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CanisDirus wrote:
Just had an odd thought, Drogon - didn't White Wolf have minis for their Werewolf: The Apocalypse once upon a time? A Crinos (Warform) Werewolf might work for a Kitsune fighter/barbarian, perhaps?

The Crinos form Werewolf Minis are way to big to serves as a Kitsune (even a fighter or barbarian) unless they are also under the influence of an Enlarge spell. In scale they are roughly 12' at the eyes, putting them in line with your typical Ogre.


Pigraven wrote:
J. Chris Harris wrote:
Okay, I love the stone giant and the hill giant. The fire giant, however, looks like he should be wearing roller skates. I'm sorry.
As long as he's not trying to roller skate in a buffalo herd, he should be okay.

But he could be happy if he had a mind too.


Erik Mona wrote:

I'd love to do a trollhound mini.

Then, to quote a famous starship captain, "Make it so." Use your super Publisher Powers and put it in a set.


Asgetrion wrote:
Hmmm... a hillbilly giant, really? I don't own that particular AP, so I haven't even heard of this guy, but I have to say I don't like the idea of a giant or ogre that seems to come from Louisiana or Georgia and wears overalls patched with modern t-shirts.

Funny that the very thing about the figure that appeals to me is precisely what you dislike about it. To each his own, but it really in a good likeness of Munguk (Rivers Run Red, pg. 30), if only it had his medallions and buttons (particularly, the smiley face, it just seems so appropriate to Munguk's personality).


Not a bad one in the bunch.

Conna the Wise - I like her. Slighter build than the other Stone giants to date, and looks to be a good match for the portrait. I think she looks female, albeit a very lean female. She'll be a nice addition to my mini's alongside my other RotRL minis.

Fire Giant King (or fire giant Noble given his rarity per Mr. Mona) - I like him too, He's a nice replacement for my King Snurre from the DDM line as a leader for my tribe of fire giants.

The Hill Giant Chief - This is the crown jewel of the reveals though. Finally, a hill giant that doesn't look like a stereotypical 'cave man' type giant, and further differentiating Hill Giants from Ogres. This one has the added benefit of being a "twofer," in that it will also double nicely as an Appalachian giant in the Deadlands game I run off and on.

These three more than make up for no Dwarves in this set. Dwarf-squooshers are just as useful.


catron1601 wrote:
Could you try to include a badger in a set? All the other animal companions for the Iconics are included except for poor Biter (who isn't even mentioned in Hasrk's bio and therefore gets no love). I would love to be able to add him to my collection alongside Daji, Droogami, and Donahan.

Bet they'd make him if his name started with "D" :)


Erik Mona wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
Depends. Are you an orc?
No, just a person with a real hate for those smug daisy-eaters. Question is, Where are the Dwarves, and Gnomes; the two least represented races in the Pathfinder battles line (in fact gnomes are the least represented in PPM over all).

Well, we've already previewed a gnome in this set. There was also one in Heroes & Monsters, and of course Lini is a gnome, and we did a mini of her. There's another gnome in the set after this, too.

I'm pretty sure there are no dwarves in this set. There are several in the next set, though!

Yes!! A fourth Gnome! and Dwarves in the next Set. Thank you Mr. Mona, you just made my day.


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Isil-zha wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
Where are the Dwarves, and Gnomes; the two least represented races in the Pathfinder battles line

Non-human core races are being treated fairly equally in PFB, equally bad, but at least equally. (numbers include already previewed miniature sculpts for LC)

Dwarves: 3
Elves: 5 (6 if we count Ardathanatus)
Gnomes: 3
Halflings: 3
Half-elves: 4
Half-orcs: 4

For medium sized races there are another 6 or so sculpts with helmets or masks that have no discernible race.

Elves / Half-elves are fairly interchangeable for one another and they cross the gamut of class types (save for specialized classes like monk, Samurai, and Ninja) and with a fairly even gender split(perhaps a slight favoring of females to males).

