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My issue with the fiction was...each chapter of the multi-volume stories was so short that I seldom could ever remember and keep track of the characters in the wait for the next volume (especially if volumes were delayed as sometimes happened.

So I am actually kind of glad that we are losing the fiction for more backmatter, since it's more material I am likely to read. As long as designing those extra pages are not too much extra work for the folks developing stuff!


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huh...pleasantly surprised, although I would guess this might be because the late fall release that the bestiary normally slots into is going to the Starfinder monster book (although if it is I hope they go with field guide or some other name)

It's pushed early, but if bestiaries are every other year, than 2017 was kind of the "scheduled" year for the next hardcover book.

An Villain Codex, NPC Codex, and Bestiary 6 all in a row is a bit unusual, but I guess this is to free up rules design for Starfinder?

Also please...MORE SAKHILS. Definitely one of my new favorite outsider groups, and would love to see more.


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based on two separate recommendations in a couple of days, last week I FINALLY watched the horror film Pontypool

Spoilerific Monster Idea:

for those who haven't seen the movie, Pontypool is sort of a zombie movie, but one in which the vector of infection isn't a disease, but rather the English language. Symptons include steady loss of language skills, madness, and eventual resulting in a mindless being driven to attack and kill.

It's a really cool concept that I don't think any existing monster (especially the zombie templates) really model.

I would probably do it either as something that converts a person into an outsider or undead. Give it a sonic attack; anyone that takes damage is inflicted with the disease, and take wisdom damage anytime a player communicates with certain words. Take enough wisdom damage and you die and become a new infected.

Obviously it would need other tweaks, including some sort of blindsense, maybe an ability to mimic spells and throw them back at random individuals, etc.


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If Starfinder is just Pathfinder in Space, why isn't it just another Pathfinder RPG book? Ultimate Space. Ultimate Worlds. Ultimate Planes.

Because the existing system is rather clunky in emulating Space Fantasy tropes. Even if you keep the basic game, you need to significantly modify skills, combat, equipment, and magic to get something that feels like a better fit than Pathfinder. Plus provide robust systems for game elements like space ship combat. At that point it's a new system really.


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As someone who is pretty lenient on race selection (my runelord game's party included a kobold, a kitsune, and a Nagaji), I would not allow hobgoblins pcs in Ironfang. It just stretches my credibility a bit too far that a Hobgoblin wouldn't be treated with extreme suspicion if not outright hostility

As for Drow in Second Darkness, it has nothing to do with Drizzt. The whole AP is about the revelation that Drow exist and major plot elements involve the elves trying to cover that information up. That sort of plot...doesn't work really well if a Drow is in the party.


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1. Strange Aeons

2. Ironfang Invasion

3. Ruins of Azlant

4. Starfinder AP ?

1. Strange Aeons: #1 for me and the AP I have most anticipated. Love mythos fiction, love horror in general, and this AP seems to combine some really nifty ideas (starting off as a patient in an asylum) with some cool expansion beyond the Inner Sea (Dreamlands, Parchlands, Carcosa). Plus plenty of special non-ogl Chaosium monsters

2. Ironfang Invasion: Tied for #2 with Ruins of Azlant. Hobgoblins are some of my favorite "monster" races, as their combination of intelligence, organization, power, and sanity gives them a threat potential not really present in most of the other traditional monster races. So an AP that fleshes them out is pretty cool.

3. Ruins of Azlant: See above for ranking. Really interested in this in the sense that it will flesh out another new region of Golarion (really hoping for an Azlant CS book from this), hopefully provide a lot more info on the Aboleth, and looks to be trying some innovative stuff.

4. Uhh? I will almost certainly buy the hardcover, but as yet there is zero info on what the first AP is even about (Science fantasy is kind of...broad topic), so I have no idea if I will subscribe or not. It's also going to be dependent on my financial situation. Two AP subscriptions adds up fast

To give some context, I will most likely keep my Pathfinder subscription for the next three APs. I however did cancel it for Mummy's Mask (seems to have too much dungeon diving), Giantslayer (theme just didn't grab me at all), and Hell's Vengeance (Not really fan of AP's with the default assumption everyone is evil...just not interested in delving into villainy and seeing what players can come up with as evil bastards).


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Davor Firetusk wrote:
One big benefit going back to 2E was that a large amount of optional rules were setting specific. Which I think made it more natural for people to ignore extra mechanics, and options that didn't appeal to them. Thus far Pathfinder has attempted to integrate many different genre options into 1 setting. There is a trade-off there, namely it gives you there larger potential market for selling new rules books but makes for potentially larger and larger barriers for new players.

