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First... catch an elf.

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Greatbear wrote:

Pathfinder now has over 20 base classes. If you include third party material, it's over a hundred. The number of PC races is about the same.

So, when you're setting up your campaign, how do you decide which ones to say no to? Is it based on your personal tastes? Thematic reasons (for example, if there is no Asian-themed society in your world, the ninja and samurai would be out)? Balance? Have you ever excluded a whole category of spell casters, such as no arcane or no divine casters?

I don't decide what to "exclude".

I decide what to INCLUDE. I include what fits. Or is appropriate. I may exclude races which are common in the world SPECIFICALLY becuase of the particulars of the campaign I'm running. If the campaign occurs in a secluded bay which has a Human only population, then Human is your one and only choice for character race.

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You'll find that most people who like Pathfinder rapidly come to the conclusion that it's in their best interests to stay the hell away from these message boards, like my 5 star spouse.

So don't ever make the mistake of taking the vitrolic population of this venue as representative of the player base as a whole.

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Buri wrote:
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That's why I said the huge following that PF has is one of the things I most like about it.

I do like that it does have a large fanbase. I'm kind of dismayed, though, that it seems the table top slice of the market can only have one large game out at a time. You either play x or good luck finding a game.

Kydeem de'Morcaine wrote:
It is unfair to expect that the GM can know every single published thing in its entirety and double check every single thing the player does.
Unfair but necessary otherwise they simply don't know. Your only other fall back is to maybe have a player call them out on it who has done the same thing. Then, to make matters tricky, their particular mix of abilities and selections may make something possible that wasn't in isolation so you really do need a familiarity with the options AND how they can combine to serve in that role well.

I'd like to correct an impression here. A PFS GM is only obligated to know the core assumptions of the game... which is CRB, and Advanced Players Guide. Players using material beyond these two should be advised that they are expected to bring the source material for whatever mechanics they are using so for 1. to prove ownership and 2. to provide the GM with the material they may need to adjudicate. I have all that material on my tablet.

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Think is... I don't see celestial as an enchantment.

Celestial is something made from a metal unique to the Planes of Good, essentially Mithral's mithral. It's not something you can apply to standard steel.

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When I say that I don't see race, by that I mean that I honestly don't care what someone's skin color is, and I treat everyone equally well.

When someone says that I see two possibilities.

1. They may be that incredibly rare ultra-empathic super-evolved Human that Roddenberry always claimed his characters to be.

2. They're in denial.

I'm going to come out and say it. I'm a racist, I'm a sexist, I'm a creation of a given cullture, religion, and region at a certain time of our mutual history. When I look at someone I do see their color, their dress, the red dot on their foreheads, the pierced lips, the pink triangle on black button they may be wearing. And I do have reactions based on that. And so do every one of you.

If you're not one of Roddenberry's Super-Evolved and are honest with yourself, you'll admit that you have those reactions as well, each and every one of us. We were raised in human societies, and every one of them is steeped in cultural and racist stereotypes taught to us by our families, our culture, and our nations. The only way to have avoided that would be to have been raised inside a box cut off from all human contact. And I don't even want to think of what kind of human that would have produced, or even if such a thing would be Human at all.

The question is then do you acknowledge those reactions, these prejudices, and keep yourselves aware of them? Or do you sit in comfortable denial of both those reactions and the actions you make in turn? It's not a crime to have prejudice any more than it's a crime to be born with gender. It's whether you grow beyond them or like most, be content to be driven by them.

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Guy St-Amant wrote:

I have a problem with the Empathy feat for Android; 13 Cha? MAD build...

Empathy is by design something that's supposed to be rare for Androids. The pre-req makes perfect sense.

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Sissyl wrote:
Writer's block is a catch all term for a few very different situations. One is that you are a lazy bum, but if so, solve it. The others are more interesting. One is that you have focused too long on this, and you need something fresh. The answer here is to get new experiences some way. Try doing something you don't usually do. Try ballet, museums, concerts, sports events, movies, read a new kind of book, whatever gets you in a new mood. You may also need some rest from it, so take a day or two off. The last real cause is that you are doing something wrong. Your mind is telling you something already done doesn't work. Try retracing your steps, see if writing something differently helps. And, of course, it may be a signal that you don't want to do what you are doing. Honesty is a very good policy with writer's block.

I'm going to back Sissyl on this one. The creative process operates very differently with different people. Some folks like Issac Asimov can produce like assembly line machines, others spend years torturing themselves on a single work.

