how come people think all nongood acts are evil.... neutral is an alignment..
The souls of your enemies may taste like chocolate but consuming them is still definitely evil.

I said it before and I'll say it again: there is nothing in the ability that says anything about any souls being harmed in any way. Aside from it being separated from the body of course.


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I kind of hope that all of the Wild Talents get scaling spell levels and DCs based on the character level rather than static numbers like they do right now. That way the Kineticist won't feel like he'll need to replace all of his low level infusions because of the low save DCs (like burning).


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Free utility powers is definately high on the list of things that I would like to have for the Kineticist. Playing a Pyrokineticist and not being able to at least generate my own light sources without a torch (or setting an enemy on fire) kind of drove me crazy in my playtest, but it is also something that I couldn't afford to spend a wild talent on if it was an option.


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Serisan wrote:
Having recently played the same module, I can safely say that it's simply not a good test for many characters. Ranged attacks and limited vision, combined with low mobility that prevents you from repositioning away from cover? No bueno.

True, though I didn't really have a way of knowing this ahead of time ;)

I have to say though, I don't think having more lighting or maneuverability would have changed much in this game. The biggest problem for me was that there was really no where I could go in order to get a clear shot. Unfortunately, this sort of cramped dungeon crawl stuff happens all the time for adventurers! I might have to try and fit in Kinetic Blade as an alternative way of dealing damage, but with the concentration checks I'm not sure it is worth it.

In my opinion though, part of a measure of a class is how well it can function in non-ideal circumstances. If its primary ability can be rendered ineffective too easily then that shows that the class either needs more variety and support powers or needs to be extremely effective when it is in ideal conditions. Right now I'm seeing neither of these qualities in the Kineticist.

I guess I'll just have to see how things go in the next level/senario. Not sure what the next game will be.


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Just a thought on a simple way to let Kineticists to choose a 'combat style' at 1st level. Package in a bonus feat with certain existing Wild Talents. For example:

Extended Range grants Precise Shot
Kinetic Fist grants Improved Unarmed Strike

These would be permanent feats, not just ones that are active when burn is being used. The idea is that if the character is choosing a Wild Talent to use his Kineticist powers in a certain way, he shouldn't be having to spend a bonus feat as well to use it.


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So, I was building a 1st level Pyrokinetisist, and I realized something funny. Despite being able to produce fire from his hands *at will*, he still needs to carry torches!

It would be nice if each type of Kineticist got an at will cantrip that matches their powers. For example:

Aether: Mage Hand
Air: Ghost Sound?
Earth: Mend
Water: Create Water
Fire: Dancing Lights/Spark

I know it has been mentioned before, but I also have to point out that I feel forced to play a Human so I can get Precise Shot at level 1. The class probably should get an early feat that lets the player choose their fighting style.


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One person mentioned that Natsu from the Fairy Tail Manga would obviously be a Pyrokinetisist. For those who don't know, Natsu is a 'Dragon Slayer' type character, who essentially follows a 'fight fire with fire' theme. He uses fire infused punches and breath attacks, is immune to most forms of fire, and can eat/absorb flames to become more powerful or rejuvinate himself. It has never been shown, but I believe that his fires can also damage creatures that would normally be immune to fire.

If there were powers available that allowed us to emulate Natsu's fighting style it would be *amazing*. I'll go ahead and share a few rough power ideas.

Elemental Immunity/Resistance: The Kinetisist is immune or resistant to elements associated with his blasts.

Absorb Element: Requires Elemental Immunity. The Kinetisist can absorb energy related to his element. Whenever damage is negated by his energy resistance or immunity, he can choose to store this energy instead. When using an ability that would inflict Burn upon him, the Kinetisist can use a number of points of stored energy equal to his level to decrease the burn cost by 1. The Kinetisist cannot store energy damage from his own attacks.

Kinetic Breath: The Kinetisist can build up elemental energy within his body and release it from his mouth as a cone or line attack that deals damage equal to his blast. Reflex DC = 10+1/2 lvl + Con Mod. Burn 2

Kinetic Slayer: The Kinetisist's attacks can ignore an amount of energy resistance or damage reduction equal to his level. By paying three burn, he can ignore all energy resistance, immunity, and damage reduction for one round.


