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"Playing as intended"... Can I have a citation on that?

The experience and CR systems treat a Fighter 20 the same as a Wizard 20, so it seems they are expected to have similar power levels... That's not what happens.

Why can the Wizard do a million different things while the martial can only swing a pointy stick and be content with giving different descriptions to the same action and pretending that somehow makes the game more varied?


I still think the best Tenchi Muyo series is Tenchi Muyo Universe... Tenchi in Tokyo was okay too... The others are too convoluted and not very funny, IMO.

I got curious about Susei no Gargantia... But I'm not a fan of series about giant robots... So I lost interest. :/


It's not about wanting martials to do super anime stuff... It's about:

A- Martials being able to do a greater variety of things. Martials lack options. They are pretty much locked into spamming full attacks. Even the most versatile non-casters are still prisoners to the Stand-Still-or-Suck-Syndrome because the game punishes them for trying to do anything other than full attacking.

Playing a non-caster archer in PF is one of the most boring game experiences I've ever had.

B- Martials being on par with their peers. A 20th level Fighter, even without gear, should be CR 18... And yet, that same Fighter is far behind what most CR 10 creatures can do! Even with the very recent WMH and AMH (which basically half-assed ways to "patch" Fighters) I have a hard time seeing a 20th level Fighter be worth the same CR of the creatures he fights... Creatures who can fly, teleport, summon demons, turn invisible, etc.

Why do casters get to scale in power and face these supernatural threats as equals while martials are doomed to be "warrior+"?

I don't mean to say I think Fighters should be as powerful as Wizards currently are... Ideally, both ends of the spectrum would meet somewhere in the middle. Somewhere around tier 3.


I see... What's their relationnwih the congress, though? If their rulings conflict, which one takes precedence? And aren't senators elected by popular vote nowadays?


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You could play a Canadian lumberjack.


I suppose it's good to have a safety clause against pissy control-freak GMs who don't allow players to try anything not specifically called out by the rules...

Still doesn't give any real value to the trip weapon property, though. :P


TriOmegaZero wrote:
"Less useful than X" isn't exactly equal to "useless". If nothing else, it's nice to have explicit permission to throw your unconcious partner behind you as a standard action.

Well, when X isn't all that useful to start with, it comes pretty close... Besides, "less useful than Bull Rush" is not the reason I call drag and reposition useless... It's because they are useless 99% of the time.

Also, since we can grab an object and drop it on an adjacent square, why wouldn't we be able to do it with an unconscious friend?


What does the senate even do? What function does it perform that is not (or couldn't be) performed by the congress? Why is it necessary? Is it even necessary?

I lived all of my life in nations with senates... And I never understood why we have one... Well, in Brazil it's pretty much because we copied the American model... But why does the USA have one? What does it add to the equation?


20 rounds is probably enough... The real problem of relying exclusive on rage-granted natural weapons is that even if you're fighting weaklings, you'll have to unnecessarily spend rage rounds.

I suggest grabbing IUS (and possibly Dragon Style), since the enhancement bonus applies to it anyway... This way you can use your fists against easy encounters and save your Rage for combats where you actually need it.

I actually played a pretty nasty TWFing Barbarian focusing on IUS and claws... Even without the house-rules of that game, it was quite powerful.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Can't speak to drag, but I've seen reposition useful in putting enemies right back into flank or other disadvantageous positions, as well as moving allies out of harms way.

The very few times I've seen them used were by Brawlers, since they can temporarily grab the Improved/Greater maneuver feats...

And even then, I could count the number of times in half a hand. Bull Rush is much more useful since you can actually push your enemies into dangerous areas and it can be done without sacrificing action economy if you use a shield.


Ah, I forgot... They also added an errata saying that if an weapon has the trip property, it can add its enhancement bonus to Drag and Reposition maneuvers...

Now, if those maneuvers weren't completely useless, that might actually count as something...


