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Eric, you've revealed the first 18(!) figures from the Iconics Series.


MaxAstro wrote:

These are really cool, but...

Is that Hellknight wielding a double lance?!

My brain is trying to come up with what such a weapon could possibly be used for... and failing...

Nope, just a standard lance with a counter-weight to the back for ease of balancing, that and that bulbous point also looks as if it would help the Hellknight use the lance as a spear if unhorsed, allowing him to set it to receive a charge. Bear in mind this is all guesswork by me.


Sorry, I want a flumph, just to get it out of the way. They have a niche.


Get better Mr. Mona.


Finally, A Badger, now my Dwarf Sorcerer can have his familiar, Lazybones.


Dave Gross wrote:

I adore the unique figures like Pazuzu. As long as they're rare, they don't feel like they're taking a slot from a miniature I'd use more often. My players love it when the miniature for a boss looks exactly like that boss.

Granted, they haven't irritated me enough to set down Pazuzu lately.

Lamashtu, Baphomet, Deskarii? Just waiting for my players to Piss me off enough to bring one of them to bear.


Lorian wrote:
They plan to kickstarter a tarrasque next, but that's the first one. It should be available to buy after the kickstarter ones ship.

The Kraken have cleared US customs and should be shipping soon. Can't wait for mine!!


Erik Mona wrote:
Cat-thulhu wrote:


Now a quick question arising from Gen Con. I saw some photos on another site of a goblin pyro promo from gencon. I thought we were looking at a goblin rider or hell wisp? What changed? Also when do promos usually hit this site for us in the far away places?

I have a sizable pile of different promo repaints, some of which we haven't ever told anyone about. They'll be a surprise, when they show up.

So far this convention season has gone like this:

ORIGINS: Hellfire Wisp (Will-o-Wisp Repaint)
PAIZO CON: Bloodbriar Goblin Raider (Goblin on Goblin Dog repaint, slightly different from Emerald Spire version)
GEN CON: Goblin Raider (repaint of Goblin Pyro)
GEN CON PFS SPECIAL: Horned Demon (red-skinned repaint of purple WotR demon)

ALL of these figures exist in huge quantities in the Paizo warehouse (I think we gave away fewer than 500 copies of the Origins figure). They will all, eventually, appear on the Paizo.com store, probably after the convention season in a few weeks.

As soon as these are up I'll be grabbing them (like Pokemon, I gotta catch them all). Anything we'll have to purchaser to get one (like the Goblins Comic and Rita's Bridesmaid) and any restrictions on number purchased (I'm specifically thinking of the goblin raider and Bloodbriar Goblin on this.)


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jimibones83 wrote:
Ahrien wrote:
jimibones83 wrote:
First off, your maths wrong. 3 is 60% of 5, meaning it's only a 40% increase, not a 66%. Also, 4 iconics for $13 is actually $3.25 apiece. Lets just use that figure so we don't have to debate whether or not a large should count as 2 mediums. $3.25 to $5 is only a 35% increase. A significant increase, but far from 66%.

Actually my maths are pretty solid. A medium figure costs $3, but for these you will have to pay $2 more. $2 in addition to $3 is a 66% increase.

But I am not here to argue about maths, I am just asking the increased price gives us better quality minis from Wizkids.

Ah yes, i see what your saying. Where are you getting medium iconics for $3 though?

Harsk $9
Seoni $11
Lirianne $10
Seltyiel $10

And so on and so on...

Now I understand that your basing your price off if these, but again, that would be $3.25 apiece, not $3, nor do they represent the entirety of the iconics.

I agree, the $3.25 price point was great. I really wish we could get them for hat price, but I suppose I'll still pay $5. More than that though and I'll probably he getting the blunt end from my fiance.

Ah but the problem is, that you can't get the Iconics (with the exception of Harsk) for that price, they are all unavailable on Paizo and they go for a hell of a lot more through another retailer, assuming you can find one that has them in stock.


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I have to ask, could we possibly get The Iconic heroes as Goblins as one of the post "we've done all 31 Iconic heroes, now what sets?"

a la The Paizo.com Exclusive Pathfinder Issue #1 cover

It would give us four more of those wonderful goblins ;-)


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Big Jay wrote:
Already there ;) Got massive metal, resin, plastic and ppm collection. I conplain for all of those. What im scared is if people do like me and cherry pick it will kill the line like it did DDM.

