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Developer. FullStarFullStar Pathfinder Society GM. 7,987 posts (8,769 including aliases). 19 reviews. No lists. 3 wishlists. 5 Pathfinder Society characters. 19 aliases.


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Dragon78 wrote:
What are the names of the adventure locations?

There are scores of them spread throughout the book. Some information you'll just need to wait for.

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This book, like the three volumes of the Book of the Damned and Chronicle of the Righteous, contains one new prestige class and a handful of other rules elements (spells, feats, etc.). It is primarily a GM-facing book, however, and thus contains more setting material than new rules content.

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Dragon78 wrote:
Wish they would have a prestige class that is the fey version of the dragon disciple.

For as many things as you'd like to see in the game that we can't possibly every deliver on, have you considered publishing your own versions of these concepts through the Pathfinder Compatibility License, either on your own or through a third-party publisher? I simply ask because every product thread contains tons of ideas you'd like to see, usually offered after the books have gone to print, and thus too late for us to include them, but I'm sure there'd be other fans interested in seeing your material see print, even if not in official Paizo material.

This is really off-topic, but you may consider checking out the Third-Party Publisher boards to see what opportunities there are for you.

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:

Oh, and if the TV show pilot happens to have the Guardians show up... SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

:P

So far they have been very reticent to cross the Marvel Studios and Marvel Television streams. Other than Samuel L. Jackson, Cobie Smulders, and Jaime Alexander, there really haven't been any from film>tv, and even Clark Gregg hasn't gone back to film after he switched over the to tv side. I wouldn't hold out too much hope of there being crossover, though maybe with the IMAX partnership they'll have a larger budget to afford people with film contracts in the show?

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I remember specifically sending a reference for what digitigrade legs looked like along with the art brief for the book for just this very reason. In the end, not every artist is going to follow every detail of every art order, and for complex and expensive content like covers, we sometimes have to accept things that are slightly off model because of the cost and time implications of demanding revisions.

That text is in the book because, like Alex indicated, it made sense to include for a number of reasons, and so that we had a definitive canon source stating what type of legs they have. That isn't to say that we won't have off-model kitsune art in future products, but it does mean that when it shows up, players who feel strongly about the issue know that it's an error or artistic license rather than a change in the race's official flavor.

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Cthulhudrew wrote:
Must have gotten pushed back so that they could put in the much-demanded gremlin subtype. ◕‿◕

We keep trying to do that, but every time, something goes wrong. It's like something's actively working to muck it up!

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David knott 242 wrote:

I would agree. They just copied and pasted stuff from the lower level versions of the spell to the higher levels and forgot to remove Bloodrager from the lists.

This is indeed an error. Spells listed as bloodrager spells of levels above 4 should not be on the bloodrager spell list.

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Gnomes should have rounded ears. Sometimes our artists go off-model and we either don't notice in the sketch stage, or we're on a strict enough timeline that sending art back for corrections would delay the publication of a book. Given the choice between having perfectly on-model gnome ears and having a book ship on time, we almost always choose the latter.

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Dragon78 wrote:
I am disappointed with this news actually.

I wouldn't expect anything otherwise.

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What I take away from this is that they're working with IMAX as a means of financing the pilot, which will generate ticket revenue independently of ABC's ad revenue. This could signal a shift in how effects-heavy media gets funded for the small screen going forward. After all, Doctor Strange has made $152M in two weeks, just 13M shy of its $165M budget. If they use that same budget for the season of television, that's a huge boost to what Agents of SHIELD gets, but they'd front-load the recouping of that investment, meaning even low viewership or ad sales would be negated by the IMAX ticket sales. It's a clever business plan; I'm eager to see how it plays out, in no small part because it could signal other properties making similar moves.

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NY Times wrote:
ABC, which urgently needs new hits, is betting that Imax, with its strength among younger consumers known as fanboys, will help make “The Inhumans” a must-see event.

As a younger consumer, known as a fanboy, I am incredibly excited to see this!

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doc the grey wrote:
I would also argue that since pathfinder races in general and catfolk in specific don't have many mechanical options exclusively tied to their race and with catfolk in particular lacking a lot of narrative as compared to many of the other races we are kind of only left with the art to discuss. So far it has kind of been the most distinct thing exclusive to catfolk.

There are a number of us in the office who would love to expand on the role of catfolk within the Pathfinder setting, but we just haven't had the opportunity to do so in the right place yet. While I had hoped this book would be present such a chance, we wanted to make sure to give every race included as many new rules options as possible. That meant that we couldn't focus as much on flavor as we might have in something like a campaign setting book or adventure path volume. Rest assured, however, that we will further explore catfolk ecologies, history, and society when the time is right. Until then, let us know how you want them to look, I guess.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Or maybe a designer is fond of The Fog from Pinky and The Brain? :)

Crystal wrote the ratfolk section, so you might be on to something.