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One thing that worries me about the class is its lack of AOE attacks. You can't create the equivilant of a fireball until level 16, and almost every chain lightning or line based attack requires attack rolls. This means that most kineticists can't do anything against swarms.


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Misnik wrote:

Also it seems to me there is a distinct lack of AoE damage that feels like it should be intuitive of elemental damage. The explosion infusion is very high level for what it does, even if it adds to your simple blast.

I agree. I love this class so far, but it really needs more AOE at lower levels. Especially for the fire element: it is kind of weird that they only get single target attacks that don't affect most swarms until level 16.

Personally, I would also recommend that a burn option be added that lets the character bypass elemental resistance and immunity. Maybe 1 burn per 10 points of resistance ignored, and 4 points of burn for bypassing immunity on a single attack. It would be an expensive last ditch option for players at least.


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I have to say though, Oracles have simply terrible saving throw bonuses without the divine protection feat. They kind of needed something. They get only one good save and none of their saving throws match up with their primary stats. In Wrath of the Righteous our GM allowed Divine Protection because without it the Oracle would have needed 20s to make the DC 35-40+ saving throws that high tier mythic enemies and Demon Lords throw around.


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As soon as I saw the Eldritch Scion archetype for the magus, I knew that I wanted to build one. The magus class feels much more 'natural' as a spontanious caster.

The issue is that the Eldritch Scion cannot use any of the traditionally good options for the Magus. They cannot use metamagic because spontanious casters use it too slowly. They cannot use Arcana that cost arcane pool points because they need to save those points for activating their bloodline and spellstrikes.

Because this kind of magus is so different from most magus builds, I figured it would be good to come here for advice. The character is about to hit level 3, so I can still make build choices for level 3 and higher.

I choose to go with the arcane bloodrager bloodline for its sweet sweet buffs. Because the very first bloodline power increases the concentration check DCs of nearby casters by 2, I am thinking of going with the following anti-caster build. By having the Arcane Bloodline, Disruptive, and a Distracting (lesser) weapon, I can force casters near me to have a -11 penalty to their concentration checks to cast defensively.

I'm not selecting the Arcana to get Swashbuckler's Precise Strike because there is some question of whether or not it actually works with spell combat.

Kitsune Eldritch Scion
Str 11, Dex 18, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 16 (Using Boon for exta +2 stat bonus to Dex)

lvl 1: Weapon Finesse, Disruptive Bloodrage
lvl 3: Dervish Dance, Familliar (+4 Init)
lvl 4: +1 dex, Arcane Bloodrage
lvl 5: Step up, Combat Reflexes
lvl 6: Disruptive Arcana
lvl 7: Following Step
lvl 8: +1 dex, Greater Arcane Bloodrage
lvl 9: Spellbreaker Arcana, Step Up and Strike
lvl 11: Improved Critical (Scimitar), Improved Initiative

So yea... very heavily anti spellcaster build, but thanks to the arcane bloodrage abilities which can give him Displacement and Resist Energy this character should be very effective as a melee combatant as well.

Any thoughts on ways to improve this build, or builds that may be superior for the eldritch scion? I am aware that certain other races (such as humans) might be better for this than a kitsune, but that aspect of the character is already set ;)


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Combat Expertise is one of the worst feat taxes. Many people get the feat as a prerequisite and then never use it.


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So, I have been seeing a lot of people on the boards talking about how Arcane Deed can give a Magus a huge damage boost by picking up Precise Strike. However, part of the wording of Arcane Deed makes me wonder if it really works that way.

Arcane Deed wrote:

Arcane Deed (Ex): When a magus takes this arcana, he can

pick any one deed from the swashbuckler class feature as long as that deed can be used by a swashbuckler of his magus level. The magus can use that deed by using points from his arcane pool as the panache points required for that deed. A magus can take this arcana multiple times, each time gaining a new deed. The magus must have the flamboyant arcana (see below) to select this arcana.

Arcane Deed doesn't say anything about gaining the passive effects of a Swashbucker Deed. It doesn't even say that the Magus really gains the dead. All it says is that you can use a point from your arcane pool in place of a panache point to use the deed. Maybe this was intended to place a limit on what deeds a magus could really benefit from?

Yea, I may just be reading into the rules too much, but I figured I should draw attention to this to see if it needs to be put in the FAQ.

EDIT: I just thought of something else. There is nothing in either Arcane Deed or Flamboyant Arcana that gives the Magus a swashbuckler level when using the deeds. So presice strike would give the magus a +0 damage bonus as written anyway....