TriOmegaZero wrote:

The Trip property allows you to avoid being tripped in response to your failed attempt. You get the choice of drawing a backup weapon or standing/fighting from prone.

Trip wrote:
You can use a trip weapon to make trip attacks. If you are tripped during your own trip attempt, you can drop the weapon to avoid being tripped.

Which only makes a difference if your trip fails by 10 or more...

So unless you're fighting quadruped giants and have no resources invested in trip, it'll likely never make any difference... If you are fighting quadruped giants and have no resources invested in trip... You shouldn't be trying to use trip, anyway.


Fig wrote:
In low level PFS games, I carry a crowbar ok most characters to open doors and (upon successfully argue that it has the trip quality) trip opponents. GMs seem to accept this as creative enough.

You don't need the Trip property to trip your target... In fact, the trip property does absolutely nothing to help your trip attempt... It just gives you the horrible, horrible "option" of dropping your weapon instead of getting an AoO when you fail to trip someone... Nevermind the fact that if you try to recover your weapon you'll get AoO'd anyway.

SKR actually pointed that out to Jason after talking to forum members, but Jason said the trip property "did enough".

*sigh*


No. In fact, I'm pretty sure every military in the history of ever would prepare for facing commonly employed tactics.


Darigaaz the Igniter wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
Convince Paizo that good Fort saves are slightly stronger than they should be... And soon we'll have an errata that says everyone has low fort and contracts all diseases ever during character creation. XD
Nah man, you gotta go a step further. You gotta repeatedly mention how Good Fort saves are one of the things martials have over most casters. THEN it'll get nerfed.

Shhh... Don't take it too far!

If you remind them martial classes have better Fort save, we'll all end up being poisoned, crippled and bleeding during character creation!


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Oh, yeah... I don't know if the Brute Vigilante is the worst archetype in the game, but it does come pretty close...


Hey, what works, works.


Smarnil le couard wrote:
Lemmy wrote:

Ah, yes... I keep forgetting the US and France still use electoral colleges...

Isn't it ironic how the two nations most associated with Freedom and Democracy and the only two democracies in the world to use such an obsolete election model?

Not really relevant, but France don't use an electoral college to elect its president. It used to, before 1958, but the president was basically a figurehead devoid of any executive power (think the british queen, but elected).

Just to put things right, you may go on.

Edit : FYI, we had ten candidates at the last presidential elections (in 2012), and in the previous one (2007) a third-party candidate managed to break through to the second round (surprise protest vote, brexit style. Oops !).

Ah, I see. Thanks for the correction. :)

Does France use direct voting nowadays? Or does it have anything similar to the electoral college system?


Convince Paizo that good Fort saves are slightly stronger than they should be... And soon we'll have an errata that says everyone has low fort and contracts all diseases ever during character creation. XD


Ashiel wrote:
137ben wrote:

So Ashiel,

I recall early in this thread you said your least favorite Paizo class was the Oracle. I think that was before Occult Adventures and Ultimate Intrigue, and maybe before Pathfinder Unchained. Is the oracle still your least favorite Paizo class, or has it been superseded by the Vigilante or one of the OA classes?
Honestly, I haven't even bothered to buy either of those books. Some friends of mine have them though, so I've taken a look at them. Vigilante easily overtakes the oracle as a class I really dislike, both mechanically and also thematically.

Care to elaborate? So many people seem to be infatuated with the class...

I don't particularly care about the class one way or another, but it did improve a lot from its playtest version (which was possibly the worst designed class I've ever seen in Pathfinder).


TheAlicornSage wrote:

Interesting. Internet says she is a he, and the he is one of the best street fighter players and possibly the best player of the character Viper.

Personally though, I never liked Street Fighter type fighting games, I prefer the Super Smash Bros style of fighting game.

I'm wondering though, what's with all the japanese men looking like women? Especially the ones that are great at something.

She was born male, but transitioned (or whatever the process is called) to female, IIRC... And that's about all I know about her.

