I'm running the game on Eberron, so there were some changes...
Faction: Free Captains (from the Lhaazar Principalities)
Rival: The Aurum (replacement for the Aspis Consortium)
Other Factions: They have good relations with the Wayfinder Foundation as they kinda like Gelik; a friendly rivality with the Red Mantis; and haven't really interacted with the Stormreach Government, but they are good friends with Jask.
Hi, guys. In my 'Eberron Evil-Aligned Characters Campaign', one of my players has decided to become a Lich as soon as he meets the pre-requisites. To balance the game, I've decided to give the rest of the players some new powers, all created by me for this particular plot. I also thought to share them here as soon as I finish working on them, to see if someone finds it interesting or wants to throw some feedback...
For starters, I have the powers I'm giving the AntiPaladin of the Dark Six...
THE BLESSINGS OF THE DARK SIX
I'm planning to run this as an online game, and I have two players. As they have shown interest in playing a Druid and a Summoner; I thought that perhaps a combination of those two classes, with summons + eidolon + animal companion, plus letting them make the PCs with point buy 25 could settle the matter...
What do you think? Could this work? Or would it still be overpowering for them?
Fubbles the Baby Cow wrote:
Running a horror-themed AP is tricky task in a F2F campaign.
Yes, that's what I was afraid about. So, after much consideration, I've decided to go a different way...
For classical simplicity? Rise of the Runelords.
You, sir, are right. I had forgotten about Anniversary Edition, which uses PF rules. I'll get a copy of this one instead.
Thanks a lot for all the responses!
Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
There was a discussion about it being not a greatsword (as shown in that one picture) but since my PC uses a greatsword, I want to stick with that.
Excuse me... what is this picture you are referring? I ask because I was wondering if there is any picture of Savith anywhere, and this caught my eye...
I don't understand what that field is. Under each dropdown sits next level's dropdown, and I cannot click the dropdown for anythoing else than openning it.
I've used excel-based creators ever since I started playing D&D, and this one has to be the best I've ever seen. I have only one issue: having to select each level manually is very tedious, particularly as it really chugs every time you select a new level. If somehow it could be changed so that you could select the first level of a class and then drag the cell down to the level you want (something that could be done in several 3.5 character creators), that would be AWESOME.
That would be my only suggestion to this great tool you have created.
Thanks a lot!
On another note, my PCs were a bit cool towards the whole Discovery Points too at first, usually just leaving the camp to mop a few of those up instead of assisting with Mysteries. Then I came right out and told them metagame-wise that there are PA bonuses and xp story awards for claiming the city first.
I'll probably do just that.
I kind of think it would be funny if the pc's were boasting to the natives about the "dragon" they killed because they thought the natives were just that dumb and about the point the kongomato flies over.
That sounds cool. I may steal that idea...
So, GMs: while running this module, were you constantly updating the players on how the Victory Points race was going (i.e.: which Faction was on the lead), or did you keep that information to yourselves?
I ask this because my players don't really care about the Discoveries, they are just invading one district at the time. First they gained control over the Government District and yesterday they finished the Military District (at the same time slowing down the "Aspis Consortium"). I am keeping track of their camp's Exploration checks and Victory Points, but I'm not sure if I should encourage them to start discovering more and fighting a bit less (by showing them a Victory Points Chart at the end of each session) or if I should just let them keep at it.
Also, I think the whole Dragon Rumor on the Mercantile District turning out to be a Bat is utter and total crap. Paizo's APs, while I love them, are always really low on dragons, which I think sucks (even more if you consider the original name of the game); and this would be a real let down for my players. I'm SO putting a Dragon running that District.
So far on my campaign, most encounters have been on the outside, so I just use the place as it appears on the city map and add a bit of detail. My PCs have cleared the Government District and are halfway through the Military; and there has been only one fight on the inside of a building so far (Akarundo). We play with a battlemat that can be drawn, so the lack of maps hasn't really been an issue for us.
My only problem with this book are the CRs. My group has a Cleric, a Druid, a Ranger, a Fighter and a Summoner. The Eidolon has been nerfed and still is incredibly broken. Added to the high AC and damage of the Fighter (Crane Style) and the damage output of the Ranger (Bow FS), I'm really struggling with making the encounters challenging. So far, they haven't had one since the Demon on book 2. They defeated Akarundo and the Half-fiend Dire Ape extremely easily.