The key to getting out of whatever your personal block is honest and complete self-examination. There different methods for doing this, including but not limited to meditation.

Only you ultimately can find a path to your destination, or honestly admit that you are at a dead end.

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As a side note, paizo gave stats to FREAKING CHUTHULU.

I dont know what really is the issue with giving stats to gods, if you dont want your gods killed they just dont die, you are the dm. You can say the sky is green if you want

Cthulhu isn't a god, though. He's just an extremely powerful alien.

The actual gods of the Mythos are Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, Shub-Niggurath, and Nyarlathotep.

My understanding of the Lovecraft mythos is that Great Old One and Outer God are pretty much interchangeable. Paizo simply gave the mythic beings of the Dark Tapestry, like Cthulhu, the former designator as an indication of somewhat lesser power and/or station in the chaotic court that resolves Azathoth at the center of all creation. The fact that you can't actually kill Cthulhu in game, though, might actually qualify him for some kind of lesser god-hood. Even Baba-Yaga can be killed, if you get things just right, but Big C? Nope, just goes back to sleep.

The important thing to remember is that Lovecraft did not create his beings as foes for superheroes like high level D20 PC's. His stories revolve around essentially common people... people that don't have the abilities of Superman, Batman, or even Sherlock Holmes. At that level you get to the point where a being is big enough to be effectively godlike even if it's nowhere near being what we would call a god in d20 terms.

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TriOmegaZero wrote:
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And the folks at Paizo decided all the things they did about every god without rolling dice or creating stats for them.

That's verisimilitude... in that you don't have every single detail tied down to stats, or sometimes even answered at all.

I don't see that invalidating a crunchy approach just because a fluffy one works just fine.

It was a reply to Thelmic's statement that the only way to be a consistent storywriter was to have stats for every character.

And did you really have to use the word 'fluff"? What you call fluff I call the meat of the game. It's the reason we put up with the mechanics.

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Do you have any advice for dinosaurs who accidentally swallow time machines and find themselves in the river Thames?


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Hello mates, just popped in from 40th century, when they're they're playing Pathfinder 400.

Sadly though, your distant descendants have declined a bit in the brains department, so the game has been simplified down to a rules set known as the Hit Me, Hit You Back mechanics.

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Ravingdork wrote:
So they are giving it a fantasy vibe rather than a sci-fi vibe? A car made to look like a banana is still a car.

it's not just a fantasy vibe. "Psychic" is flavor that's rooted in much older Victorian and Midieval traditons. It includes tropes such as Gypsy Magic, Object Reading, Mediums, and Second Sight.

Psionics however is more Jean-Grey, Scanners, Mind Control, and general sci-fi and "New Age" and comic book tropes.

The really big difference between the two is that "Psychic" doesn't have tropes for blasting the way Psionics does.

Am I the only person who thinks we have to find a new term for "New Age" considering that it died out decades ago?

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Ferguson P.D. doesn't have that many African-Americans.

Hey! Cut them some slack they've got TWO Pacific Islanders, and at least one white cop that listens to soul music! Practically a Rainbow Force.

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Just remember the more of a threat your familiar becomes, the more of a legitimate target it becomes as well.

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Gods teeth... if Pathfinder actually went down that route. I'd just leave it behind and go for something that still was organized by sanity.

The scheme you're working about works for the 3PP BECAUSE there's a complete game for them to support. If Paizo were organized like this... the entire market would simply implode.

I certainly as hell would not go through the bother of being my games piecemeal. It would be like having to make a separate order for each individual piece of my Monopoly or Talisman games.

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Wild theory on Kuvira, the metalbender who saved Tonraq.

** spoiler omitted **

I think Kuvira is going to be a very interesting character in book four, and may represent the largest switch in Avatar content yet. This season alone we have Toph having children with two separate men while remaining unmarried, and the deaths of multiple characters on screen. I think Korra is taking a much more adult turn, and we might see some less 'PG' material included in the 4th season.

It has been stated that Toph's daughters are from different fathers, but when was it mentioned that she wasn't married to either of them?
Never stated directly, but it's been assumed because the daughters kept Toph's name. Although I guess that could just be the case of Toph having a more prestigious name than that of her husband(s).
Maybe the husbands took her name?

In a family as prestigious and status conscious as the Bei Fongs, that would normally be the case.