It wasn't just people cherry-picking pieces that killed the DDM line, it was also the rapid downward spiral in quality, and increase in price point that really hammered home the last few nails in the coffin.


Squeely Nord!! And Alhazra, nice. They more than make up for the additional daisy-eating elf in the set. Though as pointy ears go, our resident alchemist isn't as bad as most. Set keeps looking better and better.


So now we have - Cult leader Etainia, cult alchemist Thelsikar, A goblin mutant, Lamashtan Cultists, 2 different bully boys for the cult, and Lamashtu herself. Please tell me that there will be one or two of her favored children in this set. Tell me we are going to get some Gnolls.


CanisDirus wrote:
Just had an odd thought, Drogon - didn't White Wolf have minis for their Werewolf: The Apocalypse once upon a time? A Crinos (Warform) Werewolf might work for a Kitsune fighter/barbarian, perhaps?

The Crinos form Werewolf Minis are way to big to serves as a Kitsune (even a fighter or barbarian) unless they are also under the influence of an Enlarge spell. In scale they are roughly 12' at the eyes, putting them in line with your typical Ogre.


Pigraven wrote:
J. Chris Harris wrote:
Okay, I love the stone giant and the hill giant. The fire giant, however, looks like he should be wearing roller skates. I'm sorry.
As long as he's not trying to roller skate in a buffalo herd, he should be okay.

But he could be happy if he had a mind too.


Erik Mona wrote:

I'd love to do a trollhound mini.

Then, to quote a famous starship captain, "Make it so." Use your super Publisher Powers and put it in a set.


Asgetrion wrote:
Hmmm... a hillbilly giant, really? I don't own that particular AP, so I haven't even heard of this guy, but I have to say I don't like the idea of a giant or ogre that seems to come from Louisiana or Georgia and wears overalls patched with modern t-shirts.

Funny that the very thing about the figure that appeals to me is precisely what you dislike about it. To each his own, but it really in a good likeness of Munguk (Rivers Run Red, pg. 30), if only it had his medallions and buttons (particularly, the smiley face, it just seems so appropriate to Munguk's personality).


Not a bad one in the bunch.

Conna the Wise - I like her. Slighter build than the other Stone giants to date, and looks to be a good match for the portrait. I think she looks female, albeit a very lean female. She'll be a nice addition to my mini's alongside my other RotRL minis.

Fire Giant King (or fire giant Noble given his rarity per Mr. Mona) - I like him too, He's a nice replacement for my King Snurre from the DDM line as a leader for my tribe of fire giants.

The Hill Giant Chief - This is the crown jewel of the reveals though. Finally, a hill giant that doesn't look like a stereotypical 'cave man' type giant, and further differentiating Hill Giants from Ogres. This one has the added benefit of being a "twofer," in that it will also double nicely as an Appalachian giant in the Deadlands game I run off and on.

These three more than make up for no Dwarves in this set. Dwarf-squooshers are just as useful.


catron1601 wrote:
Could you try to include a badger in a set? All the other animal companions for the Iconics are included except for poor Biter (who isn't even mentioned in Hasrk's bio and therefore gets no love). I would love to be able to add him to my collection alongside Daji, Droogami, and Donahan.

Bet they'd make him if his name started with "D" :)


Erik Mona wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
Depends. Are you an orc?
No, just a person with a real hate for those smug daisy-eaters. Question is, Where are the Dwarves, and Gnomes; the two least represented races in the Pathfinder battles line (in fact gnomes are the least represented in PPM over all).

Well, we've already previewed a gnome in this set. There was also one in Heroes & Monsters, and of course Lini is a gnome, and we did a mini of her. There's another gnome in the set after this, too.

I'm pretty sure there are no dwarves in this set. There are several in the next set, though!

Yes!! A fourth Gnome! and Dwarves in the next Set. Thank you Mr. Mona, you just made my day.


