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***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

Pathfinder Society events will be hosted at this year's Odyssey Con in Madison, WI.

You can find out more information on the convention, as well as the Pathfinder Society schedule, here .

We are still seeking volunteers to assist in GMing events. Two or more slots will get you free admission to the convention, and three or more slots will also get prize support. If you are interested in helping run scenarios at this event, please email me directly at

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

On Saturday, July 20th, Pathfinder Society comes back to the town where it all started: Lake Geneva, WI.

Join us at Lake Geneva Games, 918 S. Wells St. starting at noon for some great Society sessions. We'll be running Before the Dawn, Part 1: The Bloodcove Disguise, Rivalry's End, and The Waking Rune.

This is the first of what is to be a regular monthly Game Day at Lake Geneva Games. You can sign up for events on our Warhorn site:

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

Perhaps my search fu is failing me, but I wasn't able to find any threads with anyone organizing pre-con games at PaizoCon in July.

I'll be coming into Seattle Thursday afternoon, and would love to have a game or two to look forward to upon arriving.

Is anyone running any events that afternoon/evening, and if not, who wants to help me get things organized?

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There are many results that come up when I search the messageboards for posts about Polymorph Any Object. However, my search fu is apparently failing me, and none of the posts that I found addressed the issue that just came up in tonight's game. I looked through a lot of posts, but I simply don't have the patience to sift through 53 pages of results.

The posts that I have ready through all involve turning creatures into other creatures or items into creatures. There is, however, a decided lack of discussion (that I was able to find) about turning a creature into an object.

So, in tonight's session, the PC's were facing off against a pair of Imentesh Proteans. When the wild shaped druid showed off his combat prowess, the proteans decided to put an end to it and used PAO to turn him into a sofa. The druid tanked the save. This is where the problems started, and they came in waves. I'll just address them as they came up in the game.

First, the druid had a couple of spell effects active at the time (air walk and magic fang). After some confusion, it was decided that the spell effects would end, as the sofa would not have been a valid target. This was actually somewhat important, as the druid/tiger had been air walking directly above the party's paladin who was, at that moment, unconscious and bleeding out right underneath him. So a couch ended up falling on him.

The next issue that came up was if the sofa/druid was able to just wild shape into another form on his next turn. After a LOT of looking through rules, a very important fact came to light - the rules for the polymorph subschool are pretty clearly written with only the possibility of transforming from one creature to another, and not from a creature to an object. Also, the PAO description gives rules for transforming items into creatures, but is mute on the reverse process. The main issue here was whether or not the druid kept his ability scores as a sofa. Also, at this point, it was discovered that a creature retains its type when polymorphed. This lead to thought the spell effects (air walk, magic fang) should still be in active. However, in the end, it was decided that since he had been turned into an object, which does not have a type, that the rule about creature type shouldn't actually apply. After all, the idea of a ranger with favored enemy (human) getting his bonuses on a human polymorphed into a couch was just too silly. It was further decided that as his form was completely and totally transformed into a sofa, he did not have the proper physiological systems to support any sort of intelligent - he was just a sofa, not a sentient sofa-druid.

Once the encounter was over, and the point was moot as far as the session was concerned, this particular line from the rules for the polymorph sub-school was noticed:

"You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. "

The thought was that the druid should have been able to choose to not be affected by the PAO since he had been wild shaped at the time. However, after some post-game study, wild shape is actually a supernatural ability that mimics specific spells, not an actual polymorph spell itself.

EDIT: Probably already ninja'd, but disregard the previous. Somehow missed that wild shape is specifically called out as an example. So, even more confused, I guess.

However, that does bring up the rather strange case of a creature under the effect of Alter Self being able to shrug off a PAO - or, in other words, a 2nd level spell giving immunity to an 8th level spell.

So, while the easiest answer to this issue is simply house rule, the session in questions was a PFS game, and while everyone at the table was completely accepting of the rulings made, I'd like to get some insight from others (perhaps even a developer, should they happen across this) as to how the RAW function in cases like this. Perhaps there needs to be a FAW entry adding information somewhere down the line for creatures being polymorphed into objects?

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

Come on out and game for a good cause! Pathfinder is back again this spring at Gaming Hoopla in Janesville, WI. Come play the latest scenarios, some replays from Seasons 2 and 3, as well as We Be Goblins!, Dawn of the Scarlet Sun, the new Broken Chains module, and more!

Proceeds from Gaming Hoopla go to the American Cancer Association, so not only do you get to have a great time, you get to support a great cause at the same time!

Visit to register and for more information!

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

November marks the one year anniversary for Pathfinder Society in the
Madison/Janesville area, and we're pulling out all of the stops. We'll
be offering up some of the best scenarios from the first three Seasons as well as some of the newest ones. There's a lot of information below, including the November schedule and info about the raffle and prizes, so be sure to read on.

