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One thing that was not delt with in Humans of Golarion is characters who are of "mixed" ethnicities - such as a character who is half Chelaxian and Half-Varisian.
Or for that matter "new" ethnicities such as Brevic (which is a mixing of Taldan, Kellid, and Ulfen/Iobarian), but has been stable enough to count as a new "ethnic group."
There is not real guidance on how humans such as these should be handled (rules wise).
James Jacobs wrote: Lord Fyre wrote: James Jacobs wrote: KaeYoss wrote: Okay, who's taking bets on which Runelord(s), if any, will make a personal appearance? :D This isn't an AP about Runelords.
Doesn't mean you shouldn't start betting, I suppose. But ...
It is true that you now have art for Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xanderghul (Karzoug, or course, should already be hosed by this point).
So that might be a hint ...
** spoiler omitted ** Keep in mind that Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xhanderghul are all higher level than Karzoug, and that Karzoug was the highest level dude in the AP he appeared in.
Chances of any of his tougher kin showing up with a stat block in any other AP anytime soon are quite minimal indeed. Okay then ...
But, we know that there were seven Runelords. That still leaves three unaccounted for.
We also know that Zutha is still in play out there ...
Hmmmm ...
James Jacobs wrote: KaeYoss wrote: Okay, who's taking bets on which Runelord(s), if any, will make a personal appearance? :D This isn't an AP about Runelords.
Doesn't mean you shouldn't start betting, I suppose. But ...
It is true that you now have art for Alaznist, Sorshen, and Xanderghul (Karzoug, or course, should already be hosed by this point).
So that might be a hint ...
guille f wrote: The Shattered Star can be related to the Starstone? :D That would be another great idea to go off this title, but might be a little "high level" for the average AP.
Further, I do not forsee them setting an AP in Absolom, mostly because that is the "home base" of the Pathinder Society (Organized Play).
Drejk wrote: Tiny Coffee Golem wrote: Freehold DM wrote: That's metagaming!!! shakes fist
Pretty cool move on V's part, although I'm wondering why he didn't use the crossbow himself or gank someone else's to create a killbox with his new "ally". V has probably never picked up a weapon a day in his life. Besides A) Sneak attack and B) He's busy carrying his new ally around. "I belive he just ceased his struggles against my mental commands to shoot you". That is one of the best quotes from a strip that is already full of awesome quotes!
KaeYoss wrote: Lord Fyre wrote: Rusty Shackleford wrote: Damnit, While i like the idea of another AP set in Varisia, that finishes off most of the plot threads there and explores more territory, my players are going to cry "Why no Numeria AP?? I want to laser guns, and get addicted to Alien Juice! ALIEN JUICE!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Sigh. The real pity is that the title (The Shattered Star) would have worked great for a Numeria centered AP. :( ...ship That is only one possiblity.
Yora wrote: sieylianna wrote: And I can't speak for anyone else, but my reaction to Ultimate Equipment is, who cares? I have Adventurer's Armory and don't see any value in an updated version. In fact, UE is the first Paizo product that I have absolutely no interest in purchasing. Though that's the same way I feel about UM and UC. I have the core rulebook, so who cares? (Admitedly, APC is so good I use some classes from it, but otherwise I never understood "Yeah, more splatbooks!") [since this seems to be hidden in my previous post ... ]
Actually, even the announcement of "The Shattered Star" (which could have been awesome - in Numeria) ended up being kind of a "let down." :(

Gorbacz wrote: TriOmegaZero wrote: hogarth wrote: Maybe there'll be another version of stats for brass knuckles. Gotta catch 'em all! It's funny because it's true. Ultimate Gear should feature two versions of brass knuckles: Bulmahn (APG) and SKR (AA) ;-)
Actually, this issue is pretty much the illustration of the difference between Jason and Sean when it comes to design :)
Yora wrote: sieylianna wrote: And I can't speak for anyone else, but my reaction to Ultimate Equipment is, who cares? I have Adventurer's Armory and don't see any value in an updated version. In fact, UE is the first Paizo product that I have absolutely no interest in purchasing. Though that's the same way I feel about UM and UC. I have the core rulebook, so who cares? (Admitedly, APC is so good I use some classes from it, but otherwise I never understood "Yeah, more splatbooks!") Actually, even the announcement of "The Shattered Star" (which could have been awesome - in Numeria) ended up being kind of a "let down." :(
DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote: "Negotiation is hard with an enemy that keeps trying to set you or himself on fire." - Sun Tzu the lost dialogues. While true, remember "Crazy, not Stupid."
