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Alexander Augunas wrote:
Sorry to steal your thunder, but I was already kitsune obsessed before the first Dragon Empires player companion had come out ;)
Our current campaign is the first time in years that I am not playing as human. It's hard not to when humans have the best options.
This is why my campaigns have houserules to keep people from feeling forced to play a human. It just feels odd that in a world full of fantastical creatures humans are the best (or close to the best) at everything.
I know that Golarion is human centric, but as several other people have said: that doesn't mean I have to like it ;)
I have to ask... why do you all care so much about the kineticists single target damage? Not all classes have to be good at that, and this is seriously the thing kineticists are worst at. In my opinion, if you are building your kineticist while only caring about single target damage then you are doing it wrong.
I'm building a pyrokineticist that will be able to do the following by level 11 *at will* without even having to take burn: throw a small fireball that causes all of its targets to save or be blinded, hit enemies with an infinite number of dispel magics (while burning them), create smokescreens, or simply throw 11d6+12 (or so) 10-ft radius blasts at-will. He will have a half-dozen ways to work around fire immunity and stay useful in combat. If this character ever throws a blast only to do damage to a single enemy then he is wasting his round, because there is so much more he could be doing. And this is the least versatile type of kineticist!
My quick thought on the vigilante is that I think you should focus on making each type of vigilante more based on some of the existing Prestige Classes in the game (such as arcane trickster, shadowdancer, and master spy) rather than basing them on the Base Classes. We already have 1-20 versions of the base classes, and they can just do a 1 level dip into Vigilante if they really want a secret identity.
Use the vigilante as a chance to give us something new and also continue your trend of giving us 20 level versions of the prestige classes. Heck, the vigilante is giving you a chance to make 20 level versions of THREE different prestige classes!
Just a thought: the Fey Divine Power alters the character's spellcasting list. Why not just combine Warlock and Zealot and let the character's Power source selection determine whether he is an arcane or divine spellcaster?
That way you can combine their talent lists and don't have silly things like Warlocks being able to hide their spellcasting while Zealots can't.
I like how this background shows the difference between a psychic and a sorcerer. It seems that, unlike a sorcerer, a pyschic has to spend a lot of time studying and learning in order gain a propper grasp over how to unlock the power.
I wonder if this means there will be a psychic sorcerer bloodline or archetype to represent those that this power comes to naturally?
Edit: I should add that this iconic background is really cool as well ;)
My confession: I outright refuse to play "Core Only" pathfinder, or any other version of it that signifigantly restricts my ability to customize my character. I am fine with a GM asking me to tone down a character's power or when he restricts a few things for setting reasons, but if he starts doing blanket bans of entire books just for the sake of it then I'm not interested in the campaign, lol.
I would also be extremely happy to continue to see paizo add more and more books to pathfinder for as long as my house can contain the books. The more options the better!
Yay! Glad to see some additional Kitsune stuff is coming out and I'm looking forward to trying to use some of the new options on my current one. Not that I wasn't already looking forward to seeing more stuff for my sneakier characters. ;)
It is cool to see the non-core races getting mentioned though. It often seems like a race will only come up in the book that it is introduced in, and then maybe a compilation book, and then never again. XD
What are your favorite races Matrix Dragon?
Well, I don't want to derail any more than I already have, but: Skinwalker, Kitsune, Kobold, Undine, Tengu, and Ratfolk.
I guess Kobolds are Inner Sea, but they are usually evil and have a weird/bad stat spread. They are kind of difficult to play in a standard campaign. Hmmm, I wonder how big of a section Kobolds will get in this book.
James Jacobs wrote:
Thanks for the info James! I am glad that those updates are making their way in :) (I hope I didn't come off as confrontational)
Just curious, what are your thoughts on the way that many of the skinwalkers only gain their mental bonuses when shapeshifted? For example, Werebearkin have +2 Con/-2 Cha, and gain +2 Wis when they shapeshift. Wouldn't it make more sense thematically for them to gain their physical bonus when shapeshifted? The way it is right now it implies that they are physically bear-like all the time, and have to shapeshift to become bear-like mentally... which feels off.
These temporary mental bonuses also cause issues for spellcasters and other classes with special abilities, since they have to be in their beast form all the time in order to keep their bonus spells per-day and such.
Is it bad that I am much more excited about this book now that I've seen that the advertisement for it on the back of the Monster Summoner's Handbook has a two-tailed kitsune? It does make sense that kitsune would get mentioned (or at least get a picture) in a Dirty Tactics book, I'm just surprised that Paizo is actually bothering to acknowledge a Dragon Empires race.
I have a feeling that this is Alexander Augunas' doing ;)
Mark Seifter wrote:
I'd just like to point out that the bestiary entry for Agathions says the following: "Some are more humanoid in appearance, while others spend their entire existence in a form nearly identical to that of a true animal". Since you can effectively have Agathions that are nearly identical to real world creatures, the mount evolution fits them perfectly.
Sooo, if you guys do end up errating away the mount evolution for devils, we'd appreciate it being added for the Agathions ;)
Well, people used to think that all video game systems were "nintendos". These sorts of things don't last forever, though it will probably take longer in a smaller market like this one.
The real nerf is that barbarians no longer benefit from the courageous weapon enchantment because the bonuses are no longer moral bonuses. Though, the whole furious courageous weapon thing was kind of silly.
Yay! I've been wondering if that is how mithral was intended to work, glad to hear it :D
Just a request: if you do a FAQ about taking 10, please make it cover taking 10 in general and not just knowledge checks. To this day I constantly get into arguments with people who think you can't take 10 on a climb or disable device check because they say "Failing would cause something bad to happen, so you can't take 10". D:
Mark Seifter wrote:
I've always been kind of tempted to make the Breath Weapon evolution have unlimited (1d4 round delay) uses so there's an actual point to building the eidolon with it, lol. It always lags behind their attack damage anyway.
