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Is this that letter from Taagrick that Anong Arunak is keeping secret? The one that apologizes to the orcs and would split the Dwarven population were it ever to become public?

Beautiful! It's great to see the storylines of the Iconics advance through a natural progression!

I'm surprised that Kyra and Merisiel didn't dress up for the occasion?

So glad that we’re finally getting some catfolk PC miniatures beyond the catfolk rogue that came out a long time ago. I hope to see a bunch more in the future!

Will we get treasure tables in this book?

Any information on Arshea? Domains, alignments, that sort of thing?

I hope they come out with an alternative to having a Familiar, for those of us who don’t want an animal companion. Anyone else feel the same?

I hope this means we get some more Lizardfolk miniatures in various class roles for upcoming Pathfinder Battles sets. The same goes for the Catfolk.

I hope to see some Catfolk and Lizardfolk represented with class levels in future sets. Like a Lion Catfolk barbarian or a panther catfolk monk or a Lizardfolk fighter or Sorceress!

Speaking of Nocticula getting along with other goddesses, how well does she get along with Calistria or Arshea?

Is Calistria more of a "sex goddess" than Nocticula now or are the two goddesses about the same? Surprisingly, Nocticula doesn't have charm or lust in her portfolio anymore...

A second Empyreal Lord question: how would Golarion society view Empyreal worship compared to actual dieties such as Sarenrae and Iomedae? Angel worship didn't seem very popular with only 30 worshippers in large cities and small shrines, as opposed to large temples and such. Is it a thing like why worship the angel Gabriel when you could worship God himself? (This is all basically the first question)

Great to see fellow MOTU fans here!

How come Empyreal Lord worship is so secretive and not so widespread so people have to join Mystery Cults? I can see the Demon Lords, but you'd think worshipping Angel Lords would be a good thing...

We need some Catfolk and Lizardfolk! I'm glad to see some Ratfolk though.

MGX wrote:

Cthulhudrew wrote:

Scholar of Damnation wrote:

That's just being uncreative. Think of all you can do with just words - suggestions, promises, and tempting implications.

The kiss is just the coup de grace.

I second this. No real succubus would deign to go for the kiss until the time was apropos.

(EDIT: This discussion put this scene in my head now- Valeros is discussing his new girlfriend that he's so infatuated with.

Lem: "Did you kiss her yet?"
Valeros: "No, she's very shy. She wants to wait until the time is right."
Lem and Harsk exchange looks. "SUCCUBUS!" they both exclaim in unison.)

In a way, that's the problem.

If passion such as regular kisses is a frequent habit among low level people that a disguised succubus is infiltrating has to keep putting it off because she can't shut off her energy drain power, she might be discovered...

At the very least, the person she's trying to infiltrate would discover that something is wrong, if she keeps making excuses. She couldn't do anything long term, unless she's using suggestion or domination spells to keep the person she's fooling at bay.

But a Succubus should not be 'regular' in the first place. That isn't her strength - caress the wannabe kissers lips with her thumb, her hair, nibble at his / her ear, tease, hint, distract - that is what charisma and skills are for!

And of course, somebody skilled at finding out the demonic temptress should watch for those kind of play - most regulars wouldn't think of it.

I was thinking something such as a succubus disguising herself as a wife or girlfriend. If she is trying to keep him away because she drains energy during passion, the guy is going to know something is off really quick.

Scholar of Damnation wrote:

That's just being uncreative. Think of all you can do with just words - suggestions, promises, and tempting implications.

The kiss is just the coup de grace.

I second this. No real succubus would deign to go for the kiss until the time was apropos.

(EDIT: This discussion put this scene in my head now- Valeros is discussing his new girlfriend that he's so infatuated with.

Lem: "Did you kiss her yet?"
Valeros: "No, she's very shy. She wants to wait until the time is right."
Lem and Harsk exchange looks. "SUCCUBUS!" they both exclaim in unison.)

In a way, that's the problem.

If passion such as regular kisses is a frequent habit among low level people that a disguised succubus is infiltrating has to keep putting it off because she can't shut off her energy drain power, she might be discovered...

At the very least, the person she's trying to infiltrate would discover that something is wrong, if she keeps making excuses. She couldn't do anything long term, unless she's using suggestion or domination spells to keep the person she's fooling at bay.

Does a disguised Succubus have a choice if she wanted to kiss someone WITHOUT using energy drain? For example is if she's disguised as a wife and is kissing her husband and doesn't want to reveal her true nature immediately -- does the husband start suffering as if Rogue from the X-Men movies is kissing him?

So to my mind, a "good succubus" would target tyrants or similar people and tempt them toward the light side. This probably wouldn't take the form of sex, at least not the way a succubus tempts someone, because a tyrant can coerce or threaten women into satisfying his lusts. The good succubus is like the Ghost of Christmas Past, offering the villain what his evil lifestyle can't provide - inner peace, no one trying to assassinate you, relationships based on trust rather than fear, or maybe a second chance with that one girl that he's never been to win over despite all his power. The good succubus tells the tyrant that if he lets go of whatever pain or need drives...

I like this too. The "good succubus" convinces a tyrant to be loved instead of hated or feared or offers insight/guidance on how to change.

Succubi -- demons in general, really -- are agents of a malign will and have a larger purpose they wish to accomplish. Anti-succubi would therefore be agents of a beneficent will and also have a purpose they wish to accomplish.

I just can't figure out what that purpose would be. To bring joy to lonely teenagers across the world in order to help them develop enough self-confidence to establish relationships with other actual mortals? (Maybe.)

That's one purpose.

I would think the good succubus would promote romantic love instead of carnal lust. They might try to bring lonely people together, give confidence and inspiration to a would-be lover, try to reunite or reconcile couples who are fighting, make people realize that they are actually in love with each other, etc.

Okay, so I haven't read all posts, but isn't this matter of how you describe what succubus is?

I mean, I consider succubus to be "demon that kills you with sex", having good equivalent of that is pretty hard since killing, whether with sex or not, doesn't really sound very good-ish.

I think the opposite would happen with a "good succubus". Instead of draining your lifeforce and killing you, sleeping with a good succubus would buff a character, heal their wounds, remove their curses, etc. Like the Sacred Prostitute class from BOEF.

Here's a link to Kobold Press' Dragonkin race.

Or is the OP talking about the Dragonborn race from D&D 5e?

If so, their GM will need to convert it to PFRPG.

Nope, I'm talking about Dragonkin. Like General Malesinder in Reign of Winter. Those Large sized suckers. Converting them over to a PC.

We need some more Catfolk. Like a lion-type barbarian warrior. Or a leopard female fighter.

Maybe a male or female Tiefling as well.

I have this same reaction myself.

How can you bash or slice WATER, FIRE or AIR to pieces? Wouldn't normal, non-magical weapons go through these things? Water, fire or air aren't even solid.

Have you guys thought about making an alternate colored Reiko as a Paizo exclusive? Players might want to have a group of ninja in their adventures as adversaries.