I think that LeadPal may be on to something. If the party is able to negotiate, perhaps the Goblin Chieften might demand that he heroes "clean out the cave" in exchange for passage through his territory.
(Of course, he may try to double-cross them afterwards ... )
No battle plan survives contact with the enemy. -- Colin Powell (himself paraphasing Carl von Clausewitz)
When the heroes go to the Brinestump Marsh in The Brinewall Legacy, they may have a reaction that seems unanticipated by the adventure.
For example, they could have a Goblin PC (one of the babies rescued from Thistletop in Burnt Offerings).
or
(Not knowing that they have already been killed ofstage) the heroes may be reluctant to kill their own Goblin PCs from We Be Goblins.
or even,
The players may even reject the idea of innate "evilness" and be of a more peaceful in nature ... (Ameiko might not be tough ...)
What if the player heroes try to bargan with the Goblins rather then fight them?
Yes, I am running Rise of the Runelords (converting to PathfinderRPG of course).
Yes, I already have the Magic of Thassilon.
(For that matter, I also have Ultimate Magic and Inner Sea Magic).
I was looking for even more that my players are unlikely to have seen already (as they don't really look too much at 3rd Party stuff.). :)
The player characters in my current campaign are about to enter an ancient ruin (The Runeforge) and by the flavor there should be quite a bit of lost magic treasures and lore ...
While the adventure does what supply some, what I am looking for are some additional spells and magic items to flesh them out.
Can people recommend a few (PathfinderRPG Compatable) 3rd Party Products that would help with this theme of "Forgotton Magics from a Lost Civilization"?
Rusty Shackleford wrote: Damnit, While i like the idea of another AP set in Varisia, that finishes off most of the plot threads there and explores more territory, my players are going to cry "Why no Numeria AP?? I want to laser guns, and get addicted to Alien Juice! ALIEN JUICE!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Sigh.
The real pity is that the title (The Shattered Star) would have worked great for a Numeria centered AP. :(
Enlight_Bystand wrote: A note to those speculating, the event tomorrow is titled "2012: The Future of Paizo and the Pathfinder RPG" Does Paizo actually need to plan beyond 2012? ;P
Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote: zylphryx wrote:
No, that should be "Goblins do it with knives and torches in hand, shrieking insanely while trying to gnaw the flesh from their victims bones and attacking random people in the street."
No, you racist, it shouldn't.
Goblins do it with tender caresses, whispered entreaties and advanced oral techniques in the street! T.M.I. Way T.M.I.! :D
TriOmegaZero wrote: Vampires don't sparkle. ... but "Mortal Chicks really dig this look!"
Kthulhu wrote: KaeYoss wrote: So your pick-up line didn't work on her, eh? Haven't worked my way through the half-dozen other female iconics that are clearly superior to her yet. You are still dead to me. :P
Matthew Morris wrote: Paul Ryan wrote: Assuming my recollection isn't faulty, it was the episode where a woman did a bodyswap with Kirk to take over command. Turnabout Intruder.
Though that was the last episode, and the series was pretty much dead by that point.
Compare that to 'The Cage' and 'The Man Trap', radically different attitudes. Gene was a bit ahead of his time on some things. Not so much on others. I also remember that it was Dr. Janice Lester who said that. Not the most rational or trustworthy of individuals.
Even so, you may be right. (I will need to re-watch this episode to be sure.)

pres man wrote: LazarX wrote: pres man wrote:
I haven't watched enough of Enterprise to know how well it sits in the original timeline. My wife (girlfriend then) and I watched the first season, but it was so brutal that we just couldn't keep watching it.
It's a bit of a hard fit. Star Trek:TOS was produced by men who's attitudes date pretty much from the '50's and it drew a lot from that generation's fairly right-wing and patriarchal world-view. The attitudes of TOS especially toward's women would not have flown well with a modern audience. So you do have to make some allowances for that. Well sure, I mean there was the episode that said that women couldn't be captains in TOS and I think we all would dismiss it. But I was talking more about things that directly reflect upon the historical events in the "later" series. I mean if Enterprise gets a transwarp drive and visits the delta quadrant and fights off a squad of Jem'Hadar somewhere I might be a bit disappointed. Which episode of the TOS or TAS was that?