Another Edit: Just so you know, I am asking this partly because I play in PFS. We often have to follow the rules as written regardless of the intent until the FAQ says otherwise. Because of that, the writting is a bit problematic here.


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The thing that really bothers me about the new Dex to Damage feat isn't how it works. It is the 'Weapon Focus' prerequisite and how much it hurts non-humans.

If you are a non-human swashbuckler and want to pick up dex to damage on a weapon with this feat, you have to pick up weapon focus on a weapon that you *can't use with swashbucker's finesse*. Then you are stuck with that useless weapon finesse feat for two levels until you get Slashing Grace. Humans just pick up both at first level.

As much as I am glad that we at least have a Dex to Damage feat... This is like dealing with the Point Blank Shot/Precise Shot requirements of archery at low levels all over again.


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It only took one thing for me to like this book: the trait that lets your sorcerer bloodline be that of a outer dragon. I just wish that the trait's wording worked for bloodragers as well, so I could make a Solar Dragon Bloodrager for PFS :D


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The more I read, the more this becomes my favorate book from Paizo ever.

The number of options in the book is staggering. I especially love the options that let you create a character with abilities from other classes. There are a number of characters concepts that I was unable to build effectively a year or two ago that I am now able to build because of this book.


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Tangent101 wrote:
Can I ask a question: Why are you even using Mythic? I mean, you might as well not use Mythic at all. It's not like you can't use WotR with standard characters. If you never use any of the Mythic abilities of the enemies (leaving hit points and damage output as-is) then the extra magic items in the module help compensate for the increased difficulty.

Good question. Well, personally I like the mythic abilities that give fancy powers, but I hate the ones that simply increase the numbers (including damage, ability scores, spells per day and such). Basically, I think the numbers in pathfinder are high enough already, and that mythic needs to be more about awesome powers. So, if I run a mythic game I will probably edit the rules to reflect that.


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I am getting funny pictures in my head of axe wielding dwarven swashbucklers :)


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SilentInfinity wrote:

Yep, static Charisma to saves.

You'd have to be at least 5th level and be something with the domain, mystery or a new class feature for one of the classes: blessings. There's knowledge ranks required too in religion.

Clearly it had to be obvious almost every oracle would take this. There's one in a game I play that wouldn't since he's battle and has low charisma. But many oracles will want this.

Cleric, Inquisitors, etc might want depending on charisma. So I'm guessing the designers looked at this with a "okay, really good for most oracles, others may like."

So, if I have a Swashbuckler take say... a one level dip into Cleric, I'd be able to pick up charisma to saves at level 5?


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I will say that I am very pleased that I'll be able to use weapon finesse+dex to damage with a katana ;)

Might still use a Wakizashi since it is Piercing and Slashing though.


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Personally, I would recommend either blocking Mythic Spells from being modified with metamagic, or setting a limit. That's probably the real problem rather than spell perfection.


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Alexander Augunas wrote:
Question: What's stopping me from keeping my animal companion dead and reaping four succulent benefits? How does that ability work?

I'm guessing that this is a temporary boost to help you in the battle where the animal died. That way you don't become immediately useless when you lose your teamwork pet ;)


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Oooo, I'm really liking this class now. Especially the Feral Hunter archetype, I want to try a Feral Hunter Skinwalker :D


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feylund wrote:
Prince Abdul Bin Falafel wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

The grand lodge:

Ambrose Valsin: Announcement! Starting this year will will allow unlimited number of kitsune to join our field teams!

"Woo hoo! now i don't have to hide." *turns into a kitsune*

"Me either!" *wolfs out*

"Me too!" *pops into foxform*

Ambrose facepalm. "Is anyone here NOT a kitsune?"

A seemingly Keleshite man wearing a burnoose and hot weather outfit raises his hand while whispering to his herald

The herald turns to Ambrose Valsin and speaks

"His Royal Highness Prince Abdul Bin Falafel wishes to inform you that he is not a Kitsune, but rather, an Aasimar whose heritage is so distant he just looks as if he is human."

:D

Right before his herald turns into a kitsune

I totally created a human swashblucker who is going to turn into a kitsune as soon as they are legal without a boon. :)


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I just don't get it when people complain that eidolons are more powerful than animal companions. The eidolon is the main point of being a summoner, while every class that uses an animal companion gets them as a secondary feature. I would be increadibly disapointed in the summoner class if the eidolon was any weaker than it currently is.