Well with Starfinder I think we are seeing at least the testing of waters on new setting specific rules. Since it's sounds like it will be pretty compatible with Pathfinder, but will have a lot changes to mechanics for better emulation of science fiction versus epic fantasy.


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Marco Massoudi wrote:

We have other nations were it would make sense to put them together into one book (because it would be hard to fill 64 pages with one of them alone or because they are linked thematically):

"Lands of Frost": Realm of the Mammoth Lords & Crown of the World (from Jade Regent Book 3)

-"Lands of Mists and Veils": Mendev & Brevoy

-"Lands of Legacy": Lastwall & Razmiran

-"Lands of Commerce": Druma & Isger

-"Lands of Sands": Rahadoum & Thuvia

-"Lands of Hurricane": Illizmagorti & Sodden Lands

-"Lands of Magic": Nex & Geb (with the Mana Wastes in between)

Varisia, Kyonin, the Five King´s Mountains and Taldor are probably big/interesting enough to get their own books.

Eh...I get why doing these two nations together makes sense (since from the beginning there big deal was fighting each other), but don't want to see this really pop up too often. Most of those nations have very different themes that do not jell at all together well.


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Today's bit of (unintentional) Trump humor:

"Doubling down on appeals to black voters that have become a mainstay of his stump speech this week, Donald Trump made a bold prediction about his ability to attract the support of the African-American community if he gets the chance to run for reelection in 2020.

"At the end of four years, I guarantee you I will get over 95 percent of the African-American vote. I promise you," Trump said to a largely white audience Dimondale, Mich., a town where in 2010 just 9 of the town's 1,234 residents were black, according to census data."


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CNN article on a Pew Research Center poll from yesterday afternoon.

The current electoral map from real clear politics paints an interesting picture of the next election

By my count, if Hillary is only able to win blue states that are solid or lean blue, she gets 252 electoral votes. At that point, she only needs one or two toss up states to win (Ohio alone would get her to 270).

In contrast, Trump has about 137 electoral votes locked down by the same measure. Not only does he need to keep those, but to win he also has to win EVERY SINGLE CURRENT TOSS UP STATE and steal a few blue states from Hillary.

It does sort of really hammer home the demographic problems Republicans are facing. They maintain significant influence over a good chunk of the country, but its mostly less populated rural areas with few electoral votes. with shifting demographics associated with change in population, without rebranding, Republicans are soon going to be incapable of winning the presidency.


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You'll note that there's one thing that all 11 of the authors I mentioned above share—they're mostly known as horror writers or DARK fantasy writers. The two exceptions would be George R. R. Martin (whose Game of Thrones stories contain more than enough to quantify them as horror, and who has also written plenty of horror stories himself) and Dan Simmons (who is a VERY well-rounded genre-hopping author, but who got his start doing horror).

I generally am not as interested in other genres, and as a result, authors who don't write dark stuff or horror tend not to interest me. Ursula K. Le Guin's stories aren't dark and creepy enough for me, and her writing style isn't interesting enough for me to make an exception as a result.

Speaking of female horror authors, have you read much from Gemma Files? I have only read her short fiction, which seems so far that it would be up your alley.

Caitlin R. Kiernan is kind of a hero of mind. Did you know that her professional background is in Paleontology, and she actually has formally described a new species of Mosasaur? I kind of wish she was still active in the field since it would be totally cool to bump into her at an Vert paleontology meeting.


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It's the inevitable end product of the Republican party's tactics for the past multiple decades, furthered along by the development of internet and a news channel that can enforce that skewed image of reality they have.

It is a "break" from anything that has come before however. Trump's rhetoric is far more inflammatory and problematic than any past nominee since I have been old enough to pay attention. The big question is whether this is an anomaly, a wake up call, or the new normal for the Republican Party.


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NPR has a bit more detailed background behind the situation that Trump just stepped in with the "vote monitors". Long Story short is he could be causing some major issues for the RNC on legal grounds, as legally this may violate a consent ruling in effect on the party from 1982 (when they tried something similar in New Jersey).

Trump calls to stake out polling places


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Trump may be the first presidential nominee to leave the country in a mess after the election, without actually being elected.


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NO WAY this can go wrong:

Trump solicits election observers after warning of vote rigging


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I'm liking the classes so far. Now to figure out which one I could use to make a Biologist/Physician. The concept I have is very support oriented and hopefully it's doable! :)
Same. I imagine it's an escort archetype.