Dwarves - have a generic, an Iconic, and a villain. (All male and all of a martial nature, not one that could pass for a rogue, priest or wizard)
Halflings - An Iconic and two pirates. (2 males, 1 female but all skill monkey's - 2 that are or could be bards)
Gnome - Generic fighter, Iconic, and one yet to be released. (2 male, 1 female
Half-Orc - Tsadok, Irabeth, and Imrijka, and the Half-Orc barbarian from H & M. (2 male and 2 [badly needed] females, but once again all martial character types).

I really like the Pathfinder battles line, but it is continuing to promote the massive race / class disparity that is found in PPM. It is remarkably easy to find an acceptable elf or half-elf miniature for either gender in virtually any class, a male dwarf of most classes, a halfling skill-based character of either gender, and only a smattering of Gnomes and Half-Orcs, predominantly male and primarily of martial types.


Erik Mona wrote:
Depends. Are you an orc?

No, just a person with a real hate for those smug daisy-eaters. Question is, Where are the Dwarves, and Gnomes; the two least represented races in the Pathfinder battles line (in fact gnomes are the least represented in PPM over all).


Finally, a bard to play Thunderstruck by AC/DC on the bagpipes, cello, or whatever. Skald, the Metal Bard!! Only class I want to play more at the moment is the Warpriest.


Cat-thulhu wrote:

Awesome! Looks like I'll need to keep my eyes peeled for those.

Just did a quick size comparison. Looks like the giants sizes go (smallest to largest):

Stone giants x2(Runelords)
Ice trolls (RoW)
Hill Giant (SS)
Marsh giant (LoG)
Frost Giant
Fire Giant (SS)
Sea Troll (SS)
This troll
Troll champion.

That's some big trolls. Curiously it also means we have 5 trolls to date (6 if you include tiny) and 6 giants (7 If you include the storm). I would love to see some more giants given the vast variety of them in the game. Perhaps a female fire, hill, frost or stone (Conna the wise?). Ash or cave giant, there art is pretty amazing. A second male fire or frost giant would be cool - love the originals, but variety is always good on the tabletop. But then my sets would need to be 100's on minis in size to met all my needs (perhaps wants is a better term).

What about the the Gargantuan Rune Giant? The Cyclops (Skull and Shackles), Mokmurian (Stone Giant from Rise of the Runelords), the Gug (Shattered Star, and tallest giant in size large to date)? And no mention of the 5 Ogres (Jaagrath Kreeg is bigger than the stone giants (not taller, but certainly bulkier).


Lilith wrote:
Dustin Ashe wrote:
And is it normal for a berserker to have no memory of her rage?
Blackout angry is a thing.

Yes it is, unfortunately, just wondering why his eyes are white and not red. Blackout rage, and berserking are usually accompanied by the BURSTING of the surface capillaries on the eyes, coloring the sclera. Usually a portion of the blood also seeps into the vitreous humour (eyeball jelly) tinging everything with a reddish tint, hence "so angry I'm seeing red."


Kemiroch wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

Looks like the Reign of Winter Monsters set is doing well enough that there might be room to do similar packs in the future. I think I've mentioned before how that set was the result of a couple of compromises. The Frost Worm was originally a part of Heroes & Monsters, and the Svaathuurim is one of the only interesting Huge creatures in the Reign of Winter Adventure Path.

It's not the Huge 2-pack I would choose starting from scratch. I think that's a good thing, as other monster mixes will probably sell even better.

Erik that is the best news I've heard all day!

My vote goes to a Huge Elemental pack next.

2 Elemental Packs !! Fire and Water, Earth and Air.


Balgin wrote:

For when Quinn the investigator gets here,

everybody's gonna jump for joy.......

Glad I'm not the only one who thought it, still pretty cool. Going to reserve judgement on which new Iconics is my favorite until I've read up on all of them, but he's more of a contender for the title than Jirelle.


Curmudgeonly wrote:

I believe the only ones set in Varisia are:

Rise of the Runelords
Curse of the Crimson Throne
Second Darkness
Shattered Star

I would probably add the following two as viable sources as well:

Varisis - Birthplace of Legends and Magnimar, City of Monuments.


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Orthos wrote:
Samy wrote:
Quote:
What role could the mysterious Smoke Wizard of the Choking Tower play in this unfolding threat?