I have watched them all, several times, and they never said anything of the kind. (Admittedly, the 1967 TV networks would never have allowed it in the show, but it was never actually a part of the setting.)
Matthew Morris wrote: James Jacobs wrote: Just to throw a few theories for a loop...
The latest Star Trek movie was actually my 2nd favorite of ALL of the Star Trek movies. (My first favorite being Khan, of course... but my 3rd favorite is actually the FIRST Star Trek movie.)
Here's the fun part...
By the end of the reboot movie, the only series that is canon is... Enterprise.
(Which I enjoyed like the last season or two of, except the finale.) By the way, do you realize that this isn't true?
The reboot movie happens in a damaged timeline.
Spock's traveling to Romulus with the Red Matter (/sigh "Red Ball of Doom) is predicated on the events from Star Trek: Nemesis.
So, for that to happen, all the original continuity is still valid in the "original" or "Prime" timeline.

Megan A wrote: Lord Fyre wrote: Dear Paizo,
My order (#1750757) was supposed to have
1 x Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Ultimate Combat (OGL) Hardcover
1 x GameMastery Map Pack: Shrines Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Adventure Path #48: Shadows of Gallowspire (Carrion Crown 6 of 6) (PFRPG) Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Adventure Path #49: The Brinewall Legacy (Jade Regent 1 of 6) (PFRPG) Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Pathfinder Society Field Guide (PFRPG) Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Magic (PFRPG) Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Player Companion: Goblins of Golarion (PFRPG) Print Edition
But, instead of
1 x GameMastery Map Pack: Shrines Print Edition (ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-363-7)
It had
Pathfinder Tales: Master of Devils (ISBN–13: 978-1-60125-357-6)
(The rest of the order was correct)
I would really like the Map Pack I ordered (through my subscription), but I would like to know how you want me to return the Pathfinder Tales book. :)
Thank You
Carl Flaherty
Also: strangely, the package did not contain a shipping manifest. I apologize for the mistake, I have put a replacement map pack in your side cart to be shipped with your next subscription shipment. Wonderful!
What do you want me to do with the book (that I did not pay for)?
Twigs wrote: Kthulhu wrote: I'd rather they finish out the APG iconics first. I'm starting to think those three get absolutely no love there at Paizo. First, they've been pushed back month after month. Then Valeros got the do-over treatment. Then some cavalier archtype jumped the line and got his spotlight before his book was even published. Then some crazy b&+@$ threated to shoot JJ if she didn't get her segment NOW! Now you guys want to let Miss Illusionary Floatation Device have round 2 before the awesome Inquisitor, the mystical Summoner, and the hottest Witch this side of Idina Menzel. Can't we have both? Unfortunately, no.
Appearently, Mr. Jacobs has all of his writers pretty booked up, so finding someone to compose a quality Iconic backstory is not as simple as it sounds.
So, with that constraint, we need to help try to set their priorities. (And, quite simply, the APG Iconics deserve their time in the Sun.)

Dear Paizo,
My order (#1750757) was supposed to have
1 x Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Ultimate Combat (OGL) Hardcover
1 x GameMastery Map Pack: Shrines Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Adventure Path #48: Shadows of Gallowspire (Carrion Crown 6 of 6) (PFRPG) Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Adventure Path #49: The Brinewall Legacy (Jade Regent 1 of 6) (PFRPG) Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Pathfinder Society Field Guide (PFRPG) Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Magic (PFRPG) Print Edition
1 x Pathfinder Player Companion: Goblins of Golarion (PFRPG) Print Edition
But, instead of
1 x GameMastery Map Pack: Shrines Print Edition (ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-363-7)
It had
Pathfinder Tales: Master of Devils (ISBN–13: 978-1-60125-357-6)
(The rest of the order was correct)
I would really like the Map Pack I ordered (through my subscription), but I would like to know how you want me to return the Pathfinder Tales book. :)
Thank You
Carl Flaherty
Also: strangely, the package did not contain a shipping manifest.