I assume you mean envoy? "Escort" would probably be a very different class :)


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I'm kind of leery for this one. The last travel all around AP volume was in Serpent's Skull and I thought it was weak. Might have to wait for the review of this one. "Ecologies of" also turns me off. I haven't read an inspiring one yet.

Reign of Winter was more recent and was a pretty awesome travel AP


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I am worried about where the rage of Trump's supporters is going to go when he loses, though.
Hopefully they'll just occupy landfills and bird sanctuaries.

I know this was a joke, but as a birder and environmentalist the Malheur Refuge occupation is not something I want repeated. The Bundy led occupiers damaged Native American graves, prevented a lot of important management work (invasive carp control, dike management)at one of the most significant migration stopping points on the Pacific Flyway, threatened the families of refuge personnel (causing them to flee the area) and cost taxpayers millions.


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A Galt AP which also incorporates a heavy Daemon presence. Devils and Demons have had a turn...it's about time Daemon's got some love.


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Andoran or Hermea. Maybe Absalom. I mean every place kind of sucks but those seem the most stable and least vulnerable to some sort of horrible terror or fate.


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For all we know, that is the Gencon "Pathfinder" hardcover.
Seems to me JJ said that their intention was not to have "Starfinder" adversely impact the Pathfinder line.

Yeah but I am hard-pressed to imagine a way they could pull off something like an "Ultimate/Adventures" line rule hardcover AND a Starfinder rules system. That's a lot of crunch to go through, especially with how much playtesting and design work that Starfinder will need.

I would also guess that is why the Encounter Codex is the next book after the Villain Codex. Codexes/Bestiaries I don't require as much work by the rules team as more crunch heavy books.


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FYI Starfinder Bestiary is confirmed for the fall. Will have a different layout and emphasis apparently than the Pathfinder RPG, with setting info built in and each creature getting a 2 page layout. Also a lot more race support including a lot more non-humanoid races.


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Also from Knowdirection:

The monster (alien) book will have Two Page spreads for each entry to give room for more setting info and rules to play them if possible, and an urge to make most possible.

Not just a book on things to kill, but also things to be.

Weird aliens, not just humanoid as options. Floating tentacle sphere etc...

No clerics, they are taking a step back, not as easy to contact them.

They want to step back from required Magic Items / equipment. Magic on a whole is lessened.


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Knowdirection's facebook page seems to have a bit more clear summaries:

Perram at the Starfinder Panel, here is what's been talked about so far: Classes Announced!

1) Starfinder will launch at Gen Con 2017 with the first AP

2) shortly after a Starfinder monster book will be released.

3) The Starfinder Core rulebook will not be limited to the design of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook. They've learned lessons on better ways to present and teach RPGs since the CRB's release.

4) Starfinder Core Rulebook will also include the setting information. Not separated from the RPG line like Pathfinder.

5) Faster Than Light Travel has only been recently released. Other solar systems are available now, meant to be a land rush.

6) The assumption is that the players are part of a crew of a Starship, space combat an important part. Every player has an important part. Very Star Trek inspired with sprinkles of Firefly.

7) Classes! Announced!
Soldier - Fighter++, Heavy weapons, ranged or melee, focus on a weapon specialist.

Operative - Specialize on a subterfuge role, spy, snipper, infiltration, etc, heavy skill focus, master of skills.

Envoy - Helps everyone else out. Han Solo & Princess Leya. Space Bard, or Spaceship Captain, etc...

Mechanic - Fixes things! Has a robot companion or AI Companion.

Mystic - Similar to the Oracle. Channels the magical energy of the universe. Not only from gods. Psycho, head exploder, the force etc...

Technomancer - combines magic and technology. Magic is thought if like programming code. Figure out the laws of the universe, bend and break them.

Solarian - Balance of the universe between Energy and Entropy. Embraces two sets of powers for each, using them effects the power of the other. Light and Heat, vs Gravity. Could make a Jedi with this class, mystical melee. Has a mote of stellar energy that can be used to form energy weapons or armor.


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"#Starfinder goal is to have play test/demo of Starfinder, pregen PFS scenario at #GenCon2017 No word on SF Org Play at this time"

So not sure if I understand this: Does this mean the game is being pushed back for final release (with an open playtest around next year gencon? Or is it being released next gencon?


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I hope we get a CS book on Azlant.

This also expands Golarion outside the Inner Sea region, which is something I will always approve of.