"The old world will burn in the fires of industry."

"The trees are strong, my lord. The roots go deep."
"RIP THEM ALL DOWN."
"Double shifts. No breaks."

"Know what this means don'tcha? Beaucoup overtime."


Since when is Sophie an Angel?


Cultists!! A Shemazian Demon! No AP Tie-In!! Throw in a couple of Gnolls to go with the Lamashtu cultists (or even better a Large Lamashtu Rare) and I'll be happy as all get out. So excited to see that the cultists and thugs are based on Huerta's art.


Tiny Fey the size of the Demonic Familiar? That would be cool, I could get behind that.


Any Kaiju, or other monstrous mythic beasties in Kadria? Firearms? Notable undead?


Just my Browser IE opened it no problem


Deadmanwalking wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
Nope, checked it again today, still getting the error message.

Try this one?

It's the same info, but a different file. Maybe that'll help.

That one did it too, I think it may be my browser.


Nope, checked it again today, still getting the error message.


The two I was able to read (making a total of three with the one from the other thread) seem really interesting (they also seem on par with how I have been running my Orcs for years now). However Google docs keeps telling me that the file is corrupted and will only load the first page. :(


Responses done in-line.

Frencois wrote:

First thing first : Welcome in our beautiful country Erik !

Hope you'll have a blast.
Will try to show up at Black Book Edition this week :-)

For the "other" subjects :
- Less sculpts per release is never good news. Well, we will have to deal with it.
- I fully agree that the mix that sells is :
1) A bunch of potential characters that we can play (from gnomes to half-ogres with of course humans), with variety of class/sex/looks/weapons...

Hopefully no more than half a set at a shot, otherwise it is of limited utility to many GMs

Frencois wrote:


2) A bunch of classic or nearly classic monsters (make sure you have the basic Bestiary well covered) - you never have enough gobs, kobolds, trolls or purple worms.

Hopefully no more than 1/4 of any given set, and then not every one, otherwise you end up losing regulars who have too many of these 'Classic Monsters' (Contrary to popular opinion, it is possible to have too many kobolds, orcs, trolls, Dragons, and even Goblins (though this is one I have yet to hit the too much threshold on) )

Frencois wrote:


3) A few exotic monsters (not that much)

15% to 20% per set to keep long-time collectors interested, with the cut comming out of PC types at the rarer end of the spectrum if need be.

Frencois wrote:


4) 2 or 3 of the "big boss" type

This is fine.

Frencois wrote:


5) and forget about animal farms or modern stuff - if I want some, I get them eslsewhere

Um, No. Animals are needed as familiars, animal companions, summoned allies, and wildshape forms. It is remarkably hard to find decent, appropriately-scaled animals, especially for the size small animals. As for modern pieces, if they are appropriate to the theme of the set (Russian Soldiers and Rasputin in the Reign of Winter set) then put them in. As for buying them elsewhere on moderns, where would you suggest? I've been looking for a decent source for pre-painted modern pieces (18th century on in fact) but apart from an occasional piece here and there, there just aren't that many (even paint it yourself, pieces only increase the numbers by a handful until you get into Ultra-tech wargamming in the distant future.)


After reading Lands of the Linnorm Kings, I've finally found a colossal Dragon I would want - Fafnheir. i'm sure there are other named, colossal dragons out there, but this one is different. 1st he's a Linnorm, which is a type of dragon we have yet to see in PPM, anywhere. 2nd he's a unique individual, he's not "Generic Colossal Red Dragon." Just an opinion, but I believe that any and all colossal pieces they do (if they ever do, even at a rate of one a year) should be specific, unique individuals - The 3 Kaiju from Besiary 4, The Tarrasque, Chemosit, The Oliphaunt of Jandelay, Unyielding Kothagaz, Great Cthulhu (unlikely), specific Titans (Elysian, Thanatotic, Hekatonkheires, and Fomorian). All unique individuals. I wouldn't even care if they had to be on a 7 x 7, 8 x 8, or even a 10 x 10 base, these are after all the pinnacle of Epic, Mythic Badassery.