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Thanks to everyone who kept the discussion here on topic and has answered questions about content thus far.

At this point, the book is starting to go out to subscribers, and as time progresses, more people will have the book than don't. So let's put a moratorium on the reveals of what's on every page of the book and give those still waiting something to look forward to exploring when they finally get their copies.

If anyone has specific questions regarding design intent, clarity, or errata, feel free to ask those questions and I'll do my best to answer them.

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Setting-specific content has appeared in "setting neutral" books before, dating back to the Pathfinder chronicler prestige class in the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook. Many monsters in our hardcover bestiaries are monsters from Golarion whose world flavor is removed more for space concerns (1 page per monster rather than two in AP volumes) than protecting our IP or maintaining some wall separating "generic" content from setting content.

In the same way GMs and players can leave out gunslingers, samurai, summoners, the Void domain, spells with the emotion descriptor, or falcatas,when playing their games (either in the Pathfinder campaign setting, in homebrew worlds, or in the Forgotten Realms and Ravenloft) they can just as easily use character options labeled as specific to Eagle Knights and use them for the Harpers or use Varisian spells and have them cast by a Vistani fortune-tellers.

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Yeah, Mick's ninja fascination was one of the series's high points so far over both seasons.

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Milo v3 wrote:
Can't even have a Cleric of Justice in Golarion.

Sure you can. The GM is the ultimate arbiter of what you can and can't have in any campaign set in Golarion.

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xobmaps wrote:
It has been a while since anything actually overheard was posted here...is everyone OK over there? Are they allowed out of the box the cookies were under yet?

busy

headphones

back to work

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That'd be a real shame.

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From what I've read, they spent a lot of their budget last year on licensing costs. For whatever reason, they had to pay to include certain DC IP on CBS that they don't have to pay for on the CW.

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Buri Reborn wrote:
Also, an Azlant-focused AP is currently in the works and will come out for Gencon next year. Seeing as Thassilon was founded by Azlanti exiles, I'm sure a lot of the information will carry over.

Just to manage expectations, the AP really doesn't touch on Thassilon at all, and most the Azlanti stuff we have planned is very much Azlanti rather than common ground between Thassilon and Azlant. Even then, it won't be about Azlant at its height, but in the ruined state it's in now.

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Tacticslion wrote:
Does anyone know how canon the comics are considered to the setting history? Because everything up there is just from the comics, so if they are not canon or are questionable canon... nevermind! XD

The comics are considered canon. The scripts are all vetted by (and often written by) members of Paizo's editorial staff, and all game content is developed internally, rather than by Dynamite. Other than the material's format and distribution by a company other than Paizo, it's as canon as anything else we publish.

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For that Golembane Warhammer +2, does it mean to say "For your combat check, reveal this card to roll your Strength or Melee die..." instead of "For your combat check, reveal this card to use your Strength or Melee skill..."?
Likely not. I expect Vic to post on this thread shortly by sighing, saying that the incorrect text always gets shown on preview blogs, and posting a FAQ entry.

Vic's on vacation currently, so any sighing and posting will likely happen next week (from him at least).

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The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game doesn't scale up to that level very well, which is one reason we've never statted up anyone stronger than demigods.

It sounds like you might be better served by a game like Mythender (a free game designed by former Paizo editor Ryan Macklin). A few years ago, Developer John Compton even made a blog post about a Community Use add-on to Mythender that allowed one to play the game with Golarion's pantheon. Check it out here.

TL;DR: You're not going to find official Pathfinder RPG material about mortals taking on deities, but other game systems or community-generated material might get you a close approximation.

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Mum-Ra wrote:

Ha! In your face Skeletor!

Walks like an Egyptian.

Well, that said... at least I have no personal dislike of He-Man. Can't say the same about Thundercats, which is in my top 5 LEAST favorite cartoons. So tread carefully, Mum-Ra!

I think the Thundercats are number one on Mum-Ra's list of hated cartoons. He certainly seems to get in fights with them a lot.


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Kalindlara wrote:
Huh. I'd been wondering who that was, ever since her art appeared in The Impossible Eye. ^_^

She was featured in a blog post back in 2010 that included not only her art, but also specifically named her. See here if you don't believe me.

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This is a book I've long wanted to make, but the timing has never been quite right. I'm sure we'll get around to it eventually, especially if Erik and Wes keep asking me for book suggestions. It's currently not on the schedule, however.