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The book in general really doesn't have a lot of support for straight martial classes, when compared to other classes. I would guess that the devs probably think straight martials are less appropriate for straight up horror type campaigns.
Which is funny because most horror fiction heroes are rogues or something similar. :/

most main characters in horror novels/books are commoners and experts :)


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I think more it was meant totally literally--I just don't think the folks who came up with the idea had thought out what that really meant for their setting when they said it or how weird it would make things.

I mean really it's one way or the other. Either all that stuff is out there or it isn't. You can't really soft shoe something like that.

You say "the planet Vulcan is out there somewhere" and "ALL campaign settings...for all RPGs...all books and movies too" and I think what you mean is pretty much that. Now whether that spirals off into crazy town or not...well it's pretty much going to spiral off into crazy town.

I believe the original quote derives from an "Ask James Jacob Questions" thread reply. It's not meant to be take as gospel and it's not a response that the whole development team sat down and talked about.

Do you like Star Wars and want a crossover with Golarion. Then all the Star Wars planets and such are out there. Do you prefer Star Trek? Okay the Federation is out there.

People are just way way overthinking this.


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I am hoping lots of cool planar lore and GM stuff. I prefer CS materials to not be stealth player companions.


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Lord Snow wrote:
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Your reading habits put me to shame :P

I am very boring. :)

Also I've actually struggled a bit to settle into a comfortable reading routine for non-fiction. For a while I was just doing a two hour session once a week. I'd drive my mother to her knitting group and read while she socialized. Before that I tried to do 100 pages a day, but that was overambitious. Neither one makes for fast progress when it comes to actually doing the thing. My present milestone is a chapter a day, by which measure I'm currently three days ahead.

I know there are academics who can work through one book in the morning and another in the afternoon. They are robots.

A couple times in my life I read through 300+ pages in the same day. In all cases this was done as a marathon, segregated alone in my room and making intimidating growling noises at anyone approaching the area (or so they tell me). Needless to say, these are all-day affairs.

So, you can probably feel pretty amazing about reading hundreds of pages a week, at least by mortal standards.

That sounds like my high school and undergrad life. Sadly my daily reading is almost always limited to a half hour here and there on trains or waiting for trains. And that's assuming I am not reading for work or research.


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Kasatha don't really scratch the insectoid alien niche. They have four arms but don't really have any other insectoid traits, like the Thri Keen


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and individual critic can be wrong but I find that consensus sites like Rotten Tomatoes are usually a good overall judge. Generally stuff that is 70% and up I will probably like and stuff that is minus 30% and below I will think suck

I mean compare and contrast the movies that did well and were mostly like by people here. Deadpool and Civil War both did very well with fresh ratings on Rottentomatoes and seem to have been liked by a lot of Paizo folks, while F4 and B vs. S were universally panned and don't seem to have a whole lot of online fans here (some yes, at least for the latter...but the B vs S. thread isn't exactly a rousing chorus of awesome).


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For what it is worth, Horror Adventures has a small number of monsters/monster templates. Of interest in this thread is a new Slenderman expy as well as a slasher template, which were both things requested in the past.


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Meanwhile, Trump says he's afraid the election is about to be rigged.

Given the way things have gone so far... I can understand mistrust in the system, but I can't help but wonder if it's an attempt to:

A) Increase the "Us vs Them" mentality by implying that others are dishonest and trying to erase the value of their votes (while ignoring all of his own lies), and
B) Set the stage for causing a lot of trouble if he actually does lose, by getting his very fanatical followers to believe that it was clearly a rigged loss.

Trump's standard modus operandi is to blame everything that can/will go wrong on someone else. It's possible he is simply laying the groundwork for an excuse on him not winning in the next election, or maybe even laying the groundwork for dropping out of the race before election day. Hell apparently he spent a good chunk of that event complaining that the fire marshall had it out for him and denied him more seats at his event (rather than you know...picking and double-checking the venue beforehand to ensure it was large enough)

At least one article I read (which I admittedly thought had a lot of wishful thinking behind it) speculated that losing the election is too big a risk to Trump's brand of "success", and he would find someway to leave the field if a loss seemed likely.

I frankly doubt he cares enough about his potential voters or the country to really get them to cause trouble (although that may happen by accident). However I am sure he has no shortage of future profit producing enterprises that could be helped by a loyal and angry base easily told to do different things to spite democrats


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There has been a lot of really weird stuff that came out of the filming of Suicide Squad. I have a feeling a few years from now the story behind the creation of the new DCU is going to make an AMAZING documentary.