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Even without an Iron Gods AP themed set, I still want a set with a Gargantuan Annihilator Robot as a case incentive though. ;-)


Gancanagh wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:

How do guns in Middle Ages fantasy make it time travel?

Cannon were in use in the early middle ages in warfare, as were muskets and arquebus (the handgunne). The heavy plate armor which so many people are fond of, wouldn't have existed without the introduction of firearms.

They make even more sense in Asian fantasy, since explosive-tipped arrows and cannon were used by the Chinese in the late 900's - early 1000s, with actual hand-held guns (not to be confused with modern pistols) being a regular feature in the 1200's.

And as I said, a cool monster is a cool monster, and I would almost certainly make use of Yokai demons, Oni of all stripes, Kappa, bakemono, Yonguai demons, Quilin, Kui mountain demons, etc. I just don't need bunches of Samurai and Ninja.

I probably wouldn't get so irked over Asian Fantasy if it was actually reflective of the diversity of Asian culture, but unfortunately here in the states the Genre is glutted with Japanese imagery as filtered through the lens of Anime, with a dash of Chinese unarmed fighting and hopping vampires for spice.

Apologies for the thread-jacking, bit of a sore spot as a gamer / history buff.

Muskets & cannons are a very different story than computer-loaden spaceschip or machineguns

Yes they are, though the crashed spaceship has been a staple of fantasy for around 30 years now (particularly in FRPGs). And although I want to see an Iron Gods set (With a gargantuan Annihilator Robot Case Incentive, here's hoping one is in the AP) it is not my ideal set, either. All of my arguments, aside from wanting to see an Iron Gods set have focussed on primitive firearms, not even, of the level produced in Alkenstar. Nowhere have I (or anyone besides yourself in fact) mentioned machineguns.


How do guns in Middle Ages fantasy make it time travel?

Cannon were in use in the early middle ages in warfare, as were muskets and arquebus (the handgunne). The heavy plate armor which so many people are fond of, wouldn't have existed without the introduction of firearms.

They make even more sense in Asian fantasy, since explosive-tipped arrows and cannon were used by the Chinese in the late 900's - early 1000s, with actual hand-held guns (not to be confused with modern pistols) being a regular feature in the 1200's.

And as I said, a cool monster is a cool monster, and I would almost certainly make use of Yokai demons, Oni of all stripes, Kappa, bakemono, Yonguai demons, Quilin, Kui mountain demons, etc. I just don't need bunches of Samurai and Ninja.

I probably wouldn't get so irked over Asian Fantasy if it was actually reflective of the diversity of Asian culture, but unfortunately here in the states the Genre is glutted with Japanese imagery as filtered through the lens of Anime, with a dash of Chinese unarmed fighting and hopping vampires for spice.

Apologies for the thread-jacking, bit of a sore spot as a gamer / history buff.


Gancanagh wrote:

Lol you do robots but Asian mythology goes to far? Actually Asian mythology fits in with all other mythology like a glove.

I would love a jade regent set most with Jinmenju, Rokurokubi, Jorogumo and all other awesome Asian creatures in it!

Never said it went to far, just said it wasn't really my thing. And a cool monster is a cool monster, I just don't need an overload of ninja, samurai, monks and monkey men and fox folk. My ideal I know I will never see because people seem so dead set against guns in fantasy. I mean an aisain set that included peasant harquebussers and imperial cannon would certainly catch my eye, but Jade Regent was, sadly, lacking in both.


If these changes strengthen the PF Battles line than it's all good.

I'm glad that the sets haven't rigidly tied to the APs to date (at least since Skull and Shackles) since otherwise we still wouldn't have: the Seaweed Siren, the Wolliped, at least a couple of the Demons, and that stunning Gargantuan White Dragon case incentive among others.

I too am a little disappointed that there wasn't a frost giant or two (Pigraven, you are not alone on the H & M one) and the moss troll, but with the two Ice Trolls, I'm not mad at it.

This set however, was probably not the ideal one to implement the changes to the line in since the AP is all over the map cosmically and as a result there are at least 10 pieces in it that will not have as wide an appeal (the 4 Moderns, 5 Triaxians, and the Wolliped - I like 'em but I know not everyone does.)