I really have to kill that Summoner -.-
Mark Knights wrote:
I think this is because they used the set values (12-10-8) and because PCs have the added extra of being able to put NPCs working on the scores to raise the values.
I do, but there's a Summoner in the party, so it's probably that.
Between RtT and CoSS, I put them against a CR 10, a Jungle Giant. The Eidolon killed him in one round. ONE.
Today we start playing CoSS, and I'm actually raising all the CRs because of my experiences with RtR.
I believe most of the problem lays in the DMs and players. After reading the reasons for all the 'bad rep', and after playing for a long time D&D and other very different games, I think the issue arises from one really bad methodology that tends to occur almost exclusively on D&D tables.
The DM and the player don't discuss the theme of the adventure to be played before said adventure starts.
Most tables, in my experience and from what I seem to read here, just let the players create any character they feel like without considering what the adventure is about.
I talked with my player before running SS, and explained that it was an adventure about exploration and discovery. We never had a motivation problem.
I do not believe the AP to be perfect, obviously (I modified RtR quite a lot), but it seems to me that most of the problems people had with it would have never had appear if the DM had just sat down with the players and explained the theme and feel correctly in the very beginning.
So, a player of my Serpent Skull's Campaign wants to take this feat tree. He plans to use it with weapons, but it seems to me that it's meant to be used only with Unarmed strikes. It's not specifically stated, but it is mentioned in the flavour text, and it does require Improved Unarmed Strike. What do you think?
Hi. Next month I will be returning back home for a month or so, and my old group wants to play PF. I'm DMing Serpent Skull to another group, and I really like Paizo's APs. Obviously, we won't have time to run an entire AP, but I was wondering if any AP has a good book to run separately from the entire AP, as an adventure on its own (kinda like the first book of SS). What would you recommend me?
It cannot be from Kingmaker, as I will be a player of that AP soon.
Hi! Quick question: reading the Spirit Dancers section, the bonus they give for a +5 "once per adventure", means 'once per module' or 'once per session'?. I supposed it was the first one, but it seems to be a very small bonus considering once per module means only 5 times (at best) during the whole AP. 'Once per session' feels excessive, though, so I was considering making it about 3/per module. What do you think?
My two cents:
I'm currently running Racing To Ruin.
SfSS went great with my group, and is definitively the best adventure I've run in my 5 years as a DM.
RtR has been fun for now, but it is quite heavy on Railroading.
Personally, I think is the DM's task to translate the feel of exploration and adventure the AP needs to succeed.
Also, I am running the AP on Eberron, which I feel it really adds a lot. I'm not saying by this that Golarion is not a good setting; just that I feel this particular AP is AWESOME for Eberron.
I'm sure this is covered either in the adventure or somewhere earlier in this thread, but do the NPCs adventure/explore with the PCs? I can't imagine that they would. Maybe you'd want 1 or 2, to fill in some of the party strength, if for example, they're missing a cleric. But, are you guys having most/all of the NPCs travel w/ the PCs? Or do they generally hang out at the camp?
I seem to recall this being addressed somewhere in the module, but I could be wrong. For my part, I would let the NPC accompany the PCs if the NPC is at least Friendly and with a Normal or Hopeful morale. My players only took Jask with them once, and decided not to do it again. They adventured without NPCs for the rest of the module, up to the Azlanti temple where I made Gelik offer his assistance as I thought his language selections and bardic knowledge abilities would be of use to the party.
I think there's no right answer to this particular situation.
That said, I would have let the PC join the fight and, probably, save the ranger. I don't like PCs dying without a purpose if I can help it, I feel it's unfair to the player and the story. PCs will always die, of course, but is my job to make each death feel like it was meaningful and epic. A guy being eaten by a monster with no actual plot significance just because he felt the need to explore a temple when the Big Boss had already been killed? Not epic, not meaningful; just lame.