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Isil-zha wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
Where are the Dwarves, and Gnomes; the two least represented races in the Pathfinder battles line

Non-human core races are being treated fairly equally in PFB, equally bad, but at least equally. (numbers include already previewed miniature sculpts for LC)

Dwarves: 3
Elves: 5 (6 if we count Ardathanatus)
Gnomes: 3
Halflings: 3
Half-elves: 4
Half-orcs: 4

For medium sized races there are another 6 or so sculpts with helmets or masks that have no discernible race.

Elves / Half-elves are fairly interchangeable for one another and they cross the gamut of class types (save for specialized classes like monk, Samurai, and Ninja) and with a fairly even gender split(perhaps a slight favoring of females to males).

Dwarves - have a generic, an Iconic, and a villain. (All male and all of a martial nature, not one that could pass for a rogue, priest or wizard)
Halflings - An Iconic and two pirates. (2 males, 1 female but all skill monkey's - 2 that are or could be bards)
Gnome - Generic fighter, Iconic, and one yet to be released. (2 male, 1 female
Half-Orc - Tsadok, Irabeth, and Imrijka, and the Half-Orc barbarian from H & M. (2 male and 2 [badly needed] females, but once again all martial character types).

I really like the Pathfinder battles line, but it is continuing to promote the massive race / class disparity that is found in PPM. It is remarkably easy to find an acceptable elf or half-elf miniature for either gender in virtually any class, a male dwarf of most classes, a halfling skill-based character of either gender, and only a smattering of Gnomes and Half-Orcs, predominantly male and primarily of martial types.


Erik Mona wrote:
Depends. Are you an orc?

No, just a person with a real hate for those smug daisy-eaters. Question is, Where are the Dwarves, and Gnomes; the two least represented races in the Pathfinder battles line (in fact gnomes are the least represented in PPM over all).


Finally, a bard to play Thunderstruck by AC/DC on the bagpipes, cello, or whatever. Skald, the Metal Bard!! Only class I want to play more at the moment is the Warpriest.


Cat-thulhu wrote:

Awesome! Looks like I'll need to keep my eyes peeled for those.

Just did a quick size comparison. Looks like the giants sizes go (smallest to largest):

Stone giants x2(Runelords)
Ice trolls (RoW)
Hill Giant (SS)
Marsh giant (LoG)
Frost Giant
Fire Giant (SS)
Sea Troll (SS)
This troll
Troll champion.

That's some big trolls. Curiously it also means we have 5 trolls to date (6 if you include tiny) and 6 giants (7 If you include the storm). I would love to see some more giants given the vast variety of them in the game. Perhaps a female fire, hill, frost or stone (Conna the wise?). Ash or cave giant, there art is pretty amazing. A second male fire or frost giant would be cool - love the originals, but variety is always good on the tabletop. But then my sets would need to be 100's on minis in size to met all my needs (perhaps wants is a better term).

What about the the Gargantuan Rune Giant? The Cyclops (Skull and Shackles), Mokmurian (Stone Giant from Rise of the Runelords), the Gug (Shattered Star, and tallest giant in size large to date)? And no mention of the 5 Ogres (Jaagrath Kreeg is bigger than the stone giants (not taller, but certainly bulkier).


Lilith wrote:
Dustin Ashe wrote:
And is it normal for a berserker to have no memory of her rage?
Blackout angry is a thing.

Yes it is, unfortunately, just wondering why his eyes are white and not red. Blackout rage, and berserking are usually accompanied by the BURSTING of the surface capillaries on the eyes, coloring the sclera. Usually a portion of the blood also seeps into the vitreous humour (eyeball jelly) tinging everything with a reddish tint, hence "so angry I'm seeing red."


Kemiroch wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

Looks like the Reign of Winter Monsters set is doing well enough that there might be room to do similar packs in the future. I think I've mentioned before how that set was the result of a couple of compromises. The Frost Worm was originally a part of Heroes & Monsters, and the Svaathuurim is one of the only interesting Huge creatures in the Reign of Winter Adventure Path.

It's not the Huge 2-pack I would choose starting from scratch. I think that's a good thing, as other monster mixes will probably sell even better.

Erik that is the best news I've heard all day!