I don't recall ever seeing her go far in major tournaments... But I suppose it's possible I simply wasn't watching the right tournaments.


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lemeres wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
Well... The game doesn't really encourage people to use improvised weapons (or do anything particularly cool or cinematic, really) in combat. It basically punishes you for doing anything other than spamming full attacks.

Well, admittedly, you would be punished in this so called 'real life' if you tried to do something like that too.

I mean....I would not want to use a random table leg while facing a guy with a greatsword. Weapons are weapons cause they are designed to be rather easy to use to maim other people. Even a 0 gold club is likely at least a chair leg that has one end shaven down so it is easier to hold onto (like a baseball bat)- that is the entire point of using craft to make it (a background issue, obviously, but it is implied to happen).

I could see an argument for a more... functional monk of the empty hand, to basically roll a Jackie Chan... but otherwise, I am fine with the idea that you should use weapons if you want to kill someone.

Ignoring the fact that "realism" isn't a particularly compelling argument... I think a fantasy game should allow you to do cool, cinematic stuff in and out of combat (without using magic).

You don't have to be as good as when you're using your favored weapon, of course, but it should be possible to do it without needing to invest a dozen feats to do so. One of Pathfinder greatest flaws is how prohibitive and punishing it is to any non-caster that tries to do anything that breaks the mold.

But I digress...


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I'm a big fan of Inquisitors with the Conversion Inquisition...

Add Wis to all social skills and get a huge bonus to Sense Motive and Intimidate! Make them Sanctified Slayers for Studied Target... That gives you yet another bonus to Bluff and Sense Motive! XD

Also... Inquisitors in general are awesome!


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Ah, yes. There's that archetype...

It's... not good.


Ashiel wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
JWong or ChrisG?
Kayo Police. :3
Pfff... She doesn't even play Marvel... Nor SF. :P
She doesn't play Street Fighter anymore? :o

I haven't seen her play anything in... Well... Ever. At most, she provides commentary... Not particularly interesting or entertaining commentary, though.

Admittedly, I never paid much attention to her in tournaments, so maybe she's just eliminated early and I don't remember it.


Well... The game doesn't really encourage people to use improvised weapons (or do anything particularly cool or cinematic, really) in combat. It basically punishes you for doing anything other than spamming full attacks.

You pretty much need that enhancement bonus to keep your martial relevant, and many (if not most) creatures become all but downright immune to non-magical attacks. DR X/magic is pretty common...

So... No. I don't use improvised weapons. As much as I'd like to break a chair on my opponents' heads, Pathfinder is not the game for doing so.


Either I see interesting mechanics I want to try and then create character concepts that fit them... Or I think of an interesting character concept and then find the mechanics that fit it best... Class names be damned!


Ashiel wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
JWong or ChrisG?
Kayo Police. :3

Pfff... She doesn't even play Marvel... Nor SF. :P


Male Human Dungeon Master 10/ Munchkin 10

Those are fighting words, boy...

I'll shoryuken the green out of your face!


JWong or ChrisG?


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Man... Re:Zero can get really freaking dark sometimes... I enjoy the series, but the latest episode was... emotionally exhausting. X(


Ah... I see. Who does Kokonotsu end up with?


Male Human Dungeon Master 10/ Munchkin 10

Hm... Why would that stop you? Does Frederick have Weapon Training?


Grey Lensman wrote:
I just hope that if the anime ever continues towards a conclusion, they don't pull a Dagashi Kashi on it and push the director's crack ship so hard that the manga wrap up seems like it's out of left field.

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What...?

No, seriously... What? I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, I just have no idea what this sentence means:

Grey Lensman wrote:
(...) they don't pull a Dagashi Kashi on it and push the director's crack ship so hard that the manga wrap up seems like it's out of left field.