I think I am going to houserule that players can give up feats at a faster rate in order to gain abilities from their VMC picks. I really dislike the fact that you don't really gain the the things that make you feel like a member of these classes until like... level 15 or 19 in a lot of cases. The campaign is basically over at that point.
Hey James! I'm in a campaign right now where I've been trying to introduce Daikitsu as a more active deity. However, I've been having some problems coming up with ideas for a few reasons and was wondering what your thoughts on the subject were.
1. Diakitsu seems to be mostly a Diety for farmers, family, and craftsman. Nature as well. In what circumstances would she aid or be interested in an adventuring party? Maybe when they are protecting a village or something?
2. Daikitsu is a Kitsune, and her primary worshipers are kitsune. However, she seems to have very little in common with them aside from the whole 'mother of the race' thing. Sure, kitsune are loyal and have interests in craftsmanship, but they seem to primarily be known as enchanters and tricksters. Why do they seem so different from Daikitsu?
I know that Daikitsu is essentially a re-flavored version of the Japanese god Inari and that is why she has her domains, but I am just trying to figure out why she seems so different from her race in the context of Golarion and what it means for them.
3. If Daikitsu worship were to spread into the Inner Sea region, do you think it would change in any way or run into any barriers? I know that Gozrah is very similar, but s/he seems to have little direct interest in *people* the way Daikitsu does, so it seems like farmers and communities would find Daikitsu to be an easier god to relate to.
Alexander Augunas wrote:
C) I don't like the idea of "spell level access = more tails" because it undercuts the idea that nine-tailed kitsune are rare. They should be. Since nine-tailed kitsune aren't even mentioned as being a thing in any of their racial descriptions (but white-furred kitsune ARE, which also comes from Japanese mythology), that leads me to believe that polytailed kitsune are rare enough that they're seen as being myths / stories among kitsune, let along other races.
I can understand that. I guess my aversion to the magical tail feat line (and why I often give the tails to a character for free) is because while the individual abilities sound powerful it is pretty much impossible for a character to get them at an early enough level that they are meaningful.
Actually, my real aversion is that in my opinion a nine tailed kitsune should be *frightening*. It should be an event to run into one. In actuality, in almost every instance, the players would be relieved to run into a nine tailed kitsune because it means he spent his feats unwisely! The idea that a nine-tailed kitsune sorcerer is inherently weaker than any other kitsune sorcerer blows my mind, but unfortunately that is the way things are. So... I just give them their tails for free for flavor sake so they have a chance to go with a real character build.
First, you should make it clear before the campaign starts that the fights won't all be tailor made for the party. They may run into something that WILL kill them if they fight it head on.
Second, if the characters are about to fight said unbeatable encounter, give them all DC 5 wisdom checks to realize that this is a really bad idea. By having a roll be involved, that makes it feel like their characters realized this rather than an out of game voice saying "no you shouldn't fight this".
A lot of people here seem to be forgetting that the demons at least need to have a 'reliable description' of where they are going. If adventruers want to keep a surprise teleport from happening all they have to do is move their campsite. Add something to block scrying if necessary.
Depending on how reliable of a description the GM requires, a king could fool a teleport spell just by moving his bedroom to another part of his castle or changing the furniture every once in a while. Of course, this is completely ignoring the fact that a king should be able to pay to have his castle constantly dimension locked.
I said it before and I'll say it again: there is nothing in the ability that says anything about any souls being harmed in any way. Aside from it being separated from the body of course.
Free utility powers is definately high on the list of things that I would like to have for the Kineticist. Playing a Pyrokineticist and not being able to at least generate my own light sources without a torch (or setting an enemy on fire) kind of drove me crazy in my playtest, but it is also something that I couldn't afford to spend a wild talent on if it was an option.
Having recently played the same module, I can safely say that it's simply not a good test for many characters. Ranged attacks and limited vision, combined with low mobility that prevents you from repositioning away from cover? No bueno.
True, though I didn't really have a way of knowing this ahead of time ;)
I have to say though, I don't think having more lighting or maneuverability would have changed much in this game. The biggest problem for me was that there was really no where I could go in order to get a clear shot. Unfortunately, this sort of cramped dungeon crawl stuff happens all the time for adventurers! I might have to try and fit in Kinetic Blade as an alternative way of dealing damage, but with the concentration checks I'm not sure it is worth it.
In my opinion though, part of a measure of a class is how well it can function in non-ideal circumstances. If its primary ability can be rendered ineffective too easily then that shows that the class either needs more variety and support powers or needs to be extremely effective when it is in ideal conditions. Right now I'm seeing neither of these qualities in the Kineticist.
I guess I'll just have to see how things go in the next level/senario. Not sure what the next game will be.
Just a thought on a simple way to let Kineticists to choose a 'combat style' at 1st level. Package in a bonus feat with certain existing Wild Talents. For example:
Extended Range grants Precise Shot
These would be permanent feats, not just ones that are active when burn is being used. The idea is that if the character is choosing a Wild Talent to use his Kineticist powers in a certain way, he shouldn't be having to spend a bonus feat as well to use it.
So, I was building a 1st level Pyrokinetisist, and I realized something funny. Despite being able to produce fire from his hands *at will*, he still needs to carry torches!
It would be nice if each type of Kineticist got an at will cantrip that matches their powers. For example:
Aether: Mage Hand
I know it has been mentioned before, but I also have to point out that I feel forced to play a Human so I can get Precise Shot at level 1. The class probably should get an early feat that lets the player choose their fighting style.