My vote goes to a Huge Elemental pack next.

2 Elemental Packs !! Fire and Water, Earth and Air.


Balgin wrote:

For when Quinn the investigator gets here,

everybody's gonna jump for joy.......

Glad I'm not the only one who thought it, still pretty cool. Going to reserve judgement on which new Iconics is my favorite until I've read up on all of them, but he's more of a contender for the title than Jirelle.


Curmudgeonly wrote:

I believe the only ones set in Varisia are:

Rise of the Runelords
Curse of the Crimson Throne
Second Darkness
Shattered Star

I would probably add the following two as viable sources as well:

Varisis - Birthplace of Legends and Magnimar, City of Monuments.


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Orthos wrote:
Samy wrote:
Quote:
What role could the mysterious Smoke Wizard of the Choking Tower play in this unfolding threat?

"The old world will burn in the fires of industry."

"The trees are strong, my lord. The roots go deep."
"RIP THEM ALL DOWN."
"Double shifts. No breaks."

"Know what this means don'tcha? Beaucoup overtime."


Since when is Sophie an Angel?


Cultists!! A Shemazian Demon! No AP Tie-In!! Throw in a couple of Gnolls to go with the Lamashtu cultists (or even better a Large Lamashtu Rare) and I'll be happy as all get out. So excited to see that the cultists and thugs are based on Huerta's art.


Tiny Fey the size of the Demonic Familiar? That would be cool, I could get behind that.


Any Kaiju, or other monstrous mythic beasties in Kadria? Firearms? Notable undead?


Just my Browser IE opened it no problem


Deadmanwalking wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
Nope, checked it again today, still getting the error message.

Try this one?

It's the same info, but a different file. Maybe that'll help.

That one did it too, I think it may be my browser.


Nope, checked it again today, still getting the error message.


The two I was able to read (making a total of three with the one from the other thread) seem really interesting (they also seem on par with how I have been running my Orcs for years now). However Google docs keeps telling me that the file is corrupted and will only load the first page. :(


Responses done in-line.

Frencois wrote:

First thing first : Welcome in our beautiful country Erik !

Hope you'll have a blast.
Will try to show up at Black Book Edition this week :-)

For the "other" subjects :
- Less sculpts per release is never good news. Well, we will have to deal with it.
- I fully agree that the mix that sells is :
1) A bunch of potential characters that we can play (from gnomes to half-ogres with of course humans), with variety of class/sex/looks/weapons...

Hopefully no more than half a set at a shot, otherwise it is of limited utility to many GMs

Frencois wrote:


2) A bunch of classic or nearly classic monsters (make sure you have the basic Bestiary well covered) - you never have enough gobs, kobolds, trolls or purple worms.

Hopefully no more than 1/4 of any given set, and then not every one, otherwise you end up losing regulars who have too many of these 'Classic Monsters' (Contrary to popular opinion, it is possible to have too many kobolds, orcs, trolls, Dragons, and even Goblins (though this is one I have yet to hit the too much threshold on) )

Frencois wrote:


3) A few exotic monsters (not that much)

15% to 20% per set to keep long-time collectors interested, with the cut comming out of PC types at the rarer end of the spectrum if need be.

Frencois wrote:


4) 2 or 3 of the "big boss" type

This is fine.

Frencois wrote:


5) and forget about animal farms or modern stuff - if I want some, I get them eslsewhere

Um, No. Animals are needed as familiars, animal companions, summoned allies, and wildshape forms. It is remarkably hard to find decent, appropriately-scaled animals, especially for the size small animals. As for modern pieces, if they are appropriate to the theme of the set (Russian Soldiers and Rasputin in the Reign of Winter set) then put them in. As for buying them elsewhere on moderns, where would you suggest? I've been looking for a decent source for pre-painted modern pieces (18th century on in fact) but apart from an occasional piece here and there, there just aren't that many (even paint it yourself, pieces only increase the numbers by a handful until you get into Ultra-tech wargamming in the distant future.)