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Anyway, since PAIZO accepted this last Psionic book as compatible with PF, did they ever used any of four basic psionic classes in their adventures or AP?
Not sure what you mean by this. To the best of my knowledge, Paizo hasn't officially accepted the Deamscarred Psionic book as official content. The fact that it has Pathfinder Compatible on the cover just means that Dreamscarred published the book under the appropriate license. There are many many Third Party books that are Pathfinder Compatible - they are still not considered official content by Paizo
They did use DSP content for their Dragon's Demand AP.
Oh! I did not know that. I'll have to look into that AP.

They did, but not in the way that some folks might be thinking of.

Spoiler:

They used a couple of monsters, and a void glass weapon specifically for the benefit of one of them.

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The word your looking for is .... bandits.

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For this sort of thing to work, you actually will have had to police wizards overall.... If you've been lax in how your magic works and your wizards are strolling the world like gods incarnate, only the truly incompetent are going to be inconvenienced by these sort of edicts.

For this to work, arcane spell casters have to have some built in weaknesses... limits in spell access, limits on how much they get to bend the rules etc... and especially limits on how much they can bypass pre-reqs in spell and item creation. That's why this sort of thing worked in the Deryni series, the psionics in that setting simply weren't so powerful that they could set aside the mundanes at will.

Needless to say, this sort of story isn't for a high level campaign.

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Stark_ wrote:

You are not alone in your concerns- a lot of people have voiced similar opinions.

1. Yes. With the Arcanist's ability to pilfer an entire bloodline, literally the only things sorcerers still have going for them are spells per day and the Razmiran Priest archetype. And spells per day pales as an advantage compared to more skill points, ability to change spells known each day, move action teleports, immediate action counterspells, and tons of other things. Easily my least favorite part of the ACG.

2. Barbarians do have some advantages, as Deadmanwalking said, but that list is getting pretty slim. The bloodrager's access to all the barbarian's tricks to some extent and spells along with some really nice bloodlines means that the bloodrager is a definite step up in most cases. However, I honestly really enjoy the bloodrager as a fun martial character with options, so I'm a little biased.

3. The rogue died a long time ago.

1. Sorcerers have consistency... they have their bloodline powers ALWAYS, not at the temporary expenditure of a limited resource point pool. They can also develop their bloodlines far beyond any arcanist can manage, and have access to a whole range of bloodlines archaists can't touch.

2. I don't know Barbarians well enough to comment.

3. Rougues seem well and healthy enough in games run outside of message board theory craft. They do take more work and thought to play effectively, but that's been true since day one.

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Rysky wrote:


Torag = Grumpy Good

So when the movie gets made, he's played by John Hurt, and his signature slogan will be "No More." ?

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Jack Assery wrote:
[Being a citizen does not make the matter any different than the orc in a 10x10ft room.

I'd find this statement absurd enough to be darkly funny, if it wasn't such a tragic reflection of too many police attitudes here in the real world.

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Tcho Tcho wrote:

I would suggest printing the paladin code of Torag from the inner sea gods. A Gm probably doesn't know all the deities codes but assuming a "vanilla" palidin code for all paladins makes even having a deity worthless roleplaying wise. I mean what would be the difference between a Sarenrea paladin and a torag paladin if both are forced to press the LG button in every occasion? As long as your character stays lawfull good overall (again overall, not pressing the LG button every occasion) and keeps his deity's code there is no need for atonement.

Ps once you printed the code you can't ask baddies to surrender anymore, really pisses of Torag.

Tldr: print paladin code of your deity, Torag paladin and Sarenrea paladin are different.

Torag's code does not apply here. Bad as she may be, the orphanage matron is not an invading horde of monsters invading the Paladin's home, which is the only place that Torag's no-mercy code applies to.

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Wiggz wrote:

I'm confused - what exactly is the purpose of an Elixir of Sex Shift?

Among other things, it's a key item in the background stories of two of Wrath of the Righteous more significant NPC's. If you view items only in the terms on how they advance character power and utility, it has no interest for you.

But remember that among it's drive for entertainment, there are other agendas that Paizo staff choose to push in subtle ways, every now and then. The elixir and it's story hooks reflect that.

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Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:

There's a large and glaring typo in the upper left corner of page 16.

That's not a representation of the Solar System. There's only one Solar System, and we're in it. It's called Solar because our sun is named Sol. Other star systems are called by their stars' names. Please give Golarion's sun a proper name so we can start calling its star system by its proper name.

Solar system is also used as a generic term as well. Star system is used to describe systems composed of multiple stars orbiting each other.