I know at some point we'll get more fey and (hopefully) a couple of alternate sculpt frost giants and that's cool.

I just hope that these changes strengthen the line as a whole.


I for one would love an Iron Gods PB set, and I would be happy if it came out a year or two after the AP. My group (which only meets every two weeks for about 5 hours) is currently working it's way through Rise of the Runelords [Mainly because I got the deluxe edition in the Leatherbound with the handouts and what not, and they saw it on my Lectern so now I had to use it you know.) After that we're hoping to move on to Carrion Crown or Wrath of the Righteous so at least my little corner of the Paizo-verse doesn't need the releases to sync up. I am sure I'm not alone in this either. That said, I repeat, I would love an Iron Gods PB set and would totally buy it (Granted I'd also buy a Carrion Crown Set, a Legacy of Fire Set, a Second Darkness Set, a Kingmaker Set, you get the idea.) Actually Jade Regent and Council of Thieves are probably the only APs I'd have to look at the set long and hard before buying (I don't do Asian Fantasy, I know some do, and that's cool, just not my cup of tea is all; and Council of Thieves was just kind of flat IMO).


And the key to Legends of Golarion is that it was thematically loose, not thematically non-existant. It was still tied together rather nicely with a large assortment of critters native to Golarion alone (reefclaw, charu-ka,the akhata, Segauthi, and Dehrii), organizations (the tooth gang, eagle knights, hellknights, Thrune agent, Knight of Ozem), NPCs native to the setting (The three Kings, the queen, The Sandpoint Devil) and Golarions unique twist on such creatures as genii, serpent folk, demons, and kobolds. H and M by contrast was about as generic as one could get with it's stand out figure, the frost giant, only even loosely resembling the one in the PF Bestiary 1.


Scribbling Rambler wrote:
TheOrangeOne wrote:
Please Announce who the other Iconic is going to be :)

I'm not 100% sure that there will be another iconic. Has Erik said there will be?

The iconic party used in this AP is Feiya (revealed), Imrijka (in WotR), Lini (in LoG), and Valeros (BBH).
The iconics who have not been minified are Reiko and Hayato (probably being saved for an eventual Jade Regent set), Balazar, Alahazra, and Damiel. The last 3 don't really feel like a fit for me, especially Balazar, because he would require another mini for his eidolon.
They have released a set before with only 1 iconic.

I actually hope that I'm wrong, because I love the iconic minis, but I don't think we can assume there is another until it's announced.

True, there was a set with only one iconic in it, the first set, Heroes and Monsters. It was also the smallest set released, and the only one with no real thematic structure. Also Wrath of the Rightgeous technically had 3 Iconics (Imrijka, and Alain, and Alain on Horseback). Balazar is unlikely (requiring a second slot for his Eidolon) and Alahazra strikes me as unlikely (as far as I know, Iconics have always been split 1 male and 1 female) which by process of elimination make Damiel the only logical choice.


Feros wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
TheOrangeOne wrote:
Please Announce who the other Iconic is going to be :)
Don't do it!! Make the other Iconic the last reveal, keep us in suspense till the very end ;)
Feeling particularly evil today, Leo? ;)

Today? ;)


TheOrangeOne wrote:
Please Announce who the other Iconic is going to be :)

Don't do it!! Make the other Iconic the last reveal, keep us in suspense till the very end ;)


Titans, Kaiju, Great Cthulhu.


GreatKhanArtist wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
or with 30 or 40 mixed with similar numbers of owls and falcons, you could put your players through an homage to The Birds. Of course in this homage there is an explanation, an evil Tengu Druid is manipulating them all in honor of the Demon Lord Pazuzu.
Actually, there is a module for this. It's called "Wings over Freeport".

Good to know, is it any good?


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Gancanagh wrote:

The raven you can use as the shapeshifting terror bogeyman Valravn.

Or if you have two of them as Huginn and Muninn from norse myths of course.

or with 30 or 40 mixed with similar numbers of owls and falcons, you could put your players through an homage to The Birds. Of course in this homage there is an explanation, an evil Tengu Druid is manipulating them all in honor of the Demon Lord Pazuzu.