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I actually like the newer classes more than the originals. They are better designed and often more flavorful, largely because they had less to worry about straying from the original classes design and ticking people off in the 3.5 transition. I also think the developers have just improved their ability to create new classes; Most of the new classes are pretty decently balanced, in contrast to the Core Rulebook which includes almost all of the classes that are most frequently complained about.


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This would have been a great book for alternate racial traits(and racial feats) for actual horror themed races like Dhampir, Changling, Tiefling, Deep One Hybrid, Skinwalker, etc..

Race-specific abilities needlessly narrow possible builds as well as the potential audience for such a book. And this is even far worse for non-Core races

At one point the selling potential must be taken into account

Well the thing is they did have race options, and they took up I think only two pages? But I would rather have racial options that "fit" the topic (horror) than generic racial options, which is what a lot of them felt like.


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Anyone want to put bets down on what new corruptions we are getting?

Ones I would like to see would be:

Fungal: there are a decent number of monsters in Pathfinder (and in horror fiction in general) that slowly convert there hosts into fungal monsters/clones/etc. Seems like an obvious fit and none of the existing corruptions really work for the concept.

Wendigo: Again...people slowly turning into Windigos is a horror staple.

Reptoid/Serpentfolk-related: Also no shortage of more reptilian changes, either a result of curses, infected bites, or some distant taint in the bloodline.

Those would be the ones I would most want to see. Less exciting for me but likely would be a demon related corruption, since devils get their own unique corruption which is pretty specifically tailored to that group of fiends. So something that slowly changes you into a monstrous demon doesn't seem too unlikely.

Any other obvious possibilities out there?


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still very very slowly going through this book.

For me so far the corruptions really are the stand out element of the book, really allowing a lot more nuanced and exciting opportunities for characters transitioning to some new horrific form.

Almost all of them result in unplayable NPC is they have maxed out in corruptions (and a few give even worst fates: victims of the Hive corruptions cocoon up and devolve into a swarm of Hive larvae). My favorite however would be the Possessed corruption, which doesn't have a stated alignment slant. So you could totally have some evil douchebag get this corruption and have the spirit of some moral crusader take ahold, and force him to do nice things. The final stage of corruption has the spirit taking permanent control with the original spirit now the possessing corruption. So you could totally do some really fun back and forth, as the original player gets to stage three and the spirit takes control...only for the spirit to get to stage three and the original player takes control! I find this totally hilarious! This would probably be the one Corruption I would waive the "becomes an NPC rule" for all the roleplaying hijinks.

Also, on an unrelated note, the page or two of racial traits had some nice options, but a lot of them didn't feel really like things unique for this book. Elves, Humans, and Halflings got some good horror reflavoring, but dwarves and gnomes felt a bit generic. The "half"-races got a trait or two but were also generic. Feels like this would have been a bit better if those 4 races had maybe been swapped for non core races like goblins or kitsune or other critters with a more obvious horror fit.


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I just finished Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond.

Excellent book that gets into the nitty gritty details of why some civilizations advance technologically faster than others, laying the route causes for these differences on the vagaries of geography: areas with easy to domesticate plants and animals and have suitable climates are more likely to have people settle down and start tending food crops, which in turn results in populations increases, and development of specialized artisan and rulership classes, which allows further innovations. Furthermore, the development of large populations and close contact with domesticated animals favored the evolution of new deadly diseases, which people in the old world evolved resistance to. Finally, orientation of geographical features can allow or inhibit the spread of technology and agriculture; Sahel adapted crops fair poorly for instance in equatorial Africa, so never reached South Africa where they would have been useful crops. Similar problems in geography prevented Andean crops and llamas from making it to Mexico, and lengthened the progress of Mexican crops to fertile areas of Eastern North America. The book provides a good summary of human dispersal and walks through each continent explaining the specific circumstances that led one civilization to fare poorly when contacted by another.

Guns, Germs, and Steel was an interesting read, but I feel like dipping into some fiction before another nonfiction book. So I just started The Jack Vance Treasury, an anthology of the author's more prominent works. Only on the first story so far (The Dragonmasters), and already enjoying it.


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Why are there elephants, and why are they oversized?

Well they need to give Charlie Hunnam some reason to jump into a giant robot in this movie...


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I've only skimmed this briefly, but so far loving it.

I always check out the monsters first, and was pleased that most of the stuff I wanted for a "slasher" monster template are in the implacable stalker template. Even a short range Teleport!