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How about monsters with abilities and/or behavior completely opposite to their nature?

e.g.: A water elemental breathing fire, a mimic clearly and politely announcing itself before attacking, a vampire powered by sunlight, a troll that can't stop bleeding... XD

to make things easier, you could use the stats of creatures with the abilities/behavior you want and just describe them as something completely opposite... Possibly changing the resistances/vulnerabilities to match their physical description...


I guess we needed/wanted a word to refer to people with certain physical traits... And "Caucasian" is as good as any, I suppose.

In the end, I suppose it's convenient to have a way to quickly convey a general physical description of someone (or group of someones) without having to meticulously describe their skin tone and facial features.


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I haven't even heard anything about PFO since they announced the Kickstarter. :P


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What the hell is EQ?


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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:
I'm not much into the "mega-church" as a concept.
I'm not much into the "church" as a concept, but I like to broaden my horizons.

Huh... I thought you were an atheist.

Was I mistaken, did you convert or do you have another reason to go to church?


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thejeff wrote:
Lemmy wrote:

I'm always torn about optional voting... Having lived most of my life in a country where voting is mandatory (and still having to go to an embassy every two years to vote) I can see the good and the bad in it...

But at the end of the day, I suppose people should be allowed to not exercise one of their rights if they so choose.

I've always been fond of mandatory voting with a binding "None of the above" option. If that wins, there have to be new elections with none of those candidates.

That's how it's like in the country where I was born... I've never seen it happen, though. I haven't even heard of a case where it happened.

Admittedly, while I love my mother nation, I can't deny it has one of the worst political scenarios in any democracy... So I'm not sure it's a fair example. The US would probably fare much better, even with electoral colleges.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Hey, I do it every day with the 2nd Amendment!

That's my point. Every one does it every day with one right or another... So it makes sense that it should also be possible with voting, despite how important it is.


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OTOH, I always watch at least 3~5 episodes of a show before deciding whether or not I should drop it... But I do drop it if it doesn't deserve my attention.

Life is too short to spend it watching crap.


I'm always torn about optional voting... Having lived most of my life in a country where voting is mandatory (and still having to go to an embassy every two years to vote) I can see the good and the bad in it...

But at the end of the day, I suppose people should be allowed to not exercise one of their rights if they so choose.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
I've largely fallen out of respect for the word of the rules. Not exactly sure why. Maybe I've been brainwashed by the forums, maybe it's the constant errata.

It's probably the constant (and terribly designed) errata...

rant:
Overall, Paizo is a great company, but the way they handle errata is lazy, dishonest, disrespectful and unethical IMHO. It's what made me stop buying all Pathfinder-related material, other than dice sets and Pathfinder Tales novels.

And I whole-heartedly advise others to do the same... Paizo's policy on errata design and release makes them undeserving of my support (and other people's support as well, IMHO, but I can't decide what they do with their money).


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You should go back to visiting the General/Rules Discussions forums, Ash. There is no more ciretose to stalk you... You can even discuss buying partially charged wands now. XD


Indeed... But some things just don't translate well to live action.


Hama wrote:
Darn. I was actually asking Lemmy.

Pretty much for the reasons Grey Lensman mentioned.


That costume seems ugly as hell. oO


Nohwear wrote:
I do not understand your use of sue in this context, please clarify.

It was the word "use" + a typo. XD

I edited my post to make it clearer (Also, I meant "electoral colleges" instead of "electoral candidates"). ^^


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Kazuka wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
Couldn't everyone vote "blank" and demand new elections with new candidates? It's like the two big political parties decided to choose their worst candidates just for the hell of it. oO

No. The general public doesn't actually elect the President.

The purpose of the vote is to tell the Electoral College how we want them to vote.

Basically, all those people who believe the individual citizen's vote doesn't matter? They're right. It's the Electoral votes that matter. That's how a President can lose the popular election but still win the Presidency; they just have to win enough Electoral votes.

Ah, yes... I keep forgetting the US and France still use electoral colleges...

Isn't it ironic how the two nations most associated with Freedom and Democracy and the only two democracies in the world to use such an obsolete election model?

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