Kthulhu wrote: Overrated. She wasn't even the best looking of the orignal batch of iconics from the CRB, and when Feiya came on the scene, Seoni had to even give up the title of "best-ooking arcane full-caster". Plus Lini and Feiya have actual and cool animal companions/familiars, unlike Seoni...who claims to have a pathetic little lizard that nobody's ever actually seen. It's sad when the best you can do for an imaginary friend is a small reptile. You are dead to me. :P

Reckless wrote: JustABill wrote: R. Hyrum Savage wrote: I actually liked the new movie.....
;) That explains everything, I bet no one else at Paizo could continue to work with someone who thought destroying vulcan was a good idea ;-> Nah, the biggest problem with that movie was the Vulcan Science Council sending a vat of material the size of an oversized beach ball, any one drop of which was capable of creating a black hole. I mean these guys are supposed to be some of the smartest people in the universe. My other problems are with that as well.
Spock has shown a willingness to die for the greater good. ["The Good of the Many transends The Good of the One."]
Therefore to avoid this material falling into the hands of the worst person in the Universe to possess it, why did he not use it himself. Would have destroy him, his ship, and Nero's ship!
... unless of course, that much Red Matter would have destroyed the Universe. In which case, why did he have that much in the first place.
Oh right. "Red Ball of Doom"
TriOmegaZero wrote: Lord Fyre wrote: Gorbacz wrote: Lord Fyre wrote: Gorbacz wrote: Which part of Owen's post wasn't exactly clear for you guys? The part where people are trying to derail the "Argue about Star Trek" thread part. But Trek posts are offtopic in this forum... also, Spock sucks. Only in the JJ Abrams movie and slash fanfics! Edited for accuracy. You are correct.
Thank you for catching that.
Erik Mona wrote: Wait...
I have a chocolate factory?
Is it on Lisa's island?
That would be between you and Lisa Stevens. :)

Velcro Zipper wrote: From a game I'm currently playing in:
The unnamed king of an unnamed land has hired the party to reclaim an unnamed island that has reappeared after vanishing 2000 years ago. The king says the island belongs to his kingdom and he wants to visit in a year's time so our job is to wipe out all the threatening monsters and put up flags on all the resource mines before he gets there. To accomplish our task, we've been given a free boat ride to the island and that's really about it.
Sounds like this campaign ...
Velcro Zipper wrote: The king, for his part, sent over about 50 men ahead of us to set up a camp and be murdered by kobolds. Only about 20 of these men were still alive when we arrived to the island and none of them ever leave the camp or seem to do anything productive. The only guy in the camp with a name is the king's third cousin's nephew's mother's hairdresser's adopted son from a fourth marriage or something and all he does is sit in his tent while making fun of poor people. The only sort of healer the camp has access to is a level 1 adept who seems to be terrified of work, other people and magic. It sould awesome the way you describe it. Pity that the GM was not witty enough to pull this off (... it could have been really funny).
Digitalelf wrote: Foghammer wrote: The existence of spirits would imply some sort of religious belief, at the very least a system of superstitions and taboos. This would have been my first thought as well, however. Not necessarily...
Evil is evil... No. Only posting an "Is [X] Evil" thread is evil!
R. Hyrum Savage wrote: I actually liked the new movie.....
;)
You are dead to me. :P
Lissa Guillet wrote: Lisa Stevens wrote: Coltaine wrote: Lisa announces that she has added george lucas to her star wars collection Already have him.
-Lisa Still in the box, too. Make sure the shrink wrapon in it is air tight!
Gorbacz wrote: Lord Fyre wrote: Gorbacz wrote: Which part of Owen's post wasn't exactly clear for you guys? The part where people are trying to derail the "Argue about Star Trek" thread part. But Trek posts are offtopic in this forum... also, Spock sucks. Only in the JJ Abrams movie!
Gorbacz wrote: Which part of Owen's post wasn't exactly clear for you guys? The part where people are trying to derail the "Argue about Star Trek" thread part.
Ross Byers wrote: greatamericanfolkhero wrote:
The animated series is not, and never will be cannon!
:-p But it has Kzinti in it! And Caitians!