I will be curious how the book is received. More so than Occult Adventures, this is very much a GM friendly book. Quite a bit of the "player" content is designed for use with evil NPCs and may not see use in a normal campaign. I'm fine with it but I can see it rubbing some folks the wrong way

Someone just asked about monsters: It's a short section but includes:

Dread/Cursed Lord (template): Remember Ravenloft and the lords of the various domains? Yeah that is a good description of what the Dread Lord is.

Hive Larvae Swarm, Hive Queen, and Hive Warrior. Was the Akata too subtle an expy of the xenomorph for you? Well here ya go: a Xenomorph proxy that is probably as close as they can get to including a Xenomorph without lawsuits

Implacable Stalker (template): It's a slasher template that does a superb job of letting you create Jason, Michael, and the billion other slasher movie icons

Kyton Apostle (template): for people who converted to team Kyton after enough torture

Tromp L'oieL (Template) Viggo the Carpathian; e.g. a painting figure that comes to life

Unknown (Template): Fey template for the Slender Man pretty much; fey that reproduce by feeding and eroding the mental energies of their victims, turning the person into a new Unknown.

Waxwork (Template): construct made of wax

Besides these major templates, there are also simple templates for all the corruptions, allowing you to quickly produce vampiric and similar variations for a host of monsters, and 3 variant templates: The familial Lich that has been mentioned a few times, and the Bestial and Moonbound Werewolves, which allow you to produce werewolves that better emulate other media depictions.


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To be fair a lot of the problems with the new Trek movies are inherent to the various Trek series, old and new. But the TV show had the benefit of 20-24 hours of Trek a season, which meant that the really stupid/bad episodes were counteracted by a lot of really good ones. The movies, which honestly get a far larger budget and far more time to develop scripts and plots, as well as often access to pretty good actors, shouldn't be on par with really bad Star Trek episodes (which is what I think Into Darkness was at least).


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I'm pretty sure that Trump's only interest in this position is the ability to give regular speeches and appearances that are guaranteed to get media coverage and adoration from a certain segment of the public, and the ability to add the "former president" label to his existing brand. If he can use that position to punish a few critics or remove some business obstacles all the better.

Pence I suspect would be left with the day to day policy, which is stomach curdling in so so many ways.


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1. Speaking of movies, did you hear that the Adam Wingard ("Your Next, etc.) movie "The Woods" was announced at comic con with a new name, "The Blair Witch"?

2. Does this make you more excited or less? I love that director and was excited, but admittedly the idea of an original movie from him is somewhat more appealing than a sequel to a franchise that hasn't had a new entry in quite awhile.

3. Do you have a current favorite "active" director of movies (horror or otherwise), a director that automatically makes you pay attention to their next project?


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You don't even need to watch this movie to actually see the movie. Watch the trailers and you will see the entire movie laid out in front of you. They screwed up big there. Hey when was the last time that Sony made a good movie? I honestly can not remember, and I mean good as in it was quality, stands up to people actually paying attention to the movie rather than laughing at the shiny keys dangling in their face, and is rewatchable multiple times. Ghostbusters was a great film. Everything fit their narrative and you could tell they actually cared when they made this. The jokes were actually funny and the normal people actually acted like people. Plus, Officer Carl Winslow.

As someone who actually saw the movie, I couldn't disagree more. And as someone who recently watched the first movie, I actually find that just as many of the jokes in the original landed as the ones in this movie. Nostalgia can really help a movie.

I think the big failing of that there really is no market for a big budget blockbuster comedy. After all can you name a recent example? Other than Pixels, which I think was also a flop?

Sony should have reigned in the budget on this (a lot of the climax could have been trimmed down quite a bit without hurting the movie, and some more practical effects would have probably improved it in fact.


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Trailer

on one hand it is definitely fantastic. On the other hand...did we need a "streetsmart" Arthur? Is that the only interpretation Guy Ritchie can provide for characters from literature?

I am incredibly confused why the Camelot mythos is so damn hard to adapt for movies. The characters are well known to audiences, there is an infinite amount of material to work from, it has iconic villains and dramatic twists, and plenty of potential for awesome battles. And it's large enough that you could easily produce multiple trilogies off the material. Yet either people chuck out most of the story to produce a streamline narrative that is name only, or they go a hyper-realistic route and remove all the magic.

On another note, at least Littlefinger plays a character named "Goosefat Bill".


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Fetchlings are Azlanti that fled to the Shadow plane; Darkfolk just went underground

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