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The original intent of the Void Boys was that they be primarily rogues, fighters, and rangers. They're first and foremost brigands, and only adopted the name "Void Boys" after they found the weird statue. If the rumors of their use of undead are true, they'd need a cleric or necromancer of a high enough level to create and control all these undead. But any similarities between the void element and the group's name is coincidental, though you are certainly free to use all the void-related stuff that has come out since Moonscar was released if it feels right for your campaign.

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The Knights of Ozem were specifically an Arodenite order, but we have never detailed whether or not Aroden had a specific code his paladins adhered to, in large part because our setting assumes that he has been dead for over 100 years, and thus has no more paladins actively getting power from him.

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Jason Keeley: In a hundred years they're not going to believe doctors used to put mirrors and metal in people's mouths to clean their teeth. Isn't that a little barbaric?!

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I too am sad to see the fiction go, both because it means 6 pages of extra work for me to do on a monthly basis, but also because it was one of the elements of Pathfinder that first hooked me as a fan. Back when I was just "superfan" Yoda8myhead, I even made my own lulu.com compilation of all of Eando Kline's adventures so I could more easily read them on my daily commute (see this blog post from 2009 for pictures)—my first foray into publishing.

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The question of random encounter frequency came up at Gen Con, and I'm only now in the office to address it, so I wanted to take the opportunity to do so in case other GMs wonder how often to throw random encounters at their players in this adventure.

Because the adventure takes place in a relatively constrained area, and so much of the adventure is based on setting the mood and building tension, I recommend using random encounters sparingly, as they can easily take a party out of the story unless worked in seamlessly to the ongoing plot. Feel free to pick something from the Briarstone Asylum Encounters table on page 81 when the party becomes too comfortable or the story starts to drag, but otherwise, let the adventure present threats as written. If you do add a random encounter, consider using one that makes sense for the part of the asylum the PCs are currently exploring rather than one that might be more appropriate elsewhere in the adventure.

Additionally, the supernatural weather described in the Bestiary introduction makes for great encounters that aren't necessarily combat but can help increase the weird factor of the adventure. As long as it's appropriate to do so, I encourage GMs to use those effects over a random encounter during the adventure.


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Tacticslion wrote:


... and, speaking of, "heresies" or "legends" or something: that is, redacted or defunct information (retcons from older material). While those retcons are no longer true, it would be helpful if any apparent contradictions are noted somewhere, so that the wiki does not appear incomplete, and the retcon is easily referenced and known, so those trying to keep up with canon don't slip something in that is contradicted by later material. Even if you don't want it cluttering up the specific article page, you could add a link to a "ancient falsehoods" page or something, and just have a compiled list of "NOPE" organized by area or person (ex: "lies about Tar-Baphon" or "false/slanderous histories about Taldor" or something).
While only a little bit of what you are asking here, I feel this is a good spot to highlight our Canon Conflicts category any time we find conflicting information on a subject the conflict icon (the little assci cross) is added to the page, this category is added, and a link to a meta [pagename]/conflicts page is set up describing both points of the conflict and why one was chosen over the other in the wiki article.

The wiki is generally written from an in-world perspective (see Point of View), which means that commentary on in-world topics doesn't really have a place in primary articles. We keep discussion of canon discrepancies on secondary pages as a result.

To include retconned information in even something as isolated as the suggested list(s) would involve the wiki editors effectively creating canon. If there were an actual in-world false history, such as Stavian III spreading rumors that his father, Stavian II defeated an army of 200,000 Qadirans with a force of only 3,000 soldiers, that would belong in such an article. If, however, there were simply an error in recounting what year Oppara was founded, that's just a real-world error rather than some false history being spread in Golarion itself.

The official wiki policy for managing conflicts does not account for what is colloquially termed "fire cancer" by Paizo developers, however. This would be things like the Darklight Sisterhood, which were mentioned in early books but were later determined to be unworthy of further expansion—even to refute their existence or explain them away with an in-world justification. Rather than completely invalidate them for players who do like the idea of a secret society whose sole raison d'etre is to oppose another organization, and which is so secret that all members change their name to the same thing, a GM who wants to use them in her campaign can do so without going against canon. The wiki, for better or worse, simply reports the canon that exists on such topics, and never explains why no further information ever came out.

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captain yesterday wrote:
It also isn't helpful calling something "abhorrent on so many levels" without at least saying what some issues are. I get criticism of Hell's Vengeance, evil isn't for everyone. But I can't think of any time I've heard it used to describe Hell's Rebels.
When the last one is out and I have time to write a review of all of it, I might. It will indicate what I find abhorrent about the first when tied to the second, as they are clearly intended to be, which is why:
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Paizo is pretty good at avoiding mention of AP events in other products.

Was violated here, and why I took the moment to decloak regarding my opinion of the whole thing, since they did break an otherwise generally* observed policy of not having APs or modules interact with other APs or modules in pushing the gameworld.