Vic Wertz wrote: Dungeon Grrrl wrote: Vic Wertz wrote: I don't think Borders' closing will have a noteworthy impact on Paizo, immediate or long-term. Also, we've actually *hired* several new employees in the past few months. So Hyrum left of his own accord? That's between Hyrum and ourselves. Sorry. So, let us hijack the remainder of this thread to argue about Star Trek! ;P
Vic Wertz wrote: We'll be making a bunch of announcements, really. You'll want to attend the following seminars:
Saturday: Future of Paizo (and if you only go to one seminar, make it this one)
Then it must be true!
Someone did meet Lisa Stevens's price, and she is buying her privite island!
James Jacobs wrote: I thought I published this list here on the website before, but here's a breakdown of how many NPCs there are listed in Inner Sea Magic with class levels.
** spoiler omitted **
One of the many reasons we nailed down classes and levels, by the way, was so going forward we can introduce "named" spells into Golarion. Things that are directly attributed to our NPCs, in the same way D&D had spells like "Otiluke's Freezing Sphere" or "Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion."
If we don't know the levels and classes of our spellcaster NPCs, we can't do that. And I'd rather share that information with the world than hide it and only show it to authors we pay to design spells for Golarion.
Hmmm ... is this a prelude to introducing the much requested EPIC level rules? :)

Kryzbyn wrote: Abraham spalding wrote: Kryzbyn wrote: Is there a solution that allows us to keep the incentive based spirit of capitalism, and also make sure that the ones in our country that need assistance get it without breaking the bank or relying on 1% of the populace to foot the bill? Flat tax. Everyone pays on everything no loopholes. Corporations are taxed as individuals since they enjoy their own rights and privileges. Everyone pays. Switch to a 'socialist' health care system (which relieves companies of involvement or expense of such systems from being directly on their books automatically making them more competitive with countries like Australia, Germany, China, Vietnam, and Japan) then nationalize the health care industry (one area the government has on a whole managed to succeed in when not forced to rely on private industry to do everything and charge them extra for doing it).
Please note that 1% of the populace doesn't foot the bill currently -- they might pay the highest percentage as a group of the tax bill, but that doesn't mean they are paying the highest percentage of their income as taxes. If its that simple, why isn't that idea more popular? I am a conservative, and your idea sounds like it would work while both sides could sleep at night.
Why isn't that ever on the table from these people? Because then tax accountants and lawyers would be out of a job. :)
James Jacobs wrote: Callum Finlayson wrote:
But when can we expect to meet Feiya/Balazar/Imrijka? And I'm stoked to be able to add one more to the list! Thanks for the awesome writeup, Crystal! Sounds like you have some work for Crystal. :D
leo1925 wrote: Lord Fyre wrote: LazarX wrote: For a character with a +0 BAB two weapon fighting is mainly an opportunity to miss twice. At first level weapon focus with one weapon is probably a better bet. Actually, for a Rogue, Weapon Finesse might be a better deal (... since most rogues have Dex scores considerable better then their Str scores). Also the fact that weapon focus requires BAB +1.
But yes human TWF rogues usually start with TWF and weapon finesse. I don't believe so. Pathfinder RPG Core Rule Book page 136 does not list any prerequists with the Weapon Finesse feat.
Has there been an errata that I don't know about?
LazarX wrote: For a character with a +0 BAB two weapon fighting is mainly an opportunity to miss twice. At first level weapon focus with one weapon is probably a better bet. Actually, for a Rogue, Weapon Finesse might be a better deal (... since most rogues have Dex scores considerable better then their Str scores).

One thing you might consider, if you feel the wizard/witch needs a "boost" is to simply place a scrolls in the lower level treasures. (Since the only real problem I have found for wizards is lack of selection at lower levels.) Sorcerers can still use those scrolls as extra spells - something that will help them at lower levels almost as much as it does the wizrad/witch (who will add the spell to their book/familiar).
If you are still worried about Arcane casters being fragile, make sure that these scrolls are good defensive (and/or movement) spells.
I have played many a wizard, and that (lack of choice at lower levels) really is the only "drawback" I have ever encountered.
This way, you will not have "changed any rules" in a way that will come back to bite you later when the characters have gained a few levels.