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Aranna wrote:

Because most (not all) racism has vanished... they still discriminate against the poor and probably always will. Profiling happens because there are certain things police think are good indicators of criminal behavior like dressing in a gangsta fashion or covering yourself in tattoos and driving a fancy car while looking like that is something I am sure they train officers to look for. While the man in a pricey car but wearing an expensive suit often gets a pass because he has the money to fight back legally even if he is speeding. They also don't hesitate to pull over all poor people if they are breaking the law because it's easy money since they probably can't or won't fight back legally. Kids are often unfairly targeted to for a similar reason. I lived near a school for years and the cops would set up at the end of that street and ticket all the kids as they sped past. Kids don't fight back legally either.

Racism hasn't vanished or even largely changed by a longshot. The only thing that has really changed is that it's no longer acceptable to be OVERTLY racist, or to be called a racist. You can't hang a sign in your shop that says. "Whites Only", or "Colored Seating Area In The Rear". What has happened that new social skills to deflect the charge have evolved along with the media coverage of such issues.

If Racism has "vanished". How do you explain the effectiveness of the "Willie Horton" campaign that ended Michael Dukakis' Presidential run and his career as a politician? And do you really think it's changed that much since then?

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Terek wrote:

Yes, no matter how many times I said no, he would not drop it until I had two emails from paizo. The first one to say I couldn't give him my scenario PDFs to him.

Then he demanded my other Pathfinder PDFs, he wanted me to at least print out the pages he needed for additional resources for his PFS characters. To get him off my back I sent Paizo another email to which they confirmed what I already knew.

Then he insisted I get Paizo to post that on their site because it wasn't clear. I didn't even bother asking Paizo to do that.

The guy kept calling it fair use, and I knew the entire time it was piracy.

However, at least I did learn some allowances that Paizo does give out but I haven't seen those posted on the boards so I won't say exactly what they are.

You're more tolerant than I am. My response would be when he started getting obnoxious and/or belligerent would have been. "Sod off".

The second response would have been to tell him to spend a couple of bucks and buy his own copy of the scenario.

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It doesn't work at all.

Why not?

Nothing in the text indicates it can't be used out of combat?

Wrong question:

The correct question is What in the text indicates that it CAN be used outside of combat?

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I simply don't see how you could accomplish that in one volume, save by doing a very superficial and generally lousy job.

AP's are not small affairs and I really doubt that 12 pages for each AP is going to do nearly enough to get the job done proper.

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Tels wrote:
We've also had general Zhao killed in the first season of Avatar. But I meant more a main cast character. Tenzin has been in every season of Korra, and nearly every episode. If he died, it would be the first time such an important person died in the Avatar franchise.

We never actually knew what happened to Zhao until he was found in the Mist of Lost Souls. He may have been physically brought into the Spirit World and dumped in the mists. The Moon and Ocean Spirits did after all cross into the physical world despite the closing of the portals, the Ocean Spirit may have managed a trip back just for that purpose.

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thejeff wrote:

Oh this is awesome.

Quote:
Egypt on Tuesday urged U.S. authorities to exercise restraint in dealing with racially charged demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri - echoing language Washington used to caution Egypt as it cracked down on Islamist protesters last year.

For surreal though, that's still not going to top the sight of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry trying to get Moscow to turn Ed Snowden to the U.S. with a promise not to torture.

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Flash bangs tear gas, and 200 police pointing machine guns at people to arrest 14 people remaining.

Freaking NUTS.

They're going balistic (literally) because of thrown water bottles. I've had to put up with that without reacting, with no helmet, just to move snakes out a crowded area. An APC, full on body armor, bullet proof vests and they're wetting themselves over Avion.

I suspect the Molotov cocktails and gunfire had more to do with the stun grenades and tear gas than the water bottles, but nice attempt at making the cops seem worse than they are.

And just how nice do you think things are? You must be wearing some serious blinders not to recognise this as merely the eruption of a long standing problem in this town, and countless others like it.

Fact of the matter is there should be a distinction between police operations and military. The purpose of the military is wholesale killing when it's needed. That's why you equip them in faceless body armor, they're not supposed to identify with the people they are engaging.

Police on the other hand ARE supposed to be part of the community they are protecting. That's why police uniforms include bared faces, and handguns worn holstered. Not long barrel assault weapons pointed forward wearing stormtrooper gear. The problem is that Fergueson and many other towns like this where the makeup of the force is not representative of the community it serves is that it fosters the "Us Vs. Them" mentality that's clearly seen here. The cops see the public as the enemy, and the public sees the cops as faceless soldiers looking for a reason to put them down.