If you're not yet part of our Facebook group, please join up to keep up on all of the latest news about what's going on in November (and beyond!).

Here are our scheduled Game Day dates and times for November:

Saturday, November 3rd
Kryptonite Kollectibles - Janesville, WI
12:00 pm - 5:00 pm
We are planning on having a pizza party either during the event, or at a nearby Pizza Hut immediately following the game. We've got a couple of prizes to give away at the end of the Game Day as well!

Saturday, November 10th
Pegasus Games - Madison, WI
12:00 pm - 5:00 pm
Pizza will be provided during the game day, as well as a number of prizes.

Saturday, November 17th
I'm Board! - Middleton, WI
5:00 pm - 9:00 pm
Pizza and some great prizes provided by the GameHole!

Saturday, November 24th
Misty Mountain - Madison, WI
10:00 am - 9:00 pm
Pizza will be provided throughout the day, and prizes will be raffled off at 7 pm.

Misty Mountain has also started scheduling Wednesday night PFS games. You can
email for more information on scheduling.

Now, on to the prizes!

At every game day in November, players and GM's will be able to receive raffle tickets for the prizes that will be drawn at the Misty Mountain Game Day on the 24th at 7 pm, and you must be present to win. Here's how you can earn tickets:

Play! - You will receive 1 ticket for each scenario in which you play
Run! - You will receive 2 tickets for each scenario that you GM
Recruit! - You will receive 1 ticket for each new player that you bring to an event.*
Purchase! - You can buy extra tickets for $1 each, or $5 for six tickets!

* A new player is defined as a player who has not yet participated in one of our
regular game days or conventions, and they must play in a scenario. Only one
ticket will be awarded for each new player, so couples who bring friends will
need to decide who receives that ticket. New players will also receive a ticket
for playing, as normal.

So, that's how you get tickets, but what can you win, you ask? Well, prizes are
still rolling in from various sources, but here's what we have so far:

- A small number of Pathfinder Tales novels
- A copy of the most recent Free RPG Day Module - Dawn of the Scarlet Sun
- One of the Huge Black Dragon miniatures from the Pathfinder Battles Heroes & Miniatures set
- A copy of Ultimate Equipment

As I mentioned, prizes are still being contributed, so stay tuned to our
Facebook group for more information there. Also, if the amount gained from ticket sales exceeds the amount of money spent on prizes, any excess amount will be put toward even more prizes.

If you would like to GM an event at one these Game Days, please let me know. We have a lot of slots to fill for the month, and we will appreciate any and all help!

It's ben a great year for us, and all of these things are our way of saying thank you to everyone that's helped up get to this point, and to all of those who will make the next year even more amazing!

-Matthew Starch
PFS Venture Lieutenant, Madison/Janesville area

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

We will be running a table of Tide of Morning starting at noon at Pegasus Games in Madison, WI on the 14th of July. We will also have other scenarios prepared to run based on the players who show up.

If you're interested, you can sign up here.

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

We're looking for some dedicated members to GM at Let's Play Green Bay in (surprise!) Green Bay, WI. The plans are to run four tables per slot with a projected five slots over the course of the convention. If you're in the Green Bay area or willing to travel and are able to give a hand, please let me know via PM. Details on pricing for GM's, etc. are forthcoming.

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

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this might be breaking my NDA, but in season four, all players will be given puppies each time they play a scenario. GM's get two puppies and a platypus as part of the revamped GM Rewards system. Also, funny hats will now be required by all, players and GM's alike, in the campaign.

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

So, a dialog has begun on the Pathfinder Society Facebook page that has become, essentially, a question about how to deal with diseases (particularly diseases that run the risk of death, like ghoul fever) between sessions.

My recollection was that the way it worked was as Josh Frost indicated here some time ago. I've been searching through the forums, but couldn't find anything updating or contradicting this, however, I wasn't able to find anything in the FAQ, either.

So, am I correct to presume that Josh's initial ruling is still the benchmark for how this works? Are there any plans to assimilate this more detailed explanation into a future version of the Guide?

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

One of the small disappointments I had during Season 0 of the campaign was the lack of specificity of some of the faction missions. They really are an opportunity to give a great narrative element to the campaign, but far too often, they fell somewhat short of that and really just seemed tacked on.

During the two years that I've taken away from the Society, I've still kept very (some might say obsessively) up-to-date on the changes in and direction of the campaign. I was really happy to see the addition of yearly story-arcs, more factions, and other elements of the campaign. I've since moved to a new area with no PFS presence and decided to get it started up. I was very excited to jump into the current season and introduce new players to the ongoing storyline.

While I wasn't terribly disappointed, I did have to give a little sigh as I was prepping The Frostfur Captives and noticed that the faction missions are still a little flat.