After reading Lands of the Linnorm Kings, I've finally found a colossal Dragon I would want - Fafnheir. i'm sure there are other named, colossal dragons out there, but this one is different. 1st he's a Linnorm, which is a type of dragon we have yet to see in PPM, anywhere. 2nd he's a unique individual, he's not "Generic Colossal Red Dragon." Just an opinion, but I believe that any and all colossal pieces they do (if they ever do, even at a rate of one a year) should be specific, unique individuals - The 3 Kaiju from Besiary 4, The Tarrasque, Chemosit, The Oliphaunt of Jandelay, Unyielding Kothagaz, Great Cthulhu (unlikely), specific Titans (Elysian, Thanatotic, Hekatonkheires, and Fomorian). All unique individuals. I wouldn't even care if they had to be on a 7 x 7, 8 x 8, or even a 10 x 10 base, these are after all the pinnacle of Epic, Mythic Badassery.


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Even without an Iron Gods AP themed set, I still want a set with a Gargantuan Annihilator Robot as a case incentive though. ;-)


Gancanagh wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:

How do guns in Middle Ages fantasy make it time travel?

Cannon were in use in the early middle ages in warfare, as were muskets and arquebus (the handgunne). The heavy plate armor which so many people are fond of, wouldn't have existed without the introduction of firearms.

They make even more sense in Asian fantasy, since explosive-tipped arrows and cannon were used by the Chinese in the late 900's - early 1000s, with actual hand-held guns (not to be confused with modern pistols) being a regular feature in the 1200's.

And as I said, a cool monster is a cool monster, and I would almost certainly make use of Yokai demons, Oni of all stripes, Kappa, bakemono, Yonguai demons, Quilin, Kui mountain demons, etc. I just don't need bunches of Samurai and Ninja.

I probably wouldn't get so irked over Asian Fantasy if it was actually reflective of the diversity of Asian culture, but unfortunately here in the states the Genre is glutted with Japanese imagery as filtered through the lens of Anime, with a dash of Chinese unarmed fighting and hopping vampires for spice.

Apologies for the thread-jacking, bit of a sore spot as a gamer / history buff.

Muskets & cannons are a very different story than computer-loaden spaceschip or machineguns

Yes they are, though the crashed spaceship has been a staple of fantasy for around 30 years now (particularly in FRPGs). And although I want to see an Iron Gods set (With a gargantuan Annihilator Robot Case Incentive, here's hoping one is in the AP) it is not my ideal set, either. All of my arguments, aside from wanting to see an Iron Gods set have focussed on primitive firearms, not even, of the level produced in Alkenstar. Nowhere have I (or anyone besides yourself in fact) mentioned machineguns.


How do guns in Middle Ages fantasy make it time travel?

Cannon were in use in the early middle ages in warfare, as were muskets and arquebus (the handgunne). The heavy plate armor which so many people are fond of, wouldn't have existed without the introduction of firearms.

They make even more sense in Asian fantasy, since explosive-tipped arrows and cannon were used by the Chinese in the late 900's - early 1000s, with actual hand-held guns (not to be confused with modern pistols) being a regular feature in the 1200's.

And as I said, a cool monster is a cool monster, and I would almost certainly make use of Yokai demons, Oni of all stripes, Kappa, bakemono, Yonguai demons, Quilin, Kui mountain demons, etc. I just don't need bunches of Samurai and Ninja.

I probably wouldn't get so irked over Asian Fantasy if it was actually reflective of the diversity of Asian culture, but unfortunately here in the states the Genre is glutted with Japanese imagery as filtered through the lens of Anime, with a dash of Chinese unarmed fighting and hopping vampires for spice.

Apologies for the thread-jacking, bit of a sore spot as a gamer / history buff.


Gancanagh wrote:

Lol you do robots but Asian mythology goes to far? Actually Asian mythology fits in with all other mythology like a glove.

I would love a jade regent set most with Jinmenju, Rokurokubi, Jorogumo and all other awesome Asian creatures in it!

Never said it went to far, just said it wasn't really my thing. And a cool monster is a cool monster, I just don't need an overload of ninja, samurai, monks and monkey men and fox folk. My ideal I know I will never see because people seem so dead set against guns in fantasy. I mean an aisain set that included peasant harquebussers and imperial cannon would certainly catch my eye, but Jade Regent was, sadly, lacking in both.