This is a problem that's decades in the making, made worse by polticians like Reagan who actively worked to undo a lot of social progress. There's no quick walk out of the woods for this one. But that doesn't mean we give up on taking those first steps.

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jemstone wrote:

I'll reiterate that I think that Zaheer is smart enough to know that if he kills Tenzin, he loses all hope of ever bringing Korra over to his side.

So, almost certainly a cliffhanger.

Given that Zaheer is more than willing to condemm even his own allies to fates worse than death, this might well Tenzin's swan song. Fact is, there are other people to use as leverage over Korra even if he does kill Tenzin... such as all the other people she cares about. Killing Tenzin may well be the way he decides to show Korra that he does have the resolve to follow up his threats.

It's definitely a cliffhanger, but remember, one thing that anime is fond of... is the heroic sacrifice.... And characters DO die in this show, and Jinora is pretty much set up to be Tenzin's successor. Zaheer is definitely a worthy successor to Ozai in the Ruthless Big Bad department.

I'm not saying that Tenzin is definitely on the deceased list, just pointing out that there are valid rationalizations for killing him off at this time.

On the bright side... Zuko's reaction to Korra meeting Iroh in the Spirit World.... priceless.

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Lamontius wrote:
And thankfully nobody has ever used the reasoning "it's part of the Pathfinder rules so I'm using it".
In fairness, if you as a gm allow that to fly, it's your fault. Artifacts exist too, but you shouldn't let your players have one because they are in the rules. This goes double in homebrew settings.
Oh I completely agree. That won't stop people from crying about bad GMs not allowing official Pathfinder content though. I think it's goofy, but I know it's not a new concept.

I hope they do cry long and loud. Lets me know early on who not to invite to my tables.

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2. They are planning something that's essentially Barrier Peaks on Steroids. and Numeria is the setting for Barrier Peaks writ large. The tech introduced has self-limiting factors that ensure the planet is not going to be overrun by legions of Cybermen.
People always SAY we're not going to be overrun by Cybermen this time, but we still end up having to have the Doctor save us, don't we?

The Pure Legion has saved Golarion from alien invasion by outlawing the celebration of Christmas.

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"animal" rioters? Yeah I've seen this narrative from people like you before Andrew.

Of course "animals" is part of the police approach here. He's not pulling it out of the blue.

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A White Ferguson police offer was captured on video aggressively taunting the Black protestors who decry the shooting death of unarmed black teen Michael Brown.

“Bring it, all you f–king animals! Bring it!” the officer said during the tense volleying of threats and insults.

No racial implications there at all.

The police chief apparently has a Confederate flag displayed in his living room, but I'm sure that's just about pride in his southern heritage, again with no racial implications.

Not everyone who loves the south is a racist but it is certainly possable and not a good sign. Need a bit more proof than that theat he is indeed a racist. of course all of the race hate being thrown at the cops is just fine i see.

I really couldn't care two bits about what kind of garbage they use to decorate their offices.

I prefer the facts such as today's revelation that the police doctored the store video tape to give the appearance that Brown stole three cigars from a white owned store when the store owner has come out and said that Brown purchased them legitimately. There is simply no amount of spin that's going to justify this shooting and the way it's been handled by the local authorities. At the very minimum, both the cop responsible and the chief of police need to be handing in their badges... without pension.

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Elfguy wrote:

Looking at the recently updated PRD, I'm seeing some things that I thought Paizo has said they weren't planning to do with Pathfinder - Haven't they said they weren't interested in doing cyberpunk or Sci Fi? I'm pretty sure I've seen that in the annual contest rules or something...Our gamemasters don't even want to include the psionics rules, and now we're going to wind up with laser rifles in the standard Pathfinder rules?

orcs VS Space marines?

Orc Space marines?

Sounds a bit too much like Ralph Bakshi's "Wizards" to me...

Basically what Paizo said was the following.

1. They're not going to turn the game into a primarily sci fi venue.

2. They are planning something that's essentially Barrier Peaks on Steroids. and Numeria is the setting for Barrier Peaks writ large. The tech introduced has self-limiting factors that ensure the planet is not going to be overrun by legions of Cybermen.

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knightnday wrote:

Asking here instead of staring a new thread .. are all these posts about these iconics (and the ones from the other books) going to be collected at some point in a book or other resource?