As one of Paizo's primary keepers of canon, I can assure you that the default assumption for the campaign setting as a whole is that nothing has happened except what is listed in the Inner Sea World Guide. That is the baseline for the setting, whether you're running an adventure that came out in 2009 or 2016. From time to time, specific stories we tell, either in fiction or adventures, build on past stories we've told and so assume those specific elements have taken place. In such cases, we do our best to provide guidance for GMs who are running campaigns that don't include the previous events, or for whose groups they ended in non-standard ways. That said, it's entirely possible to run Hell's Vengeance and Hell's Rebels independently of the the other, as they don't overlap geographically or in terms of specific NPCs involved in both.

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Well, it really gets my Goat that they listed the 1973 Wicker Man, and not the superior, much more terrifying 2006 version.

This is one of those cases of sarcasm not coming through on the Internet, right?

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JiCi wrote:


Even deadlier: you tattoo SEVERAL images of creatures on the target's skin and THESE images ALL spring to life to attack the target.

Even even deadlier: you tattoo SEVERAL images of creatures on the target's skin and THESE images ALL spring to life and attack one another. The poor victim is caught in the crossfire and can't escape the gory conclusion because BOTH sides of the conflict are made of his own flesh!

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Seems legit

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Such books, while fun to read for a certain audience, don't really help players build characters, GMs run adventures, or fiction readers feel like they've read a good story. As such, there are almost always more useful books we can put our efforts toward producing. Further, they run a very real risk of painting us into creative corners. For example, if we release all of Iomedae's teachings in detail, and then want to tell a story down the road that either contradicts these teachings, or is based on things that are wholly absent from the in-world text, we've made it that much harder to tell that story, and thus, provided ourselves less room for making fun adventures, exciting fiction, or neat character options than if we'd left the canvas blank until we needed to fill in just the part that was relevant to our needs.

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Happy birthday!

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Dragon78 wrote:
This book would have been great if it came out within a year from Kingmaker's release but at least we are finally getting something for the First World.

A book's greatness is not dependent on its date of release but on the contents of its pages.

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Christina Stiles wrote:
If you'd like to help Steve's family, here is a Memorial Fund for Steven Russell.

Corrected Go Fund Me Link

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I'll post here what I posted on ENworld, where this news broke.

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Steve gave me my first paid work in the industry, and even after I moved on from writing and developing for Rite, he was always a vocal cheerleader for my professional progress. It can be overwhelming trying to catch up with every industry friend every year at Gen Con, but I always made a point of finding Steve (usually at the ENnies ceremony), sharing a drink, and catching up on the newest projects he had cooking. He will be greatly missed, both by the industry as a whole, and by me and others who called him a friend.

As a note of warning, for those particularly touched by this tragedy, the link in the OP leads to an image of the wreckage in which we can only assume Steve passed away. If this is something that might be difficult to see, consider the following article at ENworld instead: RIP Rite Publishing Owner Steven Russell

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I imagine Smuz branching into derro next.

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DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
If someone confirms that there is a section or subheading in this book titled: "First World Problems", I will pre-order the book right now.

We already did that on the back cover of "Fey Revisited"

But even without puns, this book will be full of all sorts of awesome that are worth your immediate pre-order. I promise.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Theory:

Aroden and Ranalc voted to leave the Golarion pantheon. Motion carried.

The fallout from Rexit will take generations to fully comprehend.

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MMCJawa wrote:
So how similar will this book be to the Books of the Damned series? Are the Eldest going to get a similar treatment to the demigods of those other books? Any new Eldest?

It is very similar to the Books of the Damned and Chronicle of the Righteous. There are no new Eldest, but they each get a full write-up with obediences and such.

Das Bier wrote:
Hey LIz, is there anything here with how the fey interact with the kami and other nature spirits of the East?

There is not. The kami, while fey-like, are native outsiders and are not tied to the First World, but rather the natural places of the Material Plane. This book is really an exploration of the First World itself rather than an expansion on fey lore within Golarion.

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Morgana wrote:

Not something I was expecting to see on the BBC. You tell them ladies.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36345666

Somehow, I was expecting them to have British accents in the clip.

Jessica has worked so hard to hide her Russian accent, it would probably be really hard for her to pick up a British one on top of all the rest.

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Elf Wizard wrote:
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Lanowar wrote:
Could someone expand on the Investigator Talents?

Silencing Strike: Studied strike target unable to speak for 1 (on save) to 5 rounds.

Oh wow, that in particular seems great. Works well for an assassin investigator and as an anti-spellcaster option.
I'm not happy.

Quiet, you!

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I was thinking about it. I can't sell the material, obviously, but I could release it on my blog for other people to use.

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