Edit: Druids with their full spellcasting, animal companion, easy summons *on top of* having an animal companion, and shapeshifting are arguabily far more powerful than a summoner. Druids just require more system mastery.


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Adding this to my wishlist for the book: official rules for buffing monsters and bosses to compete against optimized parties. It would be interesting to see if Paizo can come up with something more interesting than just slapping on advanced templates or extra hit points, while still being quick.


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If I could request anything for this book, it would be official rules to kill the big six magical items. If I could play a game without ever seeing a cloak of resistance....


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thejeff wrote:
Matrix Dragon wrote:

Hold on, people actually believed they could use Eldritch Heritage(Arcane) to give a non-sorcerer non-arcane class sorcerer spells?

I entertained the idea briefly a year or two ago, and then quickly decided that that it wasn't supposed to work that way and was an unintended side effect of the eldritch heritage feats, lol.

Of course they did.

Unintended side effects are what system mastery is all about.

In my opinion, true system mastery includes skipping all the things that would make a GM say "NO, it clearly wasn't meant to work that way", lol. That's what I would have said if any of my players tried this on me. ;)


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Stark_ wrote:
My comparison, at least, was to the paragon surge spell...

Just wanted to mention: Paragaon Surge has finally recived the nerfs that it deserves. You can essentally use it to only learn *one* new spell each day. The FAQs have been updated.


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Odraude wrote:
Ssalarn wrote:
Artanthos wrote:
Matrix Dragon wrote:
I know that the current version of the summoner can be hard for new players and GMs to handle. However, I just hope that the new version of the Summoner won't lose quite all of its customization powers. To me, the ability to use the summoner class to create any companion for your character that you can imagine is what makes it special (and one of my favorate classes).
Agreed. Please don't kill the ability of the summoner to customize their eidolons.
These are going to be new takes on the classes. Even if the "Unchained" Summoner doesn't have a customizable Eidolon, that isn't going to make the current Summoner suddenly cease to exist. They've been pretty clear that these aren't replacements, just alternate versions of the still perfectly valid core materials.

Unfortunately GMs don't work that way. If you give a GM the option of the much maligned APG summoner and the PU summoner without the headache of the eidolon, most are going to go with the latter. It's like how Pathfinder is 3.5 compatible and lets you use your old books, but you'll be hard-pressed to find a GM that does allow 3.5 material.

Unless the new summoner is grossly worse or more overpowered than the original summoner, it's essentially going to replace the APG one in the minds of many a GM.

This is exactly what I'm worried about. Especially if the new summoner ends up being completely diffierent from the old summoner class.


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Deadmanwalking wrote:

To clarify the issue I'm having, it's not about content, it's tonal. And I'd go further and say there's some on both sides of the argument.

It's not that people object to any criticism of Paizo, it's that people on that side of the argument are coming off as really upset, specifically in a "How dare they!" or "They're incompetent!" kinda way...which is not generally conducive to a productive conversation. As well as seeming to leap to conclusions about the final class, which is part of the reason for the above emotions and also doesn't help the situation at all.

People on the other side, meanwhile, are ridiculing the first side despite them having perfectly reasonable balance concerns given the info currently available, which is also not generally conducive to productive conversation.

So can everyone just take a step back and calm down a little? The issues being discussed are legitimate, I just think something of a tonal shift is needed for the discussion to be productive.

I think you may be getting the wrong feeling from a number of the people who are posting. Remember that emotion (or lack there-of) does not convey well in a written medium.

Should I start adding smilies to everything I say? ;)


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I also hope that this book will give the under supported ranged attack types (such as crossbows and thrown weapons) the support they need. Archers have plenty of support already.


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One other thing that Paizo is missing so far is a good implementation of a Kitsune Star Ball. The Star Gems magical item is currently kind of a poor substitute: its importance to a kitsune isn't even close to the stuff mentioned in various Asian legends.

The closest and simplest thing that I've been able to come up with is a variant arcane bonded item, but I'm sure there is a better way to do this one.


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I created a character modeled after naruto in one game, but it can only be done with Gestalt: Synthesist Summoner 20/(Monk 4/ Ninja 16).

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