KaeYoss wrote: Darkholme wrote: No I'm suggesting that if it's reasonable that the wizards and sorcerers have to pay for these abilities, then divine casters should have to do the same. But the divine casters do pay for these abilities. Divine casters can also "pay" in another way. Remember, that they must keep to a certain "ethos" to keep their patron happy - and their patron can also ask them to do the occasional "chore" as well. :)
VM mercenario wrote: Here is a better question: Is responding to an alignment thread an evil act? Yes, but I don't believe it is immediately damning. Now, responding more then once would be enough to make someone evil ...
... oh darn!
James Jacobs wrote: I suppose this is where I point out that we revealed the NPC levels in a Pathfinder Campaign Setting book and not a Player Companion book, yeah? We did that on purpose so a GM who doesn't want to run with those numbers and doesn't let his players read non-player-friendly books (there are a fair number of campaign "spoilers" in Inner Sea Magic) doesn't have to worry about messing with player expectations. Ummm ... Does that actually work?
How is it possible to believe that the wall of GM/Player knowledge could (or even should) be so absolute?
Often (at least in my own 30+ year experience in gaming) the players in one GMs campaign are GMs of their own campaigns - which the original GM acting as a player in the other GM's games.
meatrace wrote: Jason Nelson wrote: I was going to say it was a chaotic act, since it spreads anarchy and dissension, but I could go with evil too. Perhaps chaotic evil then. :) I find that to be an acceptable judgment.
So a Paladin could smite anyone who started an alignment thread? Or do you have to start a certain amount of alignment threads before you yourself are irrevocably stained by your evil actions? Starting an alignment thread (including this one) is an act so heinous, that a single instance is all that is required to permanently make one CE.
another_mage wrote: My players are currently assaulting a Hall of Frost Giants and came across this:
Giant, Frost
d20pfsrd wrote: A frost giant's hair can be light blue or dirty yellow, and its eyes usually match its hair color. Frost giants dress in skins and pelts, along with any jewelry they own. Frost giant warriors also don chain shirts and metal helmets decorated with horns or feathers. An adult male stands about 15 feet tall and weighs approximately 2,800 pounds. Females are slightly shorter and lighter, but otherwise identical to males. Frost giants can live to be 250 years old. Maybe some questions are better left unasked...
I think (hope) that they mean stat wise.
The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote: Gorbacz wrote: BigNorseWolf wrote: Honestly i think it would depend on the setting. I mean HOW inherently evil are goblins in the setting? Default CE Goblins. Kill, maim, burn. Default is not the same as innate. Those with the evil subtype are innately evil. All others are a product of both genetics and environment.
Kill that goblin baby and you may kill the next Drizzt Do'Urden, only in goblin form. Actually, that is the first solid reasion FOR killing Goblin babies that I have seen in this thread.
ProfessorCirno wrote: The difference between Democrats and Republicans is that the Dems are the party of no ideas whereas the Repubs are the party of bad ideas.
Also the "best deal" for raising the debt ceiling is most certainly not Obama's, with his rediculous and utterly unneeded cuts to Medicare and the like. The best deal is a clean bill.
I disagree.
Medicare is on an unsustainable trajectory. (Social Security also needs fixing, but is not quite the house of cards some people believe it to be.)
Yes, a "Clean Bill" would have been the best deal in a perfect world. But, Obama's plan, with the "$4 cut to $1 tax increase" it included, was likely the best deal actually possible for regaining control of the debt.
cranewings wrote: When it comes to goblins and orcs, are they creatures of free will that can have any alignment like a human? That was never my impression. I thought they were made by evil gods and wizards to torment humans and elves. They don't have free will - they have to be evil. If that is the case, killing any of them is fine.
Actually Golarion, at least, is a little more complex then that.
Yes, Goblins and Orcs were created by Evil Gods to torment humans; however, they still do have free will.
So, in a way they are "born evil" (due to their culture), but could learn a better way.
Gorbacz wrote: Of course, this isn't a serious thread, and shouldn't be taken so, or Mikaze will run in and start explaining that I should take care of that Goblin and rise him to become a LG Cleric of Iomedae... ;-) This is a serious thread, and Page 45 of Burt Offerings makes this Pathfidner relevent too.
When I ran this, I did charge the party with an "Evil Act" but not enough to change their alignment (the cleric of Sarenrae needed to atone though).
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