You could say that they should have never split the party, but I can't blame them if they did so after killing the adventure's biggest threat. He's just accomplished a great goal, he should be rewarded, not killed by an unrelated monster just because the adventure says it's there.
I do think, as I've said before, that both solutions would be valid. Each DM has its personal style, I just thought I could share mine, as it appears to be quite different than the majority.
Even though I'm loving this AP, I have to say this: If you haven't liked two of the three modules you've read, probably you should not keep buying it. I think Paizo is making a great job at giving each AP a unique feel and a strong, particular theme. If your group only likes one certain kind of adventures, and a particular AP does not fit them, you should not force it. SS is about exploring: you really can't railroad exploration without ruining it. So, my advice, it's that is only worth to keep buying SS if you, and your players, like it. If not, which appears to be the issue at hand, spend your money in other APs or Modules that you are certain to enjoy. Carrion Crown is coming soon, and sounds awesome.
Thanks for the responses! Stormreach, the city that will be replacing Eleder, is actually similar in size to Kalabuto, and I will even use practically the same statblock. After reading your responses, I've decided to include two small settlements on the way to Tazion: an explorers' enclave (on the place where Kalabuto is) and a small, friendly native's settlement further along the road. Once again, thank you for the responses, they've been very helpful.
My party has established a base camp on the Thrunefang's camp and left to explore the Azlanti temple leaving there all castaways but Gelik. I've decided I'll include the harpy when they return to the camp, having she taken control of the four NPCs and residing on the Lighthouse. I'll use it as a 2nd level sorcerer but no Young template (my party is of five PCs, and they will also have Gelik).
Hey! As you might have read in my other thread, I'm running SS in Eberron. I am about to start Module 2, Racing to Ruin, and I have come to the conclusion that only one major change is needed to convert the adventure: Kalabuto has to go. There is only one city in Xen'drik, Stormreach, and it will occupy the place of Eleder. Yet, as I am not great on seeing the big picture, I felt the the need to ask you people: Will there be any grave consequences in not having Kalabuto in the module? Do you think the absence of the resting and re-equipping themselves on that city will affect the party considerably?
Basically, I want to know if there is any consequences that I'm missing, and what do you think could be a good replacement?
I had thought they could find some small settlement of friendly natives instead, or just one singular, resourceful ally...
I changed the Red Mantis into House Thuranni's Shadow Network. Just change all Mantis humans into elves, and you've got it.
Uh, that would've been great, but I've already "made up" the Mantis as a sub-order inside the Emerald Claw (as I wanted to keep using Sasha's pic).
I am currently starting to work on "Racing to Ruin".
As for Eleder, the obvious choice seems Stormreach.
What factions did you use? I was thinking of:
Aspis Consortium > The Aurum
What do you think?
Why did a 2nd level bard try to toe-to-toe that monster?
He did not. The party tried to hold their own on V25 instead of running to attack the ghouls on V27. The party's tank and cleric got both paralyzed on the first round for 4 rounds each. When Mother arrived, she tried for two rounds to attack the secondary fighter but could not hit his massive AC (he was fighting at full defense). So by the third round, she got tired and made a 5-foot step to engage what she considered the "leader" of the party -- the bard. She made a full atack, connected all attacks (one a critical) and the bard was gone.
As stated in the post however its not an official errata. And Paizo is painfully slow on issuing errata and FAQs so I would not count on seeing one in the near future.
Thanks for the quick response. Even if it's not an official errata, Word of Godis enough to validate my case against the players.
So, a player in a game I'm running keeps spending his turns using Demoralize on opponents. As he reads it, the first round he Shakens the opponent, and targets him again the second round to advance the Shaken condition to Frightened. I hate it, as it's as anticlimatic as it gets. Is this a legal thing to do, by RAW? Or, as I think it should be, a PC can only impose the Shaken condition and not improve it no matter how many times he targets the enemy?
I think that the Oriental flavor fits fine as a hobgoblin in Eberron, so Ishirou became Shiruu, and maintained his backstory.
I replaced with a Changeling posing as a Human, keeping the backstory.
I'm also pretty sure I will replace the Kenku with a Warforged with a new backstory. But my players have not run into him yet, and for the road they are taking I'm quite certain they will not encounter him.