One of the first things I read when prepping a scenario are the faction mission handouts. When I came across the Osirian mission, I was really excited:

Loyal Servant of the Ruby Prince,

The pharaoh has few contacts in Irrisen, and the people are tight-lipped under the lash of the witches. It is
a land of great mineral wealth and heavy taxes, but all the wealth seems to disappear in Whitethrone. Your
mission has you passing through a small community. Find a local person willing to speak, and make some
discreet inquires about what exactly they’re mining and how much of it is going to the capital.
There are strange rumors about the monuments being constructed in Whitethrone, and wealth that
would buy a small kingdom. We wonder whether Elvanna might be attempting to construct a contemporary
“artifact.” You see, our interest is the mining industry is anything but mundane.

Wow, really exciting stuff. As a player, I would have been incredibly intrigued and amped up by getting this mission. The completion for the mission, however, is a big fat fail that basically comes down to "you find the guy, and he tells you stuff." No details of exactly what they are mining. This really could have been a really cool plot point to build off of in the future, or even to just get a player's imagination spinning. Sadly, it was a missed opportunity. It wasn't the only one in this scenario, but it is the one that sticks out the most.

Sadly, it's the exact sort of thing that I was disappointed in seeing during Season 0, and I'm a little disheartened to see that particular specter still hanging about. Granted, I can certainly make up the details (and I probably will), but to me, the lack of detail is a gigantic missed opportunity for a springboard for future plots - not just for events in future scenarios, but for upcoming modules, Adventure Paths, novels, and more.

I'd like to make a request/plea/suggestion to the authors, writing directors, and whoever else has a hand in these things, to try and utilize this great opportunity to its fullest extent going forward.

So, I'm looking for a feat that would allow a multi-classed druid to use their character level to determine the level of their animal companion. i've looked through the APG, UC, and UM, but the closest i've come is the feat that lets a cavalier use their character level to determine their mount's level.

i'm looking specifically for a PFS character, so it would need to be something that would be in the additional resources list.

does anyone know of such a feat off the top of their head?

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so, the announcement of PFO has me pretty excited. i haven't actually been interested in an MMO since back when Earth and Beyond was still around.

so, as the game is still in development, i think it would be a Good Thing (TM) to do some community brainstorming for things that we, as would players, would like to see in the Online game that could enhance or support Pathfinder Society.

one of the most obvious ideas that jumps out at me is the ability to earn special boons for PFS characters based on accomplishments in the game. i'm thinking that there would be way to send pdf's to subscribers when they achieve said goals. now, of course i see that there could be some possible abuse with this sort of system, but i think if boons were kept to small benefits, like those in the holiday chronicles, or time-sensitive, they could be pretty easily managed.

i'm sure some people will have a knee-jerk reaction to the thought of people that play the online game getting benefits that people that aren't playing don't get, but i think the idea is a good one to discuss.

who else has some ideas?

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

As I will be soon be starting up a monthly event and may have some players that are new to Pathfinder (and possibly some who will be first-time roleplayers in general), I was excited to see the pregens for the Beginner Box posted as a free download. I was hoping that I would be able to use the new-player-friendly format.

However, upon further inspection, it appears that while they are they same iconic characters, there are some statistical differences between the Beginner Box characters and the PFS pregens.

So, this leaves with a couple of questions:

1) Are the pregens from the Beginner's Box society-legal? I thought I remember hearing somewhere that they were going to be, but I just wanted to be sure.

2) Assuming they are legal, can new players use them similarly to the existing PFS pregens - i.e. play through a beginning scenario, but then apply the chronicle to a new non-pregen character?

If no to number two, then has any thought been given to changing the stats for the PFS-legal pregens to match those in the Beginner's Box so that using them would be easier?

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

So, I started playing and running PFS back at the very beginning of the campaign (event #13, oh yeah!). Sadly, I didn't get much of a chance to play, but I did manage to get up to 3rd level before the actual Pathfinder RPG released.

Since the release of the PFRPG, I have not had a chance to play, but I did run a few sessions after the rules for GMs getting credit for running scenarios were introduced. So I've got a few more scenarios that were (theoretically) applied to that character. However, since I knew that I was not going to be playing, and have not had a chance to play since then, I never took the time to update the character from 3.5 to PFRPG.

Now, I am looking at having some potential opportunities to play, so I've got a weird situation. Am I able to update her using all of the current additional resources allowed, even though there have been GM rewards that have (theoretically, anyway) been applied without updating. Or am I constrained by only the resources that were available at the time?

Of course, this is all contingent upon me actually finding what I did with the actual character.

***** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Madison aka Mat Black

The Madison-Janesville Area Game Society will be holding its inaugural Pathfinder Society Game Day on October 29th at Kryptonite Kollectibles (1441 Plainfield Avenue, Janesville, WI 53545) from 10am until no later than 6pm. We will be running the first installment of the First Step series to introduce new players and characters to the campaign.

If you are interested in attending, please visit our Warhorn signup page at You can also find us on Facebook at

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