My wife is interested in the backstories, so looking to see if there are collections or if I need to save each individual blog post for her to read.

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a collected biographical tome. Do some cut and pasting and a trip to staple, you can make your wife happy now. And that's always a smart move.

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Tels wrote:
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Tenzin was truly heroic in the last episode. If he didn't get outnumbered I think he could eventually have worn Zaheer down.
He was completely on the defensive in that fight and couldn't land a single blow until after Tenzin got ganged up on. Still, I bet if it wasn't for Combustion Lady, he could have held all three off for quite some time.

She'll always be Sparky Sparky Boom Girl to me.

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Rogar Valertis wrote:
Seranov wrote:

Some people really want to use their deity's favored weapon. I'm sure there are plenty of Desnans who would love to play with Starknives but still have bigger damage dice, for example.

The fact remains that you don't need to use the Sacred Weapon damage if you don't want to, so there's nothing stopping you from using a Greatsword and continuing to do 2d6 every swing.

More power to them of course, yet it feels really narrow in scope if that is what the designers were aiming for. As for your second point, yes you can focus on a 2 handed sword but then sacred weapon does exactly nothing for you up to level 4 when the other powers kick in. Feels like a waste of an ability. I understand it was nerfed from playtest, maybe it was nerfed too much?

The purpose of the mechanic is so that you can have a WarPriest of Pharasma who can stay in theme and not suck. Yes I know it does nothing for you who picked an optimized approach and used a great sword. Other folks need to be served as well.

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Coriat wrote:
It is entirely appropriate and thematic for Asmodeus to seem sympathetic.
Have to agree, Asmodeus is definitely into Pragmatic Evil. If running orphanages and feeding the poor helps him advance his evil agenda (presumably by winning converts), then that's what he'll do it.

Actually if you want examples on how orphanages would be run by Asmodeus, Charles Dickens will supply several. That and at least one episode of Dr. Who. Historically orphanages weren't always run people you'd term as "good". Many of them were sources of child labor.

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The Book of Erotic Whatever It's Name was did have an example of a Paladin engaging in a one night stand. She adhered to her ethos by laying out all her cards on the table. By stating plainly that she was enamored with the bard and wanted to spend a night with her but that there would be no likely continuation as she would leave tomorrow and most likely never past that way again.

So, if you treat your partners honorably, and let them know up front what the situation is, and make sure you leave them in at least as good a condition in which you found them, then you're good.

If however you're engaging in the one-night stand behavior typical of the Human Male, then you're most likely going to be in breach of your code at some point.

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DM Beckett wrote:
That seems to be the general consensus from what I can tell, (I agree).

When you have a range of highly discordant opinions, you don't have a consensus. What you are focusing on are the vocal disappointments from folks who found their DPR Champion had been brought back down in line.

The class succeeds in what it's meant to do... be a midway fighter/cleric mashup. When I played the play test version of the character, I never realized that the Sacred Weapon gave full BAB advancement, so I've already had practise playing the character this way through several PFS scenarios. Did I dominate play? No... but I pulled my weight, and that is my definition of viable.

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Captain K. wrote:

So... What's the best method of recharging the silver disks out of Numeria? Bearin mind hey only weigh 1lb each and the charge is 10 hours, the generator need not be at hand or portable.

That's the beauty of it. There really isn't any, which is why Golarion is not going to be overrun by technological armies in the next year.

Paizo took their inspiration in this also from "Journey To the Barrier Peaks". You could bring home a lot of toys from the spaceship in that module, but you'd run out of charges in short order and be left with some exotic paperweights.

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Terquem wrote:
If we drop our guard, as males, and let women express their sexuality in healthy and positive ways, how on earth will we ever be able to deal with the world shattering consequences?

If Janet Jackson is any clue, it will be with a full blown Congressional hearing.

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TheWarriorPoet519 wrote:

I actually really like that we have a LG Nature deity. Old Societies, and Nature, which Erastil represents, DO have fairly rigid rules and hierarchies.

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Someone upthread sait it a bit better. Erastil is more of a Rural Diety.

I think of it this way, while the Druids of Sylvannas may be looking to destroy your settlement as an infringement of their unspoiled forest, it's the Hunters devoted to Erastil that will stand in their way.

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Poldaran wrote:
I just want to know why UPS is holding my package in a small town in Arizona for this long.

The natives opened up the contents, and set them up as objects of worship.

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I'm waiting until next week when someone puts up a request for Paladins of Rovagug.

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