If these changes strengthen the PF Battles line than it's all good.

I'm glad that the sets haven't rigidly tied to the APs to date (at least since Skull and Shackles) since otherwise we still wouldn't have: the Seaweed Siren, the Wolliped, at least a couple of the Demons, and that stunning Gargantuan White Dragon case incentive among others.

I too am a little disappointed that there wasn't a frost giant or two (Pigraven, you are not alone on the H & M one) and the moss troll, but with the two Ice Trolls, I'm not mad at it.

This set however, was probably not the ideal one to implement the changes to the line in since the AP is all over the map cosmically and as a result there are at least 10 pieces in it that will not have as wide an appeal (the 4 Moderns, 5 Triaxians, and the Wolliped - I like 'em but I know not everyone does.)

I know at some point we'll get more fey and (hopefully) a couple of alternate sculpt frost giants and that's cool.

I just hope that these changes strengthen the line as a whole.


I for one would love an Iron Gods PB set, and I would be happy if it came out a year or two after the AP. My group (which only meets every two weeks for about 5 hours) is currently working it's way through Rise of the Runelords [Mainly because I got the deluxe edition in the Leatherbound with the handouts and what not, and they saw it on my Lectern so now I had to use it you know.) After that we're hoping to move on to Carrion Crown or Wrath of the Righteous so at least my little corner of the Paizo-verse doesn't need the releases to sync up. I am sure I'm not alone in this either. That said, I repeat, I would love an Iron Gods PB set and would totally buy it (Granted I'd also buy a Carrion Crown Set, a Legacy of Fire Set, a Second Darkness Set, a Kingmaker Set, you get the idea.) Actually Jade Regent and Council of Thieves are probably the only APs I'd have to look at the set long and hard before buying (I don't do Asian Fantasy, I know some do, and that's cool, just not my cup of tea is all; and Council of Thieves was just kind of flat IMO).


And the key to Legends of Golarion is that it was thematically loose, not thematically non-existant. It was still tied together rather nicely with a large assortment of critters native to Golarion alone (reefclaw, charu-ka,the akhata, Segauthi, and Dehrii), organizations (the tooth gang, eagle knights, hellknights, Thrune agent, Knight of Ozem), NPCs native to the setting (The three Kings, the queen, The Sandpoint Devil) and Golarions unique twist on such creatures as genii, serpent folk, demons, and kobolds. H and M by contrast was about as generic as one could get with it's stand out figure, the frost giant, only even loosely resembling the one in the PF Bestiary 1.


Scribbling Rambler wrote:
TheOrangeOne wrote:
Please Announce who the other Iconic is going to be :)

I'm not 100% sure that there will be another iconic. Has Erik said there will be?

The iconic party used in this AP is Feiya (revealed), Imrijka (in WotR), Lini (in LoG), and Valeros (BBH).
The iconics who have not been minified are Reiko and Hayato (probably being saved for an eventual Jade Regent set), Balazar, Alahazra, and Damiel. The last 3 don't really feel like a fit for me, especially Balazar, because he would require another mini for his eidolon.
They have released a set before with only 1 iconic.

I actually hope that I'm wrong, because I love the iconic minis, but I don't think we can assume there is another until it's announced.

True, there was a set with only one iconic in it, the first set, Heroes and Monsters. It was also the smallest set released, and the only one with no real thematic structure. Also Wrath of the Rightgeous technically had 3 Iconics (Imrijka, and Alain, and Alain on Horseback). Balazar is unlikely (requiring a second slot for his Eidolon) and Alahazra strikes me as unlikely (as far as I know, Iconics have always been split 1 male and 1 female) which by process of elimination make Damiel the only logical choice.


Feros wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:
TheOrangeOne wrote:
Please Announce who the other Iconic is going to be :)
Don't do it!! Make the other Iconic the last reveal, keep us in suspense till the very end ;)
Feeling particularly evil today, Leo? ;)

Today? ;)


TheOrangeOne wrote:
Please Announce who the other Iconic is going to be :)

Don't do it!! Make the other Iconic the last reveal, keep us in suspense till the very end ;)


Titans, Kaiju, Great Cthulhu.

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