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Yes!! The Russians are coming. Going to need at least 4 of each of the commons, and at least one of each of Rasputin and Polkovnik. Already scouring for a good Tank toy / model to proxy in for the Tsar tank. Thank you so much for not neglecting part 5 of the path. Hook us up with some fey next week and everyone will have had something to make them cheer.


Scribbling Rambler wrote:

Among Gargantuans, I'm most interested in the Shemhazian or Roc.

But I'm going to throw out another idea.

What about a 2-pack of Huges similar to the RoW encounter set.

There are far more cool Huge non-dragon monsters, IMO, and I would welcome an additional way to have them released.

For a dungeon-based set, it could be a way to get the Elementals people have been asking for. Or an Aboleth and a Froghemoth. Or a Black Pudding and a Hydra. Or a pair of Golems. Or...

Just got this one myself and I wouldn't be mad at another 2 or 3 of these a year.

Granted I wouldn't be mad at an additional Evolutions set or 2 a year either. Now here is a product where Dragons shine, three sizes, one creature, and consistent sculpts across the board. I Have both the Red and White ones and the Gargantuan White looks like a good match for the White Dragon Evolution Set. Here's hoping, if and when they get to Green and Blue they Match-up with the existing Gargantuan pieces nicely, and that WHEN a Gargantuan Red is produced the reverse is also true and that it matches the existing evolution set. That was one of the things in the DDM line and their Iconics line that irked me, there was little consistency in the styles and proportions between their sculpts (Most noticeable among the Reds and Blues, though Green, Black, and White were all over the map in scale, proportion, and style as well.)


jimibones83 wrote:
Well rejoice because the next ones been confirmed to be something other than a dragon. I like the shemhazian a lot and would not be dissapointed at all if it was what we got, I just think its unlikely because Erik said prolly no more demons for a while. Maybe he's just trying to throw us off to surprise us:) If we see all 4 gargantuans from inner sea bestiary before a red dragon ima be pretty upset though. None of my games incoreperate any of those monsters to the degree they do dragons. I wouldn't mind having the shemhazian first though

Maybe all 4 from the Inner Sea Bestiary and the Shemahazian would be a bit much, but 2 non-dragons would be a nice change-up. Out of 7 sets to date, 5 have had a Dragon as an Incentive (Huge Black, Garg. Blue, Brinebones, Garg. Green, and with RoW, Garg. White) only the Rune Giant and Deskari break the pattern. DDM Iconics line Did 3 Garg. Dragons (Black, Blue and White) and one Col.+ (Red) and only 1 non-dragon (Orcus) before its cancellation. I'm just worried by the trend of a "We need a really big monster to capstone this, I've got it a Dragon! Now which one haven't we made yet . . ." Pathfinder has such a rich diversity of monsters in all size ranges, it just seems a shame to fall back to the 'old stand-by' of a Dragon. Don't get me wrong here, I like Dragons and own all the current Case Incentives and the D&D Iconics (And at least one of each Huge from DDM, the 4 from Mage Knight 1.0, Fin Fang Foom, and around 30 more that Proxy well in the game) I am just speaking in favor of a little more diversity is all.

Another unrelated idea I'm going to toss out to Mr. Mona. How about doing a Huge critter as a 'Brick incentive'? Something you can use more than one of, so people who buy a case can get 4 without feeling upset.
Just a thought.


Infernalslayer wrote:

I agree on the Shemhazian. I find this creature to really stand out in terms of design and uniqueness, compared to many other gargantuan creatures, and to me it is an iconic paizo Demon ,like say, Orcus is from D&D.

Generally, it would be cool to see Gargantuan miniatures exclusive to paizo creatures that are unique and cannot be found elsewhere in the market in similar designs.

And this, right here is why I favor seeing the 4 Gargantuans from the Inner Sea bestiary (Even the Annhilator Robot, especially the robot since it is such an Iconic Image of the region) before we get another Dragon.


jimibones83 wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
jimibones83 wrote:

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Personally I want a gargantuan red dragon asap

ASAP may be upwards of a year from the way things are looking and based on Mr. Mona's comments. Agreed on knocking out the really cool stuff first though, So that would be Pretty much everything that isn't a Dragon, followed by the Red Dragon. Sorry but Dragon have become so common in PPM and in this game that they have lost their cool status.

so are you saying you wish they wouldn't have done this white dragon and instead would have done something else?

I disagree. I think dragons are awesome, especially when done as well as this one. I don't have a gargantuan red and I'm holding out until paizo offers one of their own.

If the Dancing Hut had been feasible, absolutely. The White Dragon was an 11th hour swap and that's fine. I personally am fond of it, but it has no where near the cool factor that the Dancing Hut had. No other Gargantuan creature is really appropriate as a sub in this case.

That said I, yes, I would prefer some of the more esoteric Gargantuan critters before we see another dragon - Bandersnatch, Neothelid, Nightcrawler, the Shemhazian, one of the 3 or 4 Gargantuans in the Inner Sea Bestiary, or even a down scaled Colossal (Only way I suspect we'll ever see a Titan, Spawn of Rovagug or Kaiju)


jimibones83 wrote:

A gargantuan roc is needed, but gargantuan are so limited. I think I'd rather knock out all the really cool stuff first. I also feel the lack of plant monsters. There needs to be more of them, but a gargantuan isn't where I'd start.

Personally I want a gargantuan red dragon asap

ASAP may be upwards of a year from the way things are looking and based on Mr. Mona's comments. Agreed on knocking out the really cool stuff first though, So that would be Pretty much everything that isn't a Dragon, followed by the Red Dragon. Sorry but Dragon have become so common in PPM and in this game that they have lost their cool status.


Glad to hear that the next Gargantuan after Reign of Winter's White Dragon is not going to be a dragon. I like dragons but I also like variety. A skilled GM can find a use for ANY mini, maybe not immediately, but they can find a use for it. I know I cannot the only GM who was designed an encounter around a mini that they found to do a unique set-piece battle. Bring on the unusual!!

That said, that is probably the coolest (pun intended) looking Gargantuan dragon mini I have see to date.


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Greta's Axe looks absolutely perfect for severing wings and beheading Dragons, I think I have found my Wife's new PC mini!!


Thehigher cause wrote:
Not one to start a riot, but I was wondering why no good dragons?

"The only Good Dragon, is a Dead Dragon!" ;-) Someone had to say it, might as well be me.

Though I confess I'd be far more interested in Imperial, Primal, or Outer Dragons, bumping the Metallic Dragons to the back of the line (I am acutely aware I am in the minority, but as a game for over 30 years I find I need far more antagonists than allies as miniatures).


Everthefool wrote:
Cleanthes wrote:
Campaign settings like Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms, much as I love them, are already well into their dotage. At this point, they're holding Wizards back. Drizz't again? Really? Kind of sad.

Old settings can still be great... IF there's new, non-world breaking, non-super-NPC focus, etc... rather than... "We have to rehash Elminster and Drizz't's argument about the corruption in the system while fending off 1000 Orcs and Tiamat after she's broken a nail".

But yeah, Drizz't.... again??? Isn't there room for some new heroes to make their way in the Realms without there being a cataclysm of the gods, a sinkhole the size of the Moonsea, or One of the Lords of Waterdeep getting a boil on their bum?

Part of the problem is that Drizz't Do'Urden has a VERY large fanbase and he sells consistently. I agree that he's getting to be old hat at this point, but he's an Iconic FR figure. He sells novels, which in turn pull in new gamers is the WotC theory. Why they consistently go back to him instead of mining their other novels for heroic figures (Alias, Elaith Craulnober, Olive Ruskettle, Cadderly Bonaduce, Dragonbait, the Harpers, etc.) Problem is most of their heroes are in only 3 to 5 novels, where as Drizzt is in 15 and counting. Much as I dislike the fact that they're mining that piece of ground again, I can understand the why of it.


Erik Mona wrote:
I have no current plans to include repainted figures in big sets.

Thank you.

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